View Full Version : Chickens don't have byproducts
IRescue452
04-05-2005, 11:55 AM
I was thinking, I know that sounds dangerous. What would you consider the byproducts of a chicken? The internal organs? Its my understanding that internal organs have the most nutrition value and for some reason Americans just don't like eating them, most other countries do. Does a chicken have parts I don't know about that aren't good for consumption? Well I guess feet and skin could count for byproducts but my guess is they don't make up much of this bypruduct trade. Clue me in here.
K9soul
04-05-2005, 12:20 PM
I have looked around and found this page to best explain the bad about packaged dog foods. It also includes what is considered byproducts. The nutritionally rich heart, liver, and even gizzards of chickens are sold with whole chickens for human consumption because the giblets are used for soup stocks, gravies etc. So what's left from chickens for pet feed are the heads, beaks, bowels (with fecal matter in it), feet, bones, and even feathers.
Here is some interesting reading:
http://www.sojos.com/truthabout.cfm
Logan
04-05-2005, 12:43 PM
I didn't click on Jessica's link, but I think byproducts mean things that are completely unedible like beaks, claws and perhaps intestines. We don't do "by products" at all!
Logan
IRescue452
04-05-2005, 02:51 PM
Thanks for the info, and queasy stomach, even though its obviously a little biased toward the company. I never thought they would use feathers, but I could see a company doing that. My dog's subsist on 2/3 human food, beggars!, and some kibble on the side, I don't have a problem with it as it provides the nutrients they need and they love it, but just wait till we all start eating human kibble without knowing what is in it. When I get my own place and don't have to rely on my mom feeding my dogs while I'm in college I plan to make my own food. I sometimes bake my own kibble made from normal, human ingredients. I will never feed raw or Barf though as I think even low-grade dog food is healthier.
tatsxxx11
04-05-2005, 03:35 PM
Eeew. I read somewhere recently, the precise definition of "by products." Just what Jess described:eek: Definitely don't want my girls eating any of that!
K9soul
04-05-2005, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by IRescue452
Thanks for the info, and queasy stomach, even though its obviously a little biased toward the company.
The company just reprinted the article which was originally published in the periodical, The Animals' Agenda (as it says at the bottom). It was not written specifically for that company. I did find their food interesting. They sell a mix that you then add water and raw meats/veggies too. It gets rid of the processing and preservatives completely.
Here links to the same article
http://kellyc.net/petpantry/kibble-truth.htm
http://www.preciouspets.org/truth.htm
etc... ;)
Bigyummydog
04-05-2005, 05:32 PM
We live near a Tyson chicken by products plant.
I believe they cook the excess meat off the bone and grind the bone to make bone meal and the make feather meal with the ground feathers
Im under the impression that this meal is used for dog food.
Mostly for Purina
wolfsoul
04-05-2005, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Bigyummydog
We live near a Tyson chicken by products plant.
I believe they cook the excess meat off the bone and grind the bone to make bone meal and the make feather meal with the ground feathers
Im under the impression that this meal is used for dog food.
Mostly for Purina
That's true, Purina does get their meat and by-products from Tyson. I once talked to a lady that had lived beside a Tyson mill. She told me some horrific stories about what they sell to Purina. She said that she had to move away because the smell near the plant was so bad, because they had rotten meat and by-products that Ralston Purina would buy from them. They had those huge metal tubs, just filled with rotten meat. After that experience she never bought Purina ever again.
IRescue452
04-05-2005, 07:05 PM
I don't like to point fingers, but sounds like something Proctor and Gamble would definately do also, I never buy Iams or Eukanuba.
Oggyflute
04-06-2005, 01:25 AM
Speaking as a fisherman, I can say that chicken gut makes the best bait.:D
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