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Gidgetgirl
12-20-2004, 04:49 AM
Hi All,
Just curious what everyones take is on declawing kitties. I am not a fan of this nor will I adopt to anyone who has that intention. However, I'm not wishing to bash anyone, so please don't think that's where I'm going with this. I welcome your opinion. Have you declawed your cat? What was your experience, would you do this again,...etc... Are vets getting away from this practice or is it still a popular procedure. I look forward to hearing from everyone.
Thanks!

Laura's Babies
12-20-2004, 07:51 AM
My Chester is declawed, the rest are not. I did not know about soft paws when I got him and he was the worst I had ever seen for scratching on everything. I had just moved into a brand new house with brand new furniture and he was shredding it to pieces. Because he was so bad, my daughter said she couldn't keep him when I go to work unless he was declawed because she had a house full of new furniture too. Now I know about soft paws and use those so my girls have not been declawed.

I do not use the soft paws on Amy though because there are days when she has to depend on them to get around. They ALL have improved a lot since we built that perch with the sisal rope on it and now do most of their clawing and sctrachin on that.... even Chester.

catmandu
12-20-2004, 09:02 AM
I would never,ever declaw,as my Dear Friend Mr Scrappy,has such a hrd time,whe he got older,keeping himself,clean,and the Cats,that are declawed,at the Hotel,sadly came that way.

moosmom
12-20-2004, 03:05 PM
Rather than going through this all over again for the umpteenth time, I have posted the link to the LAST discussion on this subject.

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31808&highlight=Declawing

rosethecopycat
12-20-2004, 06:31 PM
You have to consider much more than the physical aspect of declawing. There are several behavioral changes that commonly take place too. One of the main ones is biting.

I was considering a medically necessary declaw for my foster Almalfi, who has a skin disease that attacks his paw pads and nail beds, they were horribly infected. He'll have this condition for life, so I thought, better that he not have nail beds to get infected.
Then our rescue director told me about the behavioral issues, and how he, a not very dominant, small boy, could start biting or become very defensive.

I decided not to ask that he be declawed.
For a perfectly healthy cat, or kitten, I'd just never consider it. No reason to.

Clipping and covering furniture in our house is just fine.

Just my opinion

countrygirl09
12-26-2004, 03:08 PM
My opinion is if u do declaw your cat than make sure he/she stays indoors, and if you have another cat with them make sure that they don't gang up on the declawed cat.

smokey the elder
12-27-2004, 07:53 AM
There are about a million threads about this.:p Short answer: I am against it. Contrary to popular belief, you CAN train a cat. A combination of bribery and squirt bottle discipline is the key.

Medusa
01-08-2005, 09:07 AM
I haven't had any of my cats declawed, nor do I intend to. When I rescued my first feral in 1990, I asked my vet if declawing was a good idea and if it was painful for the cat. He said "Let me ask you: if I removed all of your fingernails, even though you'll be out during the surgery, think it will hurt afterwards?" That's all I needed to hear. Plus, he told me that the cats have to be cleaned each and every time they use the litterbox or severe infections can result.

I'm embarrassed to admit that I don't know what soft paws are. Can someone please enlighten me/

Blessings,
M

countrygirl09
01-08-2005, 07:55 PM
about getting a infection you can if you end up declawing your cat you shread newspaper up or at some pet stores they have a special kind of litter...

PayItForward
01-08-2005, 08:10 PM
www.declawing.co.uk

Education is the key.

Those who know what is entailed by the operation and the potential problems do not declaw.

AvaJoy
01-19-2005, 08:48 PM
I never had any of my cats declawed and I never will.

To answer you inquiry, I bellieve "Soft Paws" are those faux kitty nails you glue over your cat's own claws so they cannot do as much damage if they scratch inappropriately. If your cat will allow it, clipping the claws will also dull the talons and reduce your property damage.

Most importantly, training is the key, and providing lots of vertical and horizontal scratching "posts" in different mediums so your cat can chose its preference. Some like sisal covered, some like carpet, some like natural wood. My advice is to experiment and offer options until you see which type kitty uses. If you happen to witness when one of the designated posts is used by kitty, reward with a treat to reinforce positive bahavior. :)

manda_moo87
01-19-2005, 09:04 PM
I don't agree with declawing.

My previous cat, Perkins, was declawed. My Mom had him declawed, I was totally against it but didn't really have much say because I was still very young. I wouldn't do it again.

smokey the elder
01-20-2005, 07:14 AM
If you can catch the cat, you can clip its toenails. My nasty brat Bosun is hard to do. I kneel down and pin her between my knees. For the right paw, I have the back of my left hand turning her head so she can't bite, and hold the paw with the left and clip with the right. The left is a little harder since I'm right handed; hold the clippers, use the back of the hand to turn the head.

I usually don't bother with the back claws, since cats rarely "rear-wheel drive" anything besides toys.

lildemon72
01-20-2005, 10:32 AM
I have had all of my cats declawed. I know what a horrible person I am. But when you have 4 of them, who refuse to go outside, even with all of the doors open, and they are tearing up the furniture, and you have tried all of the other options. I felt that there was not another option. This was a decision that did not come very easily.
It didn't seem to bother them, after they came home all of them except one, was doing their "Norm", but Satan, had an allergic reaction to the glue, and became very sick. They had to go in and dig all of the glue out and let his paws heal naturally.
The newest addition, Georgie, he doesn't use his front claws very much, when he grabs things, he just wraps his paws around, but doesn't stick his claws out. I am not sure if I will have this done to him, but if my husband has his way, it will be done sometime soon. But I was told they could do it with laser, I don't know if this would be any easier on them.

ratchet22
01-21-2005, 09:41 AM
Im glad someone started this disscussion, I was wondering also, I have 9 cats, all get along great, but I have one that attacks them all, yes in a playful manor, but she hurts them, especially the deaf one, because he never hears her coming, she visiously attacks them they scream, run and hair is everywhere, I was considering haveing her declawed, so she wouldnt hurt the others. But know Im glad to hear all this, there is no way.

I would like to know more about where to get soft paws? Is this something i can buy at my local pet smart?

Also do you know what to put on the furniture to deter them from scratching it up? My love seat already has stuffing sticking out? Would duct tape work?

thanks
carrie

PayItForward
01-24-2005, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by ratchet22
Im glad someone started this disscussion, I was wondering also, I have 9 cats, all get along great, but I have one that attacks them all, yes in a playful manor, but she hurts them, especially the deaf one, because he never hears her coming, she visiously attacks them they scream, run and hair is everywhere, I was considering haveing her declawed, so she wouldnt hurt the others. But know Im glad to hear all this, there is no way.

I would like to know more about where to get soft paws? Is this something i can buy at my local pet smart?

Also do you know what to put on the furniture to deter them from scratching it up? My love seat already has stuffing sticking out? Would duct tape work?

thanks
carrie
Is your aggressive cat a torti ?

Is there blood spilt during fights ? Blood I would be concerned about but play fighting is fair game.

ratchet22
01-24-2005, 01:02 PM
She is solid black, yes playful, but intentionally does it, sometimes there is blood, and screaming, but most of all she does it to the defensive cat whom is deaf, and never hears her coming. he will be sound asleep, and she will nail him.

Medusa
01-24-2005, 02:31 PM
I'm not one for medicating a cat unnecessarily but if one is aggressive to the point of drawing blood, I'd say a little amitryptilene is in order. One of my males, Specs, is aggressive and was attacking my other older male and was making life quite miserable for ol' Boo Bear. I have a deaf cat also and he played too rough w/her, to the point of making her hiss and that just isn't like li'l Creamsicle. She's one happy cat and just doesn't hiss or growl. And Specs would spray, too, which didn't exactly endear him to me. LOL But Jenluckenbach suggested amitryptilene and, for the most part, it works. Specs is sitting on my lap now as I'm typing this with his head tucked into the crook of my elbow. You might want to talk to your vet about it and determine the dosage. It sure helped me out and w/8 cats, I like to keep the peace! :)

Blessings,
M

ratchet22
01-24-2005, 02:53 PM
I was thinking about kenneling her, if she was in a cage by herself, maybe she would get a different ATTITUDE! Thinking like a cat, she would maybe get less powerful. I really think the soft paws will calm her down. Ill let you know. I really adore my deaf cat, he is like no other, well i guess my bottle fed babies are really different too. they are human, just ask em.:) they are all special in there own way. Since i have you here, can you tell me if there is any help with Cat HAIR! Everywhere. I sweep, mop and wipe counters 2 and 3 times a day, is there a kitty trick out there to help? I even went so far saturday, to turn on all the fans in the house and opened the door. To rid the hair from everywhere. I think I have actually dusted, swept and mopped so much that I have static electricity thing going on in my home. I didnt know if there was a trick to this problem?

ratchet22
01-25-2005, 07:22 AM
anyone have an answer? see previous entre

Kristl
01-28-2005, 10:17 AM
Hmmm...I don't really have an opinion on whether it's right or not...I guess I think it's the owners decision...Thor and Mason are declawed. My parents cats are all declawed and those cats (Bailey-persian mix and Meko-Maine Coon) havn't had any behavioral changes...neither have my cats. Bailey was always a moody cat. Her teeth are bad enough. My brother and I probably would have been completely shredded had she had claws. Bailey and Meko both go in and outside and Bailey can even climb trees...I think it's a personal decision. That is just my opinion. I'm not for or against.

dragonchilde
02-01-2005, 08:36 PM
Some cats just use their claws more. My Wobbles is an absolute monster with hers, and there's not a thing we can do about it. We can't trim them without a vet's help, and quite frankly, paying a vet to trim them isn't worth it. So we just let her go. And endure the scratches. ;)

Medusa
02-01-2005, 08:46 PM
Wobbles does sound like my Puddy. I don't think I've ever clipped her hind paws. By the time I'm finished w/the front ones, I'm worn out and probably bleeding. Sometimes I'm sneaky and wait til she's asleep and I can clip 2 or 3 before she realizes what's happening. Mean, I know, but we gotta do what we gotta do. She has really crooked claws and paws and they grow under and are needle sharp. So I have to at least clip the front ones.

Blessings,
M