Obediance training for 1 of 4?

[Scooby4]

My father gave me a Border Collie that was a runaway they found wandering around. It is full grown and healthy. My parents kept her for about a year. They had to keep her outside pinned up and could only walk her at the park. It got too much for them and they did not like keeping her outside. Now I have her and keep her Inside/outside. I have a fenced in backyard.
Here is my quandry. She has adjusted pretty well. All my dogs like her and play. However, she is the ONLY dog that will need obediance training. She has issues the other dogs don't have.
How do I do obediance training just for the one dog withOUT bringing the other 3? Is this a good idea? She is also fully mature and not a puppy. What kind of training should I do with her?
My other 3 dogs are all adoptees that are well trained and behaved. One dog is just here until he joins the rainbow bridge. He's a new adoptee as well. Benji is the largest of the dogs but NOT the Alpha. Scooby is that despite his stroke.
If anyone believes this is a good idea to go ahead with the training sans the 3 dogs let me know. I've never owned a Border Collie and she is smarter than me!!!

[sammy101]

Take her to Obediance school!!Many people leave there other dogs at home when they take one dog.I dont think its a bad idea.If she needs it,she needs it.
You shouldnt have a problem just taking her to class then leaving the others at home.I never had a problem when i had two dogs.

[Bonny]

Usually obedience training is to train the owner of the dog to train the dog. You should only take the dog that is to be trained to obedience class. It is a lot of work but the pay off is wonderful. You will have a dog that will listen & obey. ;) The herding dogs are high energy dogs. :p We had a rescue dog that came to us as a 5 year old & boy was she hipper & wild. It took a lot of work teaching her obedience but she was a changed dog. :)

[bckrazy]

Definately take her to Obedience! My Border Collie has been through ongoing Obedience classes since we got him, when he was 8 months old and not trained at all, he wasn't even leash trained. We have been through four levels of Obedience, up to the competitive level, and he has loved it. It's really a good bonding experience for you and your dog, and it'll teach you how to handle her and your other dogs. Just make sure you look at all the available classes, and only go to POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT based training. That is the only way to go with BC's, as they are highly sensitive and do not do well with harsh corrections. I once made the mistake of going to a Petco training class when I first got Gonzo, where they practiced kneeing, lots of collar grabbing, and really harsh corrections, and he would completely shut down. Make sure you are patient and supportive with her, and give her TONS of treats and praise through the whole process. Find the best trainer possible, and ask for references from your vet or other dog owners... Just make sure you find training that is gentle and positive, and isn't a total ripoff (as some places definately are). Good luck!

Oh, and, good job for taking the girl into your home! All dogs, BC's especially, crave to be inside with their people and do not do well being tied up outside their entire life. Being tied up like that might have caused some of the behavior problems you see in her... it can do a lot of damage to a dog :(

[bckrazy]

http://www.dogsdeservebetter.com/think.html

this is a good site about problems that often occur when dogs spend 1 year chained up. I don't want to offend you or your parents.. you are awesome to have taken her :)

[Scooby4]

Benji/Pooch was kept in a small fenced area. She wasn't chained. It just wasn't big enough for her. They had moved from a farm area prior and the new house is in the city. She was forced to be leashed by the Park my father took her too. Of course, my father isn't much into leash laws in parks! He'd get busted a few times.:rolleyes:
My dad called her Pooch and my step mother called her Benji. She answers to both. So that makes it harder for training at times.:rolleyes: I've kept the name Benji and then someone pointed out Benji is a boy name.
She is doing much better lately but having a terrible issue with her putting her nose on me. I try to type at the computer or lay on the couch and there is her nose!!!:mad: I push it out of way gently, pat her on the head when moved, and tell her no. It takes a few tries to get the point. She has to compete with 3 other dogs so I understand.
She also has an issue of not completely getting on the bed with me. She won't get all the way up but has a majority of her body on the bed. That takes up more room and frustrates me. I try to pick up her back legs to get her fully up but she struggles with me. My parents said she did the same behavior with them. She won't get all the way up on anything. I allow my dogs on my bed ONLY they are NOT allowed on ANY furniture. They also know to get off the bed when I request. They avoid sleeping with me for the most part. I let them on the bed to play.
My father also got her in the habit of sleeping in his van. Now everytime I open my car doors she climbs in and refuses to leave! She taught another dog to do the same thing now. I am at a loss at trying to correct these behaviors. I was hoping obediance training may help. Something to get rid of her energy and nosiness! :rolleyes:
Thanks for the help. I am going to need it. Never owned a border collie before. It is alot more than I expected!

[Bonny]

Our rescue dog, Susie, would not listen to anything either. Our dogs are trained to lay by the hall door on rugs. Susie would not listen & who ever owned her before must of left her run around in their house. I ended up tieing her to the door when she would not listen. She could lay on the rug & was not to run around the house. She finally learned after many times being tied up her reward for not running around & laying on the rug was to be untied. When I tied her up I also gave the command STAY & put my hand in front of her nose when I said STAY. I had to be very consistant with her. She was a very very smart dog & had lots of bad habits. But she also was a sweet heart too.:)