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ILOVECINDER
12-02-2001, 10:39 PM
Did you know that people save more dogs than cats? :mad:I think people should start saving more cats!!! :D

Former User
12-03-2001, 02:51 AM
Hey, some people like dogs, some cats, they save what they want and like, can't help them! Everyones taste is different you know!

purrley
12-03-2001, 08:31 AM
Every life is precious and every effort should be made to save them - big or small.

4 feline house
12-03-2001, 10:13 AM
The problem is in the difference between the nature of the dog and the cat.

Actually, there are more cats in homes than dogs (US only statistic, I don't know about the rest of the world). BUT....

Dogs generally go into heat only once or twice a year. Cats generally never go out of heat until spayed or bred.

Although dogs are certainly notorious for getting out, a cat in heat, or a randy tom looking for a cat in heat, can escape confinement much more easily.

Few dogs are left to roam, most are confined in some manner or another. Only strictly indooor cats are confined. (And the type person who would not spay or neuter is not generally the type that would keep the cat indoors only).

Stray dogs are less self-sufficient than cats, and are either captured and euthanized or killed pretty quickly. Cats can roam for years.

So, we are doing our best to keep all those puppers and kitties (and buns etc...) out of the shelters but cats are disadvantaged from the start. The FIRST step is to spay and neuter. Adoption is the clean-up when the first step was not done.

Thanks, L4C, for bringing this to our attention. Even on a petlover's board, it always bears repeating, becuase we never know who may be lurking!

lizbud
12-27-2001, 10:43 PM
I'm trying to help those (cats & dogs)
that happen to wander into the neighborhood
and are obviously in need of food,shelter
or a kind word from a human being..
A white long haired cat showed up about
1 1/2 weeks ago and I have been feeding him
and trying to get him to trust me enough to
get close so I can check out his general
health.He has several 'marks' across his
nose and generaly acts pretty beat up &
tired of life. I'm pretty sure it is the
same 'pure white ,beautifully clean' cat
that was brought into the neighborhood
about 2 yrs ago by new neighbors.He was once
accepted by my outdoor cat (Momma Kitty)
who sleeps in my garage, but now she does
not allow him into the garage (food & shelter). I've been feeding him on my front porch both dry & wet food and he gobbles it
up. I've put out a 'chair pillow' on a
porch chair where he can sleep in the
afternoon sun and stay somewhat warm but
it's getting very cold at night, and I must
make a decision soon to trap & bring to the
vet for a check up & try to work him into
the garage for shelter or keep feeding him
were he is and hope for the best.
My Momma kitty accepted him once, but he
does not act as confident as he once was
& also needs to be cleaned up.

lizbud
01-12-2002, 09:04 PM
Well guess what? The long haired white cat
started to answer me with a 'meow' whenever
I talked to him & has stopped running away
from me outside. If fact, he's following
me everywhere I go when I'm outside & he's
just talking up a storm. He's even wanting
to be petted. Definately not a feral!
I can now see clearly that he has several
deep scratches on his chest & one fresh
scratch on his face.He's going to the vets
Monday morning to be neutered & have doc
look at & treat his wounds.
He treats Momma kitty with great deference
& she's relenting a little bit.He's now
out of the weather & sleeps inside the garage overnight. He's picked out a box
that's full of old clothes & spends most of his time just eating or sleeping.
I think I've just got another cat...

BigCharles
01-13-2002, 09:15 AM
Congrats lizbud,

I once saw an all white cat that looked like a twin for Lamoni. I fell for him. Too cute.

What color are your new baby's eyes? Hope everything goes okay at the vets.

lizbud
01-13-2002, 01:29 PM
Thanks Big Charles,
His eyes seem to change color according to
the light.At first they looked a pale blue color, but this morning they look hazel
colored. The scratches on his chest did not
look quite as red, but I'm sure he needs to
be fully looked over by the vet.I've been
watching Momma Kitty's reactions when I'm around them both, and while she will not
'touch noses' with him, she seems much more
at ease. I would never try to keep another
kitty if it stressed Momma Kitty to much,
no matter how much I loved it.Momma has been
with me now for about six years & I promised
her a home & love for the rest of her life.

sirocco
01-13-2002, 05:23 PM
Hello Lizbud!I am glad to hear about those good signs. I know it isnīt over yet (Momma Kitty needs to get used to a new pal!!) but Iīm sure youīll manage to make them get on well with each other, with a little patience, of course! And I hope youīll receive good news from the vet... Will you keep us updated??
I know how sad is to find cats on the streets that you know they once belonged to a household. Theyīre not prepared for the life in the streets and must suffer a lot, discovering they canīt trust humans anymore and fighting other cats :( Abandoning pets is a most horrible thing to do, I canīt understand how can someone do that, but, anyway, they keep on doing it, so letīs not waste time trying to understand and go for saving all we can instead! Thank you for being so caring!

Nita

Randi
01-15-2002, 12:16 PM
Building a cat house in your backyard

In our backyard, we have had several stray cats, one neutered male is still living there. When we moved in 8 years ago, he was sleeping in an old pram someone had left.

A few of us decided to build houses for them. We got some Polystyrene boxes from the grocery which had contained vegetables and we taped two together. We cut a hole in one end (along the lenght of the box, to avoid the wind going through), then we covered the box in thick plastic - also taped on with good strong tape and put some old blankets in. The cats immediately moved in and has been there ever since. As you can imagine, it can get pretty cold in Denmark in the winter, but now, they're not freezing their paws and ears off. It will probably be a good idea to choose some plastic which blend in with the background color.

We also take turns feeding them - about the same time every evening, after the birds have gone to rest, otherwise they will steal the food.

This may be an idea for other catlovers - itīs certainly a cheap solution and quite easy to do- and best of all THE CATS LOVE IT!

Good luck!

:D

lizbud
01-15-2002, 02:56 PM
Well, I dropped off the white kitty at the Vets yesterday
after work & he had his surgery this morning. The Vet called
me at work after he had been put under to tell me that there
were some complications. Kitty had to have two claws removed,
one from each hind paw. One nail had been broken off at the base & the other was torn away from the paw and had become
infected. The vet is giving him antibiotics & will be keeping him
overnight to recoup a little till I can bring him home tomorrow.
I could clearly see the scratches on the kitty, but had no idea
about his paws. I just called the Vets, and they said he was
resting comfortably. Guess I better start thinking about a name
for the little guy...

lizbud
01-16-2002, 07:29 PM
I went to pick up my kitty today, but the vet wanted
me to leave him at the clinic overnight again. The vet
was very concerned about the site of the "declawing"
on two toes on his hind feet becoming infected. They
have given Sugar(my name for him), two baths & a flea
treatment He looks Beautiful!! He could be a show cat
he's so handsome. Beautiful ,totally white ,long hair !!
I have a different vet for the cats than I do for my dog.
The Kitty's vet works with local groups who take in both
stray & feral cats, if you pay for their neuter/spay and
FIV/ FLV testing. I get the feeling that this vet has
taken a special interest in this cat b/c he loves white
cats, everyone at the clinic kept saying what a
"Sweetie-pie" he is.... I really want Sugar to be an
indoor only cat so he never has to go through this
again, but I cannot keep him as an indoor cat.(4 is my limit)
for the size house I have. He could stay in my garage with
Momma Kitty & I would feed and care for him , but I fear
for his safty outdoors. If the vet can find him a 'indoor'
home, I would let him go for his own good.

lizbud
01-22-2002, 09:08 PM
The white kitty, Sugar, came back home with me
on Friday (1-18-02). The vet sent antibiotics home
with him(Amoxicillin) liquid. Sugar already looks a lot
better than he used to. He is very affectionate with
me but was totally freaked out by everything inside
the house.The tv,radio, furnace going on & off. and
of course, my other cats. They are living in separate
areas of the house for now and I really don't think
they all will be happy campers ever. I want to keep him
indoors at least until he finishes his RX. He's shown some
progress getting accustomed to the house noises,
including the DOG.(Hates the DOG). Anyway in refreshing
my memory about how to go about cat introductions. I
found this site called,

http://methuen-mspca.org/petcare/htm/catintro.htm

It is an excellent bit of advice for anyone interested
in thinking about bring in a new addition to a cat household.

AmberLee
01-22-2002, 10:04 PM
{{{Lizbud, Sugar, rest of the fur babies}}},

Thanks for the progress report. Poor guy sounds a little traumatized... Hope things work out for you. Hang in there. I'm sure your goal of keeping him until the medicine takes effect will do him a world of good. (Much luck surviving that long. ;) ) You're a good pet mommy! :D

Randi
01-23-2002, 06:47 AM
Congratulations Lizbud! I think you have handled the situation very well. :) I can tell you really care! So, now is the time for patience. It's very difficult to keep an outdoor cat inside, but you will be able to, after a while.

When we first got Fister indoors, he wanted to go out all the time (his mum was still in the backyard) and we let him out, but he kept coming back and stayed for longer and longer at a time and now he hardly ever goes out. It has taken us 4 years and a lot of patience, but we love him!

Had a look a the site - it's sounds like they know what they're talking about You can do it!!

Good luck! Please let us know how you're getting on.

lizbud
01-23-2002, 07:25 PM
AmberLee,

Thanks for the encouragement !! Yeh I do like to
set (short) attainable goals & take one thing at a
time with kitties. They are Soooo Sensitive !!! . LOL.

Randi,

Thanks for the help & encouragement. I'm going to just
take this one day at a time... I saw a few more good
signs with my four kitties & the "new guy" tonight....

lizbud
01-28-2002, 08:28 PM
A little update on the white cat Sugar;

1. He has completely recovered from his neutering &
fixing his claws on the hind paws.
2. This cat is by far the most aggressive male cat I've
ever come across. He is very sweet to people, but seems
to have a need to dominate every other cat, male or female.
3. I have relocated him to the garage with" Momma" &
" Baby" Kitties.(both long ago spayed cats) , but "baby"
is scared to death of him & "Momma" wants nothing to
do with him either. He follows them around & acts like
he is "not neutered" if you know what I mean.
4. Sugar had "the operation" on the 15th, does it take
a long time for a mature male to lose "interest" ?
My other four males were all nuetered at a much younger
age, and they are much more friendly & playful
together. If he does not calm down pretty soon, I will
have to consider other arrangements for him.
I'm at my wits end with this aggression thing. Help !!!

lizbud
01-29-2002, 04:05 PM
Thanks Spencer & Tutone,

Last night when I went to feed & "put to bed" my outdoor
kitties,i.e. close up the garage for the night, Sugar was so "in your face" with Momma cat that I was afraid a fight might
break out. It was a mild night weather wise, so I let Momma and Baby kitty sleep outside and locked Sugar up in the garage
overnight... I guess he still needs a few days to sort out his
place in the group with my two other outdoor cats. I thought
since they were female, he would get along O.K. with them.
We'll see... This morning as I was driving away from the
garage, I glanced back at Sugar and he had the saddest look
on his face, like, "Where are you going?".

lizbud
01-29-2002, 09:35 PM
Good luck, maybe...

When I came home from work tonight, all three kitties
came running to meet me when they heard the garage door
opener. ( I leave a side door open a little every day for them
to get in out of the weather or have a drink of water or
kibble ). Good news is that the three cats all gathered at
in the same area to welcome me home. Sugar is letting the
"Momma Kitty" enter & greet me first before he comes up
to me. Good sign I think. "Baby Kitty " ,whom I love dearly,
is better, but not totally convinced that Sugar is going to be
O.K. to live with... I think Sugar was just scared & unsure at
first, but I think and hope he will blend in well...

AmberLee
01-29-2002, 09:41 PM
Good news, Liz. I agree that Sugar allowing Mommy Kitty to approach first sounds like a good sign.

Baby steps of progress. Fingers and paws crossed.

Randi
01-30-2002, 06:15 AM
I'm so glad to hear about the latest development. In a few weeks they will probably have sorted out their rank and will hopefully be playing together. You have been patient and done a good job with them!

Good luck in the future! :)

Xena
01-30-2002, 08:36 AM
Great Job with your new addition Sugar. Sounds like they are going to do well together. Sometimes it seems to take them a little longer to adapt to all the changes but the progress looks great. Thank you for saving another sweety from the streets.

Xena :)

lizbud
01-30-2002, 09:35 PM
Well, there's nothing like a cold rainy day to bring
peace within a group who share quarters...

I have windows on three sides of my garage
(each equipped with inside window ledges) for the
kitties. When I came home tonight, I could see Sugar
settled into the "lookout post" window. All cats seemed
more at ease with each other, even Baby Kitty..
Maybe a coincidence, but all the other stray toms(4-5)
have suddenly left the area since Sugar has been
ensconced into Momma's house. (garage).
Please keep fingers & paws crossed for this to all
work out for all my furkids. Thanks, Liz.

lizbud
02-07-2002, 10:10 PM
A small update on Sugar.

He is now ok around Momma & Baby kitty.(They have
sorted things out (not best friends), but they are
showing mutual respect & an easyness around each
other. That's good. However, I came home yesterday
to find Sugar's right ear flap all chewed up & bloody.
It broke my heart. He acted fine with me & the other
two cats, and I think I know who he defended his
food from. ( Big grey/white stray tom ) He must have
been coming into the garage to feed before but never
bothered Momma or Baby kitty. Now Sugar feels he has
to stand guard over the food source.
It's back to the vets tomorrow to check out his ear,
but think I made a mistake in leaving the food down
all day & the door open. There are just to many really
hungry kitties around here. Think maybe I'm making
a problem for Sugar by leaving food out.
Momma & Baby are well fed cats & will be alright
without food until I come home from work, as they
are used to getting their can food only in the evening
before I close up the garage for them.
Any one with advise on a better way to handle this
please tell me. Thanks. Liz.

lizbud
02-15-2002, 10:21 PM
Sugar, the "hard Luck Furkid" has healed from his
ear wounds.(no sutures required). He was fine when
'put to bed' in the closed garage last night, but this
morning was limping badly and holding up his left
front paw.There is no blood or discharge that I can
see but he will not use the paw or put any pressure
on it. My garage has rafters where Momma & Baby
kitty love to cavort, and I'm thinking maybe Sugar
fell from there.??
He went to the vet's tonight (as Febuary is National
Spay/Neuter month and the vet has been very busy)
Poor kid. seems like he just gets over one thing &
then something else happens to him...

TheAntiPam
02-16-2002, 02:45 PM
Thanks for sharing the news about Sugar as he adjusts to his new life. I hope he gets past this period of bumps and bruises soon and settles into the good life you are providing!

My cat Murf was not neutered until he was at least 2 1/2 years old. He definitely has the ear scars and notches to prove he was "all male" when he roamed the streets. But now he's a mellow loving cat, having learned to accept both new humans and new kitties. Your patience will pay off and in a few months you'll look back and see the changes clearly.

Best wishes for you and all your fur kids!

lizbud
02-16-2002, 03:07 PM
Thanks for the kind words & good thoughts for
Sugar. It means a lot .
I called the vet this morning & he told me Sugar
has developed an abcess on his paw.The vet seemed
most concerned that Sugar had a very high fever also.
The vet said Sugar's temp last night was 105; but he
had not yet had his temp checked yet when I called.
Sugar is on antibiotics & will be staying at the vet's
office over the weekend.
Even with all this happening to him, Sugar was still
acting as sweet as ever even thought he must have
been in a lot of pain..I do Love the little guy !!!

lizbud
02-20-2002, 08:40 PM
I picked up Sugar from the vet's office on Monday
after work. He's looking and acting good.I've never
had a cat that seemed so comfortable riding in a car
before. When we got home & inside the garage I took
him out of the car but left him in the carrier for a few
minutes so Momma & Baby kitty could come over to
sniff him out. He just sat there like an angel and didn't
complain a bit. Put out everyone's food & let him out
of the carrier. He was more interested in re-orienting
himself to the garage than eating, but all went well.
Sugar seems remarkably calmer than I've ever seen
him act before. One day at a time I guess....

AmberLee
02-20-2002, 08:46 PM
Hey Liz,

So far, so good! :D Hope Sugar is feeling well again soon. It sounds like the three in the garage are getting along fairly well now, good sign! Thanks for keeping us posted.

Regards!

lizbud
02-20-2002, 09:31 PM
Thanks Amber,

Yea, Three (outside) kitties in the garage, four kitties
(inside only) and a GSD/Husky who on first meeting my
the 4 indoors thought they were new squeaky toys. LOL.

Life's never dull with these guys, but I wouldn't trade
them for the world. Liz.

lizbud
03-01-2002, 09:32 PM
Sugar continues to do well and seems to have blended
in to living with Momma & Baby kitty. On a warmer day
last week they all three rolled in the grass together
and each sought their own individual attention from me,
as I worked in the yard, but there was only the usual
competition usually displayed in a group. My fingers are
really crossed that Sugar will be O.K. outside as a neutered
male, because I've had two other males that didn't survive
living outdoors after being neutered. They usually were
attacked by other neighborhood un-neutered males or
just got sick and wandered off to die or something...
With the cold weather lately, all three spend a lot of
their time inside the garage & the neighborhood stray
toms are not around as much...

lizbud
04-09-2002, 10:32 PM
Just a short update on Sugar. He is doing very well as
a member of Momma's Gang. LOL. He now "knows the
drill"; when I leave, when I come back home, when he
gets fed, etc...He doen't stray too far from the back yard
and Baby Kitty has started to follow him around.She
finally has someone to pester other than Momma Kitty.
Baby loves to hide in the grass & "attack"(playfully) either
Momma or Sugar as they passby...I'm so glad they've all
gotten to know each other. They all were once alone & on
their own in this big old world & now they have each other
and me and a place to call home. That makes me happy.

AmberLee
04-09-2002, 11:54 PM
{{{Lizbud}}}.

Your update really warms my heart. Thanks for letting us know that Sugar is part of "Momma's pride" so to speak.

lynnestankard
04-10-2002, 12:15 PM
Lizbud all I can do is echo Lut - I've just read the whole story and am thrilled at the outcome:) :)
Wonderful work you did - you must feel so proud. Well done.
Just a little note - white cats out in the sun should have sun block applied to their little ears.

Love Lynne

lizbud
04-10-2002, 01:00 PM
Hello and Thanks Guys,

There are some pictures of Momma & Baby Kitty
at http://community.webshots.com/user/lizbud4


(In Newer Pictures)
None of Sugar taken yet, but soon, as the weather
is starting to warm up now.I'll be taking more
of all my furkids.

lizbud
05-02-2002, 10:46 PM
Hello,

Sugar seems to have completely blended in with Momma
and Baby Kitty. They all "hang together' around the property.
I know Momma very well and if she were upset with Sugar
being here, she would have displayed some reaction by now.
Not only do all kitties give nose kisses to each other, Sugar
even licks the side of Momma's & Baby's faces after getting
back together after a brief separation. It's so neat.
Sugar eats like a horse, he's going to be a Huge kitty.
The weather's been to cold & rainy to get any good pics,
but this weekend promises to be better for finishing my
roll of film of the furkids. Liz.

AmberLee
05-02-2002, 11:36 PM
Yippee!!! Great news!!! I look forward to seeing shots of them together.

lizbud
05-15-2002, 08:45 PM
Hello,

Just got the pictures & CD back from the drugstore
tonight. There are some good shots of Sugar . He's
doing really well. I'll upload them to our webshots album
tomorrow on my lunch hour at work. He's a cutie !!!

lizbud
05-16-2002, 01:04 PM
Hi guys,

I got most of the pictures uploaded now.

http://community.webshots.com/user/lizbud4

The Album is called Furkids 2002. Check out Sugar... Liz.

AmberLee
05-16-2002, 03:18 PM
LizBud,

Your fur-family is adorable! Sugar and Momma Kitty seem very content together. In your 'Baby Kitty doesn't like photos' shot at first I didn't see the cat at all. All are lovely. Sugar seems very happy and healthy these days. Must be a relief.

Why do cat love to rub on cement? Cassy likes it and Livvy loves it. Looks like Sugar loves it, too. Has anyone any suggestions on this?

lizbud
05-16-2002, 07:17 PM
AmberLee,

That picture of Baby Kitty looks awful on my home pc.
Can't even see her. There are better pics of Momma
and Baby in the Newer Pictures album. Down near the
bottom of the pics. # 17, I think. There's also a picture
of yours truly. Thanks for the nice comments on my little
kitty pals.

Pam
05-18-2002, 09:13 PM
Lizbud, somehow I missed this entire topic! I happened to learn about it from the post about Buddy's Knee. Sugar is precious and you are his guardian angel. :) I have read this entire thread tonight and I loved following along with your story about how he came into your life and now about his adjustment, which seems to be going so well! I just visited your albums and they are all terrific and Sugar is as handsome as I had pictured him. His story reminds me a little of Logan's Butter, in that he just sort of wandered into your life and you opened up your home and your heart to him and he looks a lot like like Staci's Kylie. Gee, so many Pet Talk kitties to keep track of, but they all feel like family to me. :)

lizbud
06-27-2002, 08:02 PM
Tonight when I came home, Momma, Baby & Sugar
all came running to the garage for supper. Sugar is
such a Sweetie, all he needs is ear scritches, petting
and FOOD, and he's a happy camper.:D He then went
up to his window seat to survey the back yard.I turned
around to make sure they were all inside before I closed
the door and turned back around and Sugar was gone.
Vanished in one minute.:confused: I looked around for him
but he had just disappeared. Momma kitty came over and
started to sniff the cardboard box under the windowsill.
The glue had come loose on the the topside of the box,
and when Sugar jumped down on it, he fell through the
box and was trapped inside. I lifted the side, and out he
came. He was just a little ruffled, but non the worse for it.

AmberLee
07-01-2002, 05:27 PM
Whew!!! I think my heart paused when I hit the middle of your last post!!! What a relief to continue on and finish it!

Edwina's Secretary
07-01-2002, 05:47 PM
Lizbud - Somehow I had never seen this thread until today. I was reading through and looking at your photos.

My grandparents lived in Indianapolis. Every summer we would go to Indy for two weeks -- always during the State Fair. To this day I could draw you a map of the fairgrounds. In your photos -- your house, your yard, your fence, your side walk, your front door -- look just like their home did! Such a flood of memories I have had this afternoon! They died when I was in my early teens so it has been a long, long time.

Thanks for bringing it back!

Lizbud...I just saw the posting about your mother's passing. My condolences. Perhaps yesterday she was tapping me on the shoulder ans saying..."remember those who have gone before..."
Sara

lizbud
11-17-2002, 09:51 PM
This is just a short update on my "outdoor" kitties.
Sugar, the last cat to be added to Momma Kitty's group
is doing just fine. He gained tons of weight & has blended
in with Momma & Baby kitty. No problems at all. However
for the last several days I've been noticing a new cat hanging
around with the gang.He/she stays just on the fringes & won't
get to close. I saw Momma check him/her out & she seems
to not be upset with this cat. It's a beautiful long haired orange
kitten, maybe 4-5 months old. I would love to catch him. I
am supposing it's a him & that's why Momma is not upset
having him around. He is very afraid of humans, so it'll take
some doing to trap him, but I'm going to try. His fur still looks
clean and he's so pretty, just like my indoor cat Redbud.
Wish me luck. Liz.:)

lynnestankard
11-18-2002, 05:53 AM
Oh Liz - when I read 'Save More Cats' it was a blast from the past!!
How sweet another furbaby wanting to be included in your family!!! Please keep us uppie-dated on the situation won't you?
{{{{Hugs}}}} coming across the miles xxx

Lynne

Cataholic
11-18-2002, 01:08 PM
Liz,

Tons of luck and love to you for doing so much kindness!!!

sasvermont
11-18-2002, 01:28 PM
Lizbud, this is my first time being exposed to this thread. I can't figure out why I have not seen it before now.

You have a heart of gold. I am just so glad there are not any more stray cats in my neighborhood. I would have them all living at my house, for sure.

You will go to heaven for sure, being so kind to these orphans.

((((((((((((((((((Lizbud)))))))))))))))

toughCookie
11-18-2002, 02:55 PM
well I did my part of saving cats... I would like to see all the pets have nice homes! maybe someday they will ..

Cataholic
11-18-2002, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by toughCookie
well I did my part of saving cats... I would like to see all the pets have nice homes! maybe someday they will ..

Hmmm...did you? I see "Eight Extraordinary Cats" and "Nine Nice Cats"...:D :eek: :D

Lillycat
11-18-2002, 05:25 PM
regardless of which kind of animal is rescued it is a wonderful thing to do.....blessings on all who do so.

toughCookie
11-19-2002, 02:33 AM
Hmmm...did you? I see "Eight Extraordinary Cats" and "Nine Nice Cats"...

cataholic, very funny!! you must be seeing this in your dreams, if I should dream it , it would be a nightmare! there will be absolutley no more cats in this house! no way, never. never, never! you can mark my words! I lost my mind for a while when I brought the last 2 home, and almost didn't keep them. I am not going to repeat the mistake. not that adopting cats is a mistake, but I had my hands full with 5. but I love them all and things are settling down . :) :)

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
11-19-2002, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by toughCookie


cataholic, very funny!! you must be seeing this in your dreams, if I should dream it , it would be a nightmare! there will be absolutley no more cats in this house! no way, never. never, never! you can mark my words! I lost my mind for a while when I brought the last 2 home, and almost didn't keep them. I am not going to repeat the mistake. not that adopting cats is a mistake, but I had my hands full with 5. but I love them all and things are settling down . :) :)

Suuuurrreeee, TC, we believe you. ;) :p

I'll be sure and save this post and send it to you to remind you after the next two join the household. ;) :D

toughCookie
11-19-2002, 07:53 PM
Suuuurrreeee, TC, we believe you. I'll be sure and save this post and send it to you to remind you after the next two join the household.


well I hope you have a good place to keep this post, where you won't lose it...because you are going to have to hang on to it for one VERY LONG time!! I am in no way, ever going to get any more cats, not as long as I have these cats. so, there! haha! :D :D

actually, I will only have 6 cats one of these days, soon. I am moving and giving callie to my mother. she is already HER cat anyway. she loves her and wants her. we are moving, and not going to share a house anymore. we will live close, but not together. after my father died, I moved in with her... now it is time for my own place, and I will miss her but I am looking forward to my own house! :) :)

lizbud
11-19-2002, 09:13 PM
Hey Guys,

Sure hope I haven't jinxed everything by posting about
the new kitty, but I have not seen him for the last 2 or 3
days.:( I know where he came from down the alley about
4 or 5 houses away from me , so I keep an eye out for him/
her.

TC,
Congrats on your upcoming move to your own place.
Hope everything goes smooth for you & the kitties.
:)

lizbud
11-29-2002, 08:09 PM
Just a short update on the orange kitty stranger.

I saw him (I'm sure it's a male b/c he was stalking baby
kitty the very next day after I posted last) . He was across
the street wandering through the bushes. Checking out new
territory I think. There's no way I'll be able to lure him with
Sugar living here. Although Sugar's neutered ,he has chased
away all the neighborhood toms & has probably discouraged
this guy from hanging around also. :( There used to be a lot
of strays in my neighborhood, which accounts for my having
seven cats:D ) I hardly see any nowadays. I'll be sure to
keep an eye out for him.It justs hurts your heart to know
that there are so many homeless cats out there & winter
is coming fast. Maybe he'll come back this way again, I did
find Sugar last winter hanging around my porch.Let's hope.

lizbud
12-03-2002, 09:23 PM
I have not seen the orange boy at all lately.:( He looked
quite fit when last I saw him so maybe he's found a place
to hang out for the winter. About the same time I first saw
the pretty orange boy, I also noticed an all black kitty(also
a young one), but she ran away even faster than he did.
However, a few days ago, I noticed this cat going in through
a hole of an unused garage down the way. I saw it again
tonight eating food from the dumpster across the way from
the garage. Moki noticed this cat right away.He LOVES kitties
and knows all the ones he sees everyday.He had never seen
this before & was very interested. I'm thinking this one is a
female b/c she has picked a "food source" spot and seems
to being staying around longer than the orange boy. I have
not left food out for her yet b/c my outdoor cats might be
drawn to her hideout. Think I'll make a trip down the alley &
leave her a can of food after my guys have been closed up
in the garage for the night. Good food once a day is probably
better than whatever she's getting from that dumpster.

lizbud
01-30-2003, 09:43 PM
The long haired orange kitty showed up again. I have been
feeding him for 1 1/2 weeks now on my front porch. I have
the trap ready to catch him as he is very afraid of people.My
vet that works with stay/ferals was on vacation all of last
week so all I could do was offer food every evening & try to
let him see me & talk to him a liitle. I even managed to take
a few pics of him thru the front window a few days ago. I can't
believe how clean his fur still looks. His face looks to pretty to
be a male cat, but I know he is. I'm trying to gage when to set
to trap and get him into the vet to be neutered & checked out.
I would love to keep this sweet looking kitty. If my four indoor
kitties could accept him, I'd keep him for sure.I'm dropping off
film tomorrow, so maybe I can post of pic of this young one.:)

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
01-31-2003, 11:34 AM
Good luck, Lizbud. Orange, long haired kitties are one of my favorites (of course all kitties are my favorites :rolleyes:) so it would be really neat if you could trap him and keep him. Good luck and let us know how it goes. :)

lizbud
02-01-2003, 10:34 PM
I think I might have luck trapping him as he now knows where
his food comes from & waits for me under the pine tree near
my front porch or on the bannister of the porch side wall.
That he is coming closer to the porch itself makes me think he's
starting to trust a little. He's very afraid of people, so I don't
know how he would adapt to being inside with me, my 4 other
boy kitties(or they to him), and my 7 mo old puppy. I'll take it
a day at a time and see. I do want to get him into the vet this
next week to be neutered & checked out.

Randi
02-02-2003, 08:05 AM
Liz, which kind of cat trap are you going to use? When Fister was trapped in the yard (by a professional) he went totally beserk! That may have been the time when he broke his front tooth. The man did it in the daytime and we kept an eye on the trap. The less time in there the better! When he got in, a big blanket was put over. That should calm him down. Perhaps it's also a good idea to get a 2 mg. Valium (Diazepam) from the vet and put it in his food in the cage, to help him calm down quicker. Ask your vet about it!

Good luck, Liz! I hope he is healthy and he can get along with your other cats! Looking forward to see some pics! :)

lizbud
02-02-2003, 10:26 AM
Randi,

It's a humane live trap made by Tomahawk Live Trap Co. in
Wisconsin. It's the same one I've used for all the other kitties.
It has a spring closing door at one end & a lifting door, with a
metal snap at the other. It's big enough for the cat to turn
around & be comfortable. I would not set it out unless I see
him first & would be here to then cover the trap & carry him
trap & all, inside. I must first call the vet to see what day is best
to bring him in. I used to be able to just call the vet & he would
say just go ahead and trap the cat & bring him in whenever you
get him/her, but that was before this vet got so busy.I'd like
to let the vet know ahead of time that one is coming in.
Some of the kitties became very upset inside the trap, some
were just scared, but very quiet. Covering the trap with a sheet
or blanket & soft cooing words seem to help them stay calm till
they get to the vets office. I just dropped off a roll of film Friday
& there should be a few pics of this little orange guy in them. Liz.

lizbud
02-05-2003, 09:34 PM
The vet's office asked me not to bring him in on Monday
as they were "wall to wall" with animals for spay/neuters.
I had forgotten that Feb. is national spay/neuter month with
discounts being offered to get more people to bring in their
pets. Tuesday, I had Puppy Class with my dog Moki & got
home later than usual & the orange boy was not around. I
put out some dry food only anyway, in case he came back later.
Weds. ,the vet is not in the office. I fed him tonight & he seemed
really hungry. I'll set the trap tomorrow after work & hope it
works the first time. He could be at the vets by tomorrow eve
or first thing in the morning. Got the pics back & there are two
pics of him. One is kind of blurry, & the other his face is buried
in the can of Friskies:D I'll post a the pics after I put them on
Imagestation.

lizbud
02-06-2003, 10:44 AM
Here's a pic taken at dusk thru my front window of new stranger.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid50/p9fd022237d2ba3d9571a9a3d8b7d96ce/fcad2206.jpg

lizbud
02-06-2003, 10:46 AM
Another of him/her after the camera flash.( blurry).

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid50/p2a60d1adaf28f6cbe1a010c9a22b1102/fcad2205.jpg

kimlovescats
02-07-2003, 12:26 AM
He looks beautiful, good look trapping him. Sure would like to see this guy indoors and loved by someone as nice as you!

lizbud
02-22-2003, 09:46 PM
Just a note to update on the orange kitty. He's still here.
I've not been able to trap & take him to the vet as yet, but
he's eating 1 can of food & a plate of kibble every morning
and evening.I've built him a sheltered spot on my porch where
he can at least eat in a dry comfortable place. As I don't want
to leave him in the trap overnight,I've only set the trap in the
morning before work. This is not really giving him enough time
to go in it before I give up,take the food out and leave it for
him outside the trap. Time constraints, weather(tons of snow)
and a roving neighborhood dog are making this harder than it
has to be. I wish I could stay home for a week, it would make
this a lot easier. I'll keep trying.One good thing is that he does
trust me a little more now.

lynnestankard
02-24-2003, 10:29 AM
Still hoping you manage to trap him Lizbud - I reckon you will eventually!! Good Luck :) :)

Lynne

lizbud
03-11-2003, 03:32 PM
I was so excited this morning. The little orange kitty was
waiting for me on the porch in his usual spot.I baited & set
the trap out (half covered with a sheet) & went to get ready
for work.When I came back to check, the trap was sprung and
the kitty was inside. Hooray!! I loaded the trap into the car
and kept talking to him to calm him down. As I pulled out of
the garage, I saw the little orange kitty walking across the
neighbor's yard. :eek: Who was in the trap? :eek: Stopped
the car out back & peeked under the sheet & saw a grey/white
cat in the trap that I had never seen before.He was very upset
with me.:rolleyes: So I put the trap on the ground & opened
the "back door" of the trap & he came out & sauntered on down
the alley as I apoligized over & over to him. Oh well, maybe
next time.

lynnestankard
03-11-2003, 03:45 PM
Oh Liz - poor you - so near and yet so far. Better luck next time :D

Lynne