Signature Intaker's *A rant*

[CamCamPup33]

This is for all of you sig maker's you know what it's like to put hour's upon hour's into making signatures for people who may ask.

I have had numerous people tell me that they were hurt because the people who they made a signature for end up changing it so soon. Even though they just made them one, they go and ask another person. Is it because they don't like the signature that was made? Or what? I know how it feel's and it hurt's a bit, to make a signature, and be proud of it (Or not) and have someone change it in the next day or so.

Im not trying to be whiney, but i just wanted to voice my opinion because i know a bunch of you feel the same. Maybe this thread is completely pointless, I don't know, i just think it needed to be said.

*Edit*- To avoid any confusion, this thread is *NOT* intended to point finger's at anyone.

Amber

[joanofark]

I really try not to do that. I like to change my siggy around and I'm always adding new things but when people make me blinkes, siggy ect. I try to use it for awhile. I don't make siggys but I know how it must feel to (like you said) be proud of something you make and then someone just doesn't use it.

You mad a good point!:rolleyes:

[BCBlondie]

THANK YOU!!!! lol

I feel like that a lot and it's really annoying as well as pretty disrespectful to the people that actually take their time and heart into making something nice for someone.

I'm glad someone finally said something!

[binka_nugget]

Oh gosh, do I ever know what you mean. If someone makes me something, I'll use it regardless of whether I like it or not. I think it's only polite that you use whatever you asked for. I put at least half an hour (an hour 90% of the time) into my sigs. If they don't like it, then fine.

There was one that I spent FOREVER on (okay, not exactly forever) and they didn't even use it for more than a couple days (I don't know if they even used it?). I don't mind when people ask for specific colors and such but when you say "I want this name there, that name there, the dogs on one row, the cats on the second row, no blue, no pink, no green, no red, not too big, blah blah blah", it sort of limits our creativity (which is why I offer to do sigs in the first place. Really, if you want it done YOUR way, try making it yourself. ;)

[Toller 42]

Camcampup I know you made me a signature and I was going to use it but then when i tried it said it wasn't available so then i just used the one Kay made me. I'm very sorry if I hurt your feelings but that's why I didn't use it. I try to keep a sig for a while though usually. I've LOVED every sig I've ever gotten:D

[DogLover9501]

I agree, I would also hate that if I made signatures, I never do that(or I try not to) sometimes I may only have a signature up for 2-3 days, but I usually end up using it again(or on other forums, I go to a boxer & cat forum occasionaly)

[catnapper]

I understand and I don't even make siggies! :D I'd be insulted if I made one that wasn't used.

I would think that it makes sense...
If you don't like it, please tell the maker what it is about it --- too busy? don't like the font? Don't like the color? I'm sure the siggy maker would be happy to tweek it and make it perfect!

Its very generous of everyone to offer their time and talent to make these wonderful siggies that we see here.

[CamCamPup33]

If you don't like it, please tell the maker what it is about it --- too busy? don't like the font? Don't like the color? I'm sure the siggy maker would be happy to tweek it and make it perfect!


Exactly. :p

[anna_66]

I never ask anyone to make me siggys but I love when people do (like when we had the siggy exchange...I really liked that!). Like the one I'm using now:D I feel bad that you would be taking up so much of your time to do something for me.
You put alot of time and effort into the siggys you make and I think you do a wonderful job!

[popcornbird]

I have to agree.

I have noticed several people will come to my signature thread and ask for a signature. Then when I check out other peoples' signature threads, just to look at their beautiful work, I see that the VERY same person has asked for signatures from them too, at the very same time.

First of all, it takes me quite awhile to make signatures.....especially when I make 'sets', with a matching signature, avartar, and blinkie. Sometimes it takes an hour +. I *do* enjoy making them, but it feels good to know that the person you spent all that time for appreciates your work. When the person puts it up for one day and immediately changes it, or doesn't bother putting it up at all, honestly, it is very hurtful. And when someone asks me for a signature and I see that they have already asked someone else for one at the same time, I don't want to make one for them. Honestly, its because I know it hurts the other person they asked, and it hurts me too. When that happens, the signature someone spent so much time on never gets used. There have been times when I was too busy to make signatures, but I just didn't have the heart to tell the person asking me for one *no*. I slept at 1:30am that night, because I felt guilty about delaying it too much. After all that effort, the person put it up and replaced it with another after just two days.

When I make signatures for MYSELF, I keep it for months. I don't see why people ask when they're not going to keep it. It isn't fair to the one who spends so much time to make it for them.

I *love* making signatures, but I've been thinking of only making them for my close friends from now on........people who always appreciate them and keep them up there for awhile before changing them. There are people that I know truely appreciate it when I make stuff for them, and some of them keep their signatures up for months. It feels good to see people appreciate the time and effort you spent just for them, and I want to make those people signatures myself. Sometimes I make them signatures as a surprise, because I know they will appreciate it.

When there are people who ask you for signatures, and then discard them, you don't want to make them a signature again. It hurts, and I've been wanting to say something about this for quite sometime, but didn't know how to say it. I'm glad other people feel the same way.

If you want a signature, PLEASE ask only ONE person, and use their signature for at least a few weeks/months before asking someone else to make you a new one.

:(

[Tonya]

I am a total computer illiterate, so I don't know the first thing about making sigs, but I totally understand what you are saying. My feelings would be hurt too.

[Logan]

There are people that I know truely appreciate it when I make stuff for them, and some of them keep their signatures up for months.

That would be me, until you pop up with another one for me, Popcornbird!!! :o Come to think of it, it looks like I need to add my Bennie bird into my signature, at least for a while! Get to work!!! ;)

I had offers from KayAnn and Emma, too, after I had deleted my last signature and I appreciated that so much! I think you are all very thoughtful to spend your time doing this. I don't think I have ever "asked" for a signature before, but I know if I did, I would only ask one person at a time!!!

Thank you to all the signature makers. I always love seeing what's "next" for everyone! :) I have especially enjoyed Jessica's new signature featuring Dawn the last week or so. Isn't it beautiful??? :) If I tried to name all of the ones I have noticed, I'd be here forever! So I'll stop with that one.

[BCBlondie]

WELL SAID, pcb!! I feel the EXACT same way!!!

[sirrahbed]

I sure hope I do not hurt any feelings! I have several siggys by kimlovescats, one from popcornbird and now my newest one by BCBlondie - and I LOVE them all!! I use each and every one of them for a few weeks or months at a time and rotate them. I keep each one and love them! Each has their own style and I think it is great fun to use the variety as much as I like changing my clothes:)

Maybe you are literally talking about people only using a siggy for a few days and that is it?? If so, I would also find that rude and it hurt my feelings.

[Aspen and Misty]

I'm going to stand up for the people who have sig's made and sometimes change them FOR GOOD REASONS. (to just change to change is NOT what I'm defending.)


(Hope this "someone" doesn't take offence to this, I'm not mad and I hope you aren't)
Not to long ago someone made me the most WONDERFUL siggy of Connor, I LOVED it so much but when I found out Breeze was leaving I wanted something to honor the time we had shared together. So I asked her to make me another one and she declined because she was to busy. She also said I just made one for you and I knew I had hurt her feelings and I should have explained more in my first PM. So I told her Breeze was leaving and I wanted one made for her. I then proceded to ask someone else to make me one and hence the siggy I have now.

I didn't change my siggy because I didn't like the one "someone" made for me (infact I think I will put it in again after Breeze is gone) and I didn't put it in because I got tierd of it. I changed it because something important had come up and I felt that it was important for me to make something to honor Breeze and the year she was in my life.

There seems to be alot of Bashing going on on PT latly. :( (not saying you shouldn't have posted this thread)

Ashley

[Kfamr]

Ashley, I think that's a completely different cause. You're the only one who's done something like that. I don't believe, corrrect me if i'm wrong, that that's what anyone in this thread is talking about.

Any caring person should understand WHY you changed your signature.





I really dislike seeing the same request in each signature thread, especially if someone gets theirs finished before I do, because it makes me wonder if I should even bother.

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by Kfamr
Ashley, I think that's a completely different cause. You're the only one who's done something like that. I don't believe, corrrect me if i'm wrong, that that's what anyone in this thread is talking about.

Any caring person should understand WHY you changed your signature.

Thanx Kay, I just want to make sure that the signature makers understand there are more reasons as to why we change our sigs then we dislike them.

Even if I didn't like the siggy I still think I would use it for two or three weeks. The person put SO much time and effort into it that I would feel guilty not useing it! (This hasn't happened yet, thankfully ALL my siggy's I have fallen greatly in love with)

Ashley

[BCBlondie]

Originally posted by sirrahbed
Maybe you are literally talking about people only using a siggy for a few days and that is it?? If so, I would also find that rude and it hurt my feelings.
Yes, some people literally only keep the sig up for a few days, sometimes even less.

There was one time I made a sig for someone, and they never even used it! :( They said they'd "rotate" it, but never did... oh well..

[slick]

You know, I've only have the one siggy that Cookiebaker made me, and even then, it took guts for me to ask. I just hate asking for anything, especially something that is so time-consuming. I won't be asking for any others because Max and Speckles are in my avatar and my RB kitties are in my siggy. When either Max or Speckles takes the one-way train to the RB, then I will have it changed. Until then, I love it and it stays.

I can totally understand how some of you talented siggy-makers would be hurt.

[wolf_Q]

I enjoy making signatures. I feel honored to be asked since mine aren't that great compared to the ones that most people make. However, making them takes time. I'm happy to make them for friends, because I know they actually appreciate and use them. I would get annoyed if a siggy I made was only used for a few days (unless there was a good reason, like a new addition, losing a pet, etc.)

I've noticed several people constantly changing/asking for sigs. Some people seem happy to make them tons, but I wouldn't be.

[sirrahved]

Originally posted by wolf_Q
I enjoy making signatures. I feel honored to be asked since mine aren't that great compared to the ones that most people make.

I think your siggy is beautiful! I've tried my hand at siggy making and I've failed. *notice the lack of siggy block* Just wanted to let you know:)

[wolf_Q]

Originally posted by sirrahved
I think your siggy is beautiful! I've tried my hand at siggy making and I've failed. *notice the lack of siggy block* Just wanted to let you know:)

Thank you! :)

[ILoveMyAbbyGirl]

I've had people NEVER use the siggy's I made for them, and it makes me feel really bad because I work so hard on them to try and make a person happy and give them a good sig, and they don't even regonize it. :(

Good points, everyone.

[slleipnir]

Yeah..like how I made mik a sig that she never used..ever :(

[kingrattus]

I think I've only "asked" for 2 sigs made (I might be wrong, please don't get offended). & I'm still using them. I had dukedogsmum (oh dear I totally forget her user name, but everyone knows who I'm talking about, everyone know Duke). She made me a lovely sig of RB Max. I just couldn't stand looking at his pics anymore, so I took it off of my sig area. Mind u I still use the sig she made me. Its ALL over Max's RB website. I even changed my websit logo from Max to Axle. His pics just hurt too much still. His fav stuffy ontop of my comp with my black lab stuffies is enough of a daily reminder.


p.s. the 2 sigs I have now, have been there since the beginning of the year.

[Ally Cat's Mommy]

I agree. IMHO given the amount of creativity, effort and TIME our wonderful artists put into these sigs, we should use them for a reasonable length of time.

I * think* I have changed mine three times in the 16 months I have been here - my original one from Pops only had Ally, and when Connor arrived Pops made me a new one with both cats, then a couple of months ago Kay made me a new one (at my request - hope I didn't offend you Pops!!!)

So even though I used the sig from Pops for AGES I still felt bad when I changed it, as I didn't want to hurt her feelings!

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by Aspen and Misty
I'm going to stand up for the people who have sig's made and sometimes change them FOR GOOD REASONS. (to just change to change is NOT what I'm defending.)


(Hope this "someone" doesn't take offence to this, I'm not mad and I hope you aren't)
Not to long ago someone made me the most WONDERFUL siggy of Connor, I LOVED it so much but when I found out Breeze was leaving I wanted something to honor the time we had shared together. So I asked her to make me another one and she declined because she was to busy. She also said I just made one for you and I knew I had hurt her feelings and I should have explained more in my first PM. So I told her Breeze was leaving and I wanted one made for her. I then proceded to ask someone else to make me one and hence the siggy I have now.

I didn't change my siggy because I didn't like the one "someone" made for me (infact I think I will put it in again after Breeze is gone) and I didn't put it in because I got tierd of it. I changed it because something important had come up and I felt that it was important for me to make something to honor Breeze and the year she was in my life.

There seems to be alot of Bashing going on on PT latly. :( (not saying you shouldn't have posted this thread)

Ashley

I wasn't talking about you Ashley!!! Honestly! When you asked me for the signature this time, and I told you I was too busy, (and I was.....we had guests coming over 3 days in a row, and I had 5 requests I was working on at the time, plus I was busy with my orientations for college, etc.), I had NO IDEA Breeze was leaving!! Of course I understood your reason this time. I know you appreciated the Connor siggy too. There have been many people who asked me for sigs and either didn't use them at all, or changed them the next day. I wasn't pointing fingers at anyone. I may not even remember several of the people who did that because some of them were people I don't know well at all.

What really peeves me is when people make requests to different people at the same time. Then everyone who got a request makes them, and the person only uses one of them. That is unfair........so very unfair, to the people who put all that effort into making something for you.

Julie, if you even changed your signature several weeks after I made it, I wouldn't mind at all. Its when people change it almost immediately that it makes you feel you did all that for nothing.


Originally posted by Logan
That would be me, until you pop up with another one for me, Popcornbird!!! :o Come to think of it, it looks like I need to add my Bennie bird into my signature, at least for a while! Get to work!!! ;)



Yes Logan, you're one of the people I *love* making signatures for and would make you one even without you asking. I know you always appreciate it, and that makes me feel good. I would love to make you one with Bennie in it.......he doesn't deserve to be left out! :p

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by popcornbird
I wasn't talking about you Ashley!!! Honestly! When you asked me for the signature, and I told you I was too busy at the time (and I was.....we had guests coming over 3 days in a row, and I had 5 requests I was working on at the time, plus I was busy with my orientations for college, etc.), I had NO IDEA Breeze was leaving!! Of course I understood your reason this time. I know you appreciated the Connor siggy too. There have been many people who asked me for sigs and either didn't use them at all, or changed them the next day. I wasn't pointing my fingers at anyone. I may not even remember several of the people who did that because some of them were people I don't know well at all.

What really peeves me is when people make requests to different people at the same time. Then everyone who got a request makes them, and the person only uses one of them. That is unfair........so very unfair, so the people who put all that effort into making something for you.

Thats good. I don't want you to be upset with me! But I was just useing our situation as an example.

About the asking diffrent people - Recently I posted a thread asking someone to make me my Breeze siggy. I felt SO bad because Kay AND Johanna (ScantyNebula) made me a siggy at the same time, both of equel wonderfulness! I had a hard time choosing so I just did it the order it came in. Since Johanna posted hers first I will have her up for awile and then I will put up Kay's. It was tough, and I do NOT know how ANYONE could EVER ask 2 diffrent people to make then siggy's and then choose!!! I also think this is rude. It's like them saying if you make the best product then I will choose you, if not, O well, there goes 2 hours of your time.

Ashley

[auggie]

I’ve only had two signatures. The first one I made myself and I know how much time and effort it takes. Since lack of time is an issue I truly appreciated BCBlondie’s kind offer to make me a new one with all my cats. She did a wonderful job and I fully intend on using it for a very long time.

Thank you so much, BCBlondie!

[sasvermont]

When you folks doing the creating, take the time and devotion to make a signature for someone, you are doing it at your own risk. "Just right" is so subjective. I hope who ever has asked you for the signature at least thanks you! Maybe you should start charging.

I personally don't have a signature after sometime ago, getting dragged through the coals for having TOO BIG of a photo. So I solved that problem. No signature! I did ask someone, a while back, to make me a signature, and then I never sent the photos to her. To me, it just isn't that important!

I happen to enjoy looking at the signatures of others and like to see the changes from time to time. I certainly understand how hurt some people are, but I think you should consider your creations just that....YOUR CREATION....and some folks just may not agree with your taste! Artists must deal with that all the time.

Here's to the artists and their creative skills. We love you all....and also are free to like, dislike and adore your work!

Sas and her photo-less campers

[Logan]

Originally posted by auggie
I’ve only had two signatures. The first one I made myself and I know how much time and effort it takes. Since lack of time is an issue I truly appreciated BCBlondie’s kind offer to make me a new one with all my cats. She did a wonderful job and I fully intend on using it for a very long time.

Thank you so much, BCBlondie!

By the way, Angie, I LOVE your new signature with everyone in it!!!! :D

[swimma253]

ok now I feel bad. :( I think everyone has a great opinion.

But I HAVE done this. And Im sorry. Now I dont know which to use because I requested one from one person, and then one from another at the same time.:confused: So I am trying to switch on and off... Sorry if I hurt any feelings. This was my mistake.

[cloverfdx]

swimma253, no one is being singled out here ;). I have too noticed that when signiture making threads come up that alot of people ask for up to 5 sigs to be made but never use them.

[DJFyrewolf36]

With me, I made a thread asking for a siggy of just Remus. I did ask Kim (who made my original sig, which I still have around :D) first, but she was busy and so I posted a thread in General. When no one replied after a couple of days, I posted to Kays thread about making siggys...then of course at the same time PCB responded to my original thread! Do'h! So I decided, since both siggys were great I used them both! I hope that using both your sigs don't offend you guys! I really do love both sigs, especially because they are in differing styles. Thanks Kay and PCB! I really apriciate the effort you guys put into making my sig (and my avitar, I really like that too PCB).

[MariaM]

:o I've only made one signature for somebody and know how it feels. I admit, I didn't spend a LOT of time on it, mostly because it was requested 'out of turn'. But oh well.

[bluekat]

Now I feel bad too:( I'm very sorry...
I've asked for signatures from different threads before but I DO rotate them. I change them once in awhile, and I don't think that there was any sig before which I have never used. But if I did have one that I never used made from anyone, please tell me.
The reason why I sometimes ask for a sig in different threads is because I love them lol. I think all the sig makers all make very nice sigs, and whenever they offer to make some, I just have to ask for one:p

Ok well, I'm sorry if what I did was wrong and I promise I won't do it again..

[CamCamPup33]

I just wanted to say that we aren't pointing finger's! Honest. We didn't want to start this thread to make you feel like horrible people! :p

I do however, change my signature's. But it's usually after week's and week's. Sometime's everyone just need's a change. But honestly, keeping it for a day or two is what is really bugging us. :p

Amber

[slleipnir]

Or not using it at all. :rolleyes:

[CamCamPup33]

Originally posted by slleipnir
Or not using it at all. :rolleyes:

Is it the one you sent by PM *AWHILE* back?

[dappledoxie]

I feel guilty of this not sure if I am or not though. :( How long is expected to use a sig, the ones I make I usually changed every week or two. I guess I just change alot, lol! I'm really sorry if I've ever hurt anyone's feelings! I love you guys and appreciate the kindness of making me a sig when I've asked, and I've really truly loved them all, I use different ones on the different sites I go to regularly. I'm really sorry you guys :)

[Toller 42]

you guys are making me feel guilty now! I am really sorry if I have ever hurt anyones feelings:) I like to change my signature every couple of weeks, if you would like me to start keeping them longer that's okay just tell me.

[swimma253]

I just got done making my own siggy/avatar set... and I am going to use it. (Not that its any good! lol take a look at it!) I am just feeling good about myself for making my OWN... :) But I really do love the ones you guys made for me! I hope this is ok... :)

Carly

[BCBlondie]

Originally posted by Logan
By the way, Angie, I LOVE your new signature with everyone in it!!!! :D
Aww I'm glad you like the sig I made, Logan and Angie. That truly makes me happy and appreciated. :D Thank YOU!!

Angie, don't feel you have to have the sig up for forever... :p If someone else makes you a sig in a couple weeks or months, you're allowed to change it lol. ;) :)