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cocker_luva
07-17-2004, 11:12 AM
Which Rottweilers do you prefer?

German-bred (bigger, bulkier)
http://www.vonkeller.com/rhea.JPG

or American-bred (smaller, more slender)
http://www.acostarottweilers.com/CRCbody.jpg

just wondering :rolleyes: :D

anna_66
07-17-2004, 12:32 PM
I love them both:D

cocker_luva
07-17-2004, 05:35 PM
:D :D :D

Karen
07-17-2004, 05:36 PM
Whichever is healthier! Who could choose!

stacwase
07-17-2004, 07:25 PM
I like the appearance of the American ones better, because they remind me of Max. The German ones look meaner. (I know - it's just appearances and not true)

Corinna
07-17-2004, 07:32 PM
german wider is better:D

cocker_luva
07-18-2004, 10:46 AM
i personally like the big, husky, german rotts better.

bluekat
07-18-2004, 01:40 PM
I love them both, but the appearance of the American one more though:p

binka_nugget
07-19-2004, 12:32 AM
The German Rottweiler reminds me of a Staffordshire Bull Terrier for some reason. I think it might be the legs and bulkiness.

I like the look of the German one a tad bit more.

Kfamr
07-19-2004, 04:46 PM
Both! :D

*LabLoverKEB*
07-20-2004, 01:27 PM
Both.:) I love every dog, no matter what they look like!:)

Dogz
07-20-2004, 03:42 PM
Definately both. :)

G.P.girl
07-21-2004, 11:50 PM
i like both, i like the build of the german one, but i like the contrast in colors of the americans

Tina
07-24-2004, 10:19 AM
Both.:D But I like the look of the German one just a bit better. I would take both.

Amber
07-24-2004, 10:48 PM
Both, but if I had to choose I perfer the American look :)

cocker_luva
07-25-2004, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by G.P.girl
i like the contrast in colors of the americans

huh?

Rottieluver45
07-25-2004, 09:02 PM
Both! :D

Toller 42
08-06-2004, 07:34 PM
I love both, but I like the bulky German Rotti's a bit more!
I have a Rotti that is a mix between American and German!

here's my girl!http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/p7285969b27020a642b3075ca70d104a6/f7880e9d.jpg

binka_nugget
08-06-2004, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by cocker_luva
huh?

I think she meant that the American's color contrasted more (the brown and black). The German's brown coloring is a tad bit more faded.

Toller 42
08-07-2004, 03:41 PM
Germans can have the same colour contrast as the Americans, the only difference in the 2 is their body shape.

cocker_luva
08-09-2004, 02:05 PM
yea :)

vinjashira
01-21-2005, 07:19 AM
I like them both but I think the American-bred looks nicer

wolfsoul
01-21-2005, 10:27 PM
I like American ones better, from my own personal experience. I had a German rottweiler, and she was not for me.

luvofallhorses
01-22-2005, 06:07 PM
both :D

Suki Wingy
02-08-2005, 10:46 PM
German all the way! I had a neighbour who had one who's parents were both imports, and my was she BEAUTIFUL!!! The American bred one in the pic you put is very nice and somewhat like a German. The Rott at the Eukanuba cup last yr., Elvis I found appauling. All small and pug faced (great in pugs, pekes and bulldogs, but just not Rotts!) and his ears were set way up high on his face!

cocker_luva
02-09-2005, 10:42 PM
they look nice with long tails also

Vette
02-16-2005, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by cocker_luva
they look nice with long tails also

I agree :)

but a undocked Rott is automatiacly thought of as a mix breed by many people. :rolleyes:

and i cant pick either. i might like the German bred ones a smidgen better.. but id have to see both German and American bred ones side by side each other with my own eyes to really pick. even then i probably couldnt. :D

PJ's Mom
02-16-2005, 03:17 PM
My Rottie was an American, but I love them both. :D

Pit Chick
02-21-2005, 12:26 PM
I don't see how it matters since all Rotties are from German lines/origins. Nothing is different except the country they were born in. I've seen some pretty big BYB Rotties home grown here in America so size can be irrelevent to telling them apart, especially when a breed can be rangy in size. And of course anyone will try to boast of their dog coming from "German imported lines" (so they can sell pups for a higher price) like that's something special. Duh, they all are whether they were imported as the first generation or 10 generations back. And don't get me started on how people think that long haired Rotties are a sign of a German bred dog :rolleyes:

wolfsoul
02-21-2005, 01:14 PM
I have to disagree Pit Chick. I know they all come from Germany, but I find that there are two distinct types that have resulted from America's careless breeding. Sure, alot of "German" type dogs can come from America, and "American" type dogs come from Germany. But you will find that generally, German rotties are better working dogs because they are smaller, agile, more compact and muscular. The "American" types are leggier, calmer, and generally have softer personalities. Rottweilers that actually live in Germany now have tails.

Just like with German and American German Shepherds. German ones generally have better health and working ability because Germany is very picky about which dogs go into their breeding programs. American GSDs have a higher rate of bone/joint problems and are very thin framed.

This all happened a long time ago. Some breeds have had time to seperate into different "types." After the war when the Americans brought their working dogs back home with them, these dogs no longer had anything to do. In Germany where things still weren't good, dogs had alot of jobs. Therefore we get the American dogs which were bred for looks rather than working ability, and German dogs which were bred mainly for working ability. So even though you get a dog from Germany that resembles and acts like an American Rottie...even though it is from Germany, I would still classify it as an American rottie.


Here you can see the differences in German and American GSDs: http://www.dogstuff.info/many_different_gsd_in_america.html
http://realgsd.info/im/inim/2heads.jpg


German versus American

"What is the difference between a German Rottweiler and an American Rottweiler?"

The most obvious difference is that the German dogs now have tails. German breeders must breed in strict compliance to the standard. Their dogs must pass a breed suitability test and have their hips certified before breeding.

American breeders are not required to test their dogs before they breed. American bloodline Rottweilers typically do not meet the breed standard. They do not have the structure or temperament of a correctly bred (German) Rottweiler.

A true Rottweiler exemplifies breed type, possesses a stable temperament and has strong working ability. The Rottweiler should be free from inheritable diseases such as hip dysplasia.

In Germany , both parents of a litter must be temperament tested (BH title), breed tested (Ztp) and have their hips certified. One parent must be Schutzhund titled. These stringent requirements eliminate lesser quality dogs from the gene pool.

ADRK breeders are required to use Dogbase before they can breed a litter. Of course, not every German dog is superior.

Many German dogs exported to the U.S. as adults are "rejects" and are not typical of the quality found in Germany. An experienced importer such as Redwood Krest Kennels should be consulted by people wishing to import a top quality German dog.

In the U.S., a litter of puppies may be registered without any fitness for breeding tests. The American Kennel Club registers pups from any Rottweiler combination (assuming both parents are AKC registered). The parents may have bad hips, missing teeth, yellow eyes, white spots, or weak temperament.

This is why the overall quality of American bloodline dogs is very poor. The majority of strictly American dogs are no longer true Rottweilers. These dogs do not meet the Breed Standard, despite having American Championship titles. Many are oversized with very light eyes, pink mouths, missing teeth, wrinkly heads, unstable temperaments and NO working ability!!

A dog that cannot pass a breed test, temperament test or obtain a Schutzhund title should NOT be bred. The Rottweiler is a working breed. The Rottweiler is always ready to work and will protect his family without being unpredictable and dangerous. The Rottweiler is a loyal friend and eager to please.

We maintain these traits in our kennel by breeding only from the finest German bloodline dogs.
http://www.redwoodkrest.com/about/goals/

Pit Chick
02-22-2005, 10:09 AM
Toche!

I guess the point I was trying to make was the terminology people use. For example, a German Shepherd bred in America is still a GERMAN Shepherd or a American Pit Bull Terrier bred in England is still an American Pit Bull Terrier (I hear people try to refer to them as English Pit Bulls)
Just because they are bred by BYBs in America or responsible German breeders a Rottie is still a German dog, just of different quality. If German bred Rotties are sold to an American BYB and they breed as a true BYB can, does that make the puppies American or German just because they weren't bred by German standards or does it take a couple of generations to make them American? If a responsible American breeder breeds "American" Rotties by German standards, does that now make them "German" Rotties? It really seems to all be a big name game for the sake of making more money.

wolfsoul
02-22-2005, 03:42 PM
I understand what you are saying. :) I agree that alot of BYB's will use the "forgein blood" to their advantage. It's sad. :(

sammy101
02-22-2005, 09:39 PM
i love both!but i like the American bred one a tad more:)

Suki Wingy
02-23-2005, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Pit Chick
(I hear people try to refer to them as English Pit Bulls)

really, are you sure that's not an English Staffordshire Bull terrier?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/sukiwingy/PT%20dog%20breeds/stbult.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/sukiwingy/PT%20dog%20breeds/staffy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/sukiwingy/PT%20dog%20breeds/LeonMelenaBuono.jpg

Pit Chick
02-23-2005, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Suki Wingy
really, are you sure that's not an English Staffordshire Bull terrier?

I know the difference, but given the ignorance of the people I'm talking to I'm sure they mean English "Pit Bull" cause that's what someone told them. I've even heard people try to tell me about Japanese Pit Bulls. There is no such thing! :rolleyes:

EssTer
02-27-2005, 05:23 AM
Both :D