View Full Version : CRISIS in Northern Illinois
Sudilar
12-17-2003, 08:17 AM
I've just been notified that a backyard breeder in Joliet is being shut down. Animal Control already has 30 GSDs and are expecting 50-60 more. Most are 6-7 months old. This is just horrible.
I may just have to take in a foster (like that will really help all these poor innocents). I don't know if it is a good idea with Killian's autoimmune disease, though.........but I have to do something!!!!
I am asking for prayers for these poor dogs. What a hopeless situation!
Logan
12-17-2003, 10:38 AM
Helping to save one is better than worrying, Sue. This is a horrible tragedy. :( You keep us posted as you can, please, and all those precious GSD will be in our prayers.
Logan
Sudilar
12-17-2003, 10:50 AM
I e-mailed my vet to ask for her help in checking out these GSDs and also if she thinks it would be ok for Killian to have a foster here again. Hopefully she says yes.
They are being held at the shelter where Killian and Shiloh are from. Four rescues are working on this. I am going to see if I can sneak in and see these guys at the shelter this weekend. What a tragedy. Maybe I can transport.
mugsy
12-17-2003, 11:10 AM
Sue,
Do you know what rescues are working on it? I'm going to contact some and don't really want to overlap. I will call my rescue contacts. Hopefully, Carol (Diesels Mom) will come online and see this and maybe she can help. She is involved with LabLinks. I will do my best.
Molly
Sudilar
12-17-2003, 11:22 AM
Molly, there are four GSD rescues working on this. Northern Illinois German Shepherd Dog Rescue www.gsdrni.org is one of them. I volunteer for them. I am not sure, but Central IL GSD rescue may be in on it, too.
mugsy
12-17-2003, 11:22 AM
I've got my friend Kim on the trail of rescues now. I just had a kid go out and get my cell phone so I could call her and ask. She knows of one rescue that may help and she will give me the info when I call her when I leave school. The battery is low now, so I will call Jackie when I get in the car. I will call Valerie in MN to see if she can help (although I want her to take Mack from Jackie if she hasn't found a place for him). I will call Holly to see what she can do too. I'll alert Carol to your thread and her put feelers out. I will call Ruth when I get home...I know she does rescue, but it's mostly small dogs and they are just a few people who have foster homes. I will probably see if Rosie can take a few at Southside Animal Shelter. I hope they can all be saved. I'm so bad...I have papers to grade and record and what am I doing? Looking for rescues! lol Oh well, this is more important....the kids can wait one more day.
Sue, Kim wanted to know if you could give me any more information so she could pass it along to other rescues.
Molly
Sudilar
12-17-2003, 12:03 PM
Pm'd you, Molly!
Karen
12-17-2003, 12:52 PM
How awfully, awfully sad.
pitc9
12-17-2003, 12:53 PM
I have started e-mail people in my area. I am about 30 Miles East of Cleveland, OH. The rescue I got Sierra from is no longer a GSD rescue, but there is another rescue close to me, and I have sent my spider webbing e-mails to all the people I know that would help! TRUST me... if I had somewhere to house the pups, I'd take as many as I could! But I have a small house!
Paws and fingers crossed that we can help some of these poor pups!!!!:( :(
*The rescue I am contacting is DOGS HOPE in Lake County Ohio*
www.dogshope.com
mugsy
12-18-2003, 11:12 AM
I have a friend in Michigan (the girl who has James Bond, Moses, and Timber the black and tans) who is willing to take the long haired and blacks....Kari has her info....I hope it works out.
Sue, Thanks for the call...it was good to hear your voice. Please let me know. Kari did finally call, but left a voice mail on my cell phone.
Sudilar
12-18-2003, 12:15 PM
OMG, Molly! There are 160 of them coming in now.
I have been there to see them. The eyes, the eyes...Yes, we will need all the help we can get. Kari is going on two days with no sleep and is exhausted. She has been at the shelter since 1:30 this morning and still going, waiting for a new shipment of 30 more dogs in a few hours.
It is hell. I have seen it.
Any all breed rescues, Husky, Beagle, Pit Bull could help by pulling the dogs who are already at the shelter to make room for the GSDs.
This is the shelter Killi and Shi are from...It is a kill shelter.
Gotta go spread the word. Thanks for the help and to all who can help.
DieselsMom
12-18-2003, 12:46 PM
Found this one, Molly!
What shelter is this? Do they have a webpage or anything? I can forward to all of my contacts as soon as I get home from work tonight. Molly - can you send me a link to the shelter page via e-mail?
-Carol
Logan
12-18-2003, 12:48 PM
160, Sue??? OMG..........I don't know what I can offer from this far distance, other than prayers, which I will do right away. Please keep us posted. :(
Logan
12-18-2003, 12:53 PM
Sue, I crossposted to Just Dogs, in hopes that Tracy will see this and jump in with any assistance she can handle. I will crosspost anywhere else i can, as well.
Is there any media link that we can share??? If anyone has something, post it here, so we can share it with the other information.
Logan
DieselsMom
12-18-2003, 01:42 PM
Just got further info on the GSD situation. There is a phone number at the end, if anyone is able to help.
Donations are being accepted - food, blankets, bowls, crates, funds - anything at all!
--Carol
This makes the Arenac Husky Crisis look like a cake walk. OMG.
Permission to Cross Post. Phone numbers given in message are the contact, please don't reply to me or the list.
Laurel
To: <
[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:03 AM
And here's what I'm talking about. Geez. ;-)
This is Beth Riddle writing regarding a very serious atrocity that has occurred in our state and in our little German Shepherd community.
A mentally ill woman was served a warrant on Dec 16th and Dec 17th regarding the removal of animals from her property. The first wave consisted of about 90 dogs and over 70 of them were purebred GSD's. Last night at 11pm I received a phone call from my colleague that had just finished cataloging the final pull from the womans house. 160 young GSD's , nursing mothers, pups, and just a small handful were other breeds. The GSD community is shocked. I am crying and shaking as I write you, because we worked so hard yesterday to pull just the first 22 out of the shelter and get them into rescue. Then as we were going to bed feeling pretty good, I received this phone call. The holidays make finding kennel space impossible. We are begging, we never beg, but we are on our knees to former adopters, contributors, anyone who loves German Shepherds to please help this huge rescue effort. The shelter cannot coordinate the rescues, so it is a team effort consists of Northern IL GSD Rescue, their founder and President is logging and cataloging the dogs, Chicagoland GSD Rescue is digging up a couple spaces and on the phone, Central Illinois GSD Rescue is contacting nationally and coordinating transport, foster care, and will also be pulling some of these angels. They are everywhere at the shelter. They are in cages, kennels, tied to the walls, and though they were eating dirt, had no food, are close to starvation, they just look at us and wag their tails. It is absolutely killing us to see this. We could use money for medical care, we could use puppy canned food and puppy dry food, puppy pan to feed them in, crates, kennels and most of all space! Anyone with a farm that could serve as a temporary M*A*S*H unit, or shelter. I stress there is no where to go with these kids. Transporters for national distribution. I can't even think.
IF you want to help, please call at 217-337-5832 or 217-377-7135 and we'll figure something out. Thank you for your consideration.
Rick and Beth Riddle
Central Illinois German Shepherd Dog Rescue Urbana, IL
Logan
12-18-2003, 02:03 PM
If anyone can provide a Pay Pal link or an address to a specific person/rescue who is accepting donations, it would help. I do not want to flood this woman with phone calls if we can donate from our various states, without interrupting her busy schedule at this time.
Cataholic
12-18-2003, 02:10 PM
Good God. It is all I can say. What a tragedy.
DieselsMom
12-18-2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Logan
If anyone can provide a Pay Pal link or an address to a specific person/rescue who is accepting donations, it would help. I do not want to flood this woman with phone calls if we can donate from our various states, without interrupting her busy schedule at this time.
I'm trying to find out if there is a paypal account or website set up. If I hear any more, I'll post it. I wish I were closer.
--Carol
pitc9
12-18-2003, 02:37 PM
I know I'm not in IL, but I just spoke to a friend that has room, and would be willing to take in a few. She is more than willing to take moms and pups.
She and I will help with the transport as far as we can.
I am starting to collect from people I know for the shelter!
**I just checked and we are 7 hours away from Joliet**
grrrr..... I wish I were closer!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lizbud
12-18-2003, 02:46 PM
Sue,
I saw this on the Illinois Rescue website. Are these the same
dogs you spoke of?
Potential adopters & much appreciated contributors:
http://www.gsdhaven.org/
It does list some more info & paypal account info.
Such a sad thing for this beautiful dogs.:(
Logan
12-18-2003, 02:54 PM
Thank you for letting us know of this additional info. There is a Paypal account listed on that link so we can do something however big or small to help.
mugsy
12-18-2003, 02:58 PM
Kim said she would take a few and my new friend Jackie said she will take at least 10 pups and1 of the moms with nursing pups. We're getting there. Jackie also has a box of collars to donate and a couple of crates. I left Mike an voice mail to see if he cares if we donate most of the crates we have and dog bowls and whatever else we can come up with.
Logan
12-18-2003, 02:58 PM
From Tracy at Just Dogs:
Gosh I haven't been to the Pet Talk board in a long time but there's a huge thread on the situation on the GSD board.
The story is on the Central Illinois GSD Rescue page. It's a major mess but they have many rescues and transporters stepping forward already.GSD Board (http://www.germanshepherds.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=69;t=001140) and Central Illinois Rescue Page (http://www.gsdhaven.org/)
pitc9
12-18-2003, 03:05 PM
I am working here in Cleveland with a group of people to get stuff together to send, also finding people willing to house pups! (at least two people already)
There are a three of us willing to drive at least three of the seven hours between Cleve and the pups!
mugsy
12-18-2003, 03:11 PM
Angie, want to come to Fort Wayne? I am thinking about going up on Saturday if Mike doesn't have a problem with it. We could ride together and split the gas!!
pitc9
12-18-2003, 03:16 PM
I have to check with the people that are willing to take the pups in. (I do not have the room to house any dogs:( )
I also have to check with my hubby.
I'll let you know.
Cincy'sMom
12-18-2003, 03:46 PM
Unfortunatly I am busy this weekend, but if you need help later (like the following weekend) getting some pups closer to you Ang, I may be able to help.
mugsy
12-18-2003, 05:38 PM
Well, if I can take 2 pups with me on Saturday, my school roomie's parents want 2. I hope they can work it out. If all goes right, I think I've found places for 17 or 18 of them.
And, it's official, I'm driving up on Saturday with all the donations.
Sudilar
12-18-2003, 07:07 PM
Thank you for your outpouring of help and prayers. I believe that only 23 are cleared for moving out as of this moment. The rest have to stay for 10 days before they can be released. I will send this page to Kari to let her know.
Molly, I will pm you as soon as I can.
I can't even begin to tell you the horror of looking into those cages. I can't get it out of my mind.......
Sudilar
12-18-2003, 07:43 PM
It will be on the Channel 7 news Chicago. I don't know if it will be tonight or tomorrow.
pitc9
12-19-2003, 06:16 AM
Amy thank you, I will let you know when we get something together for a transport!
Molly, I can not do anything this weekend, but I should have things set up in 10 days when more are released. I'll let the two people know (Jen and Michelle) that can take in a few, I know my one friend Jen is willing to take a nursing mother and pups, but I also think a 7 hour drive might be to long for them!! But then again... it would be better then nothing :(
I just can't stop thinking about these pups....:(
Sudilar
12-19-2003, 07:23 AM
The latest report is that there are over 200 now. This is sickening. The woman won't let them in her home. Each time they go there they find more and more. Mostly puppies. Sick.
Logan
12-19-2003, 07:46 AM
Read this update this morning on the Central Illinois GSD Rescue site.
Update: from Elizabeth (12-18-03): It is much worse than we ever imagined. The final vans arrived last night about 8:30pm. There are 160 just from yesterday. There are a lot of litters of pups and nursing mommies. This has us all in tears, it is too overwhelming. We need pens, whelping boxes, puppy pans, puppy food (canned and solid), Gerber Rice Cereal, powdered milk, and specialty homes that can handle nursing moms and weaning. Please contact us at
[email protected] if you can help. We are not looking for people who think they can do it, we need people that can. It is tons of work. All of these last 160 dogs were inside this ladies house. How someone could do this.....
and
The sadness stems from the fact that this collector had, out of the approximately 90 surviving dogs, over 70 German Shepherds. An additional 160 surviving dogs were confiscated from inside the owner's house. This is a total of well over two hundred dogs that will be needing loving homes and medical care! Most of these dogs are between the ages of 6-9 months. (updated: 12-18-03)
pitc9
12-19-2003, 09:20 AM
........... I just don't know what to say.....:(
The pups and the people needs prayers and donations!!!
mugsy
12-19-2003, 03:12 PM
Oiy! I feel so helpless. I was so excited because I had gotten donations, but, this is simply overwhelming. What's going to happen to the non GSDs? Well, Tammy and I are leaving about noon from Fort Wayne (that's 11am in Chicago), so should be there around 3:30 (2:30cst). I went up and picked up 3 bags of food, about 30 collars and leashes, and 6 bottles of shampoo from a local pet store. I will bringing probably 6-8 crates from home as well as more shampoo. It just seems so little. Well, we do what we can...it just won't be much. :( :(
Sue are you going to go tomorrow?
Cheshirekatt
12-19-2003, 03:24 PM
I cross posted this on another board and I head some good news.
The person I was chatting with and her friend went to the shelter and said there were hundreds of people lined up to adopt the doggies.
Her friend ended up adopting a 14 month old female who will be going home with her next week. :)
At least one happy ending.
mugsy
12-19-2003, 04:23 PM
I've talked to the shelter myself. They are in need of Gerber baby food (chicken), powdered milk, rubber gloves, paper towels....I am adding anti-bacterial cleaners that are pet friendly. I have contacted my local Kroger and the manager said he would give me a $20 gift card, so I'm going tomorrow morning to get some of it before I leave. Maybe that would be a way that out of towners could help. Send a gift card for a grocer.
Also, the woman I talked to said that , yes, there are LOTS of people looking to adopt, but they also have the 500 dogs that they already had, so some may not go.:( But the good news is that there are a lot of people trying to help.
Logan
12-19-2003, 07:24 PM
Molly, reading about all that you are doing warmed my heart tonight. Thank you for taking the first day of your vacation to go help these dogs and volunteers. I wish I were closer and could do something more than just send money. Will be looking for updates when I get back into town on Sunday.
Logan :)
Cinder & Smoke
12-20-2003, 07:54 PM
Hopefully MOLLY will check in with a FirstHand report...
There have been 3 pages of Posts on the GSD Rescue BBS today -
All reporting or comenting on some reported problems with
how the rescue effort is stumbling over DoA "red tape" and "regulations".
Feel free to read it for yourself...
The FirstHand Reports *START* at the Bottom of Page 7...
GSD Rescue BBS - CURRENT SITUATION (Pg 7) (http://PetoftheDay.com/talk/showthread.php?s=&postid=568805#post568805)
Sure hope Molly's Efforts were better appreciated than some were...
/s/ Phred
mugsy
12-20-2003, 09:08 PM
Well, after an exhausting and emotionally draining day, we are home as of 9:35 with the dogs all fed by 9:40 (and checking on Pause the stray cat).
We were greeted by a chaotic situation. There were people EVERYWHERE! There was not one parking place to be had in the entire place. People were parking on the side street and walking. We pulled in and after 2 attempts, someone finally opened the gate and we drove back to the receiving area. We opened the side door and the back and the people's eyes about popped out of their heads. We had between 350-375 pounds of dog food, probably 20 rolls of paper towel, a bag of puppy pads, about 45 jars of baby food, about 12 bowls, pet meds, a laundry hampter, a bag of about 30 collars and leashes, a GIGANTIC box and a smaller box of dried milk, 15 bottles of dog shampoo, 40 pairs of latex and vinyl gloves, and 4 crates (we just couldn't get to the rest of our since they were in our storage unit all the way to the back and it would have taken us hours to get to them).
We were then greeted by the director of the shelter, Linda, who promptly told us that God would bless us and gave Mike a big hug. She then invited us into the back of the shelter and gave us a tour. She even allowed us into the impound room to see the dogs that are evidence in the case. Tammy put a hold on 2 of the dogs.
I will say that there were just not enough employees there to do the work. They need at least 10 people that all they should be doing is cleaning kennels. They all had feces in them, but other than that were fine. Such sad sweet faces. There was an Am Staff and a yellow lab that tugged at my heart strings especially.
I talked to Linda and she said that Animal Welfare League is a no kill adoptable shelter, meaning that any animal that is not too sick (like mortally sick) or too aggressive will not be euthanized. That place is like a maze. They have 600 kennels and then there were cages with dogs in them out in the halls...just everywhere. When we finally made our way into the main lobby 15 minutes before they closed and it was still packed and there were still employees there handing out applications. The dedication of this staff was amazing.
Honestly, besides the chaos, I was actually pretty impressed with the place. The people working in the isolation room with the 29 pups that are on IVs, all wore disposible sterile suits. They have 5 vets on the payroll. Also when we got there, we went back in the donation area and there were 4 pallets full of donated dog food waiting to be brought in and people were bringing in bags as we were leaving. There was a constant flow of people donating. My friend Susan's parents are going to adopt 2 of the pups and the adoption fee will total $170 and they will be donating $230 additional dollars.
Ok, I'm done babbling now. If anyone has any other questions that we can answer just let me know!
mugsy
12-20-2003, 09:25 PM
Oh, and Linda also said that the dogs that they feel will be hard to place will be allowed to go into rescue, but other than that, they will stay there. They have so many apps on these dogs that it sounds as if when they come out of impound on Tuesday that the vast majority of them will already be spoken for, but, I don't know that for sure. It sounds like the DOA has decided that AWL is the place for them to be. Animals were literally walking out the doors in a constant flow.
Sudilar
12-20-2003, 09:25 PM
Well, Molly, Mike and Tammy, it was nice meeting you today. Yes, everyone, Molly and Mike brought a wonderful gift of a massive amount of supplies for the poor dogs at AWL. I have seen for myself that something I have always believed to be true....that Molly and Mike really are ANGELS!!!!!
mugsy
12-20-2003, 09:29 PM
Thanks Sue, it was great meeting you also. Diana will have to bring you and Shiloh to Findlay in the spring. Diana.....YOU PROMISED!!!
Thanks for all you do with your rescue also....I would classify you as an angel on earth too for all that you have done for the rescue and for dear sweet Killi.
Sudilar
12-20-2003, 09:36 PM
Thank you, Molly.
Please keep me updated on Susan's puppies and Tammy's Black and the Rottie.
mugsy
12-20-2003, 09:38 PM
We'll see what happens with Tammy's....Andy is being a butthead so I don't know what's going to happen. I know that they told her that they had to bring Ruthie and Zeus up to meet the dogs and see how they get along. I will keep you updated.
mugsy
12-20-2003, 10:24 PM
Phred, your link won't work for me.
Cinder & Smoke
12-20-2003, 10:56 PM
Sorry; but I tested it...??
Try THIS:
GSD Rescue BBS - 1st page (http://www.germanshepherds.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=69;t=001140)
SKIP to the Bottom of Page 7 -
that's where the Returning Volunteers started posting.
/s/ Phred
Cincy'sMom
12-21-2003, 09:42 AM
Molly- I can't imagine walking into that and not wanting to bring ALL the dogs home!!! You guys are awesome!!!
mugsy
12-21-2003, 10:00 AM
Oh trust me....I wanted to load them all up and take them home, but, they are in the best place for them. They have 24/7 vet care and are getting food and water. They are getting care that no one person or rescue could provide for them right now. Do I wish that they would all have homes for Christmas, of course. They deserve to be in a warm, safe, loving home. But, if they don't stay and aren't monitered all the time, they may be sick or not be able to provide the evidence needed to nail this piece of crap to the wall. There were so many dogs....Labs, Malinois, Belgian Sheperds, Am Staffs, Danes (oh God the one I saw....there are at least 7 females with pups....was so pathetic looking), Japanese Chins, and of course the GSDs that got all the attention drawn to the case (a good thing). I guess when the dogs are released my friend Kim may be taking 3 or 4 into her rescue since she is a DOA approved rescue, but, I don't know that for sure. They may all have homes by the time they are released from impound, which is part of the sticking point with the GSD rescue because they think they should be rehabilitated first.
I can't tell you how hard those employees were working when we were there yesterday. I was amazed. Like I said, I've never been to a place like that....600 kennels and cages everywhere. Oh and I didn't mention that they had a pot belly pig, some geese (who promptly started talking to Mike), a chicken and a rooster, LOADS of bunnies. They have a room set aside solely for wildlife too.
pitc9
12-21-2003, 10:26 AM
I just read the board from the GSD site, and I'm sick!
It sure sounds like those dogs that are being adopted now.... are going to be comming back in a few months! Or like someone on that board said "After a few months, most of these GSD will have come out of there shells, and the owners will not have been ready for it, and they will spend the rest of there lives chained to a tree in the back yard!!!"
They are not checking backgrounds or anything on the people that want to adopt these pups!!
The shelter is going to be like this again in a few months....
with all the same dogs!!!
How sad!!!!
:(
Sudilar
12-21-2003, 10:39 AM
We will be seeing some (not all) of those dogs again, in rescue, I'm sure. On the bright side, some will be going to good homes.
Logan
12-22-2003, 09:54 AM
Molly, I have been gone all weekend, and just read your update. Thanks to you and Mike for doing all that you did, and especially to you for sharing the good information on the shelter.
Those precious dogs will remain in my prayers. :)
mugsy
12-22-2003, 04:11 PM
Well, Logan, just remember, it's just my opinion. Time will tell if I'm right or wrong. We were glad to help. It always does a heart good to see your work reap some benefits.
KitKat023
12-22-2003, 04:34 PM
If anyone can get one or more to me I would gladly take them in and find them homes here....
mugsy
12-22-2003, 04:47 PM
KitKat, that's really nice of you to offer, but, as far as I understand, the only people who will be able to take these dogs will be Dept. of Ag approved shelters. I heard somewhere that they would also only give them to shelters in IL. I would suggest that you call the shelter and ask for Linda (leave her a message) and let her know that you're willing to help.
KitKat023
12-22-2003, 05:19 PM
I would if I had long distance, I'm in Oklahoma. My hubby voulenteers at one of the urban shelters here, I at a suburban shelter here. We take in animals all the time, get them checked out by the family vet, and when they are ready, find them good homes here...
mugsy
12-22-2003, 06:02 PM
I think you could probably email them. Just put it to attention Linda the director.
Sudilar
12-22-2003, 09:05 PM
Molly, please read p. 11 on the GSD bb http://www.germanshepherds.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=69;t=001140;p=11#00 0271
:eek: :eek: I told you there was a "great room". That is what I saw on Thursday.
mugsy
12-22-2003, 09:18 PM
I guess I didn't totally understand the post, but got the jist of it. Like I said....we CHOSE not to go into some of the rooms. Those dogs won't be released for adoption, I'm sure. Some may be way too far gone...too sick. I don't know...I'm just too tired tonight to argue about it. I just hope it all works out. I still say there is another part to this that is not being told...on BOTH sides.
Sudilar
12-25-2003, 10:24 AM
Here's the story from today's newspaper. There was a picture with the story in the newspaper that shows a corner of the great room with the cages piled two high, however it is not in the on-line story.
http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/yrtwn/swest/251swyt3.htm
mugsy
12-25-2003, 03:10 PM
Thanks Sue!! That's nice to hear. I wish the guy would have mentioned all the donations of a bag of dog food here and a bag of dog food there, because it all adds up. I hope your holiday is going well. My thoughts have been with the dogs all week!
Sudilar
12-25-2003, 10:40 PM
Molly both you and Pam brought in over 350 lbs. each. My parents brought in four boxes of food as did so many others. I also contacted Petsmarts charities.
Some bad news. Some of the dogs have tested positive for parvo. Needless to say, I won't be able to go over to help as planned on Saturday.
Did you hear anything about the two pups and the black you were to pull yet?
mugsy
12-26-2003, 06:35 AM
Don't count on the black for Tammy and Andy....they can say that they want all they want, but they probably won't do anything about it....I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
I am supposed to call and talk to Linda today and see what the status was. If they have parvo, there may be none available. :(
I wrote a letter (email) to Rex Robinson to let him know I appreciated the effort of writing the article, but, that there were many "plain folk" that donated also, and I was sorry that he hadn't mentioned that. We'll see.
Sudilar
12-26-2003, 11:37 AM
I agree so much, Molly, there were so many extra-ordinary people donating supplies and food and time cleaning and bathing and walking....etc. None of them were given credit.
Since parvo has struck, I am banned from the shelter because of the threat to Killian. I had planned on walking them on Sat. but now that's off. Maybe down the line in a few weeks if they are still in impound (and no parvo shows up) I will be able to go back there.
Did Tammy at least call Linda or Julie to take the hold off of the black so he or she will have a chance at rescue or adoption??? I'd hate to see him sitting there waiting and getting sick (GSDs don't cage well....however maybe these do because that's all they knew in the past :( )
Sudilar
12-26-2003, 03:25 PM
For anyone interested in the continuing plight of the impounded GSDs in IL, the GSD bb has started a new thread being that the original is toooo long.
Continuing plight of the GSDs in IL (http://www.germanshepherds.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=69;t=001153;p=1#000 000)
lizbud
12-26-2003, 06:07 PM
Sue,
I have read much, but not all, of the links of GSD board people
and there seems to be a lot of bickering going on. Do you know
who is coordinating this resue & placement effort? I do hope that
many, many dogs can be saved. It's very scary to think what
kind of health they are in after being neglected for so long, The
news of adding Parvo to the list of health issues is very sad.:(
I have been & will continue to pray that many can be helped
and rehomed.
mugsy
12-26-2003, 06:08 PM
I just talked to Linda and she said the impound is still on, but to call her on Monday to see what's going on. She said that there are 2 female GSD pups that will be availabe when the impound is lifted. I have a feeling that there will be a lot of dogs leaving to forever homes when that impound is lifted. She said all but 6 of the pups are off of IVs and getting fat and sassy. There is one little guy that has a frost bitten paw and may lose it, but, they get along fine and at least he will be alive. She was far more upbeat than she was last Saturday, so it sounds like things are moving along. She took our names and number and will call us when there is a need.
mugsy
12-29-2003, 01:08 PM
OMG!!! I am SO mad!! I just got off the phone with Linda. I told her what I had been reading about the shelter and she about came unglued. She said that if the slanderous remarks continued that she will be taking legal action.
1. The dogs are under IMPOUND by the DOA.
2. The majority of the dogs are NOT GSDs they are Belgians and Malinois. And the screening process will include extensive checks.
3. Linda WILL be working through one rescue when the dogs are released, and that person will be in charge of decided what dogs go to what rescue, since she is better versed than Linda is.
4. There was NO parvo in the shelter....it is a combination of 2 worms that make the poop smell like parvo, but it is NOT parvo. Like she said, if it had been parvo the shelter would have been on shut down until they had it under control.
5. She has sent out an open invitation to anyone with questions to call her directly at the shelter and she will answer any questions that anyone has.
6. They have a 700 square foot isolation area that has its own heating and air conditioning with 5 vets that are on their staff so that the animals have 24/7/365 vet care.
7. The rescue that was asked to leave came at 9:30 at night when Linda was NOT there and were turned away, being that it is private property and is not open to the public all the time.
It just infuriates me that flat out lies are being spread at this point. I encourage anyone who has questions to call her and she will give you the information you choose. The number is 708-636-8586, and ask for Linda.
Sudilar
01-15-2004, 09:07 AM
Newspaper update:
http://www.saukvalley.com/282091560825360.bsp
mugsy
01-15-2004, 09:56 AM
Sue you read my mind. I was just thinking about them today! Thanks for the update. I have to call Linda and see if there is anything else they need and possibly do another run up there.
Sudilar
01-21-2004, 10:32 AM
Our rescue is now Department of Agriculture approved! I wonder if we will be getting any of the dogs when the impound is over.:confused:
mugsy
01-21-2004, 11:31 AM
That's great news Sue! Any news about the impound being released?
Sudilar
01-21-2004, 11:35 AM
I haven't heard anything yet, Molly.
Logan
01-21-2004, 10:26 PM
The article wouldn't open for me, Sue, but I am hoping and praying that things work out for these dogs. Please keep us posted.
Logan
Sudilar
01-21-2004, 10:46 PM
This link is active Amboy dogs (http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/1844/) and pictures where it says update on this pagePictures (http://www.nbc5.com/family/2715873/detail.html)
pitc9
01-22-2004, 10:19 AM
Oh.... just look at those faces!!!!!!!!!!!
clara4457
01-22-2004, 09:11 PM
Congrats Sue. Hopefully you will be getting some of these poor pups.
Sudilar
01-24-2004, 02:23 PM
By shear luck, I met one of the Amboy Malinois puppies today at Petsmart!! As we were choosing a toy for K & S, there was a Malinois puppy. I asked if she was a "Malinois" for conversation sake (I knew she was) and I was told that she was one of the Amboy pups they were fostering. The little darling was ill when they got her, with worms and NO toes on one foot. Today, she was one gorgeous, energetic little pup. This one pup sure did luck out to find a wonderful new family (I believe they were going to adopt her after the impound was up)!! Today she was going to her first puppy class. She was absolutely adorable!!!!!!
mugsy
01-24-2004, 04:49 PM
Oh that's so cool!!! Don't you wish you carried a digital camera with you all the time? Thanks for telling us.
Sudilar
01-24-2004, 10:10 PM
Molly, I wish I owned a digital camera!!! I must add that the pup was really friendly, too!!
mugsy
01-27-2004, 07:44 AM
I sure hope those dogs are released from impound pretty soon. That awful, horrible woman just continues to harass those dogs....now making them stay at the shelter when there are people out there waiting to take them into their homes.:mad: :(
guster girl
01-27-2004, 08:23 PM
I didn't read all of the posts on this thread, but, is there any way to get a puppy adopted to someone here in the Dallas/Forth Worth area? I have a friend that may be interested. Please let me know! Thanks!
Sudilar
02-04-2004, 10:50 AM
Molly, the dogs have been released from impound. Have you talked to Linda about getting the pup for Kim yet? Now is the time.
Our rescue has called and offered our help (we are now DOA licensed), but apparently they do not want it. :(
mugsy
02-04-2004, 11:47 AM
I'll let Kim know and I told Susan too, so if her parents are still interested they can call. Thanks for the update!!! I'll bet most of the dogs will be adopted very quickly with all the pubicity that was generated. What happened to the demon seed McCoy?
Sudilar
02-04-2004, 12:14 PM
She didn't get anything like what she deserves: three felony counts of of aggravated cruelty to animals because of the three dogs found dead on the property and 12 misdemeanor counts of cruelty to animals. If she wanted the dogs back, she would have had to pay $98,000 for care at AWL.
I called AWL and they said to come on down if you have your app for adoption in already and they'll show you the dogs (still being held in their special area) or fill out an app when you get there. Rescue has already taken some out.
Be sure to tell Tammy to tell them to release that black dog she put a hold on, into adoption if she hasn't already done it. I would hate for that one to go unnoticed.
Let me know what you hear.
leslie flenner
02-04-2004, 08:00 PM
Curious to know (and I'm originally from Illinois but don't know) what laws if any, are to prevent her from getting another pet at all? And what kind of follow up will happen to make sure she doesn't?
Anyone?
Sudilar
02-11-2004, 11:54 PM
Our rescue has two of the female (ages 1 and 3) Amboy dogs in our available foster homes. One more male is on hold for another of our fosters. There are about 25-30 dogs still available. AWL is keeping all the pups under one year old to adopt out. When more foster homes come available we will be able to pull more.
mugsy
02-12-2004, 06:41 AM
Great news Sue!! Leslie, I don't know what the laws are in IL, but in IN there aren't any laws that I know of that prevent them from owning again. I believe that there are judgements against people, but, no law on the books.
leslie flenner
02-12-2004, 07:35 PM
Well that's not good! Especially because I'll bet they don't have the staffing to continuously check on past animal owners ; even if the court does say "no more pets for you for one year" or whatever. Who can keep checking? It would be easy to get away with. Well, they can only do so much, I know... Thanks for info mugsy!
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