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ashleyweaver02
09-22-2003, 12:43 PM
I have a cat named Shadow, who is VERY sweet, male DLH, black neutered cat, was declawed when we found him as a stray but has VERY strong teeth. Our vet has told us that it is possible he has some maine coone in him. He follows us everywhere and has lots of behaviors like a dog. He usually goes outside during the day unless the weather is not good.

Recently, we kept a cat for a friend that went on vacation and the cat stayed at our home. Shadow followed him around and just wanted to sniff him, and the other cat wanted nothing to do with him, hissing when Shadow got too close. Shadow never hissed back. This led us to believe that Shadow MIGHT want a friend. We had discussed this prior to keeping the friends cat so this kind of confirmed our decision.

So we adopted a cat from our local shelter, Topper is his name, and he likes to stalk Shadow and then attack him :(
He is a Maine Coone mix, long hair, neutered, clawed in front and back. We kept them both separated for about a week with a towel under the door so neither could hiss at the other, etc etc.

After about a week we let them see each other from a distance. Shadow surprisingly hissed at Topper. Topper just barely peeked his head out and let out a soft MEOW (as in...please just be my friend) :). This happened several times. We then tried the tuna trick. We put tuna on each side of the door for each cat so they could associate positive thoughts. Topper was eating his tuna and Shadow came up to the door and hissed (uninterested in the tuna). So we left them apart again. We would let them out while we were there to supervise. They seemed to only hiss at each other when we would pay attention. Once we found them sleeping together (not touching, but close) so we thought maybe this was a good thing.
Shadow always sleeps in our room with the door closed, so we would let Topper roam at night while Shadow slept. ABout the third night (after the week of separation), Shadow wanted out in the middle of the night so we let him out thinking it would be okay since we wouldnt be down there for them to "put on their show". BAD idea. Less than a minute later we heard the cat fight. So went downstairs and broke up the fight, separating them again. When we brought Shadow back up he was mad at us and decided to sleep in the closet for the night. The next morning we tried to pick him up and he let out this horrible MEOW, as in he was in major pain and was dying. When he walked his tail would hang kind of like a cows tail, and he just looked really tired and worn out. After it didnt get better by the next day we took him in to the vet. They found an abscess wound on his back and puncture marks on his sides (they said it looked like he tried to get away). THey had to shave the area where the bite was and he was not very happy about that. They had to give him some kind of shot and he has been on antibiotics (amoxicillin) until it runs out, the wound is slowly starting to not produce so much puss from the infection.

Shadow is now very frightened by this cat (understandably so). He won't come in from outside unless we pick him up and show him it is okay. He also won't go downstairs in the morning without us carrying him and showing him it is okay. Although was the first day he did, very slow and cautious.

How should we go about re-introducing them? I am afraid Shadow is so terrified of him that this might not work. I really would hate to have to take Topper back as I have bonded with him. We have had him now for about 2 weeks, so this has all been within a matter of 2 weeks.

Any advice you have would be appreciated.

I have ordered some "Flower Remedy" stuff from a website but still waiting for it to come in, if anyone knows anything about how those work please advise :) THANKS and SO sorry for the long post!

sqwelch
09-23-2003, 03:26 AM
Poor Shadow, I'm afraid I don't have any advice as both my cats were brother and sister so I've never had this problem. One of my cats passed away recently and I've thought about getting a friend for Bonnie but I don't think she would take it very well !!! I hope the 2 cats start to bond soon, I know how quickly you get attached to the new cat and it would be a shame to have to rehouse him !!!

Good Luck I'm sure with time they will come round !!!;) Fingers Crossed !!

momofcats
09-23-2003, 03:09 PM
Welcome to Pet Talk!

Unfortunately I can't offer any advice either since both of mine were babies when I got them, but I just wanted to wish you the best with your situation.

I could be completely wrong here (and someone correct me if I am)...but from my understanding it may be more difficult to introduce a male cat to another male...territory issues. :confused:

I don't have any advice, but I will keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best.

krazyaboutkatz
09-23-2003, 04:09 PM
Welcome to Pet Talk ashleyweaver02. :D I'm so sorry to hear that you're having such a difficult time in introducing your new cat to your resident cat. Actually it's usually much easier to introduce a male cat to another male cat as long as they're both neutered. I have 4 male cats and have only had one problem many years ago in which I had to end up returning the cat. I've always found that it's much easier to introduce a younger cat or kitten to your cats. Also sometimes a cat just isn't good with other cats and no matter what you do it needs to be an only cat. There have been a few people on Pet Talk that have had major problems and had to then rehome their new cats. I hope that you won't have to resort to this but since Shadow is so scared of Topper right now you may always have a problem.

Some people have tried feliway spray or plugins to help calm their cats. Others have tried rescue remedy which you put in their drinking water to also help calm them down. Sometimes these things will work and sometimes they won't. I'm sorry that I'm not much help but hopefully some other Pet Talker's will reply with some better ideas. Some cats will never get along and will learn only to tolerate each other. My cats Storm and Cirrus don't like each other but they've never had a cat fight that drew blood either. If they did I think I'd be forced to rehome Cirrus since Storm was here first.

Good luck and please keep us updated. :)

ashleyweaver02
09-23-2003, 04:11 PM
When we adopted him we were told that he was too aggressive for female cats but he as in foster care with other male cats and was fine so I don't know what the deal with Shadow is? Shadow is just so laid back and doesn't like to play much. My theory is that he didn't mean to hurt Shadow that he just wanted to play. I have orderd the feliway spray and the drops for their food/water. I will keep you guys updated :)

PayItForward
09-23-2003, 04:48 PM
Welcome Ashley to PT,

Two weeks is such a short time, it can take cats up to 6 months to settle in properly.

I would seperate the cats now, placing the new cat in a spare room, to give them a break from each other.

They need to be introduced very very slowly and only under supervision. I wouldn't leave a new cat unsupervised with the established ones for at least a month maybe longer.

Best of luck with the feliway, I have heard good things about it.

Please bear in mind sometimes two cats won't get along together what ever you do, I consider the attack on Shadow as a very bad sign and how ever much you have bonded with Topper, Shadow was there first and deserves priority.

I hope things work out for you, I really do.

PS. We like photos of cats on this website. Hint Hint.

ashleyweaver02
09-23-2003, 04:49 PM
I couldn't figure out how to post the pics but they are on my website at
http://home.kc.rr.com/ashleyramsey
under "PETS" :)

RedHedd
09-23-2003, 05:07 PM
Aww! Welcome to PT! Your kitties are beautiful - sorry you're having such a hard time introducing them to each other. It does take T-I-M-E. I was amazed at how long -- at least a month. My two were not OK with each other until around 6 weeks of a VERY SLOW introduction period. Mishi was completely separated from Mitzi for almost three weeks before he started balking at being locked up and I decided to see how they would be together. It was NOT harmony or love at first sight, but there was no blood drawn -- just lots of hissing and puffing -- no clawing or bighting <whew!> Mitzi still just tolerates him, but she does let him lick her and sometimes when I sneak a peak they will be almost touching while sleeping -- but no snuggling/cuddling .... I'm trying to get a picture of them together - it's so cute - cat-butt-to-cat-butt :D

Give it time, separate them. Slowly get them used to each other's scent by rubbing them with a towel and then letting the other cat have access to the other cat's scented towel. They are all about smell! It's an amazing process to watch unfold. Please keep us posted on your progress, or lack thereof ... and more pictures please! :)

PayItForward
09-23-2003, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by ashleyweaver02
I couldn't figure out how to post the pics but they are on my website at
http://home.kc.rr.com/ashleyramsey
under "PETS" :)
Very Beautiful cats. Who is mitty the kitty ? (Got to love that name)

krazyaboutkatz
09-23-2003, 09:49 PM
Ashley, I just saw Shadows and Toppers pictures and they're both gorgeous cats. :) Shadow looks like my RB Pepper's twin. I unfortunately had to put him to sleep this past February. You can read his story under cat of the day archives. He was featured this past Sunday Sept. 21st.

ashleyweaver02
10-01-2003, 01:18 PM
Mitty the Kitty lives with my mom, he was my very first cat a long time ago, well before Thisbe which lived to be 22, died a few years back. Mitty we got from a litter as a kitten back in 1988. So he is getting old but the sweetest cat EVER :)

ashleyweaver02
10-01-2003, 02:17 PM
Also Mitty's real name was Mittens, which was also his mothers name (b/c all 4 paws are white the rest of him is gray) but when we found out he was a boy we started calling him Mitty. He had a sister named Angel, all black cat, very pissy cat to say the least so the name wasnt too appropriate. Angel was my sisters cat and loved only my sister but unfortunately had to be put down 2 years ago, we miss her even though she was always so PMS like :)