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SeamusK
09-13-2003, 02:23 PM
I'm Wondering Who here Has (a) wolf hybrid(s)
EssTer
09-13-2003, 02:30 PM
is his pic? I canīt see :(
SeamusK
09-14-2003, 10:39 PM
OK.
Kater
09-14-2003, 10:48 PM
The only person I know of with a wolf hybrid is Souraya/"DoggiesAreTheBest."
Here are some pretty recent pics of her dog, Drake, a wolf/GSD mix:
http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32540
tomkatzid
09-15-2003, 12:33 AM
My friend Erin has several Wolves. But her's are Wolves, they are not mixed with dogs. They have to have zoo fencing to keep them. These pic's are about 8 yrs old, a little older 8 1/2.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/p5b7ae46c5ad25906704c655aa5733949/fc7e14e2.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pc080b667a87b231e53b31713e16dff7e/fc7e14e3.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/p09744ef81634b1151ae536c029404437/fc7e14e9.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/p9734892fc63814e0f02a4e78656a7ff3/fc7e14ed.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pcf5abd0d73c76fdc7eb7b52325c50310/fc7e14f2.jpg
SeamusK
09-17-2003, 11:20 PM
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! :rolleyes: I'm so jealus... Btw... I could pretty much say my dog is 100 Percent wolf. Not all together timber wolf.. But his dad was 100% German Shepherd and he was Bred off of 2 wolves, Timber Wolf, And i forgot the other :confused:... Anyway... Tell her, That her wolves are sooo Beautiful and i dream every night of getting to meet a real wolf pack :-) I live in cincinatti, I'm gonna goto the Columbus zoo sometime soon to see the wolves..... ERRR they are soooo beautiful.... Huskies i love them aswell, And malamutes, They look alot like wolves...
BUCKEY IS TURNING A YEAR OLD ON THE 19TH OF SEPTEMBER YAYYY! I will get pics of him on his Birthday And of course some of jefe, Hes our GSD pure breed.. hes beautiful also. hes about 8 yrs. old... :-)
Bahaha... Sorry... i'm really hyper today.. Started my day off with 5 shots of Espresso WEW =D
:eek:
I Made this thread in the first place so i could check out the other Wolf Hybrids/Wolves on the website... Like... Drake...
Goodnight..
pitc9
09-18-2003, 10:24 AM
Oh I LOVE wolves also!!
I love it becuse when I take Sierra out, little kids always ask me if she's a wolf!!!
I went to the Cleveland Zoo last weekend, and the wolf thing was closed because they are remodeling!!! I saw where they were holding them, and I snuck over the split rail fence and was looking at them!!!
Corinna
09-18-2003, 10:34 AM
Tomkatid, soon in Arlington you'll have a place to go and film wolves and wild preditors. Wild eyes is moving from here to the old Lama farm there by Smoky point. They have a lot of bears wolves and things . They cater to wild life photographers they are a tad expencive though .
stacwase
09-18-2003, 11:19 AM
If you all want to see wolves, then you should come up near where I live. I live in the upper penninsula of Michigan (the part that's not actually attached to the rest of Michigan, but to Northern Wisconsin). Whenever we go to Minnesota, we drive through an area with lots and lots of wolves. About a month ago, on the way to International Falls, MN, we saw 4 different wolves, several miles apart. On the way home, we saw 3. The wolf population in that area of Wisconsin has actually reached its limit, and wolves are spreading as far South as Door County, Wisconsin.
The place where I've seen the most wolves is surrounding Ashland, Wisconsin. The people there see wolves so often that to them it's no big deal at all - the wolves are actually nuisances. I've heard lots of stories. One guy has a wolf pack that runs through his yard every morning in winter - leaving a deep track in the snow. The people there are actually quite upset about them, as they have killed many pets. The story is that they tend to lure dogs off and kill them.
The locals up here don't like wolves much - they say they're "mean" because they start eating the little fawns without killing them first, and the fawns scream quite loudly.
Anyways - if you ever get a chance to vacation up here, there are lots of campgrounds. We heard wolves howling while we were camping not too long ago. Also, I rent a house in a town where I work frequently and I've heard wolves howling at night there. The locals verified that there are actually wolves around, so I wasn't imagining it.
wolflady
09-18-2003, 11:56 AM
stacwase, that is wonderful that wolf populations are returning in your area. I have heard that too. It's sad that people are so uneducated when it comes to wolves. They are shy and I am surprised that you have seen them. What a blessing:D
Wolves are more scared of humans than the other way around! ;) I'm surprised that they would resort to eating, killing pets because wolves do not tend to like non-natural diet (ungulates, rats, mice, rabbits, grains). Unless there is not enough of their wild prey available, they will resort to pets and domisticated livestock. Coyotes tend to be a little more open to human contact because they have had to learn to survive in the overpopulation of people into their natural habitat.
When I was in college, I worked at Wolf Park in Indiana. It was so wonderful and I really learned a lot. There are lots of pictures there of the wolves if anyone is interested in seeing them.
http://www.wolfpark.org
I also have tons of pictures of them from my years there.
tomkatzid
09-18-2003, 12:12 PM
Erin used to live in the city of Seattle. A neighbors dog was found dead. They took Erin's 2 wolves and kept them for 8 months at the Animal control, waiting for the court date. The people said the wolves killed their dogs and that some city employees saw it happen. After being locked up for 8 long months these dogs were off the hook and allowed to return home. An autopsy of the dead dog showed he was killed with a shovel or something like that, blunt force to the head. Maybe the city workers??? They city made a new law, no wolves in the city. Then Erin moved 60 miles from town and still has to have zoo fencing for these wolves. They now have 8. Every day one gets to come in their house for the night. These guys are so tall they can just eat off the counter. It was so strange for me to hear them, they don't bark, they howl. They just look like big dogs though. The black one in the way back, Phantom, was scared of us and never came close. It was sort of scary to be with them at first just because you knew they weren't dogs. But Baby made us feel better. She kept trying to get the strings off our coats or a scarf one of the other girls had in her pocket. Most of them are 100% wolf, but I think 2 are 99%. Not really sure what difference 1% makes though.
stacwase
09-18-2003, 12:40 PM
wolflady, I have also always heard that wolves were very shy. Maybe the ones in the Ashland area are more bold than others, but from what I hear they aren't that shy. They would never let anybody approach them, and as far as I know they've never approached people, but they run right through rural yards and are seen quite frequently near the highways. I don't know if the tales about them luring dogs away are true, though - I was just relaying the locals' attitudes toward them. I even stopped by a nearby DNR office to ask about them and they verified that they are, indeed, wolves! I was pretty sure they were because they were so much larger than any coyotes I had ever seen, and I knew they weren't dogs because of the shapes of their tails and the way they carried them.
While most of the wolves I've seen were alone, I did see a couple together. The husband of a girl I work with actually had the rare opportunity to watch a pack of them hunt down a deer, and my husband saw two of them stalking a deer.
It's so odd knowing that they're endangered, when we see so many of them!
stacwase
09-18-2003, 12:52 PM
Here's a little article about the wolves in Northern WI. http://www.northernwisconsin.com/wolfreport.htm
I have shared a few wolf stories in earlier posts, but there's one I don't think I've shared! If I have, please forgive me.
I frequently travel to a hospital in "Boondocks" (names have been changed, hehe), MI to work. It's a very remote little town deep in the North Woods. I could tell you stories about how remote this little town is!
Up here, many of the wolves are marked with radio collars to track their travel, habits, etc. (That's one of the ways I knew for sure I had seen a wolf - he was wearing a collar)
Anyways - I work closely with this Dr. who is also the medical examiner. His best friend was a helicopter pilot, and part of his job was to study these wolves with the radio collars on. I guess Dr. H. used to fly with him sometimes. I don't know what exactly he did - but he had to observe them from the air. About a year or so ago his helicopter crashed while he was studying the wolves. It took them a while (a day or two, I think) to find him. Since Dr. H. was the medical examiner, it was his responsibility to go to the scene and examine the body of his best friend. By the time they found him, he had been eviscerated by animals - though they didn't reveal which animals had been eating him.
Wild, huh? In addition to wolves and bears, we have a lot of bald eagles and other wildlife. Though local people have been reporting cougar sightings for years, it wasn't until last year that the DNR finally admitted to it.
wolfsoul
09-18-2003, 06:22 PM
I don't recall who, but someone here has a golden retriever/wolf cross...I believe her name is Gandy.
wolflady
09-18-2003, 06:23 PM
I may have to make a trip your way, stacwase! How wonderful it would be to see actual wild wolves as opposed to captive ones! I can imagine the people's attitudes about having them there. Are there any people that like having them there? I know I would be! :D They are truely amazing animals.
I know the people were throwing huge fits at the reintroduction in Yellostone:( It's so sad, because they (the wolves) were here before us. I just love the way they sound when they howl! Is it very wooded where you live? I bet it's beautiful there:)
tomkatzid, your friend's wolves and hybrids are beautiful! Are they sort of a rescue? I'm glad her 2 wolves weren't blamed for the death of the neighbor's dog and were able to go home. Unfortunately this sort of thing happens all to often and lots of people don't like having hybrids near them. I'm glad they were able to find some property outside of the city to keep them though:) Yes, with wolves and hybrids, you need very tall fences! Typically, fencing that goes a foot or two into the ground
is essential as wolves are good diggers too! :) Sounds like a neat family!
SeamusK
09-18-2003, 10:54 PM
19TH ITS BUCKS BIRTHDAY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUCK. i will be sure to get those pictures tomorrow =D
I Really find it amazing how when someone walks in my door, that. buck has not met yet.
He will be very timid, He'd hide under Tables when someone came in. AT Times people are very afraid of him, For instance when he plays with you he growls at you and grabs your hand and pulls you around the room..
I'd like to get some pics of Gandy if you can find some :-)
Buck Right now is sleeping in my lap.. He's a HUGE HUGE HUGE dog and hes in my lap, How silly... but hes sound asleep.. time to bring him to bed... Goodnight everyone
stacwase
09-19-2003, 10:09 AM
wolflady, I think the population is divided about the opinion on wolves. People who have livestock are the ones who get most upset about them. Generally, I think most people are happy that they're here! I'm not from here - I've only lived here about 8 years so I'm still an outsider! The people who live in this area are very attached to the forests and wildlife - and they do everything they can to prevent the people population from getting any bigger. They raise a huge raucus any time industry wants to do anything, and I think that's great. The economy stinks, as a result, and the poverty level is pretty high, but people are willing to make sacrifices to keep things just the way they are. Very few people stay in the area after they graduate from highschool, because there aren't any jobs. So the population is pretty old.
I don't know how many arguments my husband and I have had over the issue - he believes that the economy should be nurtured so that our kids will remain in the area. I think that no sacrifice is too great to keep the forests just the way they are, and that the economy can stay just the way it is. Kids can come back to visit!
When we first moved here I was absolutely shocked at the cold reception we received, and from what I hear that's the way it is for all newcomers. I guess that's the way it has to be, though. That's why the wildlife is thriving so well.
I wasn't here when the wolves were reintroduced but, before I moved here about 8 years ago, several were brought here. Obviously they've done very well. Yes - it is very heavily forested up here. If you look down at the area from a plane, it looks like just one big forest with a few small towns stuck in.
Gosh - sorry. I didn't realize how long I ranted on!
wolfsoul
09-19-2003, 12:20 PM
Gandy is boscibo's dog. :) I couldn't find any pics of her, but here she is in boscibo's signature.
http://home.attbi.com/~pattis_garden2/animal_banner3.jpg
Layka3000
09-19-2003, 02:31 PM
I wish I did but i dont! :(
SeamusK
09-19-2003, 07:45 PM
:( i cannot find the Camera, even if i did find it i couldnt upload pictures cause my mom brought her computer with her to work, And thats the computer with the Camera hookup :(
wolf_Q
09-19-2003, 10:41 PM
I've always loved wolves. I used to think I wanted a wolf hybrid, but I really don't think I do now. I think they are GORGEOUS of course, and if there was one that needed a home, it would be different...but I don't agree with people intentionally breeding them. I really think I'll just stick with siberian huskies. :D
tikeyas_mom
09-20-2003, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by tomkatzid
My friend Erin has several Wolves. But her's are Wolves, they are not mixed with dogs. They have to have zoo fencing to keep them. These pic's are about 8 yrs old, a little older 8 1/2.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/p5b7ae46c5ad25906704c655aa5733949/fc7e14e2.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pc080b667a87b231e53b31713e16dff7e/fc7e14e3.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/p09744ef81634b1151ae536c029404437/fc7e14e9.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/p9734892fc63814e0f02a4e78656a7ff3/fc7e14ed.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pcf5abd0d73c76fdc7eb7b52325c50310/fc7e14f2.jpg
thoughs dogs look like malamutes... I used to have a malamute with 1/8th of wolf in him..
tomkatzid
09-20-2003, 09:43 AM
In the pics they do look like dogs. But in person as soon as we got close to the fence you could tell, they were not dogs. I was scared at first. So were the 2 friends that went with me. The "Baby" seemed like a dog when she came to us. But maybe it was the howling that scared me, not sure, just a different feeling when we were in the enclosure with them. The black one in the way back was the most frightening to me.
I haven't talked with Erin for years so I'm not sure how many they have now. They were going to breed them. At that time it seemed OK to do. Now I don't agree with it at all. You cannot have any of these as pets within a number of miles of a city limit. They were not meant to be kept as pets. They are wild animals. But back then no one seemed to think of those things. And that was like only 8.5 yrs ago. A neighbor of theirs, 2 miles away kept BIG cats. He also had to have zoo fencing. Which at that time was a pen enclosed inside of another two 10 or 12 foot fences several feet apart and barbed wire slanted at the top. I think you can see it in some pics.
The BIG cat man was on the news not too long ago, people trying to take away a couple of his tigers. The story also mentioned that the "area" was home to several wolves .
SeamusK
09-20-2003, 12:52 PM
Wolf_Q, i'm seriously going to cry... lol.... i so SO SOOOO wish nebo was my dog, Shes sooo cute.. Especially the cute puppy pictures. err. i told my mom i wanted a husky... but she kept saying she didnt think it'd get along with jefe(our fat german shepherd lol..)
Seriously... Please don't hate me for this, But i got Buck from a breeder... about a year ago... (when he was bout 12 weeks old)
We were told by someone that getting it from the breeder(Only Wolf hybrids)Was better because they 1, Knew what to tell us when we asked how the wolf hybrids acted. 2. The breeders we went to also trained dogs so these puppies were a tiny bit trained before we got them.. and these people were pro. because they would train police dogs also.
EDIT:
By the way, That kinda scared me... i'm not sure if thats blood or what, but look at the Second picture, The wolf in the middle, It had something red on its neck..
8 years ago wow..
SeamusK
09-20-2003, 03:02 PM
UGH For some reason i dont like it when people freakin call my dog a mutt *sigh* i was in a pet chat room on aol and someone asked me if they could see my dog and they called buck an ugly mutt :'(
tomkatzid
09-20-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by SeamusK
i'm not sure if thats blood or what, but look at the Second picture, The wolf in the middle, It had something red on its neck..
8 years ago wow..
wow i see it too, i'll have to get the pic's out and look at them, i can't tell by the scanned one. i'll let you know.
tomkatzid
09-20-2003, 05:55 PM
i blew it up and it looks like some sort of scarf or collar or tie thing.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid80/pfe040fb1497afd330a423209216cbdcd/fb09410d.jpg
SeamusK
09-20-2003, 10:18 PM
AH. i See!
CountryWolf07
09-21-2003, 09:36 AM
Ditto! I absolutely adore wolves - - :)
Originally posted by wolf_Q
I've always loved wolves. I used to think I wanted a wolf hybrid, but I really don't think I do now. I think they are GORGEOUS of course, and if there was one that needed a home, it would be different...but I don't agree with people intentionally breeding them. I really think I'll just stick with siberian huskies. :D
CountryWolf07
09-21-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by CountryWolf07
Ditto! I absolutely adore wolves - - :) I also have a siberian husky! Her name is Anna. Here is her picture:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid48/p2edb7d1f227bb1f555f2dcc16a4cd63e/fcbbcf6b.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid20/pd03437a5b0fff2871ac13fd2072677e6/fdba4c74.jpg (with Rosie, our 2nd dog - she is a beagle. :) )
SeamusK
09-22-2003, 12:14 PM
beautiful.. :)..... jealusy.... :rolleyes:
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