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Kfamr
09-06-2003, 02:19 PM
I found this list on another board...
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Arm & Hammer (Church & Dwight)
P.O. Box 1625, Horsham, PA 19044-6625; 609-683-5900; 800-524-1328;
http://www.armhammer.com

*Bic Corporation
500 Bic Dr., Milford, CT 06460; 203-783-2000;
http://www.bicworld.com

Block Drug Co. (Carpet Fresh, Lava, Polident, Sensodyne, Tegrin)
257 Cornelison Ave., Jersey City, NJ 07302; 201-434-3000; 800-365-6500;
http://www.blockdrug.com

Boyle-Midway (Reckitt Benckiser)
2 Wickman Rd., Toronto, ON M8Z 5M5 Canada; 416-255-2300

*Braun (Gillette Company)
400 Unicorn Park Dr., Woburn, MA 01801; 800-272-8611;
http://www.braun.com

Chesebrough-Ponds (Fabergé, Ponds, Vaseline)
800 Sylvan Ave., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632; 800-243-5804

Church & Dwight (Arm & Hammer, Arrid, Lady's Choice, Nair, Pearl Drops)
P.O. Box 1625, Horsham, PA 19044-6625; 609-683-5900; 800-524-1328;
http://www.churchdwight.com

Clairol (Procter & Gamble)
40 W. 57th St., 23rd Fl., New York, NY 10019; 212-541-2740; 800-223-5800;
http://www.clairol.com

Clorox (ArmorAll, Formula 409, FreshStep, Glad, Pine-Sol, SoftScrub, S.O.S., Tilex)
1221 Broadway, Oakland, CA 94612; 510-271-7000; 800-227-1860;
http://www.clorox.com

Colgate-Palmolive Co. (Ajax, Fab, Hills Pet Nutrition, Mennen, Palmolive, SoftSoap, Speed Stick)
300 Park Ave., New York, NY 10022; 212-310-2000; 800-221-4607;
http://www.colgate.com

Coty (Adidas, Davidoff, JOOP!, Jovan, Lancaster, Rimmel, Stetson)
1325 Ave. of the Americas, 324th Fl., New York, NY 10019; 212-479-4300
http://www.coty.com

Cover Girl (Procter & Gamble)
One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 513-983-1100; 800-543-1745;
http://www.covergirl.com

Del Laboratories (Commerce Drug, Flame Glow, New York Color, Propa PH, Sally Hansen)
178 EAB Plz., Uniondale, NY 11556; 516-844-2020; 800-952-5080;
http://www.dellabs.com

Dial Corporation (Purex, Renuzit)
15101 N. Scottsdale Rd., Ste. 5028, Scottsdale, AZ 85254-2199; 800-528-0849;
http://www.dialcorp.com

Drackett Products Co. (S.C. Johnson & Son)
1525 Howe St., Racine, WI 53403; 414-631-2000; 800-558-5252;
http://www.scjohnsonwax.com

Erno Laszlo
3202 Queens Blvd., Long Island City, NY 11101; 718-729-4480;
http://www.ernolaszlo.com

*Gillette Co. (Braun, Duracell)
Prudential Tower Bldg., Boston, MA 02199; 617-421-7000; 800-872-7202;
http://www.gillette.com

Helene Curtis Industries (Finesse, Salon Selectives, Thermasilk, Unilever)
800 Sylvan Ave., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632; 800-621-2013;
http://www.helenecurtis.com

Johnson & Johnson (Aveeno, Clean & Clear, Neutrogena)
1 Johnson & Johnson Plz., New Brunswick, NJ 08933; 732-524-0400; 800-526-3967
http://www.jnj.com

Kimberly-Clark Corp. (Huggies, Kleenex, Kotex, Scott Paper)
P.O. Box 619100, Dallas, TX 75261-9100; 800-544-1847;
http://www.kimberly-clark.com

Lamaur (ColorSoft, PermaSoft)
P.O. Box 1221 Minneapolis, MN 55401-1221; 763-572-2883;
http://www.lamaur.com

Lever Bros. (Unilever)
800 Sylvan Ave., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632; 212-888-1260; 800-598-1223;
http://www.unilever.com

L'Oréal U.S.A.,
575 Fifth Ave., NewYork, NY 10017; 212-818-1500;
http://www.lorealcosmetics.com


Max Factor (Procter & Gamble)
One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 513-983-1100; 800-543-1745;
http://www.maxfactor.com

Mead
Courthouse Plaza N.E., Dayton, OH 45463; 937-495-3312;
http://www.mead.com

Melaleuca
3910 S. Yellowstone Hwy., Idaho Falls, ID 83402-6003; 208-522-0700;
http://www.melaleuca.com

Mennen Co. (Colgate-Palmolive)
E. Hanover Ave., Morristown, NJ 07962; 201-631-9000;
http://www.colgate.com


Neoteric Cosmetics
4880 Havana St., Denver, CO 80239-0019; 303-373-4860


Noxell (Procter & Gamble)
11050 York Rd., Hunt Valley, MD 21030-2098; 410-785-7300; 800-572-3232;
http://www.pg.com


Olay Co./Oil of Olay (Procter & Gamble)
P.O. Box 599, Cincinnati, OH 45201; 800-543-1745;
http://www.oilofolay.com


*Oral-B (Gillette Company)
600 Clipper Dr., Belmont, CA 94002-4119; 415-598-5000;
http://www.oralb.com


Pantene (Procter & Gamble)
One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 800-945-7768;
http://www.pantene.com

Pfizer (BenGay, Desitin, Listerene, Lubriderm, Plax, Schick, Visine)
235 E. 42nd St., New York, NY 10017-5755; 212-573-2323;
http://www.pfizer.com

Physique (Procter & Gamble)
One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 800-214-8957; http://www.physique.com

Playtex Products (Baby Magic, Banana Boat)
300 Nyala Farms Rd., Westport, CT 06880; 203-341-4000;
http://www.playtex.com

Procter & Gamble Co. (Clairol, Cover Girl, Crest, Giorgio, Iams, Max Factor, Physique, Tide)
One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 513-983-1100; 800-543-1745;
http://www.pg.com

Reckitt Benckiser (Coty, Lysol, Mop & Glo, Resolve, Spray 'N Wash, Woolite)
1655 Valley Rd., Wayne, NJ 07474-0943; 973-633-3600; 800-232-9665;
http://www.reckittbenckiser.com

Richardson-Vicks (Procter & Gamble)
One Procter & Gamble Plz., Cincinnati, OH 45202; 513-983-1100; 800-543-1745;
http://www.pg.com

Sally Hansen (Del Laboratories)
565 Broad Hollow Rd., Farmingdale, NY 11735; 516-293-7070; 800-645-9888;
http://www.sallyhansen.com

Schering-Plough (Bain de Soleil, Coppertone, Dr. Scholl's)
1 Giralda Farms, Madison, NJ 07940-1000; 201-822-7000; 800-842-4090;
http://www.sch-plough.com

Schick (Pfizer)
201 Tabor Rd., Morris Plains, NJ 07950; 201-540-2000; 800-492-1555;
http://www.pfizer.com

S.C. Johnson (Drano, Fantastik, Glade, Pledge, Shout, Windex, Ziploc)
1525 Howe St., Racine, WI 53403; 414-260-2000; 800-558-5252;
http://www.scjohnson.com

SoftSoap Enterprises (Colgate-Palmolive)
300 Park Ave., New York, NY 10022; 800-221-4607;
http://www.colgate.com

Suave (Unilever)
800 Sylvan Ave., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632; 212-888-1260; 800-782-8301;
http://www.suave.com

3M (Post-It, Scotch)
Center Bldg., 220-2E-02, St. Paul, MN 55144-1000; 612-733-1110; 800-364-3577;
http://www.3m.com

Unilever (Calvin Klein, Diversey, Helene Curtis, Lever Bros., Mentadent, Suave)
800 Sylvan Ave., Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632; 212-888-1260; 800-598-1223;
http://www.unilever.com

Vidal Sassoon (Procter & Gamble)
P.O. Box 599, Cincinnati, OH 45201; 800-543-7270;
http://www.pg.com

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Then Someone asked "Would you rather them test on Humans?"

My response:
YES. Animals were here first. An animals life is just as important as a human's life. I'm pretty damn sure a dog, monkey, rat or cat don't need clorox, pinesol or any other of those foolish company's products.

We humans do. So, Humans should test them.

If a company thinks their product is unsafe to the point where they have to test it on an animal then it SHOULD NOT go out on the market.


What Do you think? Feel free to contact any of these companies and refuse to use their products until they stop tsting on animals.

wolfsoul
09-06-2003, 02:26 PM
Thanks for the heads up! I'll be emailing some of the companies. I hope other people here do too...That way it won't just be acouple people and they won't stop to think.

I was thinking about using neutrogena -- guess I won't be doing that anymore. Johnson's and Johnson's is crap anyways -- A baby drank some baby oil by them and almost died. Now he's deformed and has mental problems. Playtex sucks too! lol. My mom buys arm and hammer. :eek: Finally a good reason to make her stop -- she uses that smelly stuff you put on the carpets and I think it just smells terrible!!

Desert Arabian
09-06-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by wolfsoul
Johnson's and Johnson's is crap anyways -- A baby drank some baby oil by them and almost died. Now he's deformed and has mental problems.

Don't buy that at all. Can you please support this statement with evidence? Surely there should be some if this truly happened, because the parents would have sued the company. And it would have been on the news nationwide. I don't buy this one bit- yeah, like the company would make harmful baby products. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

He wouldn't be deformed from poisoning either...

Desert Arabian
09-06-2003, 02:44 PM
Anoter thing, if that event really did happen, it is not the companies fault, it's the dumb parents who left the bottle in reach of a small child. If the parents were smart it would be locked up or placed up high. It's not like the company president filled up a bottle and said "here, drink this kiddo."

No matter how hard people try, there is no way to make everything baby/kid safe in this world, it's impossible.

wolfsoul
09-06-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
Don't buy that at all. Can you please support this statement with evidence? Surely there should be some if this truly happened, because the parents would have sued the company. And it would have been on the news nationwide. I don't buy this one bit- yeah, like the company would make harmful baby products. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

He wouldn't be deformed from poisoning either...

It was on Oprah, so no I don't have any websites that will tell you about it but feel free to do a search. And he was deformed because he was a newborn baby, having his first bath. He drank the water in the bath tub. The oil did something to the way his body grows or something. They showed his twin brother and him, who had looked very much the same at birth, and the brother was good and tall and healthy, and the one who drank the oil was very small and wouldn't grow anymore, and his skin was wrinkly all over. It stunted his growth or something. I can't really remember to well, it was so long ago, but I'll ask my mom when she gets home, she'll know.

wolfsoul
09-06-2003, 03:33 PM
Ok I just asked my mom. She said that he wasn't a newborn like I thought I'd remembered, he was 18 months old. They DID sue the company, but because this was in the 80's they weren't able to get rid of the product like you would be able to nowadays. She said that the oil made him physically and mentally disabled. She said it stunted his growth, so his bones were very thin and fragile. And she said it was not Oprah, but another talk show that she can't remember. He was 8 years old on the show, but he was the size of a toddler.

iceyshiver21
09-06-2003, 05:54 PM
Thanks!! Now I got more products to aviod. I always try to make sure that I check to see wether or not it says on the back of the bottles. Anybody know of companys that dont test on animals? Isn't Bonbell one?

Aspen and Misty
09-06-2003, 06:28 PM
:eek: :eek: I use Aveno :eek: :eek:

GUess I'm looking for a new product now!

Ash

Kater
09-06-2003, 06:34 PM
The list Kay posted is originally from this site: http://www.peta.org/mall/cc/cctest.html

If you intend to buy 'cruelty-free' you should bookmark PETA's site as it is updated *at least* yearly.

Also helpful is the "Companies That Don't Test" list located here:
http://www.peta.org/mall/cc/ccdonttest1.html

zippy-kat
09-06-2003, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Kater


Also helpful is the "Companies That Don't Test" list located here:
http://www.peta.org/mall/cc/ccdonttest1.html

Becareful in using that list...

Bath and BodyWorks appears on the link above however if you read the label on their product, it states, "THIS FINISHED PRODUCT NOT TESTED ON ANIMALS."

I love the Tom's of Maine and the St. Ives products!!

Kater
09-06-2003, 09:16 PM
Good to know, thanks Zippy! I've never used B&BW before-- it's not very popular in Hawai'i. Also I'm afraid of smelling too strong or fruity --- bees might attack me! LOL
Hey-- it's happened before!!! ;)

Karen
09-06-2003, 09:22 PM
I take most information from PETA with a grain of salt. I do check labels for any shampoo, etc. that I buy, and make sure it states that it's not tested on animals.

I wouldn't mind them "testing" by giving a dog or a bunny a bath, but Miss Hoppy would object! I have (absurdly) sensitive skin, don't ever wear make-up, and simply don't believe in pain for beauty's sake - mine, an animal's or anyone else's!

Kater
09-06-2003, 09:29 PM
You're more apt to believe a label that a company puts there itself than a group with OBVIOUS motivation to truly find out who is testing on animals? I can understand taking OTHER PETA information "with a grain of salt" but in this case I think they are the ultimate resource!

Labels can be very sneaky and some companies can say "against animal testing" (that's kind of vague, so did you test this product on animals or not?) or "not tested on animals" and still buy ingredients or components that OTHER companies test on animals.

Not trying to be rude, I just fail to see your logic here.

lizbud
09-06-2003, 09:33 PM
When I first learned about the extent of animal testing that
went on & specifically, what it involved for the animal's used,
I printed out the list of companies that use animal testing &
made a concious effort to avoid buying their products,I had to
stop using my favorite shampoo(Pantene Pro-V). Hey, Alberto
VO 5 is just as good and isn't tested on animals.

Kfamr
09-06-2003, 09:46 PM
I like VO5! Their shampoos and conditioners smell good!

Soledad
09-07-2003, 02:56 AM
SO many companies use animal testing. It's so sad and frustrating. I think that we have safely come to a point in science where we do not need to be testing products as basic as cosmetics and cleaners. Isn't that knowledge pretty much already out there? What other cleaning/beauty frontiers need to be conquered these days??!!:rolleyes:

I find that the cosmetics and hair products not tested on animals are generally superior products as they tend to rely on natural ingredients. I highly recommend Biolage. It's the best shampoo/conditioner I've ever used.

Kfamr
09-07-2003, 02:59 AM
Is Biolage shampoo and con. into one?

None of those ever work for me. The two in one crap ALWAYS makes my hair so tangled.

Soledad
09-07-2003, 03:02 AM
No, it's not a 2-in-1. I use the hydrating shampoo and the conditioning balm. It makes my hair like silk. You can find it at salons.

I also use MAC and Bobbi Brown makeup, both are excellent!! Kiehl's also has some amazing products out there.

Kfamr
09-07-2003, 03:14 AM
Eeep.. Salon stuff is normally way too expensive. I like Fantasic Sam's shampoos and conditioner. They works really well on my hair. It's hard to find things that do since it's so long.

Desert Arabian
09-07-2003, 11:42 AM
I use Biolage too, and I like it a lot. I also use the conditioning balm, and it makes my hair so soft it feels like I am touching air- sorta like it's not even there. At the salon by my house they charge $10.00 a bottle.

Tonya
09-07-2003, 11:52 AM
Jeepers! I didn't realize that so many large companies are still using animals!!! :eek: Looks like I won't be buying anything for a while!

wolfsoul
09-07-2003, 12:36 PM
I recommend Mary Kay products. They were the very first makeup/ styling/ cleaning products company to start the march against animal testing.

veegan
09-07-2003, 01:11 PM
thats right, mary kay rocks. i think all or at least most of their products dont have animal ingredients in addition to not testing. I forget where I heard that thoguh.. too bad I dont have anyone to sell me mary kay stuff! avon doesnt test either.

yeah its pretty easy to get stuff that doesnt test and doesnt have animal ingredients. i just shop in the "natural" section of the grocery store. fred meyer is awesome, a lot of QFCs have a good selection and of course Trader Joes, PCC, (dunno where all PCC has stores or if its only in WA) and stores like that that have mostly organic/natural type products. I usually get Jason, Toms of Maine, Shikai or Kiss My Face products. Im actually recently leaning away from Toms of Maine because they use bees wax in a lot of their stuff. But they are a good company still.

And just a side note, you really gotta look at the COMPANY that produces the products and see if they test or not, because Herbal Essences says they dont test or have animal ingredients, BUT they are owned by Proctor & Gamble, one of the BIGGEST (actually i think they are the biggest in the US) companies that tests on animals!!! So, its very deceiving!!

I know PETA produces a cool little pocket-sized packet that lists all the good and bad companies that you can carry around with you in your purse or wallet or pocket or whatev.

As for other products, like office supplies, just a few off the top of my head: Mead tests, as does Bic, but Sanford does NOT, and they make Sharpies, & Papermate. I think they make Hi Liter too, and I dont think Pilot tests either. I always just buy Sanford products though. :) I LOVE papermate pens the best anyway!

lovemyshiba
09-07-2003, 04:57 PM
Thanks for posting this KayAnn--I've been meaning to do a search on it for a while now--what an informative list--unfortunately, I will have to make some adjustments to my shopping list:( I am most disappointed with Arm & Hammer--I use all of their pet stain or deodorizing products--guess I'll have to find something else!!

Thanks to you too, Kate, for posting the link to the reverse side of it--I'm going to print it out and make my next shopping list accordingly.

ScantyNebula
09-07-2003, 05:01 PM
Here is the baby oil link : http://www.nbc4columbus.com/News/1475132/detail.html I watched it on Oprah a while back ... so sad ..

ScantyNebula
09-07-2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
I don't buy this one bit- yeah, like the company would make harmful baby products. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Never be surprised of the kinds of things that can happen in this world ...

ScantyNebula
09-07-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
Anoter thing, if that event really did happen, it is not the companies fault, it's the dumb parents who left the bottle in reach of a small child. If the parents were smart it would be locked up or placed up high. It's not like the company president filled up a bottle and said "here, drink this kiddo."


Seriously now, WHO EVER THOUGHT that you would have to lock BABY OIL away from your baby? It IS the companies fault because a product so widely used around babies should be 100% safe - even if consumed! Not kill them!

wolfsoul
09-07-2003, 06:20 PM
Thanks for posting that link Scantynebula. :)

It is the company's fault -- if it said poisonous or dangerous on the bottle, then I'd store it with the rubbing alcohol and hydrogen peroxide -- Or beter yet, not use it. Think about the babies that slurp it all up with the bath water.

veegan
09-07-2003, 06:43 PM
"I use all of their pet stain or deodorizing products--guess I'll have to find something else!"

lovemyshiba- I just bought Nature's Miracle. Its all natural so its safe around pets, and its supposed to be amazing. Or so I hear! lol I havent used it yet, but I was just about to go clean the bun's litter box with it! My cat Felicity, she has some weird thing, I think some kind of digestive prob, (its a long story), but anyway, she will vomit several times in a row peridoically, so cleaning that off carpets is a regular thing, so next time she does it I'll let you know how this Natures Miracle works. lol The bottle claims it removes stain and odor 100% so.. we'll see!

Has anyone else on PT used it?

Barbara
09-09-2003, 03:20 AM
Is there Body Shop in the US? They have great stuff (like my yummy melon shower splash ;)), not tested on animals, some substances from fair trade and not too expensive.

In addition I think cosmetic substances should of course be tested on humans. One of the many problems with testing on animals is that it is not even sure whether it will be really ok for humans to use the stuff.

Desert Arabian
09-09-2003, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by ScantyNebula
Seriously now, WHO EVER THOUGHT that you would have to lock BABY OIL away from your baby? It IS the companies fault because a product so widely used around babies should be 100% safe - even if consumed! Not kill them!

You should try to lock away/keep out of reach EVERYTHING and ANYTHING, even if it is kid safe. Let's say the oil was kid-safe (digestion wise), the kid could have opened it up and some of it could have spilled on the floor, the kid not realizing it could slip and fall and smack their head....or the baby could play around with the bottle and get it all over the place, would you want to clean it up? Or another point of view, the object may be kid safe, but it may not be animal safe, what if you have pets in the house? It's just common sense and an extra safe move to try and keep everything out of the baby/toddlers reach.

veegan
09-09-2003, 07:27 PM
yeah we have the body shop. its pretty cool. i love that they have no animal testing and fair trade and i think all or most of their stuff doesnt have animal ingredients either. theres signs on the wall at their store that list all those kinds of things that they do/dont do (like the testing, fair trade, etc). i havent purchased anything from them before, but I did ask for an application a while back. haha

lovemyshiba
09-26-2003, 01:50 PM
I just recieved a mailing from PETA today, with a questionairre to fill out about animal testing, some return address labels (I have soooo many of those), and an informative letter about animal testing.
I don't know if I should send a donation or not--I always donate to the ASPCA, but it is different.

Anyone ever donate to PETA??

veegan
09-26-2003, 04:51 PM
haha i got that today too! lol did you get the nickle too? lol yeah ive been meaning to donate to peta for a while now, i tihnk im going to this time. theres a cool thing about peta's donations, you can (at least on their website) select which program you want your donation money to go towards. so lets say you maybe dont want to support the vegetarian campaign, but you want to help abused aniamls, you can choose your money to go to the animal cruety investigation campaign. i always that that was a pretty cool option.

and i got a donation thing & address labels a coupel days ago from the ASPCA. lol

wolfsoul
09-26-2003, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
You should try to lock away/keep out of reach EVERYTHING and ANYTHING, even if it is kid safe. Let's say the oil was kid-safe (digestion wise), the kid could have opened it up and some of it could have spilled on the floor, the kid not realizing it could slip and fall and smack their head....or the baby could play around with the bottle and get it all over the place, would you want to clean it up? Or another point of view, the object may be kid safe, but it may not be animal safe, what if you have pets in the house? It's just common sense and an extra safe move to try and keep everything out of the baby/toddlers reach.
Most people don't think about certain things, so let's not generalize and say it's all common sense. Who would think to keep toys out of a child's reach?