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AdoreMyDogs
08-02-2003, 09:06 AM
This is a courtsey to the "good ones", my friends, of Pet Talk that I will be taking a break for awhile. I considered quitting all together, but sometimes things improve, especially since all the kiddies will be in school soon.

This is not a plea for attention, that's not why I am annoucing my departing, it's simply as a courtesy, as I said before. The 'good' ones, and you know who you are, in case I can't bring myself to come back, best of everything to you. I have enjoyed being a part of this community and gaining new friendships. I do wish that it were different at PT, but the truth is, I don't enjoy it any longer. True there are some wonderful people, but the bad is starting to outweigh the good and coming on here and reading all these lies/deceptions and all the immature kids has worn me out. It's time for me to move on. There may be a day when PT is different, similar to how it was before all the newbies showed up with their lies, but only time will tell.

Karen and Paul, I have enjoyed these few years as a member of PT and I am greatful to you for creating this site. I have met some, hopefully, life-long friendships and had some unforgetable experiences.

Peace and love to my friends here at PT.

-Leslie

P.S., if you want my AIM handle to chat on AIM, please send me an email.

ChloeLove
08-02-2003, 09:12 AM
I am sorry that you think that way about PT. I hate to admit it...but it is becoming true. (yeah, I know this is coming from someone who is relatively new and one of the younger members ;)) I hope that you decide to come back soon, but if you don't, best of luck to you.
-Amanda

Kfamr
08-02-2003, 09:34 AM
Leslie!! :( :(

I don't like how you said it would improve when the "kiddies" go back to school but I certainly will miss you. I enjoyed meeting you, Graham and Kersey alot in Ohio. I'm really glad I got to meet Graham, since he's my favorite PT buddy. I hope I'm one of your "friends" or the "good ones"! ;)

In the past few weeks or so... leaving has came across my mind as well.

I hope to see you in AIM chats.

lovemyshiba
08-02-2003, 09:39 AM
I'm sorry to see you go Leslie, but lets hope things improve soon, so you can come back.
I understand how you feel, and while I've only been a member for 9 or 10 months, I have seen this board deteriorate a lot.

Thanks for letting us know, so no one worries about you!!!!

I look forward to your return, and hearing more about Graham, Kersey, and the kitties.

Karen
08-02-2003, 09:43 AM
But Leslie - will you be at the next Pet Talk meet in Findley? Please? Huh? Huh? And Graham and Kersey? Huh?

We love you, take some time and find some peace.

Crikit
08-02-2003, 09:48 AM
I'm sad to see you go Leslie. I do however hope that in time you will come back to us and shower us with pics of the puppers and kitties. Till then hope to see you in the chats.

anna_66
08-02-2003, 09:50 AM
You will be missed by me as well dear friend:)

But as Karen has said

But Leslie - will you be at the next Pet Talk meet in Findley? Please? Huh? Huh? And Graham and Kersey? Huh?

:D :D

Pam
08-02-2003, 10:28 AM
Leslie I for one will certainly miss you, especially now that you have your newest furbaby and we won't get to watch her grow. I understand your disappointment of late and agree that Pet Talk has gone through some changes lately, mostly not very good. I have used the "ignore" feature here and it works for me. Maybe when you have had some R & R time and come back, you could try it too. Lots of hugs and good wishes to you and your gang!

lizbud
08-02-2003, 10:53 AM
Leslie,

I understand completely.:( I too have cut back considerably
from what I used to post or read on PT. I agree COMPLETELY
with EVERTHING you said in your post.(except for the AIM thing,
as I've never checked it out) I know & understand thal ALL things
change over time & change can be good or change can be a
negative thing. I used to feel a special closeness within this
community & really loved sharing stories about my pets & reading
other's experiences with their pets. Not any more. I really feel
"why bother" as most (not all) of the younger immature ones
could care less. All they want to do is turn this forum into a huge
"chat room" filled with everything but pets. I will pm you with my
e-mail addy should you ever want to share ideas or pet news
or just to say howdy once in a while. Take care & hugs to your
fur gang. :) Liz , Smokey & Kitties.

aly
08-02-2003, 11:10 AM
Leslie -

I wish you weren't leaving but I do respect your decision. I hope to continue to talk to you on AIM :)

Hopefully things will improve enough for you to come back here too!

KYS
08-02-2003, 11:56 AM
leslie,
I am heart broken that you are leaving.
Not that many old timers left anymore.
I wish their was something Karen and Paul could
do to make this board a bit more hoax proof,
like limiting user names per e-mail addy or PC might
help a bit.
I hope you will just take a breather and come
back real soon. Their are still so many
wonderful people on this web site of all ages.
Hugs Karen

LoudLou
08-02-2003, 12:04 PM
Leslie~

You and that BEE-YOO-TEE-FULL fur family will be missed terribly... However, I totally understand. Hopefully you will drop in from time to time just to say "Hi" the "Good Ones" that still exist?

shais_mom
08-02-2003, 12:37 PM
Hope to see you in Chat.
give the furbabes hugs from me.

jackiesdaisy1935
08-02-2003, 01:07 PM
Leslie, I completely understand your thinking in this, I have also drifted away. Although I like to talk about other things, my main interest is my dogs, getting to know other people's pets, pictures of their pets, and discuss problems with other people about our pets.
I know this will not be popular, but many of the young people are very mature, for instance Kfamr, but so many of them are so silly it's boring to read the posts, I understand I don't have to read the posts, but there are so many of them. I have a msn group and Kfamr was a member in excellent standing, an Ass't manager found out she was not 18 and they deleted her, but there was nothing I could do because it was part of our rules.

I enjoy talking to the young people like Kfamr, she so loves her pups and can talk about them all day, lol. We had quite a few other young people who were true animal lovers like Daisy's Mom.
I think it has evolved into more of a chat venue than what it was meant to be, let's hope that it goes back to the original or close to
"Pet Talk".
Leslie, I do hope you come back and check once in a while, I do, and when I have the time I try to post in Dog of the Day.
Lots of hugs to the Pups
Jackie

sasvermont
08-02-2003, 02:12 PM
I certainly understand your concern and lack of interest in the Pet Talk situation. This place has gone down hill and mostly because of the troubled folks who end up posting randomly to fill up the time of day. I have found myself posting less and less and putting more and more of the members on my "ignore" list. Sad, but true.

I hope that Karen and Paul can find a way to limit the number of postings and or topic creating by any one person on any given day....that might help a bit. Short of just asking someone to leave, I don't know how else this forum can be regulated.

I enjoy hearing about everyone's pets, by reading complete sentences and thoughts and not having to spend hours trying to decipher jibberish.

Maybe this Jessica thing had just taken the thunder out of all of us. I know it has certainly made me wonder about what people consider to be "friendships" and their willingness to accept chit chat as the makings of a friend. Friends don't treat each other the way Jessica treated anyone and everyone here.

I think Jessica's situation and event shook all of our beliefs.

I will sit back today and give this topic a real thorough looking at...... Maybe we should let the morons take over and find an adult like place for the rest of us. Maybe that comment is too cruel. That is how I am feeling.....sorry.

Sallyanne

I Love Brian, Forever <3
08-02-2003, 02:31 PM
C-ya.

Pam
08-02-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by I Love Brian, Forever <3
C-ya.

That is the kind of comment that makes people want to leave. The "Pet Talk of Old" didn't have people who would post such a careless comment. Time to add another name to the ignore list. :rolleyes:

micki76
08-02-2003, 02:35 PM
I'm personally getting tired of hearing about how horrible the young posters are! Folks, it seems y'all are taking your frustrations out on the teens because of what one teen (?) has done. I'll be honest, sometimes they get on my nerves, too. But you can't discount the fact that they love their pets as much as you do and want to be here to discuss them. There are many youngsters here that I value and would hate to see leave. There are others (of all ages) that I'd rather not interact with. I simply avoid those people. If you don't want to read the posts that have nothing to do with pets, then don't come to General or the Doghouse.

I don't think many adults are acting very adult either. BTW - I'm 35.

Sasvermont - You're right, your comment was cruel. Calling the young posters morons makes me question your maturity level.

binka_nugget
08-02-2003, 02:47 PM
I'm still a newbie but I've seen bad times and good times already. I've made some wonderful friends and am thankful for that.

I hope you'll decide to come back one day, we'll miss you and the kids.:(

And micki, I agree with you. It seems like so many people dislike the teens and yes I'll admit there are a few that I try to avoid but it has nothing to do with age but the person/posts itself. There are many teens that I admire especially Kfamr (hope you don't mind me mentioning you kayann :D). She is probably the most mature teen I've ever run across. There are many more teens here that I find mature. Pet talk wouldn't be the same without them. Anyways, I don't want this to turn into a debate so I'll close by saying, we'll miss you and the kids dearly.

wolfsoul
08-02-2003, 02:55 PM
I can understand your wanting to leave. It is a heartbreaking thing for everyone what happened here. :( Everyone will be sad that you have left. I will miss hearing about your furbabies.

However, I am also very offended that people seem to be taking this out on the teenagers of Pet Talk. Wasn't everybody a teenager at one point? Don't they know how it feels to be bashed by a statement? One that tells us that we are really "children" and not young adults? I am almost 16 years old. Yes, a teenager. And no, I don't think in any way, that I have caused this certain commotion, nor any others in the past.

Jordan

Pam
08-02-2003, 03:00 PM
Wolfsoul I think that all teenagers are being given a bad rap for the actions of a few. I was surprised when I found out that many of the teens here were, in fact, teens. Some of you (including yourself) are very mature and have interesting things to say. I think what is bothering us "older folks" is the rudeness that some of the teens have shown to others and in some instances to each other. Age is not the issue here in my opinion but maturity. As others have said, KayAnn is young but also very mature. There are others like her too. Hope that helps. :)

wolfsoul
08-02-2003, 03:13 PM
:)

Rachel
08-02-2003, 03:14 PM
Leslie, I don't post much anymore either, mostly because Pet Talk has become too big. We used to be able to get to know everybody on the board and keep up with what is happening with their fur kids. Now that is impossible. It is a similar shock as it would be to move from a small town to a large city. It's not that I don't enjoy meeting new people, I do, but it's impossible to get to know everybody. Most people here don't know who I am either. Sometimes I feel like a lost soul just wondering around among a group of strangers.

Pet Talk brought me one of my greatest joys and that was getting to know you and to meet you and Graham in the flesh. I hate to think of not being able to read your posts and keep up with what is happening with your furkids. :(

carole
08-02-2003, 03:21 PM
I have to say I also have been pleasantly suprised to find some threads are written by young folks, there are some very intelligent, mature young individuals on pet -talk, and yes we were all young once, so need to keep that in mind I think.

I think everyone has a contribution to make here, be it big or small in one way or another, and it is only a very small minority who don't.

Sorry that you are leaving, hope you find that you can come back soon, as I am sure you will be missed very much.

Cataholic
08-02-2003, 04:17 PM
Leslie, the thing that bothers me about you leaving is the reason behind it. While you are entitled to do what you wish, it has ramifications. By leaving, you are one less person to 'fight' for what PT is/was. By leaving, you are one more voice of reason gone. By leaving, you are one more validation that PT has changed. That stinks. While I know not everyone has the same level of comfort with confrontation that I have, you leave those of us behind to do the job alone. Without you. And, yes, that is a choice you make, and maybe you feel that it isn't your job to help bring it around to something fun, loving, exciting, and nice again, I disagree. PT is for/about us. Karen has said so many times. WE are what makes PT. If you don't like what it is, help change it.

Those that stand for nothing, fall for everything. I hope you will reconsider your decision, and help make things better.

KYS
08-02-2003, 06:06 PM
posted by Cataholic: By leaving, you are one less person to 'fight' for what PT is/was. By leaving, you are one more voice of reason gone. By leaving, you are one more validation that PT has changed. >>>>>>>

I was thinking the same thing. If you and others leave, because
of a few bad apples, than they have won. :(

As for young vs old. We all make up our beloved Pet Talk
and in my opinion one of the best detectives on
finding out bad apples is KayAnn. :)

I Love Brian, Forever <3
08-02-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Pam
That is the kind of comment that makes people want to leave. The "Pet Talk of Old" didn't have people who would post such a careless comment. Time to add another name to the ignore list. :rolleyes:

lol, it's not like I can convince her otherwise. I'm just saying goodbye to her. lol. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Karen
08-02-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by I Love Brian, Forever <3
lol, it's not like I can convince her otherwise. I'm just saying goodbye to her. lol. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

But that kind of post leads to a good point - if you are going to post something that slight, why not just PM her?

Always THINK before you post, type it, read it and think about it fopr a minute before you post anything - see if it will have meaning for more than one person, if not, PM it!

Kfamr
08-02-2003, 07:05 PM
Thanks veryone for mentioning me as one of the "mature" ones. I have my *immature* times though.


Leslie,
I really hope you decide to come back. Pet Talk wouldn't be the same without you and your crew. Every one of your babies is so special to me and I really enjoy hearing about them. I'm so happy I finally got to meet you and my favorite boy. I hope to meet uour kitties one day!

Aspen and Misty
08-02-2003, 07:28 PM
I'm sorry to see you go. Hopefully pet talk will be back to the same old pet talk soon.

::sigh:: This thread definitly makes me sad, seeing one of the long time members leave and to find out that some people aren't as happy to have me here as I'm happy to be here.I also want to apoligize for bothering anyone, I didn't mean to, honestly.


Ash

wolfsoul
08-02-2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Aspen and Misty

::sigh:: This thread definitly makes me sad, seeing one of the long time members leave and to find out that some people aren't as happy to have me here as I'm happy to be here.I also want to apoligize for bothering anyone, I didn't mean to, honestly.


I'm happy to have you here!!! :D

Then again, I'm also a teenager :rolleyes:

iceyshiver21
08-02-2003, 08:34 PM
I'm sorry to here that it's not as fun as it used to be. I hope that I didn't do anything in the past towards you or anyone else, that I am unaware of. Sorry to hear that you are going but come back soon!!

Miss Meow
08-03-2003, 12:29 AM
Leslie, I understand your sentiments and hope that one day you can come back and say hello. I have enjoyed your company here and adored the stories and pictures of your pets along the way.

N

IttyBittyKitty
08-03-2003, 02:05 AM
Leslie,

I don't really know you very well, but it is sad to see Pet Talkers leaving because they feel that the general standard of the board has slipped. I too, have seen the standards slip in the short time that I have been kickin' around!

I do hope that you will return as everyone will be missing your furkids!

It was good of you to let everyone know what you are doing so as to avoid any further hoaxes ....

Good luck! And hopefully see you soon!

Tamara

P.S ... I think that many of the teenagers on this board such as Kfamr, Wolfsoul and many others make a great contribution to this board and to society in general. Adults, stop condemning and judging teenagers and encourage them to be good people who love their pets and are model members of society!

delidog
08-03-2003, 07:55 AM
Leslie,
I am sorry to see yourself,Graham,Kersey and Minion leave P.T.
though I do understand your position....

I have laughed and cried with you and your pets...(bringing Kersey home,When Dear Graham Broke his leg due to your Super!!:mad: )

I do hope that you'll take a Break...and come back....but if not...Please know that We care!!!!!

Hugs and Treats!!!!
Nicole

mugsy
08-03-2003, 08:36 AM
Johanna, you said that very eloquently! I agree.

As for teens v. non teens....it depends on the teen. Teens are just like everyone else. There are good and bad. There is one teen here that makes my bile rise, but then there are lots of others that are incredibly sweet and loving. Maybe it's the teacher in me that enjoys some of that stuff, but, sometimes it gets old and we intolerant "oldsters" need to take a step back. DANG it's depressing to be 41 and be an oldster!:p

Anyway, that being said, Leslie, I left for awhile too and eventually I was called back. I hope that is the case for you too.

CamCamPup33
08-03-2003, 09:17 AM
Teenagers shouldnt be the ones who are blamed for all of this.. ONE very immature teenager did a stupid act that made people mad, doesnt mean they are all immature.. Sorry to hear that you have to leave because of this, yeah the lying is getting a little old, but im putting up with it because i know thats not me, nor my friends on here who are doing that.. and, because its the place i love to be.. So Teens have just an equal right to be here as adults.. i have a teen that i ignore on here because well she really happens to annoy me.. (a little out of the blue there sorry) If some teens choose to be immature then ignore them.. You cant do anything about them so thats why im staying.. Ill just ignore them and make sure im not talking to them.. So this isnt all the teens fault seeings that im a teen too i dont like being accused of being immature.. sorry had to voice my opionion..

shais_mom
08-03-2003, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by I Love Brian, Forever <3
C-ya.

What you don't realize by callousing posting this is Leslie is a very sensitive person and this "comment" probably hurt her feelings immensely. She was absolutely devasted when someone rated her thread on her cat Minion being sick a one. And no amount of re-rating could make up for that.
I seem to remember a time when you were leaving, not just PetTalk but I believe your home, now did anyone come on there and basically say "Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya" ?? Not that I am aware of, and by posting it this way, that is in essense what you are saying.

Kfamr
08-03-2003, 09:31 AM
Well said, Staci.

CamCamPup33
08-03-2003, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by shais_mom
What you don't realize by callousing posting this is Leslie is a very sensitive person and this "comment" probably hurt her feelings immensely. She was absolutely devasted when someone rated her thread on her cat Minion being sick a one. And no amount of re-rating could make up for that.
I seem to remember a time when you were leaving, not just PetTalk but I believe your home, now did anyone come on there and basically say "Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya" ?? Not that I am aware of, and by posting it this way, that is in essense what you are saying.

i agree... even if she was just saying it because she quote " its not like i can convince her otherwise.." unquote you still dont say that.. and of course it follows by :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: a lot of those.. :D (kay)

Kfamr
08-03-2003, 12:58 PM
LOL Amber!! :p :D

wolfsoul
08-03-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by shais_mom
What you don't realize by callousing posting this is Leslie is a very sensitive person and this "comment" probably hurt her feelings immensely. She was absolutely devasted when someone rated her thread on her cat Minion being sick a one. And no amount of re-rating could make up for that.

Sorry to be a little irrelevant, but how can you tell if it's a good rating or a bad rating? I've always wondered....



Thanks Ittybittykitty for mentioning me :)

Kfamr
08-03-2003, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by wolfsoul
Sorry to be a little irrelevant, but how can you tell if it's a good rating or a bad rating? I've always wondered....



When replying to a thread you can chose to rate it where it says "Rate this Thread: Select a rating (optional)" 1 being the worst, 5 being the bst.

tatsxxx11
08-03-2003, 03:00 PM
We love you, Leslie...you and Dan and our BELOVED Super Graham and Kersey and Minion and Mindy. You were a "founding memeber" of the Pet Talk family almost 3 yrs. ago; perhaps some aren't aware of that. And perhaps some aren't aware of how much you mean to us. I'd like to those who may not you, a bit about our dear friend Leslie and just what she and her family has meant to us.

We all cried our eyes out the day our precious Graham fell from the apartment balcony, shattered his leg and became permanently disabled. And we sent you our strength, love and prayers as you endured a mother's agony, watching Graham struggle through his rehab. and attempts to return to agility:( (Remember when he was a TV star???:D

We cheered and congratulated you when you bought your first home...(superintendent free;)!)
You welcomed dear Kersey into your home and we were behind you all the way as you struggled through those first rough weeks. And then there were the ups and downs, heartbreaks and smiles you experienced with the precious fosters and of course, Minion's illness and the adoption of adorable Mindy.

Wow, that was a run on sentence; no that was my heart pouring out it's love for you and your family. Now, you know what you mean to us!! So take a breath, take a break and hurry back. Noting else is acceptable!;) Love you. Sandra, Cody, Star, Oliver, Mr. B and Moon:)