View Full Version : Puppymill Rescue...Refresher course
tatsxxx11
07-14-2003, 08:20 PM
We haven't had a discussion about puppymills in a while. I came across this recent "undercover" video documentary by PETA. I know that PETA evokes a variety of sentiments, some very positive, some negative. But whatever your feelings re: PETA may be, there is no denying the truth as depicted in this recent documentary narrated by Charlize Theron. It is not pleasant to watch. Many of us are already all too familiar with the horrors of these dog factories!!!!!!!:( But, if you are one who is unfamiliar with the horrors and autrocities that these hell holes perpetuate, PLEASE, have the courage to watch the following video. Then please, spread the word. And as hard as I know, God I know, how hard it is to resist rescuing these dogs from mall pet stores, please, don't. If these monsters have no demand for their dogs, they have no recourse but to shut down. NO PROFIT!! And be on the look out for pending legislation/petitions in your area, promoting the licensing and inspeciton of these so called breeding facilites. THIS IS A GRAPHIC VIDEO
The horror that is the puppymill.... (http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=charlize-theron-pupply-mill)
CamCamPup33
07-14-2003, 08:44 PM
my stupid computer is giving me problems.. i am not exposed or see or did i ever what goes on in puppymills and i think if i could watch it i would be more aware and more against it.. but i cant see it! :(
tatsxxx11
07-14-2003, 08:49 PM
Do you have WindowMediaPlayer? If not, let me know and I'll try and help. It wasn't unitl a few years ago, after joining Pet Talk, that I even heard about puppymills. Now, do what I can to help shut them down, has become a passion. Here's a link for downloading Windows Media Player...
Windows Media Player download (http://www.windowsmedia.com/download/download.asp)
CamCamPup33
07-14-2003, 08:55 PM
i dont think i have it.. nor do i have the others.. And i really want to see it.. That may sound horrible but i want to see it because it will encourage me to have a passion for it also if i know whats going on.. We bought cami from a store.. She was bred (obviously) but we were told be a responsible breeder.. But you never know. So i told my mom when or if we get a second dog WE WILL NOT get it from a store.. When i explained to her why she understood and told me we would only buy from a store if we were searching for a certin breed to match our lifestyle.. and i agreed.. but we are not looking for a certin breed and i think next time i will think twice before it.. Even though i dont know what i would do without her.. :rolleyes: off subject.. But i didnt come to know about puppy mills or backyard breeding until i came here.. i think pet talk has had a great deal of influence on me because of all the stuff everyone has said. But anyway.. it still wont work.. :rolleyes: :p
tatsxxx11
07-14-2003, 09:03 PM
Not to fret Cam. You already know what puppymills are...in your HEART! And as for your getting Cam from a store...well, how many of us knew about puppymills or where pet stores got their dogs from before we joined forums like Pet Talk? And I'll tell you Cam, there's no way I could resist "rescuing" a pet store pup either, if I ever laid eyes on them; heartbreaking! That's why I cannot go into places like Debbie's Petland. And of course, what would you do without your precious Cami??:) She's adorable and a wonderful doggie! And like all "homeless" dogs, she was in need of someone to love. We all just have to do what we can to make sure no more dogs are forced to lead lives of such suffering and neglect. Cami is very lucky to have you as her Mom!:)
Here's a link to written info re: puppymills.
Puppymill literature link (http://www.imom.org/voices/literature/)
CamCamPup33
07-14-2003, 09:07 PM
:) thanks so much tats.. I just wish i coulda helped a dog that was having its last day.. sorta speak.. But yeah cami is a wonderful dog full of unconditional love.. :) hmmm so how the heck can i see this thing? :D
tatsxxx11
07-14-2003, 09:09 PM
I don't know!!:confused: Maybe someone will come to OUR rescue!;) In the meantime, try this link...it's not a video, but has a lot of great info. re: puppymills!
Puppymill info (http://www.imom.org/voices/literature/)
CamCamPup33
07-14-2003, 09:14 PM
:eek: oh gosh thats terrible!!
When their uterus turns to “mush” after about six litters, just kill them and get another. No big deal to these puppy mill operators. As they will tell you, “Hell, they’re only dogs!”
this is what got me.. :( and i thought that breeders were these really responsible people in these farm houses and nice.. :( im still reading on
anna_66
07-15-2003, 07:46 AM
:( I just can't understand (well, yes I can, GREED) why people would want to run mills like the one in the video. It is so painful to watch those poor dogs.
I'm also one who never knew about puppymills or BYB before joining PT. We did get Roxey from a pet store, and I'm so happy we have her, but I would never do it again.
Thanks Sandra for posting this video. I'm going to email it to all my friends to see.
Logan
07-15-2003, 09:58 AM
Sandra, I don't have the stomach to even try and watch, but you know I completely understand this whole thing and it makes me sick. The happiest day of my life was to go into our favorite pet store (a locally owned one) and see that all the puppy cages were empty. They only take in rescue situations now. :) Small steps, but we're getting there.
GoldenRetrLuver
07-15-2003, 12:17 PM
I saw the video...and cried all the way through it.....
I just cant understand how people could be so cruel and how stupid people could buy from them. If stupid people would just stop buying from them, the horribleness would stop. Like the tape said, if you buy one of their puppies an animal in a shelter is killed....its something to think about. ...:(
lizbud
07-15-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by CamCamPup33
my stupid computer is giving me problems.. :(
What problem are you having?
Rachel
07-15-2003, 07:31 PM
Hearts United for Animals has information on puppymill too. Here is that link: http://www.hua.org/Prisoners/Puppymills.html
I knew about puppymills before joining Pet Talk but I naively thought they were few and far between.
Uabassoon
07-15-2003, 07:45 PM
When i explained to her why she understood and told me we would only buy from a store if we were searching for a certin breed to match our lifestyle.. and i agreed..
Cam if you do decide on getting a purebred to match your lifestyle. Please don't buy from a store. There are lots of excellent breeders out there for you to purchase one from. It takes some time trying to find a good breeder, but in the long run it's worth it.
I watched and my heart broke and the tears came. I can't even begin to put into words what I am feeling right now. My heart aches for these dogs. I wish there was some way that they could be forcibly shut down. This is just beyond horrific! Thank you for posting this Sandra to make people more aware. I will never forget the sights I saw tonight. :(
CamCamPup33
07-15-2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Uabassoon
Cam if you do decide on getting a purebred to match your lifestyle. Please don't buy from a store. There are lots of excellent breeders out there for you to purchase one from. It takes some time trying to find a good breeder, but in the long run it's worth it.
Well after much and much researching today ask julie :D ;) I found that where i bought cami they support puppy mills and they get their puppies from puppy mills... I was appalled when i read this.. i want nothing to do with any pet stores period.. So i was really speechless (ask julie :D ) when cami's parents could have been raised in the puppy mills.. But you're right.. We dont plan on looking for any certain kind of dog anyway.. So i know for a fact when dog number two comes it will not be from any pet store over here! See even look in my siggy.. *AHEM* i searched for them a long time (ask julie LMAO!! :D :) :D :) :D :) :D )
Lizbud- Well everytime i wanna play something or watch it (im always on the music videos thing) it always says signal is busy or something
GoldenRetrLuver
07-15-2003, 07:59 PM
:D
Sudilar
07-15-2003, 10:19 PM
Thank you, Sandra, for posting this. Even though I could not bring myself to watch it today, I know what goes on there. Maybe I will watch it tomorrow. People NEED to know what goes on out there. They really don't know where these dogs come from and what horrible conditions they exist in. All they see is the cute, adorable puppy. When they learn the truth, I think they will never again shop at those pet shops.
In 1984, I bought a dog from a pet shop. I did not know where the dogs came from. I asked and was told it was a breeder in Missouri. I bought Avalanche, my Great Pyrenees. She was stuffed in a little cage and no one was buying her. She was 12 weeks old and growing bigger and bigger. I had never heard of the breed, but I pulled a breed book and read about them. I bought her. She cost over $500 in 1984 (back then, that was a large amount to pay for a dog). I couldn't let her sit in that cage any longer. Stupid me tried to contact the breeder (I sent her a letter) to tell her what a wonderful personality Avalanche had. The breeder never answered me. Avalanche turned out to have poorly shaped legs and eventually had a cruciate ligament rupture. She also had a personality flaw, she did not like all people and was dog aggressive (except for my parent's Great Pyr, Blizzard). If she liked you, you knew it. If she didn't, watch out. However, she loved all children.
I am so glad to have been owned by my beloved Avalanche, no matter where she came from. She was the most loving dog to her family and certain others. However, I do not shop at stores that sell dogs. I will not encourage puppymills. Now I know better.
clara4457
07-16-2003, 05:39 AM
However, I do not shop at stores that sell dogs. I will not encourage puppymills. Now I know better.
My sentiments exactly. Boycott all pet stores that sell puppies. Do not buy any food, toys, leashes or anything if the pet store sells puppies. Be very careful of backyard breeders and newspaper ads as well.
Here is Buffalo there is a place that advertises at least 6 or 7 different breeds for sale in a single issue. The ad reads like:
Lab pups, AKC, shots, MC/V, Dan's - XXX-XXXX
Notice there is no address, only a phone number.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
It is all about supply and demand - if there is no demand there will be no supply.
lovemyshiba
07-16-2003, 10:09 PM
I cannot watch that, because it will upset me. I know how much everyone needs to be aware.
We have one pet store in town where puppies and kittens are sold. They are kept in rooms, not cages, but unfortunately in the puppy room, messes aren't always cleaned up right away. I have gone in to see the pups, and mopped the floor myself a few times, because the mop was right there. My friend has called the SPCA on them a number of times, but nothing has happened.
The last time I was there, there was a "breeder" dropping off her litter of boston terriers--I started crying and walked out of the store.
I will never spend a dime there. The owner comes in to the restaurant where I work, but it's not my place to tell him he isn't welcome there, so the best I can do is refuse to wait on him.
In the 6 years I have lived here though, I have seen 2 other shops where puppies were sold go out of business--maybe this one is on it's way.
clara4457
07-16-2003, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by lovemyshiba
In the 6 years I have lived here though, I have seen 2 other shops where puppies were sold go out of business--maybe this one is on it's way.
Thank God!!! -Two more supply and demand out of business:D
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