How to introduce two grown kitties together

[AdoreMyDogs]

I have a kitty on my mind. A very pretty girl kitty who is one year old, in need of a forever home, and sounds very sweet *(ahem...Donna you should NOT have told me so much wonderful stuff about Fawn!!!)*I am very, very interested in adopting her as a friend for MiniMin, but I don't want to hurt Minion's feelings and I don't want him to feel bad. He is absolutely my dream come true kitty...my best little friend, and my angel. I just have a feeling that he's social with other kitties (just little hints here and there) and my husband and I take off so often with both dogs, leaving him in the house alone, and I usually hear him crying at the door as I leave :( He is lonely when I go away, especially when I take the dogs. In the summer time I spend so much of my day in my garden and I always have the dogs with me and I always hear Min crying....sobbing......at the door in which I walked out of. I think he needs another friend who is another striclty indoor kitty who can keep him company when I am working in my garden and when I'm off to the park with the dogs, and a friend who he can actually play with. He loves the dogs, but he does not play with them. He could use a friend who speaks his same lauguage I think.

I want to know how to lessen the stress for everyone when bringing in a one year old cat into a household of a 5 year old cat. Any things that might help make it an easier transistion, any things to watch out for, any tips or tricks, etc.

Donna, I'll call you soon....I'm still working on the hubby but it's looking good sofar :) I want to meet Fawn before this weekend. I am thinking Wednesday after work, if that's good for you. I can't stop thinking about her :) She truly sounds like a perfect match for Minion's temperment, not too young and kittenish, laid back, soft spoken, friendly and social with other cats. She sounds perfect. I want her. Like I said, I still have to work on Dan, but we'll see. I am also not against getting Min vaccinated, if just this once if it must be done.

Tonight I have the big "I must have that cat" discussion with Dan. Wish me luck :)

[aly]

WOW Leslie! First of all, congrats on the possible new addition! :)

I think going at a VERY slow pace is crucial for introducing most adult cats. Some can go quicker than others, but it'd be safe to start out slow and then quicken the pace if both cats are comfortable.

It always takes Shiloh a really long time to get used to fosters. It always takes her more than a month to warm up to even their scent.

I would keep the cats totally seperated for 2 weeks. Let them smell each other under doors and get used to each other's scents. Rub each one with a towel and put the towels under the other's food bowl. The towel trick works really well.

After a couple weeks, you can slowly introduce them to each other for short periods of time. If Minion is stressed, you could put Fawn back in a bedroom or wherever you'd been keeping her.

When you do eventually let them be together, expect some hissing and growling and fussing. Its perfectly normal. In time, that should go away.

GOOD LUCK :)

[jenluckenbach]

1st-Good luck with the "I must have that cat" speach.
2nd-Congratulations. (because you will win after that speach)
3rd- SLOWLY is the key word for introductions. Let new kitty have a room of her own until she is comfortable with it. Swap items that would have each cat's scent on it (towel, blanket).
Don't be in a rush to show the cats to each other, let new cat bond with you and her surroundings before throwing another animal at her. Then do so only under supervision.
I am living proof that you can successfully introduce animals of all different personalities to each other and have it work.
GOOD LUCK!

[ramanth]

Oh Leslie!! I know we talked about this on the car ride home.

GOOD LUCK!!!! :D

[shais_mom]

I knew this was transpiring yesterday.
Good luck!
Let me know how it goes!
I can't offer any help, as I don't know much about introducing cats, I probably introduced Kylie all wrong to Shaianne and Keegan. :(

[RedHedd]

Like others have said here, go VERY SLOWLY. Keep them completely separated for the first week at least. They will get the idea that there is another cat in the house which is stressful enough. The swapping towels works extremely well; gets them used to each other's scent. Introduce them very slowly to each other - supervised visits of about 10-20 minutes a day after about two weeks of separation. You will want to rush and think the cats want to meet each other - they don't. It's very stressful for both cats so go slow. They will love you even more for it.

When you do introduce them, make sure to give them each equal time, pets and affection in front of the other cat. That way, hopefully, one won't get jealous of the other getting more attention.

It took about a month before I could leave Mitzi and Mishi alone together. After two months of gently and slowly introducing them to each other, they're FINALLY playing together, eating each other's food, he's licking her, she's starting to lick him, they can even sleep on the same bed at the same time without hissing, although they're not cuddling (yet). Taking it slowly does pay off in the end. Your cats will adjust to each other and let you live a peaceful and cat-loved life. Good luck!

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

Congratulations! I also know you'll win the "discussion" and Fawn will be yours. :D Minion seems like a real laid back kitty, and if Fawn is too, it sounds like there might not be many problems, but it's best to take everybody's advice and go slow. If, after a a day or two behind closed doors, they seem really interested, you can try introducing them, but be prepared for hissing and growls on both sides, but after that it might be hell - but then again it might be a piece of cake. I know quite a few of the PT kitties were out and about and getting comfortable in only a day or two. But you have to be careful and err on the safe side because there are also the sad tales of those that still aren't hitting it off after many months.

I think it's great that you're thinking of Minion and wanting him to be happy, and I know he'll take to Fawn and they'll be best of buds. :D

[AdoreMyDogs]

Dan agrees that Minion deserves a friend. He asked that if we do get Fawn that he can name her, since I named Graham, Kersey came with her name, and I named Minion. He has not been able to name any of our animals...so that's the only exception :)

I do love the name Fawn, but Dan wants to name our next furfriend.

We're getting a new furkid :) Hopefully all works out well with Minion and the dogs. The dogs will be fine but not sure how Fawn will like the dogs.

Thanks for the helpful info on introducing two grown cats together. If anyone has any other pointers, please post them here.

Thanks again :)

[jenluckenbach]

How exciting!!!!! I am anxious to see what name he chooses and also for intorduction stories and photos!!!! YEAH !!!!!

[Vio&Juni]

Oh, I just looked at dear Minion's pictures yesterday and I though: look at him, he's doing so great with the dawgies. But, I agree, he needs a kitty friend to have company when the dogs are out having fun.

Anxiously waiting for pictures of Fawn. Btw, what is the name your husband likes? Or he wants to decide according to kitty's personality?

[Logan]

Congratulations, Leslie! I hope it will work out for you!!!

Mimi, having been an only cat for so long, did not take kindly to a new addition, but she has adjusted, thank goodness! I definitely would not the right one to give advice, because I just opened the door and in walked Butter!! LOL!!! I did keep him in a separate room overnight, but that was it. They now know how to stay away from each other, so they are definitely not providing company to each other!! :o

Can't wait to hear all about Fawn and her new name and new home!! We're crossing our fingers, paws and claws that all will work out for you!!

Logan

[lbaker]

boy oh boy, sure hope you have better luck than SAS seems to be having :rolleyes:

[AdoreMyDogs]

Originally posted by lbaker
boy oh boy, sure hope you have better luck than SAS seems to be having :rolleyes:

Oh me too :( I feel so terrible for her, and I am so worried about that. Min is very laid back and gentle and he seems social, and Fawn is laid back and IS social w/ Donna's other cats, so hopefully it'll be good. I don't even want to think about the possibility of them hating each other, especially that much :(

Donna, Dan is not coming tonight to meet Fawn, as he is teaching and tutoring until at least 10:30 tonight, so I might bring my mom if she can make it home from work in time. I'll make sure Dan is home when you bring Fawn over, though so you can meet him.

[AdoreMyDogs]

Originally posted by Vio&Juni
what is the name your husband likes? Or he wants to decide according to kitty's personality?

No names picked out yet, although he wants a name that matches Minion. He likes the name Fawn, as I do, but he really wants a name starting with an "M" to match our Min's name. I have a name in mind, but I'm not telling him about it so he can come up with a name by himself.

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

Oh Leslie, that's wonderful news! I knew Dan would go for it. :D

Now I can't wait for the introduction stories and pics. Hopefully since Fawn/name to be determined is so social with the Donna's other kitties, she won't mind the dogs much either. Good luck and congratulations!!! :D :D

[moosmom]

Well everyone, Leslie took Fawnie home for a "trial" run to see how it works out. My heart aches because she IS such a wonderful cat and I just have this gut feeling that she and Min will be best pals, after some time.

Leslie, like everyone has said, TAKE IT SLOW. Don't expect anything to happen overnight. Let your mother bring Fawnie in the house. When you put her in her room, keep the door closed at first, before you put up the baby gates. This way they'll get each other's scent. After about a week, THEN put the gates up. You don't want to freak Fawnie out with Graham and Kersey.

Keep me posted. This will work out if you just give it time. This is the best way to find out.

Give her kisses and head bumpies from me and the gang.

[zippy-kat]

Good Luck Leslie, Dan, Graham, Kersey, Minion, and newbie-Fawn!

[Pam]

Leslie Congratulations!!! Somehow I knew Dan would agree to this! I think that Minion and Fawn (or?) sound like a good match just judging from posts about each of them. I will never forget the early Minion pictures of his bath! LOL! I said to myself right then and there - THAT'S ONE TERRIFIC CAT!" :cool: I am wishing a good introduction period and that a great fur friendship will spark between the two!

I was just thinking about the Butter/Mimi and Miley/Ti situations and think that, based on posts from fellow Pet Talkers, most kitty blendings do work out. I guess the Edwina/Eduardo situation is still anyone's guess yet! :)

Like everyone else - I can't wait for the pictures and stories!

[Vio&Juni]

Originally posted by Pam
I will never forget the early Minion pictures of his bath! LOL! I said to myself right then and there - THAT'S ONE TERRIFIC CAT!" :cool:

Pam, I feel the same!!! I remember the cute little guy all wet and skinny, I just fell in love with him right that moment. Too bad, we don't see enough pictures of Minion-Kition :p hint... hint...

How sweet of you, Leslie, to take in one more cat, in spite of your allergies :) (applause)

[AdoreMyDogs]

Originally posted by Vio&Juni
Pam, I feel the same!!! I remember the cute little guy all wet and skinny, I just fell in love with him right that moment. Too bad, we don't see enough pictures of Minion-Kition :p hint... hint...

How sweet of you, Leslie, to take in one more cat, in spite of your allergies :) (applause)

Thank you so much everyone. Minion is truly my dream come true. I swear he's an angel.

To be quite honest with you, the reason I rarely ever go on PT any longer and it may be for something that some of you may find foolish, but honestly, when I got a "poor" or one star rating when I posted about Minion being sick I have never gotten over it. It hurt me and made me feel not welcome. I was even uncomfortable with posting this rescue here because of that. So that's why I don't post much.

I'll post some pics later today, I promise :) I do hope it works out with Fawn (that's her name until Dan thinks up a new one), because she's just so darn cute :)

And note to Donna: I just want you to know that Fawn's first night was good. She's in our guest bedroom, she has her own bed to sleep on (or under, which is the case for now), all her toys and two windows to sit in. She's still very nervous, I can't get her out of under the bed, but she'll come around. I know it. For now, Minion seems to be just as frightened of her as she is of my house :)

[moosmom]

Leslie,

I'm posting from work so I have to make this quick. She'll probably stay that way for a couple of days. After that, I'd go in with treats and a teaser wand. It's not going to be overnight, but she WILL come around. How was she on the ride home? Has Minion been at the door sniffing at all? Has he shown any interest in what's behind Door #1? Keep us posted. I'm praying for ya!!

I'll be online later on tonight. ;)

[Logan]

Leslie, PLEASE, don't you dare let one person's feelings keep you away from the folks that love you and want to hear all about your family! I know I post some unpopular things, but you know what, my true friends stick by me, including people like you!

Can't wait to get a Fawn (to be named) update, and it would be nice to have a Cassie update while you're at it!! Please come back more often and ignore those who upset you.

Logan

[AdoreMyDogs]

Thank you so much Jen and Logan. I do hate that it upsets me so much, but I am a sensetive person and it just hurt my feelings. I know that I should not take it personally, but unfortunately I do. I'm trying to get over it :)

Here are some pics, and the album for more pics, if you like. Dan's so sweet. He really wants to make her love him, so he is going to lay down in the spare bedroom on the bed and see if just his energy and scent will make Fawn feel more comfortable. He's hoping that she'll come out from hiding and sleep in bed w/ him, but I told him that I don't think she's ready. He's going to try anyway. He wants to spend time with her before he decides on a name. He's more accepting of the new kitty then I ever thought he would be. He's a very dear man and I love him so much :)

I have a cat teaser, and I have used it a bit, but she's not interested. I'll just keep going in every so often, speaking softly sitting on the floor becide the bed, and hope that one of these days she'll come out. I know she's coming out to get food/water and use her litter box. She's being a good girl.

Minion seems interested and Kersey is SO cat friendly, she really is wanting to make friends w/ Fawn. Graham seems indifferent.

Anyway, here are some pics:

Fawn at Donna's apartment:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/p9e0620e30ccbab7879cf9d3367538211/fba59f98.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/pae21a9ad5be17032bcc142e08451a998/fba59e8f.jpg

And at my house:

Kersey having a sniff, and notice those flashlighs in the background...Minion :):
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/p48a3aecc09d0e2f6bfc94f034587a7d0/fba59d87.jpg

Min having a closer look:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/p8f55717018759698c25130d4c31d13d6/fba59d5c.jpg

Fawn checking out her new room:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/pbce2e7a82435bc53c6cd4c88e44a537d/fba59cdf.jpg

And Minion peeking into Fawn's room, silly boy :) :
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/pcb2077346aa708b549c9ee257f6816f4/fba59c97.jpg

The rest of Fawn's album (http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4289649825)

[jenluckenbach]

I had to laugh at Min's eyes. I know they reflect light, but SHEESH!!!!!!!
Now, tell hubby, if he wants to make friends, to lay on the FLOOR. I've been know to do this on many an occasion. And always belly up, less intimidating. Don't laugh, it works.:D

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

She's beautiful, Leslie! I love Minion's eyes in that pic. :D And it's so sweet that Dan is trying so hard. I'm sure she'll come out and be friendly when she realizes she's safe. And his laying in the room - whether on the bed or on the floor ;) - will help speed the process, I'm sure. And Minion certainly seems interested. Hopefully that is a good sign.

Thanks for the pics, and like the others said, please don't let "those" people get to you. More than likely the person that gave that low rating isn't even here anymore. They tire way too quickly when they're ignored. And anyway, there are way more of us who are interested and care than "those" types, so please keep us updated on the progress between Minion and Fawn. And come back more often too. :D

[Vermontcat]

Congratulations on adding Fawn to your family!:)
I remember Donna talking about her but I forgot what she looked like so thanks for posting the photos.
She is very pretty and she and Minion will look so good together!:)
I adore Minion since he looks so much like one of my brother's cats.
I remember your wonderful story of how you got him when you moved.
Your pets are always 5 star ratings to me so please keep posting stories and photos of them.:)

[shais_mom]

I wanted to add also that I hope you don't let stupid people get to you. It was probably a troll that did it. I know it is hard to not take it personally. But we love you and your furbies here and I would LOVE to see you here more often!!
I know this is redundant to what everyone else has said but it never hurts to hear good stuff!

[krazyaboutkatz]

Congrats on adopting Fawn/new name!!! :D I'm sure everything will work out fine but as everyone has already mentioned it just takes time. Since both cats are very sweet and laid back, the introductions should go well. Hopefully Fawn will be okay with your dogs. Good luck and please keep us updated.

BTW I also wanted to add that you shouldn't take ratings personally. That person is probably long gone by now. I for one love to hear about and see your furkids. So please continue to post on Pet Talk. :)

[Logan]

"Flashlight eyes", our newest Pet Talk word!!! I love it!!! :D

She is beautiful, Leslie, and so is Minnion!! I loved seeing his pictures in his catnip garden!!!

Logan :)

[Pam]

Originally posted by Tubby & Peanut's Mom
, there are way more of us who are interested and care than "those" types, so please keep us updated on the progress between Minion and Fawn. And come back more often too. :D

That is right!!!!!! Leslie I am so sorry that you have been staying away because of that rude person/persons. I thought you were just busy. If I had known I would have pm-ed you and begged you to return sooner. You are a *true pillar* in every sense of the word, and there are lots of us "oldies" that remember when it was only Graham and Cassie, so we go a WAAAYYY back and have loved meeting each new fur member. Fawn is just adorable and I look forward to stories and pictures!

By the way, I hope Cassie is doing OK these days. Give her a kiss on her little puggily nose for me, OK? :)

[AdoreMyDogs]

[i]
By the way, I hope Cassie is doing OK these days. Give her a kiss on her little puggily nose for me, OK? :) [/B]

Thank you so much. It's good to have friends on my side :)

Cassie is doing fairly well these days, although she has siezures every so often, and she goes unconscious after them and it looks like she's dying. She gets limp, makes a very soft cry sound, and it appeares that her breathing stops. When she seizures, sofar there has been either my mom or I to "bring her back" and she has been OK, shaken up but OK. If there is no one home to bring her out of it, then we may lose her but we are enjoying every moment that we have with the little smashie face girl. She's made it out of every episode sofar, but we are well aware that she may not one day. Sorry for not posting about her sooner. It's just so much easier to post good news :)

[AdoreMyDogs]

Hiisssssssss Sppppaaaattttt grrrrroooowwwwwlllllll! I decided to hold him and take him outside to greet Fawn threw the screened in window. Fawn was on the bed and Min saw her and the most aweful sounds came out of his mouth! Poor Fawn didn't make a peep, she just laid there and took all his verbal abuse. I told Min that it's not nice to make those aweful sounds towards the newcomer. Hopefully he'll stop doing that soon and begin to enjoy Fawn's company.

This was actually the first time I have heard Min make those sounds. He's not growled, spat at or hissed since he's been in my life. It was odd hearing him say such terrible things to Fawn...it was like he was a different cat!

I was well aware that it would not be overnight so I am not worried yet.

[Vio&Juni]

I didn't even know that Min was sick. Poor little boy :(
You should never pay attention to such people, unfortunately they exist everywhere, but we still have to keep our faith in good people. Whoever rated your thread then must've been just a poor, unhappy person that wanted others to feel as miserable as s/he was. We shouldn't give them the satisfaction to win, we should live our lives like they don't exist, and if they do exist, we don't care :)

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

Originally posted by AdoreMyDogs
Hiisssssssss Sppppaaaattttt grrrrroooowwwwwlllllll!

Hmmm....sounds like another grey and white kitty we know here on PT. A Ms E...something or other. ;) :D :D

This is completely normal, even though it's something new for Minion, and I'm sure he'll come around. Then the question is, how will Fawn/aka? take to Minion? Yep, it's going to be pretty interesting at your house for the next couple of days/weeks. :D

Please keep us updated. :D

[moosmom]

Leslie,

Posting again real quick from work. Don't worry about the hissing and spitting. As long as there is no bloodshed. Fawnie is a VERY passive cat and will usually back down if confronted (like when Maya Linn, the witch that she is, showed her who was the alpha female in my house).

Maybe once Min knows that Fawn is a GIRL he'll change his attitude.

Keep up the good work.

Hugs from me and the gang.

P.S. I got an e-mail from the shelter asking if I still have "the cat". I asked them which one and will check to see what they say. They're having an adoption fest on the 26 & 27 and might want her there. Lemme check my e-mails first to see. :D

[moosmom]

Just checked my e-mails. They were asking about Carrie (phew!!), who, BTW, is doing great. Very sweet cat who loves belly rubs and being combed, as well as catnip.

[AdoreMyDogs]

Dan truly is a sweet man. He has been sleeping in the guest bedroom so that Fawn was not alone and tonight when I was gone taking the dogs for a walk, I walked in the house and Dan stopped me at the door and said, "our little buddy reeeeeallly wanted out of her room". I looked at the hallway and saw that the door to Fawns room was open. She is loose in the house, actually underneath the sofa to be exact. She wanted out so bad and Dan felt bad for her, so he let her out. Sofar everyone is pretty much ignoring her. She seems fine with the dogs and she really wants Min's effection. Minion is unfazed at this point, but I don't know if he is aware that Fawn's loose in the house yet. He just knows that her door is open.

Well Dan picked a name. I think it's very sweet, even though it's not the most feminine name. He named her "Buddy", because she is going to be Minion's buddy and she's Dan's Buddy. She's really taking to him. I have not been able to touch her yet, but Dan's been able to pet her. I am sure she really appreciates his help in keeping her comfortable and happy.

Donna, I honestly think it's going to work out. I have to wait to see how Minion reacts once he realizes she has free roam and see how he reacts. I can't see my sweet boy being agressive, but we'll see.

P.S. Donna, by the time I got home from taking the dogs for a walk, making dinner and watching some TV, it was too late to call you. I'll try calling tomorrow to touch base with you. For now, I want you to please say no to taking her to the adoption event. I'll fill out my adoption paperwork and as soon as I get Min vaccinated, I'll fax it to the shelter. Is that OK, or does she HAVE to go to the adoption event?

[shais_mom]

I hope she doesn't HAVE to go to the adoption event. :( I thought it was the other cat she was talking about.

I am glad that she is 'out' and has a new name! Maybe you could feminize it by spelling it Buddi or Budi? Just a thought!

[Miss Meow]

Originally posted by Tubby & Peanut's Mom
Hmmm....sounds like another grey and white kitty we know here on PT. A Ms E...something or other. ;) :D :D
...

That's exactly what I was thinking :)

I hope everything works out, Leslie. Buddy (Fawn) stole my heart when Donna took her home, and I hope she has many, many years with your family.

Please continue to post about your pets. Most of us have other members who ignore or dislike us, but it's not the end of the world. There are many people who want to hear from you :)

[Cincy'sMom]

I have not been on the cat side this week, and missed this!!! Congrats on the new addition!!! I hope things continue to go well and that Minion comes to appreciate his Buddy :)

Donna- I'm glad that Carrie is doing well :) A friend of mine fromthe studio tookthat cat home with her (she has 2 others). I'll have an update Tuesday as to how it is working out.

[moosmom]

Leslie,

I sent you a PM. I am SO glad that Dan let her out. Like I said, Buddy (aka Fawn) is a very social cat and hated being in my spare room as well. After 3 nights of sleep deprivation because of her fussing, I finally let her out and it was no big deal to the others. I expected alot of bloodshed but there was none.

How is she doing with the dogs??

I will not bring her to the adoption day. I'm telling them that she has a URI (there IS a URI beginning at my house). I now live in Booger City, Michigan :p If you can, fax me the paperwork on Monday (I'll get the fax number and PM it to you) I'll get it to the shelter on my lunch hour or the next day (buying time, if you know what I mean). Just make sure you call me when you're ready to fax it so I can stand guard over the fax machine.

It makes me feel good that she's warming up to Dan. I'm sure it makes him feel good too. He's such a sweet man to sleep in the spare room so she's not lonely. I did (or TRIED) to do that when she was here and Moo was relentless at scratching on the door. He is such a spoiled brat!!! She'll come around with you in time. It could be she's just not sure about the dogs.

And please, don't worry. This IS going to work out.

I'll talk to you tonight.

(((((hugs))))))

[AdoreMyDogs]

Buddy was in hiding in the basement, where I feed Minion and the dogs so all the animals were downstairs including Buddy. All the animals knew where she was, they looked at her but didn't bug her. I fed her on top of the dryer (the cat food has to be ellevated or else the dogs will snatch it up the first moment no one's looking) and she came out and Minion made a little trill sound (he was about 6 feet from her) and then layed down. His eyes are not all black anymore. He's completely comfortable w/Buddy. She had free roam last night and nothing happened :)

I think it's perfect with her! Min has not really approched her as far as I know, but he's comfortable w/her and she is with him and the dogs :)

Yay!

[Pam]

Leslie I am so happy for you and for Buddy! I just can't wait for the pictures! Your current furkids sound so much like mine - introducing a new furry one was always easy for me but I am so thankful that it was. Not every introduction goes smoothly. Now we each have 2 pupsters and 2 kitties. Boy have our households changed since coming to PT. Do you think there is a little hypnotic hidden voice that we hear when we visit this site that says (you will adopt one more - you adopt one more - you will adopt one more!) LOL! What do you think about the name Budette as a feminine slant to her name? hehe! It just came to me since Hurricane Claudette was in the news! LOL! Lots of warm wishes to the new furkid on the block! :)

[PayItForward]

Originally posted by Pam
Do you think there is a little hypnotic hidden voice that we hear when we visit this site that says (you will adopt one more - you adopt one more - you will adopt one more!) LOL!
It is a big voice and we can't ignore it. (Five cats later).

Do you remember that we only had George when we joined this site and we were debating about a second cat!!!

[moosmom]

I e-mailed the shelter and told them that she wouldn't be coming to the adoption day as I have a home for her. I didn't want to lie to them (although there IS a URI in my house). I'm going to the shelter in a little bit and will let them know that you are in the middle of completing the paperwork and will fax it to me and I'll get it to them as soon as possible.

I knew this would work out. Sounds like Minion wants a girlfriend afterall. But, with all due respect...Buddy :confused:??? How about "Beloved" and call her "B" for short?? Just my suggestion.

I'm relieved that it's all coming together. Letting her out of the room was the best thing for everyone.

Things definitely happen for a reason!! I did my part. Now she'll have the furrrrrever home she deserves!!

[Pam]

Originally posted by PayItForward
It is a big voice and we can't ignore it. (Five cats later).

Do you remember that we only had George when we joined this site and we were debating about a second cat!!!

:D :D :D :D

[jenluckenbach]

Now don't pick on his choice of names.......hee hee You can always say Buddy is short for RoseBud. :D I am glad that the "voice" is having such an influence, more kitties is ALWAYS better.:D

[AdoreMyDogs]

LOL about the name :) It's about the last name I would have chosen but we DID have a deal :) and I thought it was a very sweet thought. At this point, we plan on keeping her name Buddy, but I think shortening it to "B" is very cute. I might have to throw in that suggestion to Dan :)

Buddy is still in hiding 100% of the time. We have no idea where she is. We know she's here somewhere but we have no idea where. I feel bad, she's still so terrified. Dan was only able to pet her once and it was just for a brief moment before she darted away and that was the last we have seen her, except for this morning when I saw her briefly when I fed the animals. Hopefully she gets more comfortable.

[Cincy'sMom]

Originally posted by PayItForward
It is a big voice and we can't ignore it.

Too true!!!

There are so many people that can relate...we only had Sadie when Ralph first joined (now 3 dogs)

And Molly had 4 or 5 dogs when she first joined? Now it is 20!

This site needs a warning label!!!



Sounds like things are going to work out Leslie...hopefully "B" won't hide too much longer. Since Minion seems to accept her, I'm sure she'll come around too :)

[moosmom]

Have you been giving her a little canned food in the a.m. and p.m.? That certainly gets her attention. So do treats. Maybe you should wait to call her by her new name till she gets used to everything and everyone. It might confuse her since she HAS been called Fawnie for a while now. Just a suggestion.

[Shado]

Allow the cats to take their time and approach each other when they feel like meeting. Make sure they do not feel like they are trapped in the same space and can escape if they want to another area of the house. They may hiss at first but eventually they will get used to each other.
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[PayItForward]

Welcome to Pet Talk :D

Why don't you start a new thread and tell us about those honeys on your signature ?

[PayItForward]

Originally posted by Cincy'sMom
This site needs a warning label!!!

I think the problem is that we all encourage each other to adopt pets and it easy to forget that this online community is (sadly) not representive of the human race.

On this site my six cats is about average BUT when you talk to non PT folk in the real world, they say 'HOW MANY CATS !!!' and I reply 'Just the six' For now

[AdoreMyDogs]

Minion wants a friend no doubt but poor B is scared to death. She's not eaten/drank anything all day nor has she used the litter box. Donna I have tried with canned food and she has not touched it. I did put some by her hideout and left her with it while I took the dogs for a walk and she didn't touch it. One of the dogs finally ate it for her.

I know Min wants a friend but I am concerned about B's well being. She is scared stiff and I am worried about her making herself sick. I would never forgive myself if something terrible happend to her because she is living with me.

I trapped her and had to put her back in her carrier to get her upstairs into her bedroom (NOT an easy task mind you) and she is just horrified, she's like in a state of shock. I know the dogs have been welcoming to her. They completely leave her alone. And Minion has been giving her space, so it's not him she's afraid of. I think she really bonded with you, Donna. I think she really bonded with you and your furgang because she's having a hard time adjusting to life here sofar and I am so worried about her. At this point, Donna, I am going to have to see if she eats in her bedroom. Sofar she's been in there a few hours and she's not touched her food...canned or dry. If she goes much longer w/o eating I will have to bring her back to your place for her own good. Like I said, I'd never forgive myself if something happened to her because she is living with us.

Oh goodness I hope she pulls out of this fear. She's an angel. I'll call you tomorrow if there is no change, and if you have any other ideas, please let me know.

I know that you are supposed to give it time, but I don't want the poor thing getting sick or having a little heart attack.

[Prairie Purrs]

Don't despair! A co-worker adopted a kitten from me who was so terrified at first that she hid behind a piano and cried for a couple of days (the kitten, not the co-worker)--my friend had to have someone come over and help her move the piano to get poor little Boo out. But Boo got used to her new home and now she's a completely happy kitty.

I'd keep B in the bedroom for awhile, to let her get comfortable in a small space first. When I brought Bob (who was most likely feral) indoors, he spent several weeks on the enclosed back porch before he got brave enough to move into the bedroom. From there, he started exploring the rest of the house. Now he's still shy of other people, but he's a perfectly comfortable house cat.

One thing I did with Bob was to spend a lot of time sitting on the floor--first on the porch, then in the bedroom--talking to him quietly. At first he kept his distance, then he'd come just within petting distance, and eventually he started curling up in my lap. With some cats, it takes a lot of patience--and cats don't like change--but she'll come around.

[shais_mom]

Leslie, don't go blaming yourself! You are trying your very best, and I know how big your heart is. Just keep in mind that it has been less than a week. When I first brought Kylie into my home it was over 24 hours before she used her litter box. I remember being so happy when I finally saw the leftovers!
I have a feeling that after she is in her room for awhile, she will relax and be able to get comfortable. I don't feel you are doing anything wrong!
You are in my thoughts and prayers.

[jenluckenbach]

Calvin would not eat for over 4 days when he got here. I finally tempted him with meatloaf.
She needs to stay in that room until she is comfortable with you. This is the mistake a lot of people make. Just because they act like they want out, does not mean it is the best thing for them. Poor Buddy had no idea that she would have come face to face with a whole new territory when she cried to get out of the bedroom. She'll make it, please give her time.

[Cataholic]

I really have to echo Jen, and what EVERYONE else said early on. SLOW introductions. I know you are impatient, we all are. BUT, for both kitties sake, and the two dogs involved, you have to keep them separate. Letting B out is like exposing a candy starved kid to the chocolate factory- sensory overload. I would start completely over, and put B in her own room for a MINIMUM of two weeks, with just you and Dan visiting her. Ignore her pleas to get out. I really think these first few weeks are the critical point in the relationship. B needs to build her confidence.

Good luck.

[aly]

Leslie,

I know the stress you're feeling! Try to not worry too much because I'm sure everything will work out. The first few times I moved Shiloh into a new place with me, she would get VERY STRESSED. Two of the times, she didn't eat or use her litter box at all for the first 3 days. She always adjusted though. I know all cats are different, but I would give B a little more time before worrying.

Maybe you guys can spell her name Buddie? That sounds a little more feminine, right?

I wish you the best of luck. If only we could tell the sweet girl that she won't have to worry about anything in your house.

[AdoreMyDogs]

Hi everyone. It's going well here with Buddie, AKA B. She's really adjusting well. She's still nervous of Dan and I, but we got her for Minion and so that's her soul job...to be Minion's friend. Today they were sleeping together under our bed. I looked under the bed and Saw Min's tail and I thought it was odd that he was sleeping under the bed, so I got down and looked and he's right becide B :)

So our main problem is figuring how to capture B twice a day so we can administer liquid meds for her URI that she picked up at Donna's (I feel so sorry for you Donna with all those cats and URI!). Tonight she came down into our office to spend time with us voluntarily and we had to trap her and squirt meds in her mouth. She was SOOOO upset and she promptly bolted away, most likely wishing she had never came down to spend time with us. I feel bad for her :( poor thing. Little does she know it's for her own good. So that's going to set us back with the socialization, but she'll get over eventually.

When I scooped Min's box today, I noticed an extra pile of kitty turds and an extra couple pee piles...way more then Min could ever eliminate, so she and Min are using the same box, which I think is really nice. She has not used her own box in a couple of days.

I am so proud of Minion. He's truly smitten with the new little cutie. He is so sweet and welcoming. He made those aweful sounds threw the window only that day, and since B has been loose in the house he's been a real gentleman with her, nose sniffing, litter box sharing, and now they are sleeping together. I'm so glad it is working out....now I'm waiting on my adoption application and she will be mine when I am approved (hopefully I will be!)

Thanks everyone. I'll update you on new happenings. :)

[Cincy'sMom]

Great news Leslie!!! I'm sure she will adjust to you in time, and for now, she has found a friend in Minion. YEAH!!!!

[zippy-kat]

Sleeping together? Out of wedlock (adoption)? What will the neighbors think?!:eek: ;)

Glad to hear Min and B are warming up to each other! YAY!:D

[jenluckenbach]

I looked under the bed and Saw Min's tail and I thought it was odd that he was sleeping under the bed, so I got down and looked and he's right becide B
HOW SWEET !!!!!!!:D :D

[Vio&Juni]

What a roller coaster! I hope she will warm up to you too, like she did with Minion. She is such a beauty and MinMin is a sweety :)

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

Yipee! I'm so glad Minion has taken to B! :D

I'm sure once she's feeling better she'll warm up to you and Dan right quick. And I don't think you have anything to worry about in terms of being able to adopt her. If the shelter has any problems, let them come and read this thread and see what a good mom you are to all your furkids and they shouldn't have a second thought about it.

Big hugs to Minion for being such a sweety, and to the doggies for welcoming her too. :D

[AmberLee]

What MARVELOUS news! I'm excited for you all.

[moosmom]

Leslie,

I got your message last night. The shelter was without power for 2 days because of a violent storm on Sunday night. They ended up losing a cat :(.

I ended up driving the application over there on my lunch hour today so give it a day or so and you'll probably hear something. If I hear ANYTHING, I will call you immediately. And to answer your question, I have absolutely NO problem with you using me as a reference on the application! I never would've let B go to your house if I didn't think it was the right thing. ;)

I'm so glad to hear things are beginning to work out. Min sounds like a lovebug and I'm thrilled he's happy with her.

I think the reason she's not eating is because of the URI. She's gotta be eating and drinking, though, if she's using the litterbox, so I wouldn't worry too much.

As far as holding a grudge against the medication, she'll get over it.

I'm so happy for you!!!!! She's finally got a furrrrrrrever home!

(((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))

[Barbara]

I missed this thread and when I noticed it it seemed far to long for a follow-up: But I did it and read the wonderful story of Minion (one of my favorites here) and B.

It's rather classical: first they are curious but very very careful, then there is some hissing and spitting but friendship comes soon after. The Ti/Miley situation is not normal.

BTW I remember that thread about Minion being sick and like 5000 people minus one idiot I thought it extremely tasteless to rate it. But you know I am sure it was just some chaotic thing and nothing personal and now we wish to see more pix of Minion and his little Lady B.:) :D

[Cataholic]

Leslie,
I am so glad to hear things are moving along for the kitties!!!

[AdoreMyDogs]

Sadly, for the sake of Fawn, she is back with Donna. She was just SOOOO miserable and the worst part is that she found this hiding place in the ceiling of my basement. She came out briefly to use the litter box when no one was around, but still was not eating/drinking water. Her URI was getting really bad and I didn't want it turning into pnemonia, which it may have because I was unable to medicate her when she's hiding in the ceiling of the basement.

I called Donna and asked her what she thought, she agreed that Fawn needs to come back home. She was just not adjusting and Minion wanted to be friends with her, but he stopped approching her, I think he was hoping she would approch him, which she was way too terrified to do. :( :( :(

It was so touching, when Donna came over to get Fawn, Fawn started purring, kneeding her paws, and inhaled the food and treats Donna brought to persuade her to come out of hiding. Fawn is extremely bonded to Donna. Donna said that aside from Moo, Fawn is the first cat that has been that attached to her....and the good news is that Donna decided to adopt Fawn. I was relieved to hear that, as I don't want her to go through this again. Fawnie was even purring and making biscuts while she was in her carrier because she had her "mom" back. It was very emotional.

Donna suggest we get a kitten because they are so easy to adjust. I am going to the shelter she volunteers at on Saturday to "just look" and see if anything jumps out at me. I have a soft spot for both tuxedo and orangies, so we'll see. I just want a friend for Min. I hope he's ok with a kitten.

Thanks for the help, everyone. This was the best decision for Fawn, and I don't regret it at all, especially seeing how happy she was when she saw Donna.

[moosmom]

First let me say that Leslie made the absolute right decision!! If Fawnie had stayed much longer, she would've gotten alot sicker due to her immune system.

On the way home, I had the door to the carrier open with my hand in it petting her. She put her paw on my hand, her head on her paw and slept the whole way home. Since she's been home, it's back to normal. She's very happy being around everyone and especially sleeping with me at night. Last night she was begging me to play fetch. I have never in my life had a foster cat bond to me and my brood as much as she has. I called the shelter yesterday and asked them about adopting her. The Director of the shelter won't be in till next Tuesday so I'll have to wait till then. I can guarantee she will have no problem with Fawnie staying with me. She's still on Clavamox (hates it) but takes it 2x a day. Her sneezing has subsided somewhat which means it's working. I also have given her Diphenhydramine for congestion and so far so good.

Carrie on the other hand has me really worried and I'm calling the shelter again today. None of my cats were sick till I brought her in. I've been VERY careful about washing my hands each and everytime I go in there. She's not eating or drinking and her urine odor is VERY strong. I'm concerned about it turning into pneumonia. And that's not good for a 14 year old cat.

So Leslie and I are going to the shelter on Saturday to pick out a kitten for her. I think (IMO) that a kitten adapts so much easier than an adult cat who has been around a while. We'll find Min a buddy, I promise!! ;)

[Barbara]

Oh - sad to hear that Fawn didn't adjust. :(
Aaawww -glad to hear she is where her heart belongs. :) :D

The description of her behavior on her way back to you says it all.
I hope she recovers quickly.

And yes, Leslie: I am sure a kitten will be Minion's best friend:)

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

I'm so sad that things didn't work out, but happy that she is happy again now that she is home. I'm surprised she adapted so easily at your house, Donna, but had such a problem with Leslie's house, was it the dogs maybe?

It appears Minion really does what a friend though, so I'm so happy to hear you'll be going to the shelter to find him one. Can't wait for the post and pics of the new addition. :D

And Donna, I'm so glad to hear you'll be adopting Fawn, although it sounds like she really gave you no other option. ;)

[ramanth]

Things like this happen for a reason, though I am sad it didn't work out.

But it's good to know that you're still thinking of getting Minion a buddy. Best of luck in your search!

*HUGS*

[shais_mom]

OHHHH!
Leslie! My heart is soooo sad for you, but you seem to have Fawn/B's best interest at heart, and it seems that she really wanted to be with Donna. You gave it a good shot. And I know that Donna believes that too!! And now she is in a happy home!
And you will hopefully find a wonderful little soul of a kitten to be buddies with Min-Min!
My heart is soooo happy for Fawn and Donna! YEAA!
Keep us posted!

[moosmom]

And I know that Donna believes that too!!

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!

[jenluckenbach]

I am sorry that Fawn could not adapt, but it is obvious, now, that Fawn knew where she needed to be (with Donna). I am also happy that you are still looking for a friend for Minion.
Now...........a little bundle of orange would make a great "Buddy" ;) (just a suggestion...hee hee)
I have yet another opinion, 6 month old kittens are a real nice age for adoption. Still young and adaptable, but a bit more settled into their personality so you can judge what he'll be like as an adult. And a male would make just as good of a companion for Min as a female. My males LOVE each other and are so much more relaxed.
I guess I could stop rambling now.:o

[NoahsMommy]

I'm sorry to say that I'm kind of happy...only because not only did Fawn get the home she was intended for, but because a kitten is going to another wonderful home as well! :) Its a win win situation!!

I am sorry Fawn didn't work out with you Leslie...but I bet Minion will love a kitten to play and snuggle with.

Donna...I knew how much you loved that girl...I could tell she stole your heart! :)

[Cincy'sMom]

I'm sorry Fawn didn't work out Leslie, but it has to be easier knowing she is going back to a good friend. And now you have learned that Minion would like a friend and can look for the best match for him. I'm sure there is a reason Fawn didn't adjust and it wil show itself it the form of some little fuzz ball looking for love., if not this weekend, soon. And this way 2 cats get saved :)