View Full Version : dad getting bernese mountain dog!
tikeyas_mom
07-01-2003, 06:56 PM
he is going to get one next summer from a breeder in Victoria. The breeder is selling them for 8-1000 $ a puppy. She wont sell to people who are not seriouse about the breed. My dad is. He is ubsessed. Has anyone seen equilibrium? it has a bernese mountain dog in it, my dad went freaky when he saw it ;). Here are a couple of pics of bernese mountian dogs:
http://www.timberwolforganics.com/images/bernese.jpg
http://www.sennenkoirat.net/galleria/berni/elmeri2.jpg
does anyone know anything about the breed, or have any experience with the breed? thanks !! :)
I saw my first one in person about a year ago. One of our patients brought her puppy into the office for us to meet. It was 8 weeks old and already weighed 16 lbs. but what a precious little bundle.
This April I went to a dog show mostly of Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs but there were a few Bernese there as well. I must admit I just adored the Bernese dogs!! They were like big teddy bears! They are gorgeous and just awesome. The Swissies look very much like the Bernese except with short hair. In fact my daughter will be bringing a Swissie into her on home on July 12th and I am sure she will be posting pictures by the 13th! LOL!
Congratulations to your dad. He is one lucky man and we will look forward to seeing pictures!
Orlando Bloom's Gal
07-01-2003, 08:59 PM
Normally if a breeder charges that much for a pup, that is a show quality pup. I would show it. If it's an expensive pup, it usually means the parents are Champs, and the pup should finish fast and produce good pups in it's later life. I've had many years of handling Bernese Mountain Dogs. They are great dogs to handle, but they are big. You have to be prepared to be able to handle a 100=150lb dog.
Christiansmommy
07-01-2003, 09:31 PM
Congrats!! I am Pam's daughter, the one who is getting a Greater Swiss Mountain Dog in less than 2 weeks. The Berner is one of the four Sennehunds (dogs from Switzerland) (the third largest, the largest being the Swissy). I had the pleasure of meeting several Berners and they are awesome dogs!! Very friendly..but very big :) I like big :)
Make sure to research the breeder very thouroghly. Make sure to find out if the parents are OFA certified ( that they have good hips and elbows), and make sure to read up on bloat...a disorder that effects large/giant breeds...that is very serious if not recognized early.
Anyway, my husbnad had wanted a Berner for quite sometime and then we found out about the Swissy, who shed less and have a longer life span...and we just fell in love...but i hope to have a Berner one day too...they are so cuddly. It isnt unlikely to pay that much for a Berner. And it is good if the breeder is very picky about who he adopts out to, b/c it means he takes good care and wants only the best for his dogs...anyway, pm me with any questions, we reserached this breed pretty thouroghly before we decided on our Swissy...so i may be able to answer some questions! Congrats!
Robyn
wolfsoul
07-01-2003, 11:47 PM
Congrats! I can't wait to see the doggy! Any names yet?
I hope he knows that the breed only lives for about 6 years. A major drawback.
Normally if a breeder charges that much for a pup, that is a show quality pup
I find that most breeders charge that much for a giant pup, show quailty or not. I've seen a pyrenees from a backyard breeder that cost 2000 dollars, and a great dane from a BYB that cost 1200 dollars.
wolfsoul
07-02-2003, 01:16 AM
is this the breeder?
http://members.shaw.ca/Swisskiss-BMD/
They have cute doggies! :)
Christiansmommy
07-02-2003, 06:02 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by wolfsoul
[B]
I hope he knows that the breed only lives for about 6 years. A major drawback.
Actually, close, but they live to be at least 8, some 10 years old, where the Swissy lives to be 10-12, and some have lived/are living longer, ...another good question to jot down to ask the breeder on the health of his dogs and the averate lifespan that he was seen with his dogs, as well as any health issues.
It is true, the price doesnt mean it is show quality. You can pay $1200 for a dog from a pet store...if you have a great breeder they go the extra mile for their dog and have been breeding for years and years, and if you want to show it, they will choose the dog that most fits the standard, where the pet companion dogs, may have slightly different markings, or a shorter snout, ect. and may be a couple hundred dollars cheaper, but may also be quite pricey..which is expected for a fairly rare ( not so much anymore) breed.
Christiansmommy
07-02-2003, 06:40 AM
Here is the schedule for the show Breed all about it on Animal Planet...It looks like the Bernese Mountain Dog one is airing at the end of July...mark your calendar if you get this channel :)
Here is the link:
http://animal.discovery.com/schedule/series.jsp?series=75602&gid=632&channel=APL
Robyn
tikeyas_mom
07-02-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Orlando Bloom's Gal
Normally if a breeder charges that much for a pup, that is a show quality pup. I would show it. If it's an expensive pup, it usually means the parents are Champs, and the pup should finish fast and produce good pups in it's later life. I've had many years of handling Bernese Mountain Dogs. They are great dogs to handle, but they are big. You have to be prepared to be able to handle a 100=150lb dog.
rust me I will Noit be handleing it, My dad will lol. He wants a big dog for hunting and helping him drag the kill ect.. thats what he used our old malamute for and he weighted 160 pounds.
is this the breeder?
I have no idea lol. I havelt looked at that website before, It is cute though :D.
the average lifespan is 8-10 years and that is just an average, if the dog is worked and healthy it could live longer.
Christiansmommy I will be pming u lol ;)
tikeyas_mom
07-02-2003, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by wolfsoul
is this the breeder?
http://members.shaw.ca/Swisskiss-BMD/
They have cute doggies! :)
I took a closer look at the site and it is the breeder that my dad was thinking of getting his pup from.
shais_mom
07-02-2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
rust me I will Noit be handleing it, My dad will lol. He wants a big dog for hunting and helping him drag the kill ect.. thats what he used our old malamute for and he weighted 160 pounds.
you cannot be serious
this is inhumane
Berners are NOT HUNTING DOGS! If the breeder sells a puppy to your dad knowing this, they are not very trustworthy.
wolfsoul
07-03-2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by shais_mom
you cannot be serious
this is inhumane
Berners are NOT HUNTING DOGS! If the breeder sells a puppy to your dad knowing this, they are not very trustworthy.
He isn't making the dog hunt. :confused: I know plenty of people that bring their dog out with them when they are hunting/fishing. Doesn't seem inhumane to me.
Huskies are used for dragging sleds behind them, is that cruel? I use Timber to drag sleds in the winter, and 6/7 of the breeds in her are NOT sled dogs. As long as it doesn't hurt the dog physically or mentally, it isn't inhumane or cruel. IMO.
GoldenRetrLuver
07-03-2003, 01:01 AM
I dont think its cruel, but, umm...were Berners used for hunting?? If your dad wants a hunting dog maybe a dog that was breed for hunting??
wolfsoul
07-03-2003, 01:11 AM
Most hunting dogs aren't muscular enought to drag a kill. (eg bloodhound, coonhound.) There are a few that are (eg Irish wolfhound, akita) but it seems like her dad is really focused on this breed for purposes other than dragging kill as well. He doens't want one JUST for dragging kill, he wants one for other purposes as well. It's a good thing that he took into consideration the other aspects of this breed, and isn't just buying it for one sole purpose.
shais_mom
07-03-2003, 12:57 PM
Once again I respectivaly quote this from Binka- Nugget
" But then again, I'm entitled to my own opinion and so are you. So, I respect what you have said and won't try to argue because nothing good comes out of arguments"----------------->>>>binka nugget
I am entitled to my opinion as everyone else is, I don't agree with the reasoning behind him getting this particular dog. IMO
I am quoting Binka- nugget (Ashley???) b/c she said it perfectly to me in another thread.
tikeyas_mom
07-03-2003, 01:58 PM
he is also getting a bernese because they are gentle and
hUGE!!! he wants a big dog, he has had them all his life, he saw this breed and fell in love. He will be taking this dog EVERYWHERE with him, hunting, fishing, camping, travelling, everywhere. I just used hunting as an example. and He will be helping the dog drag the kill, hes not just going to force it to drag it by its self. lol thats kinda mean.
Kfamr
07-03-2003, 01:58 PM
Hold on a second..... Your dad can pay a breeder thousands of dollars for a dog, But not for a small animal's surgery??
tikeyas_mom
07-03-2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Kfamr
Hold on a second..... Your dad can pay a breeder thousands of dollars for a dog, But not for a small animal's surgery??
yes because we are getting it in about a year or twe, and by then we will have settled with ICBC. My mom got in a car crash and brock her pelvis. We are now settling for money. and we havent yet settled, if we havent by then, then we wont get the dog. We are settling this summer. I just dont know when.
Kfamr
07-03-2003, 02:06 PM
I'm not sure what "ICBC" is but whatever it is it must be nice to be able to get a large breed dog and be able to care for it, when just a year ago you wouldn't have been able to pay for the surgery of a rat. My dad is on disability and we still don't really have enough money, we still got Nala though. We get a check every month now, and it barely gets us through. Every cent I get goes to the care of Simba and Nala.
GoldenRetrLuver
07-03-2003, 02:07 PM
So, wait....if you get the money, you will get the dog, if you dont, then you wont get the dog. So, even if you do get the dog, will you be able to afford vet care, food, groming, etc..? I know a few friend with Berners. There great dogs, but require a lot of care.
wolfsoul
07-03-2003, 02:22 PM
I am entitled to my opinion as everyone else is, I don't agree with the reasoning behind him getting this particular dog. IMO
But like I already told you, this isn't the only reason. I use Timber to help scare away thieves. But it isn't the only reason that I have her. I have her because she's a great dog, she's my friend, I have fun with her, she's good to take for runs, I love her, she's beautiful. Just like Jynnelle's dad is getting this dog, for many different reasons.
I'm not sure what "ICBC" is
ICBC is the public auto insurance company of British Columbia.
if you get the money, you will get the dog, if you dont, then you wont get the dog. So, even if you do get the dog, will you be able to afford vet care, food, groming, etc..? I know a few friend with Berners. There great dogs, but require a lot of care.
Yes :) ICBC is constantly confusing people with money intakes and outtakes. I'm not really sure how it works though. But once a claim is settled, you get your money.
Kfamr
07-03-2003, 02:49 PM
Ok, Thanks Jordan.:)
GoldenRetrLuver
07-03-2003, 02:59 PM
Okay, lol, i get it now...Thanks Jordan. :)
tikeyas_mom
07-03-2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by GoldenRetrLuver
So, wait....if you get the money, you will get the dog, if you dont, then you wont get the dog. So, even if you do get the dog, will you be able to afford vet care, food, groming, etc..? I know a few friend with Berners. There great dogs, but require a lot of care.
I dont take my dogs to the groomers, We groom them our selves. My mom shaves oscar her self and I brush Tikeya. It isnt that bad!! And yes If we get the money we will get the dog, if we dont then we wont! what about that dont you understand!!!! If we get the dog we will afford vet care, as we can right now for the dogs we have, we just couldent afford to take a rat in for a HUGE expensiver surgery!!!
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 01:05 AM
I thought I read the surgery was only $100 something?
GoldenRetrLuver
07-04-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by Kfamr
I thought I read the surgery was only $100 something?
I remember that to...hmmm..thats strange...:
tikeyas_mom, i do understand now. Jordan explained it and now I get it. :) BTW,what happens if the dog needs a big, expensive surgery?? Its just something to think about...
tikeyas_mom
07-04-2003, 01:22 AM
huh? ok I said the surgery was 150 depending.
And we will pay for surgery if needed on the dog. Like I said befor We will have the money for all this when and befor we get the dog. !!!!!
GoldenRetrLuver
07-04-2003, 01:26 AM
Ok, fine. I just said it was something to think about.
shais_mom
07-04-2003, 01:32 AM
hmmmm there is a big difference b/n $100-150
I took Keegan to the vet about a month ago and her bill came to about $115
I took Kylie to the vet on Wed and it was about $40
so I have spent $150+ on them in the last month plus food/treats and litter and toys.
etc
hmmmmmmmmm sumpin doesn't make sense
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 01:38 AM
What if Tikeya, Oscar or any of your current pets needed something costly right at this moment?
GoldenRetrLuver
07-04-2003, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by Kfamr
What if Tikeya, Oscar or any of your current pets needed something costly right at this moment?
Yep. My point. Thats why I said it was something to think about...
tikeyas_mom
07-04-2003, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by Kfamr
What if Tikeya, Oscar or any of your current pets needed something costly right at this moment?
then We'd have to get a lone.
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 01:53 AM
Why didn't you get a loan for the rat?
GoldenRetrLuver
07-04-2003, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by Kfamr
We didn't you get a loan for the rat?
Good Point. :)
tikeyas_mom
07-04-2003, 01:58 AM
my parents didnt feel we should goto that extent because it was'nt in the family that long + it should have been the SPCA resonsiblity to fix the rat befor adopting it out.
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 02:08 AM
That makes no sense on your parent's part. That's basically like saying, "Oh we just had this baby, We're not going to take care of it's medical needs because it hasn't been in the family too long.":rolleyes:
tikeyas_mom
07-04-2003, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by Kfamr
That makes no sense on your parent's part. That's basically like saying, "Oh we just had this baby, We're not going to take care of it's medical needs because it hasn't been in the family too long.":rolleyes:
it is totally differnt, this isnt a BABY we are talking about, you cant simply buy a baby. you are getting out of line, I dont think A rat should be compared to my parents babies lol. sorry but it sounded funny.
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 02:34 AM
so, you're saying your animals aren't as important as a human life? Because that's what I got out of it.
wolfsoul
07-04-2003, 02:49 AM
I don't think that she's saying that, I think that she's saying that her dogs and other animals that have been with the family for a longer amount of time mean more to her family than something that she had just got. It doesn't mean the life isn't that important.
Why are we talking about this? :confused: :eek: Even I'm caught up in it. Please, let's just talk about bernese mountian dogs. Jynnelle's dad wants to know more about them and see if any have personal experience. Also, another option he is considering is the Swiss Mounitan dog because they live longer, and he'd like a dog that has a longer life span than 6-10 years or whatnot. Any other dogs that act alot like those breeds, please mention. He really loves the swiss breeds.
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by wolfsoul
I don't think that she's saying that, I think that she's saying that her dogs and other animals that have been with the family for a longer amount of time mean more to her family than something that she had just got. It doesn't mean the life isn't that important.
It doesn't matter how long the animal has been a part of the family, they should be as equally important to the family.
wolfsoul
07-04-2003, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by Kfamr
It doesn't matter how long the animal has been a part of the family, they should be as equally important to the family.
Her parents can't change their opinions from what they are. They shouldn't be forced to love an animal they've had for a day just as much as they love their children that they've had for 16, 14, and 10 years. The rats was as important to Jynnelle as would be her children, because to her that was her child. And people here told her what was best for it, and so she brought it back. Just because she loved it, doesn't mean that her family should love it. My mom hates ALL my animals. I guess she is cruel, heartless and mean because she loves me more than my pets.
tikeyas_mom
07-04-2003, 03:11 AM
You really make me giggle :rolleyes:
wow you are just too funny. I just thought that you were mature for 1 second there. Guess you proved me wrong.
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by wolfsoul
Her parents can't change their opinions from what they are. They shouldn't be forced to love an animal they've had for a day just as much as they love their children that they've had for 16, 14, and 10 years. The rats was as important to Jynnelle as would be her children, because to her that was her child. And people here told her what was best for it, and so she brought it back. Just because she loved it, doesn't mean that her family should love it. My mom hates ALL my animals. I guess she is cruel, heartless and mean because she loves me more than my pets.
I never said her parents should change their opinion.
I think it's wrong that some people don't love their pets as much as their children. I love my dogs and would much rather have them than a child any day.
I know she may have loved it, what if she love her human child (when/if she has one) but her parents didn't? Does that mean it shouldn't get medical help if needed, just because her parents don't like it? Maybe that doesn't apply to her situation though, since it seems animal children aren't as important to her parents as a human child is.
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
wow you are just too funny. I just thought that you were mature for 1 second there. Guess you proved me wrong.
Ok?:confused:
wolfsoul
07-04-2003, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by Kfamr
Ok?:confused:
I saw the post too. You deleted it.
So...does anyone know anything about bernese mountian dogs?
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by wolfsoul
I saw the post too. You deleted it.
Yes, I know this. It was deleted for a reason as well. I realized the stupidity of it and rose higher. :)
Cookiebaker
07-04-2003, 03:22 AM
What we all need to realize is that pets are NOT barbie dolls. They are not disposeable as such. When you take on a new pet, it does not matter what is wrong with them, or how long we have had them. We are still RESPONSIBLE that they get the care that they need, whether it be medical care, food, exercise, grooming, whatever.
The other thing I am hearing here is (maybe not in this specific term) "Oh it was JUST a rat" :rolleyes:"We only had him for a day" Man, I hate that!!!! It was a living creature for crying out loud!!!
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 03:25 AM
I found a site about Bernies. It has some information and galleries. It is Berner.org (http://berner.org/).
wolfsoul
07-04-2003, 03:30 AM
I just found this out! :) Bernese mountian dogs have been used for drafting for a number of years! It's one of the things the breed does best. So the whole reason the tension got stared was pretty unfortunate, because pulling is something that the breed has a drive for. :) I just looked up some other info too. Neat breed! :D
tikeyas_mom
07-04-2003, 03:47 AM
Thanks for the info wolfsoul, and thanks for that site kfamr!! I will show it to my dad when he is off work. :)
RockyRoad
07-04-2003, 01:04 PM
It's great that your family may be getting a BMD. :) Here are some sites I found:
http://aolsvc.decisionguides.aol.com/dogs/overview.jsp?query=none&idItem=18000055
http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/bermtn.cfm
http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/breeds/berners.html
Pics: http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/image?query=Bernese+Mountain+Dogs&invocationType=imageTab./aol/jsp/search.jsp
http://breederweb.com/msgboards/listMessages.asp?boardId=22
Desert Arabian
07-04-2003, 05:24 PM
Most hunting dogs aren't muscular enought to drag a kill. (eg bloodhound, coonhound.)
Um....what are you talking about?? How can hunting dogs, which are bred to do jobs such as tracking, killing, retrieving, dragging, flushing, etc...not be muscular enough to do the job!?! Your statment makes no sence at all.
A Coonhound doesn't have to weigh 200 pounds, because the game it is bred to go after, raccoons & possums, weigh under 30 pounds.
A Bloodhound isn't bred to drag it's kill, it's bred to track the game, but it could drag it if it was trained to drag the kill.
If you want a hunting dog which can drag big game such as wild sheep, deer, boar, small bear, lynx, bobcat, etc you would get a Samoyed, Elkhound, Karelian Bear Dog, Norwegian Elkhound, West Siberian Laika, or a Norbottenspets- which are bred for hunting big game.
Bottom Line: Hunting dogs are muscular enough to do the job they are bred to do.
P.S. A Bernese Mountain Dog's aptitude is cattle-driver, tracking dog, watchdog, and family pet. It's not meant to be a big game hunting dog used for dragging its masters kill.
wolfsoul
07-04-2003, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
If you want a hunting dog which can drag big game such as wild sheep, deer, boar, small bear, lynx, bobcat, etc you would get a Samoyed, Elkhound, Karelian Bear Dog, Norwegian Elkhound, West Siberian Laika, or a Norbottenspets- which are bred for hunting big game.
He doesn't want a hunting dog for the millionth time. And he isn't hunting possums or racoons. I don't even know about where you live, but that's pretty illegal here. He's hunting deer and moose. He doesn't want a hunting dog, he wants a dog that can drag kill. He wants a bernese mountain dog. What's with people saying that a dog that he wants to take hunting automatically has to be a hunting breed? That's like breedism. If anyone here has seen dog carting on tv or anything, the dogs that I see most used are malamutes and pitbulls. Not hunting breeds. A dog does not have to be a hunting breed to pull.
Desert Arabian
07-04-2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by wolfsoul
And he isn't hunting possums or racoons. I don't even know about where you live, but that's pretty illegal here.
Did I say he was hunting possums & coons, no!
I live in Wisconsin, which you can see in my status bar. In Wisconisn they want you to kill as many raccoons as possible because they are causing tons and tons and tons and tons of economic damage, along with deer. They are problem animals in Wisconsin.
What's with people saying that a dog that he wants to take hunting automatically has to be a hunting breed? That's like breedism.
If that's the case, why doesn't he get a Malteese, Shih Tzu, Teacup Chihuahua, or a Minature Pinscher to be his hunting partner, after all, every breed can be a hunting dog.
He's hunting deer and moose. He doesn't want a hunting dog, he wants a dog that can drag kill.
I hope that dog doesn't have to drag a moose, good luck, have fun! Poor dog! Get an ATV. A bull moose weighs around 1,800 pounds...that would be cruel to have a dog try and drag a moose. HAHAHA, that makes me think of the dog in The Grinch Who Stole Christmas trying to pull the sleigh.
This is about Tikeyas_mom's dad, how about you let her talk for her own dad/self. Unless you are Tikeyas_mom and Wolfsoul is your second sign-in name.
tikeyas_mom
07-04-2003, 10:57 PM
he doesntjust want the dog for that purpose. There are many reasons he wants the breed,he loves HUGEdogs and wants a big family type dog, that he can take out with him places..
thanks for the sites britt!!
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 11:01 PM
He should go to the pound and look for dogs there. I'm sure there are more than one dog who is willing to be a big family dog and go out places with him.:)
wolfsoul
07-04-2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
If that's the case, why doesn't he get a Malteese, Shih Tzu, Teacup Chihuahua, or a Minature Pinscher to be his hunting partner, after all, every breed can be a hunting dog.
For the last time, he does not want a hunting dog!!!
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
[FONT=tekton]I hope that dog doesn't have to drag a moose, good luck, have fun! Poor dog! Get an ATV. A bull moose weighs around 1,800 pounds...that would be cruel to have a dog try and drag a moose. HAHAHA, that makes me think of the dog in The Grinch Who Stole Christmas trying to pull the sleigh.
It's not like the dog will be pulling the moose with only a leash. Her dad has a large sled, and he has a harness.
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
This is about Tikeyas_mom's dad, how about you let her talk for her own dad/self. Unless you are Tikeyas_mom and Wolfsoul is your second sign-in name.
omg, I think I have better things to do with my spare time then pretend to be someone I'm not. Ask Karen if you don't believe me, most moderators keep track of computers IP numbers.
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
[SIZE=3]This is about Tikeyas_mom's dad, how about you let her talk for her own dad/self.SIZE]
I'd like to see this once in a while too.
tikeyas_mom
07-04-2003, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Kfamr
He should go to the pound and look for dogs there. I'm sure there are more than one dog who is willing to be a big family dog and go out places with him.:)
I bet you are right, but his heart is set on this breed!
He could probably find one in a shelter or rescue group if he kept his eye out. I know I've seen some come through my shelter.
Kfamr
07-04-2003, 11:18 PM
I was going to look on petfinder for them but i forget where she lives hehe
Desert Arabian
07-04-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by wolfsoul
I don't even know about where you live, but that's pretty illegal here.
Hmm.....this is awfully odd! I see on the British Columbia pest control website they state this:
Raccoons are classified as furbearers under the Wildlife Act, and may be trapped in season by registered trappers who have a valid trapping licence. If you are in an area that is open to the discharge of firearms and you have a valid hunting licence, raccoons may be legally hunted. However, if you are in an area where the use of firearms is prohibited, raccoons may not be captured or killed without a permit.
When you break that down into easy terms I believe it says that raccoons can be hunted in British Columbia. BC Site (http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/epd/epdpa/ipmp/Brochures/racoons.htm)
Here is a link to many many other sites which claim it is legal: Click Here (http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?invocationType=bottomsearchbox.%2Faol%2Fjsp %2Fsearch.jsp&query=Raccoon+hunting+in+British+Columbia)
:) :) :) :) :) :)
he doesntjust want the dog for that purpose. There are many reasons he wants the breed,he loves HUGEdogs and wants a big family type dog, that he can take out with him places..
Ahh....ok....I get it now.
tikeyas_mom
07-04-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by aly
He could probably find one in a shelter or rescue group if he kept his eye out. I know I've seen some come through my shelter.
yes onlyif they were a puppy though because we want it to grow up with Oscar,and we dont want a male either,because of dominace issues. but I think he might think about going to a rescue for BMD,so thats good:D. we wont be getting it till I graduate and move out, so this could be alittle longer then next year.
wolfsoul
07-04-2003, 11:23 PM
· Bernese Mountain Dogs have historically worked as drovers, draft dogs and watchdogs in the farmlands of the canton of Berne.
http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/bermtn.cfm
He is intelligent, strong and agile enough to do the draft and droving work for which he was used in the mountainous regions of his origin.
http://pets.yahoo.com/pets/dogs/breed/bernese_mountain_dog
In addition, I have been recently approved to be the GSMDCA delegate to the AKC, and as such I will endeavor to propose that the AKC establish a unified set of draft rules to be used by all draft breeds, with the hope that one day there will be the opportunity for Swissys and Rottweilers and Berners and Newfs and other draft breeds to be tested side-by-side for an AKC Draft title.
http://www.gsmdca.org/draft_page.htm
He has also been used as a draft animal for pulling carts for farmers and weavers. He is a hardy dog with great strength and endurance
http://www.hoflin.com/BR/Bernese%20Mountain%20Dogs
You see, this dog is clearly a breed that was originally bred for many purposes, including drafting. :)
I was going to look on petfinder for them but i forget where she lives hehe
She lives in the Okanagan :D (Kelowna, Westbank, Vernon, Peachland, Summerland, Penticton, Winflield, Oyama, any of those and more lol)
wolfsoul
07-04-2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
Hmm.....this is awfully odd! I see on the British Columbia pest control website they state this:
Raccoons are classified as furbearers under the Wildlife Act, and may be trapped in season by registered trappers who have a valid trapping licence. If you are in an area that is open to the discharge of firearms and you have a valid hunting licence, raccoons may be legally hunted. However, if you are in an area where the use of firearms is prohibited, raccoons may not be captured or killed without a permit.
When you break that down into easy terms I believe it says that raccoons can be hunted in British Columbia. BC Site (http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/epd/epdpa/ipmp/Brochures/racoons.htm)
Here is a link to many many other sites which claim it is legal: [URL=http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?invocationType=bottomsearchbox.%2Faol%2Fjsp %2Fsearch.jsp&query=Raccoon+hunting+in+British+ColumbiaClick Here[/URL]
:) :) :) :) :) :)
Ahh....ok....I get it now.
Thanks! :D My dad told me that it was illegal to hunt racoons, possums, skunks, and other small critters...Guess he was wrong haha. Well, i'm not going to correct him, or the racoons in his back yard are goners! :eek:
Well, we haven't had BMD puppies, but we have had some really cute Great Pyranees and St. Bernard pups. Anything's possible so have him keep his eyes on the rescues :)
And he may just fall in love with a BMD mix pup.
binka_nugget
07-04-2003, 11:59 PM
Here's a link to a rescue in Vancouver. http://www.canineconsulting.com/bella.htm
Here's her pic..
http://www.canineconsulting.com/images/rescue/odd_pics/1bella-1.jpg
Isn't she a doll? although, she is a mix (labXBmd I believe) and 4...lol...oh well, you never know.
tikeyas_mom
07-05-2003, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by aly
Well, we haven't had BMD puppies, but we have had some really cute Great Pyranees and St. Bernard pups. Anything's possible so have him keep his eyes on the rescues :)
And he may just fall in love with a BMD mix pup. maybe!! :D
cocker_luva
07-05-2003, 02:34 PM
i read in DogFancy that you have to buy special food for bernese mountain dogs. because when they grow their weight does a job on their legs. the food is supposed to help strengthen their bones so they can support their enormous weight.
~just to let you (and your dad) know. :)
GoldenRetrLuver
07-05-2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by cocker_luva
i read in DogFancy that you have to buy special food for bernese mountain dogs. because when they grow their weight does a job on their legs. the food is supposed to help strengthen their bones so they can support their enormous weight.
~just to let you (and your dad) know. :)
I remember reading that too....
Layka3000
07-25-2003, 08:03 PM
Cool.... you are so lucky I dont even have a dog because I live in a apartment and byw my mom has thins thing for animals....
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