harmful foods???

[CamCamPup33]

i was just wondering what food or foods can harm your dog? i know choclate and a few others but i really dont know it all.. so if u guys can help me out a bit? lol i need to know what not to feed cami.. lol :D

[binka_nugget]

I've heard that onions, garlic and anti-freeze (although it's not a food lol) harm dogs. I heard somewhere that apple seeds are bad...although I don't think many people feed their dogs apple seeds for meals lol...Kai eats whatever I eat lol....except the junk foods.

[wolfsoul]

I know grapes are no good. And mushrooms...and anything with caffiene....there's more lol, I just can't think today :o :rolleyes:

[lv4dogs]

Raisins are bad too! & I think I read somewhere that potatoes are harmful too? Can't remember.

[wolfsoul]

I just remembered pork! lol. Pork is badd too :D

[Kater]

Macadamia Nuts
Avacados
Coffee & Tea

[binka_nugget]

Originally posted by wolfsoul
I just remembered pork! lol. Pork is badd too :D

uh oh.. no more pork for kai...

[Kfamr]

Pork is bad??

How/where did you hear this?

I'd like to read up on it.

[lv4dogs]

Originally posted by Kfamr
Pork is bad??

How/where did you hear this?

I'd like to read up on it.

I too would like some info on that.

[Kater]

The thing to worry is about FATTY cuts of pork, not lean pork or pig ears.

"Foods high in sodium (especially peanuts and chips) and other fatty foods like poultry skin and beef or pork fat can cause an inflammation of the pancreas. Pancreatitis is a potentially life-threatening condition."
http://www.goodnewsbroadcast.com/petsense1201.html

More on pancreatitis:
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2&cat=1580&articleid=335*

"Rich, fatty foods, such as turkey skin, bacon, sausages, hot dogs, fruit cake, plum pudding, or deep-fried foods can be quite dangerous to dogs susceptible to attacks of pancreatitis. Often you may not know that your dog is susceptible until he is very sick with his first attack. As breed predispositions go, it is often the smaller, more energetic breeds like miniature or toy poodles, cocker spaniels, miniature schauzers, and other small terrier-type dogs who seem particularly prone. However, any dog may have a problem. It is best to avoid these foods altogether. Signs of pancreatitis generally include an acute onset of vomiting (sometimes with diarrhea) and abdominal pain, which may be evidenced as a hunched posture or "splinting" of the abdomen when picked up. The dog may become very sick quickly and often needs intensive fluid and antibiotic therapy."
http://www.dog.com/vet/holidays/04.html

"Grease or pork products also have made many dogs end up in the hospital . A sudden high amount of fat or grease can cause pancreatitis. Pancreatitis is an infection or inflammation of the pancreas which in turn causes a malfunction of this important organ. It is indeed life threatening . If not treated properly the dog could die or if he survives could later become diabetic. The pancreas is the organ that produces digestive enzymes and also produces insulin. So if it is damaged, serious consequences could occur. You notice that you don’t see pork products in dog food. You see pig’s ears on the market but they are just cartilage and are very much dried until little fat is left."
http://www.tsev.com/pets/oct99.html

"Q.) We recently had our dog treated for a serious, expensive stomach disease caused by eating pork. Could you let your readers know that pork is toxic to dogs and should never be fed to them? Thanks.

A.) I assume your pet suffered from severe gastroenteritis or pancreatitis( an inflammatory disease of the pancreas that can be fatal) from eating table scraps containing pork. Pancreatitis in particular has been know to be triggered by feeding left-overs laced with fatty meat trimmings.
Pork is not however, any more dangerous than beef or chicken for pets if it is part of a well balanced diet. In most cases that means feeding your pet a ready-to-eat dog food. Trouble arises when well meaning owners add meat( and fat-the real culprit in causing digestive upsets and disease) to a diet that is already complete and well balanced. So while pork can be a good source of protein and nutritious for your pet in the proper diet, viewing dangerous table scraps and fatty meats as toxic may be good advice."
http://www.abelkeppy.com/pt52.html

[CamCamPup33]

i read up on this website and it said grapes are fine? I also read that raw potatoes not cooked are good too.. heres the website.


http://wv.essortment.com/feedingpet_rfsg.htm

[Kfamr]

Thanks for the info. No more cooking extra bacon for Sim or Nala. :( I can always cook Simba's favorite... scrambled eggs. :D

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by Kfamr
Pork is bad??

How/where did you hear this?

I'd like to read up on it.

Sorry for the late reply lol. I was just looking through old threads and saw this. :o

Pork isn't good unless it's organic, like without preservatives, because the preservatives they put in it that make it safe for humans make it toxic for dogs.

[Christiansmommy]

Onions are bad. Over time they can cause a dog to develope anemia. Not that i would be feeding my dog onions...just what i have heard.

[stacwase]

I just learned from the people here on pet talk that cooked bones are bad because they can splinter and cause damage to the intestines - but raw bones are OK!

[stacwase]

Oh - I tried to read it but it was "inaccessible". Sorry for misquoting you. But all those people who use the BARF diet feed raw bones all the time, and they say they it's safe. ?? Maybe it would be safer just to stay away from bones altogether.

[cali]

raw bones are completely safe, COOKED bones splinter cooked bones are brittle, raw bones are soft and pliable, and if someone does not feel comforable feeding raw bones they can always be ground up.:)

[binka_nugget]

I guess none of us can really prove whether raw or cooked bones are safe. There are risks when feeding anything to your dog though...even kibble. It's not exactly something you hear every day that a dog just died from choking on kibble..but it's always a very very very small possibility.

I've stopped with feeding kai bones for now. I want to have more vet opinions first before I continue...so I'm feeding Innova.

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by cali
raw bones are completely safe, COOKED bones splinter cooked bones are brittle, raw bones are soft and pliable, and if someone does not feel comforable feeding raw bones they can always be ground up.:)

These are all X-rayed pictures of dogs who have eaten raw bones.

http://www.thepetcenter.com/xra/bones1.jpg
http://www.thepetcenter.com/xra/bones2.jpg
http://www.thepetcenter.com/xra/bones4.jpg
http://www.thepetcenter.com/xra/bones5.jpg

Bones break, whether they are cooked or raw...Some dogs have jaw strength rates of 2000 pounds per square inch. 2000 pounds is enough to break and splinter any bone.

[wolfsoul]

More...

http://www.thepetcenter.com/xra/boneE.jpg
http://www.thepetcenter.com/xra/bones3.jpg

[Christiansmommy]

WOW!!! Those pics are pretty severe. It does make you wonder, after seeing those pics, if raw bones are safer...hmmmmmmmm...i will put some thought into it.... thanks for posting.

Robyn

[stacwase]

Thanks for posting the x-rays. Are those the ones you had tried to link to before?

I have just noticed how much Max LOVES to eat them - it seems like he has a craving for them. Maybe it's a craving for calcium? He could probably get that from other sources.

[oodlesofpoodles]

Any seasoned table food is bad. My dogs never get table food. Also to many milk bones can be bad. Think about a snickers candy bar one milkbone is the same So if you feed 4 milkbones to your dog it is like you eating 4 snicker candy bars. sounds fatting to me. but I do like snickers just not 4 at one time. I feed my dogs baby carrots for treats and they love them and it is healthy for them

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by stacwase
Thanks for posting the x-rays. Are those the ones you had tried to link to before?

Yes, those are the pics I was trying to show your before. :) I really wish that there was a 100% safety factor in feeding bones, I think that would be great, but I belive it is just too risky. I think that nylon bones would be safer. :)

I was researching on bones a while back, and I read that sled dogs are fed a huge tub of fish slop, still with the bones in it, and when they were all done, you would see that all of the slop would be gone, but all the bones would be in the tub still. They have the instinct not to eat them. I've also read that many people argue that wolves eat bones, and it is good for them -- but how often do you see a wolf, let alone a healthy one? I read that when 27 wolves were taken from the wild, all 27 of them tested positive for heartworm. And if a wolf is very hungry, they may dispatch of their dead packmate, so you'd never be able to tell if it died from bones or not. There is also barely any nutritional value..some calcium, and some protien from the marrow. But you have to be careful not to give too much calcium anyways, because you may risk making the calcium intake to much higher that the phosphorus intake and completely mess up a dog's health. :)

[stacwase]

Yeah - I don't think wolves livespans are very long in the wild, because of all the hardship they endure. Where I live, we do see them very frequently but most are young. The biggest one I've ever seen was around 110-120 lbs but most are only around 70-80 lbs. So saying it's OK for a dog to eat something, just because wolves do, doesn't make sense. Thanks again for the x-rays.

[Kater]

What NOT to Feed Your Pet:
http://www.vetcentric.com/magazine/magazineArticle.cfm?ARTICLEID=930

Human Foods that are “Safe” to Sneak to Your Pet:
http://www.vetcentric.com/magazine/magazineArticle.cfm?ARTICLEID=747

WARNING: Grapes Could Kill Your Dog:
http://www.vetcentric.com/magazine/magazineArticle.cfm?ARTICLEID=1394

[tikeyas_mom]

Chocolate!!!!!

Onions..........

Tooth past lol


I am not sure what eles..

[*LabLoverKEB*]

I read somewhere that tomatoes are bad for dogs.

[wolfsoul]

I forgot to mention raw egg whites -- dogs can't digest them, and when they are served without the yolk, they bind biotin and make it unusable to the body.

[wolf_Q]

Originally posted by oodlesofpoodles
Also to many milk bones can be bad. Think about a snickers candy bar one milkbone is the same So if you feed 4 milkbones to your dog it is like you eating 4 snicker candy bars. sounds fatting to me. but I do like snickers just not 4 at one time. I feed my dogs baby carrots for treats and they love them and it is healthy for them

I've never heard anything about milkbones being that bad or fattening to dogs. Do you have more info on this? I give Nebo one large milkbone in his kong every day, as well as half a small one in each bowl of food. He's certainly not fat.