Problem dog

[Orlando Bloom's Gal]

My dog Kiki, who is a Papillon X. We adopted him last august, at the end of summer holidays. He was not fixed when we got him. We got him fixed in October. Before he was fixed, he was fine with other dogs and people. Since he was fixed, he's become VERY aggressive with other dogs and other people, even if he got along with them before he was fixed. Has anyone else here had this problem?

[Karen]

Gosh, that the opposite of what usually happens! Are there certain situations he's aggresive in?

[Orlando Bloom's Gal]

Not really. If he sees or hears another dog, he starts barking and growling. Or, if he sees someone or some people just waslking along, he's attemp to lung at them. Also, if we have someone over, he barks and barks at them, and if they try to take a step from the front door, to the hall, he'll go for their ankles.

[puppygrrl4eva7]

My cat was the same way, she used to be so sweet but after she was spayed she was and still is very cautious around people. If she lets you pet her that's luckey but if you pet her near her stomach she'll claw you and hiss and sometimes bite.

[babolaypo65]

How old was kiki when you got him and how old is he now?

[Orlando Bloom's Gal]

Kiki was about 2 and 1/2. He is now 3 and 1/2.

[Cheshirekatt]

Usually the time at which dog/dog aggression is going to show is between 2 and 3 years old. Sounds like you should work on some extra training. :)

Good luck!

[Orlando Bloom's Gal]

He's so stubborn. He will only do things for my dad:( I can't get him to do a thing for me. I'm also trying train him as a 4-H dog for other kids to use. I have e-mail Dr. Stanely Coren about his behavior, and Dr. Coren said it was most likely he was not socialized properly as a pup. I agree. Also, at his last obedience class, he tried to bite my friend's Standard Poodle on the nose! I don't know what to do with him. He'll attemp to bite anyone who tries to pet him if they are not me, my mom, my dad, or my sister. But once he gets used to someone being in the house for a while, he will calm down.

[Karen]

You might take another obedience class with him - you and him. He needs to learn that YOU are the big dog here, not him. Walk him, work with him, another class will help with socializing, especially if you talk to the instructor first.

[Orlando Bloom's Gal]

I know the instructor of the class, as she is one of the moms of two girls in the Junior Kennel club in our area. I might try another one if he doesn't improve soon.

[lovemyshiba]

I'm sure another training class will help. My Kito wasn't socialized properly as a pup either--he can handle other dogs, but he cannot meet them while he is leashed--he goes crazy!!! If he meets them off leash, he's fine, unless they're small. He does well with all of the dogs we need him too, my parents, my mother in laws, and ours, but I usually cross the street if there's another dog coming on our walks.

[Orlando Bloom's Gal]

Leashed or unleashed, Kiki can't meet other dogs. He'll try to bite, snap, and he will lunge. I won't take him off leash becsue he does have a tendancy to run of. he's done it before. Just if he sees a dog and that dog is all friendly and wagging it's tail, he's snarling and barking, and trying to jump at them.

[janiceruth]

He just hasn't learned that he is not top dog. It will take a lot of time on your part, working with him. Correct him when things are not acceptable, keep rewards with you when he does even the tiniest good thing. Keep him crated after he has done a bad thing. Go to one or two behavorial classes, discuss with the instructor that you are there to UNlearn some bad habits BE persistant.....He loves you, but he thinks more of himself at this time and knows he can get away with it.


;)

[Orlando Bloom's Gal]

Even keeping treats with me will not work. He gets distracted so easly. He knows who's top dog in our house, and that's my dad. The problem is, my parents are not willing to take him to behavior classed.:(

[janiceruth]

If you have any Independent Income and Kiki is your dog you can get into behavioral training on your own. Why do you think you need your parents permission to do what is right for you and you dog.
You asked for help with this dog, are you willing to try some of the suggestions?

[Pokidia]

Our dog Sparky was such a sweet little pup, friendly towards all dogs and humans, then at about 8 months old we had him desexed. His behaviour straight after the op was very unusual - he often sat in a corner staring at the wall, he was very sad and lethargic. The change in his behaviour worried me and I took him back the the vets twice and they assured me he would get over it. After about 3 weeks he did get over it but with a totally different change - he has since been very agressive with other dogs :mad: and barks all the time at every little noise and often at nothing at all. I wonder whether we made the right choice in having him fixed :confused:

[lizbud]

Having a dog neutered or spayed has nothing whatever to
do with a dog's being aggressive or non agressive. Training
or lack of it has everything to do with it. Blaming a dog's
aggression on neutering is like saying there's no hope,or use
in trying to fix the problem. The problem behavior can be "fixed"
and it involves commitment & work by it's owner & a good
training instructor. Good luck with your dog.

[Pokidia]

Lizbud,

I know that training can help with many types of problems our pets present us with and I'm sure that there is hope for most of them if we are willing to put in the time and effort. However, there were definite personality changes in our dog after he was desexed. The fact that certain hormonal changes take place in our pets after this operation may explain the change in their behaviour.

[Orlando Bloom's Gal]

I'm not blaming it on the neutering, I'm just say his was very friendly with other dogs and people before his neutering, and EXTERMLY aggressive afterwards. He's extremly stubborn. I don't know how to get him to stop being so stubborn, and maybe to get him to like me more than my dad becasue my dad didn't want another dog in the first place, and Kiki is very attached to him, and no one else. Is there anyway I can work the stubborness out of him?

[lizbud]

I think I was wrong in emphasizing training alone as the
only answer to aggression problems. Many cases of aggression
are due to medical reasons. There are 50 know medical problems
that can have aggression as a symptom & 13 different kinds of
dog aggression. Here's a link to some types of aggression;

http://www.allbreed.net/chows/Train/aggrtype.htm

and one article on just one of the medical problems that can
be involved.

http://www.petplace.com/articles/artShow.asp?artID=1807

I think anytime there is a marked change in behavior, a good
checkup be your Vet is a good idea.

[Orlando Bloom's Gal]

When we did take him for his last vet check up, the vet said he is definately dominant, and that we should take him to a behaviour specialist. The only problem is, my parents are not willing to take him. The second link link that you put, doesn't have anything do to with my dogs aggression. I don't know whether it was the "not being allowed for walks for two weeks" after the neutering or what. He lived with another dog before he was turned over to the Humane Society, but the other little dog was adopted by the time we got there.