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tikeyas_mom
06-11-2003, 12:39 PM
I am sooo incredibly sad right now, you have no idea. As most of you know I have the WORST allergies right now and my hamsters and gerbils beddings are causing them to be worse. http://smilies.crowd9.com/contrib/dday/nope.gif.
My mom said she is going to buy yeasterdays news cat litter and see if my allergies let up, if they dont, then I am forsed to give all my rodents away !!!!! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/otn/sad/bncry.gif.
I am freaking out here, I cryed. I dont want to give them away . I have had them so long, I love them so much. I hate this. I cant even take meds because I am on Zoloft and that would react to antihistomys. http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/cwm/3dlil/cry.gif....
I have had Spur *hamster* for 4 years, I love him with all my heart, I have been through 2 litters with Cuddles, and Whisky is my rescued hamster, Why does this have to happen to me??? http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/kao/otn/ptamaen.gif

Aspen and Misty
06-11-2003, 01:10 PM
o this is so sad! Isn't there anything else you can do? :(

Ash

popcornbird
06-11-2003, 01:19 PM
Oh no! :(:(:( How so very sad! :( What did your doctor say? Is there any way you can put them in another room? That's just so horrible. :(:(:( If you've had them for so many years, didn't you have any allergic reaction before? :confused: The only rodents you got recently were the gerbils. Do you think you could be allergic to them only and not the hammies? :confused: :( :( :(

cali
06-11-2003, 01:35 PM
one word: SAND, my gerbils are allergic to bedding so they are housed in sand, they love and are a LOT calmer in it:) and i dont see why hamsters coul dnot be housed in sand, it is VERY cheap, only needs changed every 6 mos. or so, all you do to clean it is sift out the poops basicly, try it, it means the difference between keeping them or not:) i use traction sand i find it works the best, although i have used play sand as well:cool:

tomkatzid
06-11-2003, 01:40 PM
So sorry to hear this. Will all med's like Zoloft react to the Antihistamines? Maybe your Dr. knows of another drug that would work, another Zoloft type or another antihistamine type. It may be worth asking. DO NOT stop taking your med's. Maybe this new bedding will work. We will keep our paws crossed for you.:)

tikeyas_mom
06-11-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by popcornbird
Oh no! :(:(:( How so very sad! :( What did your doctor say? Is there any way you can put them in another room? That's just so horrible. :(:(:( If you've had them for so many years, didn't you have any allergic reaction before? :confused: The only rodents you got recently were the gerbils. Do you think you could be allergic to them only and not the hammies? :confused: :( :( :(

they are in another room right now, but my mom doesnt want to care for them, and they are in the darkness all day. I cant even go near the cages without sneezing to death.

I never had an allergick reaction befor, But every single one of my cousins have deveoped allergies when they were around 16-17 years old.

I think it is the dust in the bedding not the actuall gerbils and hamsters, but I dont know what eles I can do other then change the bedding.

I dont think the sand isdea is a good one, because it isnt digestible.

cali
06-11-2003, 03:47 PM
sand should not be a problem, it IS there natural habitat after all, or you can also use polor fleece towels/blankets, you can cut a bunch of peices to the size of the cage/tank that way to clean it all ya gotta do is lift and the old one and pop in the new one, i know several people who do this because of their own bedding allergies:)

CathyBogart
06-11-2003, 06:45 PM
I'm allergic to pine, carefresh, and several other beddings. I've had the best luck with Aspen, Cellsorb, and just plain towels (although the towels have to be changed and washed daily with the rats) I've also heard good things about using newspaper (with soy-based ink), and paper towels (Again with the changing daily)

Also, why not use a large-grain sand so you don't have to worry about them eating it? I've seen a lot of gerbil setups where they used sand or sandy soil, and the gerbils really seem to enjoy digging in it. I'd probably just go with newspaper for the hamsters: it's cheap, easy to get, and they'll love shredding it.

Edit: Don't give up after trying just ONE other bedding, try as many as you can until you either find one that works or find out that it is the critters after all.

Cookiebaker
06-11-2003, 06:53 PM
are you sure your allergies aren't just a result of spring/summertime??? It hardly seems fair to give up on your pets only for your allergies. Is it life threatening? It very well could be for your pets if they get into the wrong hands. Just a thought.

wolfsoul
06-11-2003, 06:57 PM
Don't give them away!!! :( :eek: :( There are solutions out there, for sure there are! Go to the doctor and get tested before you fret over any of this...And then, when you figure out what is stimulating the allergies, you can get rid of it, or if it isn't riddable, than you could take the necessary precautions to make sure that you are as happy as can be :)

You'll have to vacuum alot. Even if it isn't the dust you are allergic to, it still helps.

You can take special needles that can help.

Buy inhalers.

Got to the hospital and get tested for asthma. Astma and allergies have alot to do with one another, strange as it may be...And if it comes out positive, than you can treat the asthma and the allergies might go away.

It's not AT ALL uncommon for someone to develop allergies to animals later in life. I've read of people who have had pets their entire lives, and then suddenly develop an allergy 20-30 years later :eek:

Best of hope, my pets send their love and luck :)

popcornbird
06-11-2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Cookiebaker
are you sure your allergies aren't just a result of spring/summertime??? It hardly seems fair to give up on your pets only for your allergies. Is it life threatening? It very well could be for your pets if they get into the wrong hands. Just a thought.

That's what I was wondering. My dad gets allergies in the spring, but its not because of the birds. Its because of the pollen and he always had it even before we got them. Is it possible for a friend to care for them until your allergy season is over? (You didn't have it a few months ago, so I'm wondering how you got allergies all of a sudden unless its seasonal. ) :confused: Maybe the thing is you have too many cages in your room. Personally, I would never keep that many cages in a bedroom, no matter how big it is. You shouldn't breathe that stuff all day, all night. Can't you relocate them to another room? :confused: Is your house tiny that that's not possible? :confused:

wolfsoul
06-11-2003, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by popcornbird
Personally, I would never keep that many cages in a bedroom, no matter how big it is. You shouldn't breathe that stuff all day, all night. Can't you relocate them to another room? :confused: Is your house tiny that that's not possible? :confused:

Her room is VERY big, the cages aren't near her bed, and they are all grouped together, save for one. I don't think that it's the amount of cages at all...

The cages are in a different room right now, they are in the basement I think she said? :confused:

tikeyas_mom
06-11-2003, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Cookiebaker
are you sure your allergies aren't just a result of spring/summertime??? It hardly seems fair to give up on your pets only for your allergies. Is it life threatening? It very well could be for your pets if they get into the wrong hands. Just a thought.

I dont know it seems to act up worse when I am around their cages. and it isnt my choise it is my moms. :(

tikeyas_mom
06-11-2003, 07:33 PM
I have a 4 bedroom house. I cant pout them anywhere. I have them in my TV room right now, there is no windows and no lighs .. i dont know what eles to do bcause I cannot be around them. I have to get my brother to bring cardbord to the gerbils and see if all the rodents have food and water. I hate this soo much.

Cookiebaker
06-11-2003, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
I dont know it seems to act up worse when I am around their cages. and it isnt my choise it is my moms. :(

I really don't mean any offense or anything, but it really is your choice. What I mean is, how bad are your allergies, really? I have really bad allergies this time of year, and yes they are exacerbated by having my pets around. My eyes are runny, I sneeze a hundred times a day, I'm constantly blowing my nose, my throad and ears itch and yes, it's very annoying. But I live with it, and I play with my pets all the same.

Your mom is probably saying that you have to get rid of them because you are constantly complaining about your allergies or something. So don't complain, and show/prove to your Mom that you can take care of your responsibilites and live with your allergies. Or make the responsible decsion that hamsters and gerbils and rats don't live with your lifesyle (read allergies) and find a warm and loving home that won't give them up due to allergies.

apcrs5122
06-11-2003, 07:42 PM
How so very sad! I use Carefresh whis is recycled newpaper for my piggies, and it's great (a little on the costly side;not really, but great). Hope you can keep your babies!

tikeyas_mom
06-11-2003, 07:45 PM
my allergies consist of itchy throut and eyes, itchy nose and upper mouth. runny, puffy, sore eyes and always sneezing 24/7.. I cant sleep in my room. I have to have a fan blowing on my face all the time. I have used up 3 1/2 toilet paper rolls. I cannot sleep, I have headaches and muscle pains. I cannot breat through my nose or mouth, I force my self to breath through my moth even though my throut herts so bad. It isnt my fricking faul. I took your post very offensive, you seem to think I am the bad guy here. You obviously dont know how much I love and care for my rodents. :mad:

popcornbird
06-11-2003, 07:46 PM
I know that for people who are allergic to birds, giving them a shower daily helps. Maybe you can change the bedding to something more suitable and bathe the animals more often. :confused:

tikeyas_mom
06-11-2003, 07:48 PM
I know that for people who are allergic to birds, giving them a shower daily helps. Maybe you can change the bedding to something more suitable and bathe the animals more often.

No I cannot give my rodent bathes more often because HAMSTERS cannot get wet. I said my mom was going to get me yesterdays news and try that. They dont sell carefresh bedding here. Aspen and pine are the ones giving my allergies along with the toilet paper and shredded news paper.

wolfsoul
06-11-2003, 07:57 PM
Tikeyas_mom is right, hamsters can't get wet. It can contribute to wet tail, stress, as well as other illnesses.

Also, she can't use towels / rags. The hams/gerbils will stuff it in thier cheeks and can choke on it.

Don't fret too much, sometimes your allergies appear in summer and leave in other seasons. Try taking meds that can go with zoloft. Call the doctor, make an appointment, and really, like I said, getting checked for asthma really helps. It's what I did. :) I have an inhaler that is for allergies, I can give it to you, but I don't want to unless your doctor says it is okay...;)

tikeyas_mom
06-11-2003, 08:06 PM
My allergies have been letting up today but I still had to reply on how I felt yersterday. it was horrid. I just found out *from a pharmasits* that I can take a med calledBenydril, and it helps. pluse it nokes you out *to sleep*.. I am so happy for that. But I am scared to go see my rodents incase I will react again..

popcornbird
06-11-2003, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
My allergies have been letting up today but I still had to reply on how I felt yersterday. it was horrid. I just found out *from a pharmasits* that I can take a med calledBenydril, and it helps. pluse it nokes you out *to sleep*.. I am so happy for that. But I am scared to go see my rodents incase I will react again..

Benydril is good. My dad takes that when he gets allergies.

Another thing my dad does is first thing in the morning he eats 1 spoon of honey with black pepper sprinkled on it. He says it helps, but you have to eat it everyday, first thing in the morning with an empty stomach. You might want to try that. Even if you don't like the taste, if it works, its better than giving your pets away. :(:(

tikeyas_mom
06-11-2003, 08:16 PM
I'll try that popcornbird thanks !!

Karen
06-11-2003, 09:38 PM
Have you talked to your doctor???????

CathyBogart
06-11-2003, 10:40 PM
My sister takes honey, but I've never heard of putting pepper on it. 0.o Sounds icky, but I wouldn't be surprised if it helps.

Fox-Gal
06-12-2003, 12:21 AM
So Sorry you might have to get rid of your babies. I really think it's a good idea to try a new bedding. The sand is a good idea, but if your worried about them eating it, try looking into new beddings at your pet store. The have natural rocks (small size) for fish, crushed coal (fish also) or even the bedding they use for Igunans. Some where there got to be some other kind of bedding you can use.

Good luck to you.

By the way I to have bad allergies and take Benydril. My Dr. told me that if you take them every day even if your not have a problem that day it's better. The Med. build up in your system, and it's really worked great for me. After awhile I starting felling "normal" again and have cut back to one pill a day every day and no more problems. Get the sinus and headach Benydril, works better for the ach.

aly
06-12-2003, 02:09 AM
:o :o If you're allergic to toilet paper... what do you use... for um.. you know... after pottying :o

I would see my doctor ASAP and find out which meds can be taken together. You may need something stronger than Benadryl.

NoahsMommy
06-12-2003, 02:20 AM
Benadryl IS an antihistamine. Its the antihistamine that MAKES you sleepy. If you can take Benadryl with your Zoloft, you can take almost any allergy medication. If you are truely concerned and want to keep your little furries, check out a prescription allergy nose spray. They've been proven to stop allergies with time....

aly
06-12-2003, 10:07 AM
What about Claritin? Isn't that over the counter now?

tikeyas_mom
06-12-2003, 10:40 AM
I cannot take claritin or allegra. I dont know why I can take Benydril, The pharmisits says it is ok with zoloft. :confused:.

I use toilet paper after the potty lol.

I use toilet paper as my gerbils bedding and they shred it and it gets dusty, then I get the allergies.

shellonabeach
06-14-2003, 11:06 AM
I don't know anything about Zoloft but I did do a quick google search - what I found was all rather anti-zoloft and some side effects sound rather similar to your allergies - dizzyness, migraines, flu-like symptoms etc etc. They also say that coming off them is twice as bad.

http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/Forum45/HTML/000096.html

I also found that anti-depressants such as zoloft should not be combined with Astemizole (Hismanal) antihistamines.

Again as has been said before your mother jumps the gun and all your pets go how about getting an accurate allergy test done. I also think if it were the pets that caused such a problem why does the dander from the 2 dogs and cat not cause any problems?

But in the same sentence if you cannot play with your pets then they can't be happy, so perhaps a good home is the best option.

RubyMutt
06-14-2003, 12:04 PM
My mom is severely allergic to cats. About as allergic to cats as you can get. It's a long story on how this happened, but a cat did come to live with us. My mom was almost always on Benadryl. Poor woman :( Always drowsy & tired, but it was able to keep her allergies under control around the cat.
However, my boyfriend gets horrible allergies this time of year. He has taken nearly every allergy medicine available and nothing works! His doctor says the only way he could get rid of them would be to get some sort of steroid shot! :eek: It's rather expensive & my bf doesn't have medical insurance right now (:() so the poor guy is miserable :( Thankfully he's usually only like this for about one month out of the year.
Good luck with everything T_M!! I hope you find something that works for you! I know you love your hammis and gerbils, it would be horrible if you had to give them away! :(

wolfsoul
06-14-2003, 12:10 PM
She informed me yesterday that her allergies are almost gone! :D The benedryl must be working...

No time to get rid of animals...get some more..;) lol

Nomilynn
06-14-2003, 07:50 PM
About the Zoloft/allergy thing..

Most antidepressants can NOT be mixed with any decongestants. Antihistamines are ok, but any medication that has any kind of decongestant is dangerous. I don't know why that is, it's just what both my doctor and my pharmacist told me :)

I don't have any advice about the bedding or anything, I just wanted to clear that part up :)

tikeyas_mom
06-15-2003, 12:33 AM
thats what I ment I jusrt got the big words mixed up lol.. I am bad with that ;)