new cats

[marysmerrycats]

I have 2 new cats, males, here tonight. they are in a bedroom by themselves, and the other cats and I are in the rest of the house, I am sleeping in the living room tonight.

these cats are BEAUTIFUL!! I will post pics soon... both are longhair, white, one has orange spots and the other one, has dark grey or black spots.

I have always known my kitties are very good cats, but I found out again tonight just how good they are...those 2 are wild! hissing and spitting like! I have never heard it that bad before. I know they are scared, but wow!

I was not impressed in the least by the previous owners... they brought them tonight, no carrier, just each holding one... and nothing with them...which is ok since I have everything I need for them, extra box and food etc. I guess it is just that I would do it so different if I had to give away my cats(I don't even want to think of having to do such a thing) I would want them to have their familiar things.. oh I can't even stand to think of it... my cats will be with me forever, til they or I die! no matter where I go, they will be with me!
one of the cats scratched me on the face, drew blood! guess I learned my lesson for holding him! and then later he scratched the lady! the other one watched them leave , sat at the screen door and watched as they walked away.. it was very sad, I don't think they people were too bothered, well maybe they were, but I felt so sad watching the cat sit there looking!

I don't know if I did the right thing by bringing them into this house, they swatted at cassie, the only one friendly or brave enough to get near them! I got them in to the bedroom as soon as possible, and kept Cassie away from them.

well this is going to be interesting... will post again soon and let you all know how it is going.

[AmberLee]

Sigh. So sorry you and they are having such trauma. Fingers and paws crossed here for you that things settle down quickly.

[marysmerrycats]

so now there are 4 boys and 3 girls in the house, first time ever that the boys have outnumberd the girls!

I have a question, I wasn't sure if I should post it here or in cat behavior...anyway, I have checked on the new cats a couple times, and they are not together... when Emma and Louise were new to the household, they stuck together, these 2 don't, and they are 2 year old littermates, isn't that unusual? or not? now I'm wondering if they wouldnt be bothered by being separated?
well I have only had them a few hours, I know it will take time for them to adjust, but if anyone has any ideas on the matter of them not sticking together ...? :confused:
also.. I am staying away from them tonight(other than checking on them a few times) and then I thought I would spend some time in the room tomorrow, not bothering them just being in there so they could slowly get used to me...

new update... I just went in there to check on them for the last time tonight, and one was still under the bed but did not hiss when I peeked, and the one ON the bed only hissed when I came too close, but they both have those beautiful, sweet eyes, they are just frightened! I think they are going to be little sweethearts when they adjust... I think I am already falling for them. tomorrow I will just go in there and wait for them to come to me. earlier, the one actually touched noses with Cassie before he hissed and swatted. i wasn't happy about the contact, but it was before I could get them into the bedroom. I asked the people, and they said they don't have any upper respiratory, I hope thats true!. anyway Im out of luck with the medical records!
:mad:

[PayItForward]

How exciting for you and your new kitties.

I hope they settle in well & quickly.

Photos, Photos :D :D

[jenluckenbach]

Just because cats are litter mates does not mean they actually LIKE each other. And cats that live together may not even like each other (just ask Logan). So it does not surprise me that they are not together.
They WILL swipe at and attack your cats at this stage. I suggest NO contact until they are at least settled down themselves. And be prepared, this may take a while.
Good luck. What are their names (I don't think you said).

[HayleyRosie]

I hope they adjust quickly. It will probably take a few days. I can't wait to see some pictures. It sounds like they are beautiful.

[moosmom]

Mary,

Something tells me these cats haven't seen a vet in a while, if at all. And because there are no vet records, I hope you realize that you'll have to have them tested all over again for Feline Aids and Leukemia, as well as vaccinate them BOTH before they are exposed to your other cats.

[IttyBittyKitty]

Didn't those people show any emotion whatsover about leaving their kitties behind? I was devistated when I left home and moved to Brisbane, and left my two furbabies in their native home with Mum and my brother. Technically, they weren't being abandoned or anything, but I was just so sad to leave my two darlings behind. Good luck with the two boys and we are looking forward to some pics!

[marysmerrycats]

Jen and Donna
you are right. and I know I have to keep them separated.. which I am doing. my cats have calmed down now that I am doing the same schedule with them and staying with them! they are my first worry. and the new boys need time alone. my cats even got the crazies last night, it was cute! the only difference is the shut door, which Miss Cassie has already tried to open, I had to secure it(block it on the other side) and I did this just in time! so even if she should reach the handle and Im betting she will do it, the door will not open, and I have a side door outside to go in and out with. there will be NO contact, I am not going to see my babies hurt or catch a disease!

I want you 2 to know how much I appreciate your help and advice! I know you think Im wacky!

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

Congratulations on your new additions! I'm sure they are just scared, and like you say, they will be lovebugs once they settle in. Good luck with everything, and please do keep us updated....with pics of course. ;) :D

[batgirl1980]

Well congrats on your new additions. I know it will take some time for them, especially since it looks like the old owners couldn't be bothered with them in any way shape or form.

Definetely get them to the vets for a check up and shots, just to be safe.

BTW.. what are the names?? :D

[marysmerrycats]

ok, when I got home, after I fed my five, I went in to check on the 2 new ones... and one was so friendly! no more hissing, just a lovable kitty, rubbed against my legs and meowed, and meowed more! then he turned over and let me rub his tummy! still did not want to be picked up, but thats ok... and the other one never came out from under the bed... but I peeked again, he's ok. after a while I left them alone again.. . and then Patches and the one that was still hiding, were looking at each other... my bedroom glass doors and the glass doors in the den face each other with a common patio... so they could see each other! I think they were looking at one another for quite some time by time I noticed this... I went over to Patches and pet him, and talked to him and then he got up, and oh he had to stretch! you know how they do after they have been in the same position for a long time?

names? well I like Jack and Oscar. I think the white/tan/black one will be Jack and the orange and white one wil be Oscar (the grouch LOL)

will post pics as soon as I can...

[kimlovescats]

Congratulations on the new additions! As far as them not sticking together... don't worry about that! ANy time I have introduced a newcomer to my clan ... all the residents get nervous and hiss and slap at eachother like they are suddenly strangers to eachother! It's just nervousness .... it will wear off soon! Sounds like the one is already calming down!

GOOD LUCK!

;)

[marysmerrycats]

yeah, so I thought! well it will just take some time, its only been just over 24 hours. but after I posted about the one(Jack) being friendly, the next time I went in there he was scared and hissing again, and ran under the bed. but I got him to come back over to me and then I got him to play a little, no cat can resist a string toy!

and Oscar the grouch was peeking out from under the bed, ...I saw that nose!

but what really worries me is... Oscar hisses and swats at Jack, and now even when they are alone... I just heard a big REOW!! and hiss, and my five cats all ran over to the door or stood looking toward it!

do you think Oscar will attack Jack, if Jack tries to be close to him? should I put one in the den?? maybe Jack would come around faster without Oscar!??

advice please!!

[krazyaboutkatz]

Congrats on adopting Jack and Oscar!!!:D I'm sure they'll adjust soon. It just takes time. I do agree that you need to keep them separated from your other cats until you have them tested and their shots updated. Did you ask the owners if the two cats got along? As Jen had mentioned earlier, just beause they're littermates and live together doesn't mean they like each other. I'd also love to see pics. They sound gorgeous. :)

[Miss Meow]

Congrats! Some things aren't adding up, sounds like the former owner wasn't entirely truthful with you :( The boys will no doubt be better off in your care.

Good luck with the medicals - hope they are both healthy. Great names, by the way!

You might need to leave them together for a few more days at lesat to sort out what their relationship really is. If you separate them now, they'll need to be put together at a later stage anyway and they might get your other cats involved. Hmmm, not sure, please keep us all updated :)

[moosmom]

Mary,

You did a good thing by taking in your two boys. And I think Miss Meow was right when she said that the previous owner wasn't upfront with you. The best thing you can do for the boys right now is leave them be. Separating them at this point would be detrimental. They'd have to get reacquainted all over again. They're probably just scared and taking it out on each other. It's only natural.

Jen is also right in that not all littermates get along. Someone once told me that there is no such thing as "family reunions" with cats. I found that out the hard way when I brought Mollie Rose back to her birthplace in Vermont. I brought her over to her mama and thought they were going to make my arm into shredded wheat!! :p. I quickly learned my lesson.

Just give them time, patience and alot of love. Everyone will eventually come around.

One suggestion as far as their vaccinations is concerned...take them to a Petco, PetSmart or Pet Supplies Plus vaccination clinic for the vaccines. Vaccinate them for everything first time around. It'll be alot cheaper than a vet, although you'll still want to make sure they get a clean bill of health.

Good luck honey!!

[marysmerrycats]

thanks for all the helpeveryone!

Donna good idea about petco etc. I will look into that, thanks.

now just one more question (at least til I think of another one LOL)... when I do introduce them to the others, after they get a clean bill of health, any advice on that? I think they will go wild again, and it will be hard to put them into a room with 5 other cats, I don't want my cats hurt... so should I introduce them to one at a time, or what?:confused:
I know, I should have thought of that first but I did not want these cats to go to the humane society, or as one lady and I were talking about over the phone.. the death society.

also, I wonder if there is a chance these 2 are not littermates? they look alike, (long white fur ) but.. I guess I am just imagining that, since I don't believe the owner on anything she says.

she called yesterday while Iwas out, I was surprised by that, I thought oh she does care. but then she just wanted to know if she had left her bank card here since she couldn't find it.. hmm bank card...cats need shots..LOL anyway then I told her about them she didn't seem too interested.:(

[moosmom]

Mary,

What I've done in the past is stack baby gates in the door way so the cats can sniff and see each other, but are protected. I did that for about 2 weeks and then let them out supervised. I found baby gates at the Salvation Army so they were really cheap. If you have friends who have had little kids, they're likely to have them too. Another thing you can do is, once the baby gates are up, at mealtime, feed them near the door. This will let them have a pleasant experience.

That lady sounds like a real doozie. I'll bet dollars to donuts that they were NOT littermates.

[marysmerrycats]

Donna

again a great idea! thanks! I will do that.

[Uabassoon]

Mary I think I may have an extra baby gate floating around my house, but it's one of those that you have to screw into the doorway. But if you need it let me know.

[marysmerrycats]

one of my new cats, Jack Casey (Casey after moosmom's late Casey!) is really coming around, I just went in to the room again and he is a big lovebug!! I think he is ready to slowly be introduced to the other cats, AFTER his health checkup, there has been interest from BOTH sides of the door, they ( I think mostly Cassie,) is trying to get in to the bedroom, he hears her thumping against the door and runs over there! and he is starting to play with toys! one string toy he played with it with me and a toy mouse he played with on his own:D

as for Oscar, he has made himself comfy in THE LINING UNDER MY BOX SPRING! ah, well.. but I see now he is back at the window, looking into this room(den) and Emma and Louise are looking back!

[marysmerrycats]

just wanted to let you all know... Jack is getting better each time I visit him, the last time I checked on him, he let me touch his face and pet him on the head! hes just a big baby!:)

[Uabassoon]

I'm still waiting to see some pics :D :D :D And I'm glad to hear they are doing better.

[kimlovescats]

Hi!

I think you are definitely seeing some positive improvement. That's wonderful. I feel (like I stated earlier) that the two will eventually get along with eachother as well. Just try to give it more time!

I know it's hard not to get impatient!!! ;)

[krazyaboutkatz]

This is great news Mary. Thanks for the updates. :D As Kim has said it just takes time. I'm also waiting to see some pictures of them. Hint Hint :D

[marysmerrycats]

another update, on Oscar, he is friendly too now! and he also lets me touch his face and head, no problem, there was a screech out of them both earlier, because Oscar decided he wanted attention at the same time Jack did and he jumped on the dresser by Jack, well that caused some problem, I dont know why, anyway then Oscar ran back under the bed.. tonight they are fine together. I was able to pet them both, and then give a few minutes to one then the other, switching back and forth. they head bump me when they want to tell me its their turn again! then I come back to the rest of the house with the other 5, and Cassie is needy, and the only one upset by the other cats in the house, is Patches... I think there will be a problem with him, he seems mad at me.:(

I will update more on Monday and will also have lots of pics on Monday, I promise. I won't be online tomorrow. I will also make vet appts for them on monday and will update on that when I know something...

I am pretty excited about this now, I'm glad I got them, I like this cat stuff! (most of the time LOL)

[krazyaboutkatz]

Originally posted by marysmerrycats
then I come back to the rest of the house with the other 5, and Cassie is needy, and the only one upset by the other cats in the house, is Patches... I think there will be a problem with him, he seems mad at me.:(

I'm sure that Patches will get along with them in time. I wouldn't worry too much. My Sunny was also very upset with me for bringing Cirrus home. Now Sunny and Cirrus are buddies. :D