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marysmerrycats
04-04-2003, 10:28 AM
I thought this thread could be about our parents, I don't know if eldery is the right word, I guess I still have trouble thinking of my mother that way, she will be 70 in Sept. which is not that old.
anyway, I worry about her at times, as I'm sure alot of you do about your parents. maybe we can share things in this thread?

Please, let this thread be just for members with older or sick parents ok? not trying to exclude the younger members...

this morning my mother called me, and said, something is wrong with her, she is having trouble walking...
:confused: :eek: I said then you need to go to the dr!
she said well shes going to have her breakfast and then see how she is feeling. said she can't go to the dr every minute! (hardly goes every minute)
anyway now I guess she is ok. she does this to me at times!
I never know what to think !

mugsy
04-04-2003, 10:31 AM
My parents are 75 and 84 and my dad is not in good health. I worry about him all the time. My mom is very active, but still has health issues, so I can definitely relate.

04-04-2003, 12:18 PM
My parents both turned 80 last month. My mom is sick since I was a kid. She has Multiple Sclerosis and is totally depending on my dad, even for eating. Here is a picture of my dad & mom, taken during their 80-celebration-dinner ! They are a great couple!!

Chinadoll
04-04-2003, 01:36 PM
Positive thoughts and wishing the best for everyone's elderly parents. May they be with you for many more years.

jenluckenbach
04-04-2003, 01:51 PM
My Mom passed away April 12, 1996 at the age of 56 of lung cancer.:( My dad is 75, good health and just recently retired from working FULL time.:) But I do worry about the day that he might be ill. But for now, he still can carry the 50 pound bags of goat feed to the barn and goes to the gym 3 days a week. (more than I do)

Charlie's parents are both deceased.

Lut, your father bears a striking resemblence to Charlie's dad.

tomkatzid
04-04-2003, 02:12 PM
As I type this post I am in the 'family room' (a room for guests that has a tv, vcr and computer for e mails) at St. Charles Hospital, in Bend Oregon. I live in Seattle. On March 18 my Mom was admited here for cancer surgery. They could not do it here because of her heart and lung problems (she would want me to say she has never smoked or drank!). They transfered her to Portland Oregon, 3 hours away. I met them (her, my Dad and her sister who lives in Portland), on the 19th. The surgery was the 20th. They said they got 99% of it but would need chemo to take care of the cancer that had spread outside of the area. She was realeased last Saturday and we made the long drive, which lasted 6 hrs., with all the stops, back to Bend. On Tuesday she was readmited to St. Charles, for fluids collecting. It is now Friday again. The oncolagist (sp) said he could maybe take care of the cancer, but her heart and lungs are not in good enough shape right now to do the chemo. And they may never be. So we are stuck on hold. Maybe in another week they will try. We are just going day by day, sometimes, hour by hour.
She is 77, my Dad is 79. They have been married 57 years. They met April 1st, 58 years ago. It goes without saying that they are the life blood for one another.:)
Our prayers and thoughts are with all the parents, young and old.
Katz

Barbara
04-04-2003, 03:09 PM
My mom is 82, my dad is 87. They live 500 km away from here. Until my dad was 75 he used to play soccer with some guys of his age. Until he was 85 he still played tennis (with 3 other friends). Ball games were his live. Then when some of the others started to be too old he has stopped too and has become very old since then because he sits in front of TV all the time watching -guess- soccer and tennis.

My mom still moves a lot. She goes for a walk with their dachshund Amber every day. Their house is close to the forest and there is a fenced-in part of the forest -so Amber can run as much as she wants. My mom is also very clever in her head and you'd never guess from the phone she's that old. When you look at her however she is very frail and has a heart condition.

I am very scared of what happens when either of them passes away. In the last years the one or the other had to go to hospital for some minor stuff and the other cannot sleep whan they're not together.

marysmerrycats
04-04-2003, 09:25 PM
Katz
sorry to hear about your mother! I hope she pulls thru this.
you, and her, are in my prayers!

my mother just called me, seems I did not call her this afternoon, so I "do not care if she is alive or dead!" :confused: :(
I thought she said she was feeling better. she says she did not say that. she said she told me she still felt terrible...:confused:
:( :( needless to say my name is mud as usual.:rolleyes:

marysmerrycats
04-04-2003, 09:29 PM
Chinadoll
that was a very nice post!:)

my dad passed away, will be 10 years ago this August. he needed a heart transplant...he was only 59.

I miss him alot, seems like I have been thinking of him even more than usual, lately. he really was such a wonderful person, the best dad!


Lut, your parents look good! what a great couple!

Karen
04-04-2003, 10:47 PM
My mother died 3 1/2 years ago at the age of 73 from ALS, also known as Lou Gehrig's disease. Dad is alive and well, being taken care of by one St. Bernard, and taking care of a meriad of other neighbors, friends and all of us.

Cookiebaker
04-05-2003, 06:37 AM
Mark's parents are the dearest & sweetest people, and the best in-laws I could ever have asked for. Mom was diagnosed with multiple myloma (bone cancer) back in '99. It's been a roller coaster, and at sometimes overwhelming to deal with. But she is doing OK (pain-wise) now having recently had a procedure done called kyphoplasty (sp?) Basically 2 or 3 of her vertebrate have collapsed, and they inserted a glue to give stability. This doesn't stop the cancer at all, but it brings relief from the pain.

ellensy
04-05-2003, 10:28 AM
My dad died when i was just 7 yrs. old.... liver problems :( :( :( its so sad to think that he wouldn't be able to see me graduate from university or get married.....:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

mugsy
04-05-2003, 10:50 AM
Just after I posted on here yesterday, my dad called and was near hysterical because my mom had fallen down a couple of stairs and they had to call the ambulance. Mike and I immediately got up, got ready and put the dogs in their rooms and headed over to pick up my dad. When we got to the hospital, they had already taken Mom into X-ray. The X-rays showed nothing, but she was in an enormous amount of pain. She requested pain meds, but they had to wait for the doctor's order for it and he said not to give it to her until she stood up and walked (what a silly man!). She couldn't do it, so they ordered and MRI, which showed a TINY fracture in #1L vertebrae in her back, so they kept her overnight and are fitting her with a backbrace today. When I talked to her a little bit ago she was not feeling too chipper, but, they had at least taken the measurements for the brace. She will have to wear it for 8-12 weeks. Now, leave it to my mother to fight with the doctor, but when I told the doctor that their washer and dryer were downstairs, and he said that she would need help with it, she came back with, "But, I just scoot it across the floor and then lift it up stair by stair." The doctor laughed and told her that she WOULD be getting help with laundry. That's my mom!

marysmerrycats
04-05-2003, 11:13 AM
cookiebaker and mugsy
Im sorry to hear about your mothers.


I talked to my mom this morning and now she is just fine. so once again yesterday was nothing, and she gets mad if I say she still needs to find out what causes it, to go to the dr. Im so mad at her now I don't even want to talk to her. am I over reacting? she calls and says she is sick etc etc then its fine??? she makes me worry then its just fine!:mad:

I need a looong vacation:rolleyes:

moosmom
04-05-2003, 11:56 AM
My mom died back in 1973 of lung cancer that spread to her brain. She was 44 years old. She smoked like a steam engine :mad:

My dad passed away 6 years ago this coming August of a massive heart attack at the age of 69.

mugsy
04-05-2003, 12:04 PM
I'm sorry to hear that Donna. Your poor mother.

All Creatures Great And Small
04-05-2003, 01:03 PM
Mary, looks like you and I are in pretty much the same boat! :( My dad is 71 years old, has been through several heart attacks, a quadruple bypass, a balloon angioplasty, both legs being amputated below the knee due to diabetes, and also had another body part amputated because of a gangrenous infection (can't mention the body part on a family site, really, but it's a very important male part). He's been through so much, but is still a chipper, positive, active guy - he's a dixieland musician, so he still plays a few jobs here and there, he can drive a car with hand controls, etc. He lives alone in Southern California, with none of us living near him, but he does great.

MOM, on the other hand - oy, where do I start? She's 67 years old, has had 2 mild heart attacks but is STILL SMOKING :mad: , and has been bipolar (manic depressive) for most of her life. (That's pretty much why my parents divorced 30 years ago.) Her depression made it difficult for her to work anymore (she's a registered nurse), so she went on Social Security Disability about 10 years ago. It's barely enough to live on, and until recently she did not have any good prescription coverage for her plethora of psychiatric (expensive) meds. She was living in a horrible part of Milwaukee, but I couldn't afford to help her with too many expenses. I would give her whatever overtime money I made at Christmas time, and try to help her out with little stuff. Then, when my husband's parents passed away, we inherited an IRA that we decided to use to pay for my mom's rent in a much nicer apartment in a much nicer suburb. I found an apartment that would allow her cats for an extra amount per month, with a private laundry room, attached garage, and every type of store she would need within 3 or 4 blocks. We paid for all the moving costs, including a debris hauler to come and clear out the 10 years of accumulated JUNK and NEWSPAPERS in her old apartment, since her depression causes her to stockpile everything. (They literally parked a dumpster under her living room window and just started tossing stuff out there.) So now we pay her rent, and she pays her utilities and everything else. We also pay for her prescription co-payments, and any meds that aren't covered. We gave her a bunch of furniture, dishes, silverware, TV's, etc. from my in-laws that we didn't need, so her new apartment is completely furnished. But, surprise, surprise........she's still unhappy. (And the newspapers are starting to stack up in this new apartment too........)

I not only get the guilt trip when I don't call often enough, but one time I forgot to return 2 of her phone calls, and she went completely off on us, and even called the county Elder Abuse hotline to report us for abuse :eek: ! She left a phone message completely berating my husband, saying he didn't tell me about her other messages ON PURPOSE, he wouldn't have treated his own parents that way, blah blah. (This after they're both dead and we're using their money to support her......) I totally blew my stack, and reminded her that I have a full-time job, a family of my own, and more things to worry about than when I called her last. (I also DREAD talking to her, so I try to avoid it whenever I can.) She apologized, and we never were contacted by the county, so I guess they didn't see it as an abusive situation ;) . She is in excellent physical health, other than the smoking, but still needs me to drive her places because it's too "exhausting" and "stressful" to drive (yet she insisted I find her an apartment with an attached garage - very difficult in this neck of the woods, too); complains about the high cost of electric heating in this new apartment even though she leaves the sliding patio door open year round so her cats can roam freely (which they are not allowed to do in that apartment complex - I told her I'm not helping her if she gets evicted) and asked me to help pay her heating bills; and tells me EVERY TIME I talk to her, in the first 2 minutes of conversation, that this is the day she's going to die, she really will be dead soon, she's so tired, etc. Every conversation is just a litany of complaints, and it just gets so frustrating. However, I can't commiserate and tell her about my problems and stresses, because then she gets completely overwrought and worried about ME, and says I should quit my job and evict her from her apartment, she'll be dead soon anyway, blah, blah, blah, and just about starts crying, so now I have to always pretend everything is GREAT when I talk to her. I can't imply that anything she does causes me stress, even though EVERYTHING she does causes me stress.

The greatest worry I have now is that the IRA we inherited is really dwindling fast with the stock market in such a bad state - I only have about 3 years of rent money left, and then I don't know what to do with her. My 2 sisters don't contribute a PENNY for her care, (which is another story altogether), so I have to start making plans. I had such a hard time convincing my mom to get out of her old apartment, even though she had begged me to get her out of there, because the "stress" of relocating was just too much for her (even though she did absolutely NOTHING - no packing, no lifting, just sat there and watched the movers). The idea of telling her that she may need to move AGAIN is what I'm totally dreading.

Wow, sorry for the long post - but I needed to vent! ;)

Rachel
04-05-2003, 03:44 PM
Holy moly, ACGAS. I thought my mother was hard to deal with, but yours has mine beat! Fortunately mine was able to take care of herself financially and had a husband who was a saint.

Wish I could give you some advice about how to deal with your situation, like not to accept the guilt she is trying to dish out, but I know that is easier said than done.

Right now my husband and I are heading toward the golden years ourselves and trying to prepare for what's ahead. I have no children and my husband's daughter has enough dealing with her own issues, so if anyone wants to *adopt* a dog loving Mom and Pop, let me know. ;)

jackiesdaisy1935
04-05-2003, 04:31 PM
Well, I guess we are in Rachel's boat, lol but quite a bit older than her.
Right now we are the parents, my mother died when she was 51 of a heart attack and my father also died of a heart attack at 64.
I am 67 and have had triple by/pass surgery eight years ago and feeling just fine if it wasn't for old Mr. Arthritis, I kept telling everybody that Don was 74 however he corrected me and said I was wrong he is 73, so there. lol He is in excellent health, he and I do all the yard work now, love to travel with our dogs, gamble, I should say nickle machines, lol, and I keep busy with our dog community on msn. We show our dogs every day how much we love them and we try to make every minute of every day count. We kiss our dogs goodnight and kiss them first thing in the morning. That is true love.
We have altogether 6 kids.
Jackie, Perry and Miss Daisy

ILoveMyAbbyGirl
04-05-2003, 09:00 PM
I know you said this was for people with elderly parents, (I am 14) but my dad worries about his parents a lot and so does my mom. My mom's mom has had her hip replaced and has a slight limp, and my mom calls every once and a while to check up on her. Her husband, or my mom's dad, is slightly overweight and is on a special diet and my mom makes sure he keeps up on it. On the other side of the family, my dad's dad has been having heart trouble and has been to the hospital quite a few times. His wife, or my dad's mom, just recently was taken to the hospital and had test done because she was complaining of chest pain. Sorry if I violated the rules, but my parents share the same worry that you do.
~ILMAG

Karen
04-05-2003, 09:15 PM
Hopefully, the stock market will have picked up before the three years of rent are up. Is she eligible for any city or county assistance with rent/social worker visits/mental health assistance, etc? For example, in my city, which has excellent elder-care systems, there's a bus that will pick up elders (or otherwise disabled folks), and take them to the supermarket or other errands they might have in common.

Is there any chance you could talk to her doctor about adjusting her meds so she's not so unhappy all the time, which sounds like the depressive side taking over ...

Bipolar Disorder is so often misunderstood, and is so difficult to deal with effectively, I do not envy you one bit.

How do I know all this, when my Dad is healthy and my mom deceased? I first went through the whole aging/becoming unable to live at home/ increasing difficulties with everyday things and eventually Alzheimers with my beloved Great Aunt. We lived closest to her, and she and my mom were dear friends, so I was the nearest to help. I didn't mind, we all loved her very much, and Paul and I ended up buying her house! Then, after Bertha was in the nursing home (a wonderful one, I'd recommend it to anyone) my Mom became ill with ALS.

I told people at the time that I knew way more about nursing homes and the whole deal than any other 32-year-old I knew. And now, 5 1/2 years after Bertha's death, it's still all in my head, that kind of thing gets burned right into memory.

marysmerrycats
04-05-2003, 09:28 PM
abbygirl

theres nothing wrong with you posting about your grandparents.
I just meant, I wanted to be able to talk to others with older parents,and I thought the younger members wouldn't have parents that old. I thought it might get off the subject, but seems like I am the one that got off the subject about my mother when she irritated me! I guess I didnt think of that, if you are worried about anyone in your family, you should share with us. Im sorry.

ILoveMyAbbyGirl
04-05-2003, 10:41 PM
no its not a problem i just didnt want ya to be mad at me cuz i posted. Im sry my fault

carole
04-05-2003, 11:21 PM
my mum (we say mum here in nz) is 68 and dad is 71, dad had a heart attack two years ago, but hey he made it through it and is doing real well, most of you already know mum was diagnosed with cancer three weeks ago and has had her surgery etc, and is one of the very lucky ones, she is going to be ok, probably considered 100 percent cured because it was found so very early, katz and i have been in contact as we both were going through this at the same time, my heart goes out to her, and she is on my mind, my prayers also katz.
Up until now my folks have been blessed with pretty good health, i certainly dont want to loose either of them yet, they are both young in mind and very good for their ages, they travel alot overseas, not so far away now as they used to, dad owns his own business buying and selling stock and still works Fulltime, I spend a lot of time with my mother, she lives about ten mins drive away from me, and we shop and do all the girlie stuff together, so i would miss her dearly if anything happened to her, we fight sometimes too, but we are close.
I thought i was maybe going to loose her and it really hurt, we all know we have to let go one day, but i did not and donot want her to go suffering. i am sure you all feel like i do