PLEASE ANYONE! I am soooo desprete!!!!!!!

[Aspen and Misty]

Chewy has been biteing a growling because he thinks he can get away with it now. He is the most out of controlle agressive dog I have ever met. He is getting worse and I'm going crazy. My hand is bleeding cause he bit me. Please can anyone help me?!?!?!!?

Whats happening is anytime I move Chewy bites my legs really hard. He's not doing the herding nip thing either cause he bites my hands, legs, arms, clothes anything he can sink his teeth into. I can't take him any where nor can I even walk in my own home any more! I'm going insane! I have no idea what to do with him! I'm calling a trainer tomrrow, maybe they can help me, although I think I know more then most of them around here! :rolleyes:

i feel stupid postign this cause no one else post there problems with there perfect dogs. I can't stand it any longer and I have waited 2 months to post this, please anyone????

Ash

[lovemyshiba]

I'm so sorry to hear of your troubles, Ash. How far are you willing to travel for training? I have some numbers and names of some people here, maybe I could get in touch with them for you, if you would be willing to come this far (I think it's an hour, right??)
Let me know if I can help--otherwise, I have no advice.

I hope you can find some help for Chewy--My dogs are NOT perfect, but we do what we can.

Let me know what is going on, if you find a good trainer, and what they say.

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by lovemyshiba
I'm so sorry to hear of your troubles, Ash. How far are you willing to travel for training? I have some numbers and names of some people here, maybe I could get in touch with them for you, if you would be willing to come this far (I think it's an hour, right??)
Let me know if I can help--otherwise, I have no advice.

I hope you can find some help for Chewy--My dogs are NOT perfect, but we do what we can.

Let me know what is going on, if you find a good trainer, and what they say.

I have a trainer here. I hate her so much, god do I hate her, grrr. The other trainers when I told them Chewy was agressive they told me I should put him down, well w/e. I'm working with him. Acctaully we go o state college almost very weekend to there petsmart. Our pet store employees are stupid and no nothing, at least down there they know that dogs have souls.

LOL, if you can't tell that was a yes, I would love ot have the number of your trainers, O gee, I need to stop talking.

Ash :rolleyes:

[wolf_Q]

Originally posted by Aspen and Misty


i feel stupid postign this cause no one else post there problems with there perfect dogs. I can't stand it any longer and I have waited 2 months to post this, please anyone????



Apparently you have not heard of "Naughty Nebo??" My dog is in NO WAY perfect.....I promise.......I've felt like you many times, comparing my little brat to all the perfect pet talk doggies. :(

I'm really not sure what to tell you. :( When Nebo starts getting nippy with me I'll get up and walk away from him and ignore him. I know this really does not work with every dog though....ignoring him didn't work when he was a puppy, and he was BITEY puppy. If I say "Ouch!" really loud or "Uh-uh" he'll at least stop to look at me for a bit. Somebody told me to put Vicks or Bitter Apple on my hands if he was biting, but it didn't stop him at all.

Have you tried a lot of positive inforcement (clicks/treats when he's being good) with him? It kind of sounds like he's biting you to get attention, even if it's negative attention. I know for a fact that dogs sense your feelings....when I'm in a bad mood, usually Nebo is a brat, which makes me more frustrated and upset, which makes him more of a brat.......If I just calm down, he's better.

Sorry, I wish I knew what to tell you. :(

[Aspen and Misty]

O yea, if he is laying on the floor I will tell him he is such a good boy! Anythign he deos even if its stupid I will tell him how good of a boy he is. I will try to keep him more occupied, maybe a 4th walk is a must :( I'm al lwalked out though, blah. I dunno what to do with this guy, ::sigh::

Ash

[aly]

Are you seeing a trainer or a behaviorist? I would suggest seeing a behaviorist who specializes in aggression. There's a big difference between trainers and behaviorists. Basically anyone can call themself a trainer so you have to be careful.

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by aly
Are you seeing a trainer or a behaviorist? I would suggest seeing a behaviorist who specializes in aggression. There's a big difference between trainers and behaviorists. Basically anyone can call themself a trainer so you have to be careful.

There are no behaviorist near me. O well

I FOUDN A CURE I FOUDN A CURE I FOUND A CURE I FOUND A CURE I FOUND A CURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I make him heel and then run with him when he begins to bit I get him bacdk in the heel postiion and make him sit. every time we run adn eh does't bit he gets a treat, he has already stopped biteing when we run! Its wokring great! Thank you everyone!

Ash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Byakko's Mom]

I agree a behaviorist is your best bet but if there are none near you.It is hard to help with this type of thing online without meeting the dog.There is a good site with trainers and behavioists that might be able to help you find someone kind of close to you.It is www.greatpets.com They have lots of good information in their site and articles on training tips like grounding.I have been trying it on my dogs.I have learned alot there.The site has message boards and articles and all kinds of neat stuff check it out.I hope it helps.
Laurie

[Byakko's Mom]

I am so glad you found something that is working.Still look at greatpets you might find some other ideas to add on.Your idea sounds great.YEA!!!!!!Congratulations!!!!!:D :)

[Cookiebaker]

Originally posted by Aspen and Misty
i feel stupid postign this cause no one else post there problems with there perfect dogs.

Wow I feel the same way. Malone is *so* far from perfect. Some days, he drives me incredibly batty. He comes from behind, and jumps and nips, and then runs away. I know they say not to use the crate for punishment, but that's where he goes when he gets in a mood like that. Hang in there Ash, we're all here together!

[ParNone]

I think there’s no such thing as a perfect anything, person, dog, cat, etc. And this especially holds true when rearing puppies. I don’t talk too much about the issues I have to work on with Oz, because they seem manageable, but we have problems just like everybody else.

I worked with him not to be a counter surfer, but didn’t think about sitting around the table eating dinner. A couple of weeks ago I took him over to a friend’s house and her father was eating dinner at the table. She said to let him off the leash and I no sooner unhooked him and he planted his 2 front paws on the dinner table and stuck his nose in her father’s plate. Argh! I was so embarrassed.

Being a herding breed, we’re also continually working on nipping. He doesn’t really bite, mainly just puts his mouth on you, but still it’s something I really don’t want him doing. He put his mouth around my nose not too long ago, so I’ve been working with him, that touching noses is acceptable, mouthing is absolutely not.

Next big issue is jumping up. He’s getting really bad at this. The other night I had picked up Maddie to bring her inside and he just launched himself at us. I managed not to get pushed over, but he hit us so hard, he ended up limping for about minute. Then last night I was taking him outside to work on heel. I had the leash and cheese in one hand and was locking the front door with the other. I wasn’t watching him while doing this and he jumped up and took the cheese right out of my hand. He got rewarded for jumping up, so we just took 5 giant steps backwards on that issue.

And last, barking at anybody or anything on the other side of the fence. Being use to 2 fairly quiet Cairn terriers, this probably isn't as big an issue as I think, but I really don’t want him barking. I haven’t yet figured out how to get across “no barking”, because as soon as I open the back door, he stops whatever he’s doing and comes running to me. So I haven’t been able to catch him in the act. I think I’m going to try going out the front door to the fence and see if I can toss a lil’ water over the fence at him, as he’s barking.

Anywho, just wanted to let you know I think most of us who have puppies are dealing with issues whether we talk about them or not.

Par…

[DoggiesAreTheBest]

Ash, I am sorry that you are having problems with Chewy. But I am glad to hear that you have found something that may work.
As Parnon said, there is no such thing as a perfect dog or perfect person. Don't worry, all our dogs have had their moments. Drake was and can still be a handful at times. Be patient and if your problem persists, seek help from a behaviorist. That is how we got Drake's aggression under control.

[lovemyshiba]

Ok, I will PM you with the names of the trainers that I have. I have not used any of them, I just got referred to them by our local pet store. One of them used to work there, and I'm positive that he is good. I know at least one of them does behavioral consults, so maybe that will help.
Also, when you're coming here to go to Petco, you should go to Wiscoy also--they are a fabulous pet store--they love all animals, and are very willing to help out or whatever. They are located in the plaza off of Atherton where Giant is (I can give you better directions if you want to go)--when we first got Kito, they helped me pick out the right crate, collar, brush, shampoo, clippers, and everything else I need--they really are wonderful.....and, in the summer (I think it's in August) they hold a doggie ice cream social on Friday nights--everyone comes and brings their dogs, and they get ice cream!!! They give you little name tags that say "Kito's mom", or in your case "Chewy's mom"--it is so cool!!!

[wolf_Q]

I think Nebo and Oz have shared a few moments! (though I bet Nebo has had more of them!! lol)

When I first took him to my grandparents house, the very first thing he did was go up to my grandpa who was eating dinner, and put his paws right on the table! Luckily I grabbed him before he took a bite....he's never put his paws on the table at home before (sniffed it many times though)...but I guess this table was lower...I don't know...

Nebo is still bitey, he sucks at taking treats nicely, and he bites when playing also. He's bitten my nose too (not hard).

Nebo ALWAYS tries to jump when I have Reggie or Smokey in my arms!! He's getting a little better though, as I say "uh-uh" if he even tries to and he'll stop. He always still tries though. He has a real problem with jumping on "new" people too. When a guest comes into the house, he likes to show how "well behaved" he is by jumping on them first thing! Grrrr

He really doesn't have a problem with barking. He's a very quiet dog. If I hadn't taught him "speak" I think it'd be a pretty rare occurance to hear him bark. Though when I'm trying to get him to look at me/name game (especially in class) he likes to be embarassing and bark at me...he gets confused easily...

Other problems with Nebo....he won't listen to others like he listens to me. He likes to play fetch, so he's always bringing toys to people. The problem is, if I say "give" he gives it to me. If other people say give, he doesn't....and then it turns into tug-of-war which is exactly what I *don't* want. But my main annoying problem right now is how he lunges (play) at EVERY dog he sees! It drives me crazy!!

Ok, just thought I'd ramble on there....I could write a novel about problems with Nebo..lol...I still love that little brat though.

I hope what you are trying will work with Chewy!

[ramanth]

Chewy! :( Don't you know you're hurting your mommy?

Ash, I don't have any extra advice to what has already been said. I'm sorry Chewy is acting up and I hope the trick you are trying works in the long run.

*hugs*

[slleipnir]

I'm glad you found something that works. I know my dogs definatly are not prefect either. Josie howls at everything when shes outside ALL the time. Zeke is kinda nippy with my feet too, only he doesn't bite hard. Still working on it

[Corinna]

Do I recall you having a simular problem be fore? Could this be a continuation?
I don't have a biting problem with Merlin, He just hates the ups guy , I have tried everything It's not just the same guy. So to prevent any harm to either the guy or Merlin I just keep him in the bedroom when he arrives (almost evey day). It's the major problem he has. I'm very lucky he was socailized well as a pup by the whole family.
Good luck on the problem. Maybe you should get the book on how people and animals interact. I just finished reading. The title, Pack of two.

[ParNone]

wolfq writes:

Nebo ALWAYS tries to jump when I have Reggie or Smokey in my arms!! He's getting a little better though, as I say "uh-uh" if he even tries to and he'll stop. He always still tries though.
What is it with this? Whenever I'm holding Maddie or Murph is
when Oz is the absolute worst about jumping. I can't figure
out why he gets so nutty over me picking them up. He's not
really all that keen on being held by me. He'll only sit still for
me petting him for short periods. So I don't know why he cares
about them being held so much. And between training and
playing with him, he's not lacking for attention either. Tiz
puzzling.

Par...

[Aspen and Misty]

Thanx everyone. Well I sure do feel better now that I know Chewy isn't the only bad dog out there. :rolleyes: We worked on it last night and I took of the lesh and ran and he chased me but didn't bite! I can finally walk in my own home!! I'm the hapiest person alive. LOL :rolleyes: well, I'm calling that stupid trainer who I hate today, I need to know what she thinks, and if she lies to me one more time I swear.

I also will be calling the trainers Emily suggested, thank you! And I will try ouot the pet store! Hopefully this weekend. You'll have to let me know when they hold those ice cream thigns, that would be sooo fun!

Ash :D

ps: Corrina- Yes Chewy is agressive and I posted like 2 days ago this problem hopeing someone could help and you guys gave me a sugestion and I tried it but I didn't work.

[ChrisH]

Ash, I think, as others have written, that a really good trainer/behavourist could help you a lot to get to grips with Chewys biting problem, that and what you already know and are doing should win out in the end.
As for perfect dogs, lol, my Bob sure is not one! And, unlike Chewy, Malone, Nebo and others, he is no pup/youngster still, he is nearly five years old! Unlike the other dogs I have had he has just proven to be a difficult dog for me to train properly......I won`t go through his faults or I will just depress myself!:D

Just keep at it Ash (as I know you will.:)) Love to you and Chewy.

Chris and Bob, and Ebby the cat of course

[lovemyshiba]

Originally posted by ParNone
wolfq writes:

What is it with this? Whenever I'm holding Maddie or Murph is
when Oz is the absolute worst about jumping.

Par...

Abbey is the same exact way!! If I pick Kito up (and I do it all the time, because it cracks me up how I can hold him like a skin baby, on my hip), she goes crazy--biting at his tail, biting at me:)
I think they're all just nuts sometimes!!

[mugsy]

I hope you don't think that all 20 of ours are perfect all the time. Sheesh...I have to yell at most of them a couple of times a day!! Some of ours are still not housebroken so we clean up messes incessantly, don't think that's not frustrating. We have the dogs that fight (just like siblings) and we have to break it up...most times a simple knock it off is sufficient. We have food aggression problems (that are rapidly getting better). Our dogs jump. Sammy is an escape artist. A lot of them don't come immediately when called.....should I go on?? lol I think it's just part of having a pet. Just like people, you have to take the good with the bad. I love our dogs with all my heart and wouldn't get rid of them for anything, but, they do drive me nuts sometimes.

[ramanth]

Originally posted by ParNone
wolfq writes:

What is it with this? Whenever I'm holding Maddie or Murph is
when Oz is the absolute worst about jumping. I can't figure
out why he gets so nutty over me picking them up. He's not
really all that keen on being held by me. He'll only sit still for
me petting him for short periods. So I don't know why he cares
about them being held so much. And between training and
playing with him, he's not lacking for attention either. Tiz
puzzling.

Par...

One word. Jealousy. :)

Kia will lay around not bugging me but the minute I hug someone or pick up at cat at my parents house, she goes nuts, jumping up, grabbing my arm with her mouth to try and pull me away.

As soon as I stop hugging the person or set the cat down, she'll lay at my feet and show her belly with a look that says, "ME!! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!"

[Sudilar]

Well, I know you are talking about my perfect dogs, of course. Hahahaha NOT

When we first adopted Shiloh at 9 months old, we discovered that she was a nipper. Being that she was a large GSD, those nips hurt!! Just as I was lining up a behaviorist at $200 for a session, she suddenly solved the problem herself. She started picking up an object to present to us instead of nipping our hands when we came in the door. Also, a very loud yelp! would work when she nipped. She would stop instantly. (It worked for Killian when she nipped him, I figured it would work for us too). Haha Things that she does are showing that she was probably removed from her mom and siblings too early. She wasn't sure how to act.

Hope Chewy is doing better now!! Good luck.

[aly]

Originally posted by wolf_Q

Nebo is still bitey, he sucks at taking treats nicely,


Have you tried putting treats in your fist and sort of have a tiny bit sticking out the opening where your thumb and pointer finger close? Make it so he has to gently work the treat out and give a 'gentle' command. If he bites too hard, do the ouch and close your fist tighter so he can't get the treat (If you pull your hand away, it will be more tempting for him to grab and mouth at it). If he is gentle, praise and loosen your grip so he can work the treat out.

You may have already tried this, but just in case you haven't, it usually works with the shelter dogs I use it on!

[aly]

Originally posted by wolf_Q

Though when I'm trying to get him to look at me/name game (especially in class) he likes to be embarassing and bark at me...he gets confused easily...


Hehehe Amy! That cracks me up :D :D You know how much I love those dorky dogs!!! :) :D

[Aspen and Misty]

:D You all are so great!! ::hugs:: You have been such a great help and I'm loving hearing about how wonderful all your dogs are!!!! Hee hee

Ash