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krazyaboutkatz
01-21-2003, 02:18 PM
Hi everyone. As many of you know Pepper has been throwing up food and sometimes liquid. Well this morning he threw up blood. :( It's very hard for me to talk about this because I'm very upset right now. I called the vet and he told me to bring him in asap. I brought him in and he's also running a fever. His temperature was 106 degrees. When he's at the vet it usually runs between 102 and 103 because he becomes very stressed. He has also lost another pound so he now weighs about 15lbs. He may have an ulcer or it could be pancreatitus or he may have a polup or tumor in his stomach.:( I stopped giving him the prednisolone pills because this is will aggrevate his stomach and make it worse. The vet gave him some IV fluids and an injection of some kind of antibiotic. He's also on 3 kinds of pills for the next 5 days. He's on flagyl (metronidazole) 1 pill 2 times a day, carafate to help sooth his stomach 1/2 pill 2 times a day, and reglan 1 pill 2-3 times a day for nausea. I'm also supposed to feed him small amounts of food every few hours. He also had another blood test which includes a thyroid and some kind of test for his pancreas. I should get the results later today or tomorrow morning. He still needs another type of pancreas test but he must fast for this so we'll wait on that for now. He may also need to have an ultrasound. There are a few other more invasive tests that he may need to but I already told the vet that I really don't want to put him through these since he's been through so much already. I called my boss and told him that I wouldn't be in today and I starting crying since it's very hard for me to talk about. He said he understands and to do whatever I need to do. Please say some prayers for my poor Pepper. He's been through so much. Thank you.

trinity
01-21-2003, 02:35 PM
Most definitely sending healthy thoughts, prayers, hugs, wishes and anything else that we can! All fingers and paws crosssed. Please keep us posted! Get well soon, Pepper!!!

Randi
01-21-2003, 02:47 PM
Oh Tracey, I'm so very sorry to hear that Pepper is so ill! :( I hope it's nothing serious and that these new pills will help! I can imagine what you're going through, - luckily your boss understands!

I don't know much about the medicine he's getting, apart from Prednisolone and I'm I sure it's a good idea to get him off these!!

Let him get some rest in calm surroundings (I bet you already do) and make sure he gets some liquid.

We'll all keep our fingers and paws crossed for dear Pepper.

Get well soon, Pepper! :)

Hugs to you and kisses to Pepper!

Edwina's Secretary
01-21-2003, 02:52 PM
Oh poor, poor Pepper and poor, poor you KAK!!!

My thoughts are will both of you and hoping for a positive outcome!

lynnestankard
01-21-2003, 03:34 PM
Prayers and Hugs Tracey - hope everything improves for Pepper.

Lynne

Barbara
01-21-2003, 03:47 PM
Tracey, I'm so sorry. I hope everything will work out well. We think of you and Pepper!

ChrisH
01-21-2003, 03:52 PM
Prayers and positive thoughts sent for poor sweet Pepper, and for you too.

Love and Hugs
Chris

momoffuzzyfaces
01-21-2003, 03:58 PM
HUGS and PRAYERS are on the way for you both. The cats all have their paws crossed too!

slick
01-21-2003, 04:06 PM
Soooo sorry to hear about poor Pepper! Can't imagine how bad you and Pepper must feel. Know that we are praying for you and God will give you both the courage to face what's before you.

hugs and kisses
Slick, Max & Speckles

NoahsMommy
01-21-2003, 04:06 PM
Dear God,

God, please be with Pepper and his mommy right now. Pepper is real sick and he's so uncomfortable right now. He really needs the help that only you can give.

Please help our Pepper get better and back to his normal self. He is such a sweet baby and gives his mom and us so much joy.

Please my Lord, be with him and heal him.

Thank you.

In Jesus' Name.

Amen.

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
01-21-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by trinity
Most definitely sending healthy thoughts, prayers, hugs, wishes and anything else that we can! All fingers and paws crosssed. Please keep us posted! Get well soon, Pepper!!!

Same for me. I'm so sorry to hear Pepper isn't doing any better, and actually seems to be getting worse. :(

I'm glad your boss is so understanding - helps your stress level a bit. Give the others a hug and smooch from me because I'm sure they know something is going on with their brother.

Please take care of yourself too.

{{{{{Hugs to you and Pepper}}}}}

neko1
01-21-2003, 04:47 PM
I'm so sorry to hear about Pepper. Lots of hugs, love, and prayers coming your way from myself and the gang.

Get well soon, sweetie!

AmberLee
01-21-2003, 05:49 PM
OMG! Holding you and all your fur-family in my prayers. Poor Pepper! I bet little Sunny and Stormy are freaked right now, too.

{{{Cyberhugs!}}}

JillLovesMinnie14yrs
01-21-2003, 05:58 PM
Oh Darn :( Oh Darn :( Sweet Pepper. it is such a shame when our cats become ill, we can't understand what they are going through for they cannot talk and let us know. We'd like to just take all of their illness and give it to ourselves. First I found out about Bassett, and now Pepper. I wish i could give you some medical advice but it seems your vet has done that already. You seem very educated on what Pepper needs, and that is a sign of a true and caring doctor. Let's all keep our paws crossed that Pepper's doctor can fix him back up in no time. Your mommy loves you Pepper, and your two brothers two. You will get over your illness as soon as possible :)

Miss Meow
01-21-2003, 06:30 PM
Oh no, Tracey, I'm so sorry. My heart is going out to you and Pepper right now. I hope the test results help out with finding Pepper's illness, poor little boy. We are thinking of you and your babies and hoping like mad that he'll be OK.

Nomilynn
01-21-2003, 06:36 PM
I've PM'd you, but please know you are in my thoughts and prayers.

Sara luvs her Tinky
01-21-2003, 07:11 PM
Oh poor Pepper....:(
Tracey ......... you and Pepper will be in my prayers...
technology has come so far... I am sure they will find out what is wrong with dear Pepper and he will be better in no time... just keep faith... {{{HUGS}}}

jenluckenbach
01-21-2003, 07:17 PM
oh, poor sweet Pepper, I was so sure that you were going to start to get better. I never dreamed you would take a turn for the worse. I too have tears in my eyes thinking of your dear little self having such hardship. Hugs and prayers are on their way to you. PLEASE get better fast.

wolflady
01-21-2003, 07:56 PM
Oh my goodness!! I was hoping things were getting better for dear Pepper! Please know that you and Pepper are in my thoughts and prayers too. I know how scary it is to have a furbaby throw up blood. I am glad that your boss was understanding in this situation. My heart goes out to you! I certainly hope this thing can be treated and that Pepper will get better. Do let us know what happens with all of the tests.
****hugs****
Karen

All Creatures Great And Small
01-21-2003, 08:24 PM
I'm so sorry to hear about lovely Pepper and his tummy troubles. All fingers, toes, and paws crossed here in hopes of good news from the vet.

Felicia's Mom
01-21-2003, 09:08 PM
I am so sorry to hear that Pepper is worse than before. My prayers are for him.

Nancy, Felicia & Beau

gini
01-21-2003, 11:07 PM
Oh Tracey, I am so sorry to hear this new development. You can be sure you both will be in my prayers. Could you tell your boss how much we appreciate his kindness towards you at this time.
It takes someone special to be sensitive to your circumstances.
I am hoping that your next post will be good news.

kimlovescats
01-21-2003, 11:32 PM
Thinking of you and Pepper, and praying that all goes well.

krazyaboutkatz
01-21-2003, 11:42 PM
Here's an update on Pepper. The vet called me tonight with his test results. He has some kind of infection because his white blood cell count is up to 50,000 and it should only be between 12-15,000. :( His liver panel is also elevated but this could be due to his vomiting. I'm taking him back to the vet tomorrow morning so they can give him antibiotics intraveinously as well as his 3 other pills. He'll be there all day so I know he's in good hands. I sure hope that this works. Today he slept most of the day and he cried a lot like he was in pain. :( He doesn't have any appetite either but if I felt as bad as he does I wouldn't either. Thanks for all the prayers and positive energy coming his way. I'd also like to thank AmberLee for stopping by and giving Pepper and I some positive energy.

AmberLee
01-22-2003, 12:19 AM
Fingers crossed that the Reiki helped. He's looking good: sure hope he's feeling better soon.

(Note: Their new cat tree is AWESOME!! Hope he's up to exploring it very, very soon.)

popcornbird
01-22-2003, 02:11 AM
Oh dear. :( Poor Pepper! I sure hope he'll get well soon and will be feeling great in no time! Get well Pepper!

01-22-2003, 03:16 AM
Oh no !! poor Pepper ...! So sorry he has to go through all this ... I hope for you to Tracey that the vet will be able to make your sweetheart better soon . It is devastating to see your cat suffer ...:(
Get well Pepper !http://www.cindydrew.com/cats/free/kitface.gif

jenluckenbach
01-22-2003, 05:51 AM
If they now know that it is an infection, that should be the first step toward recovery. All prayers still coming your way.

smokey the elder
01-22-2003, 08:17 AM
Poor Pepper! I hope you get better soon. You couldn't be in better hands, between your meowmie and the vet.

all fingers, toes, tails and paws crossed here.
{{{Hugz}}}

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
01-22-2003, 09:38 AM
Oh, Pepper, at least they know you have some kind of infection - that's a good start anyway. Now if they could just figure out what that infection is they could work on really getting you all fixed up. Be good at the white coats today because they're just trying to make you feel better.

More hugs and prayers going out to both of you, Tracey and Pepper. :)

HayleyRosie
01-22-2003, 11:07 AM
I sure hope Pepper is feeling better really soon. Please keep us posted. Prayers are on the way!

emily_the_spoiled
01-22-2003, 12:28 PM
I know that it is hard to watch our furkids in pain or suffering, but at least the white coats have determined that it is an infection. This means that it is treatable and the metronidazole is a VERY powerful drug. The lack of appetite is probably related to the metronidazole. One of it's side effects is severe nausea and vomiting and a lack of appetite.

Our hopes and prayers are with you, Cheryl, Emily, and Tanner:( :(

NoahsMommy
01-22-2003, 12:40 PM
Dear Pepper,

Just wanted you to know that you are in my thoughts right now. I know you're probably scared and don't understand all that's going on, but know that it'll be over soon and you'll feel better.

We are all rooting for you, sending prayers to God and lots of happy/positive thoughts your way.

Take care, sweet boy. We love you.

Cataholic
01-22-2003, 04:28 PM
Come on Pepper, get better!!!!!! Prayers on their way to you and mommy.

Russian Blue
01-22-2003, 04:58 PM
Most positive healing medical vibes being sent your way.

Hugs to both you and Pepper!!

krazyaboutkatz
01-22-2003, 11:33 PM
Thanks for all the prayers and well wishes. I just found out today that Pepper has diabetes. It may be only temporary though because the cortizone and prednisolone can cause his glucose level to increase. I have to feed him a special diabetic diet 2 times a day and then give him an insulin injection after he eats. If he's weak, shaky, not eating, having seizures, or panting then I don't give him any insulin. I also have to put glucose strips in the litterboxes to monitor his glucose level and I also need to monitor his water consumption. He goes back to the vet on Friday morning for an all day glucose testing and back on Monday morning for an ultrasound. The specialist needs to look at his pancreas, stomach, and liver to find out whats going on there. I sure hope that his diabetes is only temporary or if it's not that we can find the right amount of insulin to keep his glucose level balanced. I also hope that the ultrasound will tell us something too. Pepper's been through too much lately and I just hate to see him not feeling well.

jenluckenbach
01-23-2003, 05:05 AM
Tracey, Let me tell you what I know about the diabetes.
My Y.Lee developed it. His symptoms also started after a dose of a steroid medication. The steroid tends to allow other low lying diseases to surface. He most likely was already getting the diabetes, but the symptoms were too subtle to be diagnosed. Cats are the only species that can overcome diabetes. (Y.Lee, did not).:( BUT ! Y.Lee never had the throwing up. So I truely believe that something else is also going on. The shots, the urine testing, the special food, they are all worth it, but He will have to go through a whole lot of testing to try to control his blood sugar level. Many all day trips to the vet, until the correct dosage can be found.
Now, could you tell me what else is going on? I am afraid I have lost track of the other diagnosis. Last I remember he was being treated for an infection.

Barbara
01-23-2003, 06:49 AM
It's such a pity that these poor furkids can never tell us what they really feel. So it is so complicated to find out whether it is one disease or 2 or even more.
I hope that one after onother can be healed. Poor Pepper.

emily_the_spoiled
01-23-2003, 07:53 AM
I am also hoping that Pepper's diabetes is transient and will improve within the next couple of weeks. I also hope that there is will be no problems in controlling the diabetes.

Now Pepper you be a good little kitty and try to do what you mommy needs you to do ;)

Cataholic
01-23-2003, 09:51 AM
This is good news, Pepper!!! I am praying for you.

ChrisH
01-23-2003, 09:56 AM
Oh, this is all so hard for you both, poor Pepper and poor you. :( Keeping you both in my prayers and thoughts, and sending lots of love and hugs.

Chris

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
01-23-2003, 11:07 AM
Oh Pepper, I sure hope this is just a symptom and will clear up soon - although if this is the culprit of this whole thing, that would be ok too as long as they know what it is and it's something treatable. Be a good boy and take all your meds, eat all your food and snuggle with your mommy when you get a chance. :)

NoahsMommy
01-23-2003, 01:35 PM
Poor Pepper! You sure are having to deal with a lot aren't you, sweet boy? And your mommy, having all this stress going on. :(

I pray that the vet can figure out what's causing this and get you all fixed up.

I think its time for another prayer...

Dear Lord,

Would you please help Pepper and his mommy feel better, both physically and emotionally? They sure are having a hard time, and poor Pepper isn't feeling well.

Please be with the doctors to help determine for good, what is wrong and help them to know how to fix this little angel.

Thank you my Lord.

In Jesus' name.

Amen

lynnestankard
01-23-2003, 01:51 PM
Nice one Kelly - Amen to that.

Come on Pepper {{{{Hugs}}}} to you and your Meowmie xxx

Lynne

tatsxxx11
01-23-2003, 06:29 PM
Dear Tracey... My kitty Mr. B (a.k.a. Buddy) was just diagnosed with diabetes two weeks ago! His blood sugar was 660 (normal high 120) He had been drinking so much and using the litter box 4-5 times per hr. the last day before taking him to the vet. We're on Lente insulin (longer lasting) 4 units 2x daily and have been going for glucose testing every other day. He is also on Purina DM (diabetic management) and of course, monitioring his fluid intake and urine output. Next week he goes in for a 12 hr. glucose "curve" to deterine his sugar highs and lows on his current dose. Have they mentined home glucose monitoring to you?? Even though I'm a nurse, this really threw me for a loop and had my head spinning; not exactly the same as treating a human diabetic! There's a great feline diabetes website/info.center/message board that's I'll post the address for later. It was a great help to me. I'm so glad they finally diagnosed Pepper; hopefully it is only a temporary condition. Try not to worry. Even if he is ulitimatley diagnosed with feline diabetes, it is very manageable and many kitties live many happy years, regulated with insulin. I'll be keeping an eye out for your updates and please PM me if you'd like. Love and hugs to you and Pepper from Sandra and "B."

krazyaboutkatz
01-24-2003, 12:36 AM
Thanks again everyone for the prayers and concerns. One problem that Pepper is having is that he's not eating. If he doesn't eat then I can't give him his insulin. He's on Purina D/M dry food and ate this without any problems on Wed. I asked the vet if I should try to force feed him and he said yes. Well I tried this tonight and he ended up throwing up everything. :( He goes to the vet tomorrow for an all day glucose test. The vet thinks he might have pancreatitus and this is why his glucose level is so high. I think it was in the 300 range so it wasn't as high as cats with full blown diabetes. Hopefully when he gets his ultrasound on Monday, they'll be able to find his problem. I sure hope that whatever they find that it's treatable. I'm trying to think positive thoughts but it's very hard sometimes. He seems more alert but I know he still feels lousy. The vet did a few other tests on Pepper on Wed. and I hope he'll have the results back tomorrow. I'll give you an update as soon as I know anything.

wolf_Q
01-24-2003, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by krazyaboutkatz
The vet thinks he might have pancreatitus and this is why his glucose level is so high. I think it was in the 300 range so it wasn't as high as cats with full blown diabetes.

Obviously things are different with cats vs. humans...but...I had severe pancreatitis twice this year. I was put in the hospital with it the second time. It seems weird to me that he is supposed to eat, when that is the exact opposite of what I was supposed to do. They would not let me eat or drink for 4 days. When you eat, it makes the pancreas start working, and that makes the pancreatitis worse. I had to have fluids through and IV only. Only when the enzyme levels when down (I was WAAAY high) was I allowed to eat...even then, it took several weeks of basically eating nothing but a liquid diet to get the levels completely down.

That is just my experience with pancreatitis, I'm sure it's different with cats....he may not have pancreatitis after all anyway. I sure hope the results for Pepper are positive, please let us know any updates! I'll keep positive thoughts for sweet Pepper!

Miss Meow
01-24-2003, 02:10 AM
I'm glad there's a bit of good news for you. I know Pepper's not out of the woods yet, but he's making progress and I'll be hoping that the ultrasound on Monday brings some better news.

jenluckenbach
01-24-2003, 04:46 AM
I am so sorry that this turned out to be such a nightmare. All we want is for Pepper to be happy and healthy again. I'd be pulling my hair out by now so I think I can feel your frustration and saddness.
{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}

NoahsMommy
01-24-2003, 03:22 PM
Poor Pepper and poor Tracey! :(

I'll keep up my prayers over here for an answer and healing.

You poor things, I'm so sorry about all this. We really want Pepper better and you happy.

Take care and know we are worrying and praying with you.

Vermontcat
01-24-2003, 06:47 PM
I am just catching up on this thread and I hope that the vet has good news for you and that Pepper will feel better soon. Give him a hug from me and Samantha.

zippy-kat
01-24-2003, 11:42 PM
{{Keeping you guys in my thoughts!}}

krazyaboutkatz
01-25-2003, 12:54 AM
Here's another update on Pepper. I finally have some good news. He's not a diabetic any more. He was only a transient diabetic because of the cortizone and prednisolone. He also didn't have to stay at the vets all day. I guess it was good that he wouldn't eat for me because then the insulin could have made his glucose level too low. His temperature was 104 degrees so the vet wants me to try to take his temp this weekend when he's calm. This way we'll know how much it's elevated due to stress. He was eating today and seems much more alert. He also has a bladder infection due to the high glucose level but hopefully the antibiotics will cure that. The vet will test him about 4-5 days after he's through with his meds to make sure that the infection has cleared up. When I was giving him his meds tonight, he was really fighting me and he gagged on the antibiotic pill and this caused him to throw up. It was mainly food so this is how I know he's been eating. I was able to get his pills down again but he later threw up one of the pills. It was the carafate one which is supposed to soothe him stomach. Another one of his tests which is for the pancreas won't be back until Jan. 31st. I sure hope that the ultrasound will show something so he can be treated for whatever is causing his infection.

smokey the elder
01-25-2003, 08:24 AM
When Smokey the Elder had trouble 6 years ago with throwing up, the vet gave me liquid cimetidine (Tagamet). Maybe you can get a liquid stomach med for Pepper.

You be a nice cat, Pepper and let meowmie help you!

Nomilynn
01-25-2003, 12:46 PM
Our old cat has pancreatitis. He had to cut out all fat from his diet, and now he's fine. He eats fat free dry and wet food for seniors. Maybe that will help?

I will continue to pray for Pepper's speedy recovery! Get well soon sweetie! :)

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
01-25-2003, 04:29 PM
I'm glad to hear the diabetes was only temporary - whew, one less thing to worry about. Now if the ultra-sound would just show something so you can work on making it better for him. Poor Pepper, but it sounds like he's feeling better, and now we've got two black kitties on PT with bladder infections. Makes me wonder if Tubby might be getting diabetes, or have it and that's what caused his bladder infection, but you would think the vet would have checked that when they checked his blood.....but I guess I'll call on Monday just to see what they say, and maybe do a little research to see what some of the symptoms are.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear things are looking up for Pepper. We'll continue our thoughts and prayers for him and for you, Tracey.

Come on Pepper, you can do it! :)

ChrisH
01-25-2003, 05:31 PM
How is Pepper today? Real good news that the diabetes turned out to be temporary. Keeping Pepper and you in my prayers.
Love and hugs to you both.

Chris

krazyaboutkatz
01-25-2003, 07:16 PM
I think that Pepper is feeling a little bit better today. :) He fighting me more and more each time I give him his pills which usually means that he's feeling better. He's still throwing up the carafate pill though which is supposed to soothe his stomach. I bought some more hairball stuff which will also help his stomach. The one I bought today has chamomile in it which should be soothing. I've never seen it before and it's called Lickables Nutritional Gel. I've seen him drinking but not eating today which may be just as well if he does have pancreatitus. Before the specialist gets to the vet on Monday, they will call me so that I may be able to be there while they are giving Pepper the ultrasound. I sure hope they'll be able to see something and that it's treatable. My roommate has pancreatitus and she said that they should be able to see it with an ultrasound. I was also able to take his temperature today and it was 101.9 degrees which is considered normal. :) I'll give you an update on Monday as soon as I know anything.

trisha0503
01-25-2003, 08:59 PM
I'm glad to hear Pepper is feeling much better :) We'll keep precious Pepper in our thoughts ! :) :)

krazyaboutkatz
01-25-2003, 10:31 PM
Here are a few pictures of Pepper that I took today. He has hair missing under his neck because they needed to draw blood from here and his right paw where a catheter was put in for IV fluids.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid48/pce05d42fcf8da6a5ec7ea23a6fef6a51/fcbaa3e2.jpg
I think I'm feeling a little bit better today.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid48/p58008c7c3d4dcbd527be3e9e66175e00/fcbaa3e1.jpg
See my shaved paw. It's pretty ugly isn't it.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid48/p3ec0bac0579774e7706e44403d6d7fb2/fcbaa3e0.jpg
I'm still don't have much energy.

lailamara
01-25-2003, 11:27 PM
Poor Pepper. Sending positive energy his way. I had a cat who had acute pancreatitis at 12 years of age . We caught it in time and he was able to recover from it with a brief hospital stay and meds. Since he is being so closely monitered if this is indeed the problem I'm sure they will be able to treat it. He still looks very handsome even when not feeling well

ChrisH
01-26-2003, 06:02 AM
Thanks for the update, and the pictures!:) Awww, poor Pepper does look rather worn out, but just as handsome despite the baldy bits!:) Glad to hear he is feeling a little better too. Sending prayers and postive thoughts for Mondays vet visit.

Chris

jenluckenbach
01-26-2003, 06:50 AM
Poor Pepper, you don't look yourself yet. So sad and tired. I really hope that you can get better real soon.:( I am glad to see your wonderful face though,now I can REALLY send you a smoochie kiss.

Cataholic
01-26-2003, 09:07 AM
Pepper has lost his pep, hasn't he? BUT, I think with the meds and some more food, and lots of lovin' he will be back to PEPper soon. He looks so sweet and worn out laying there. Just like with hoomans, it will take some time to get back into things. Come on Pepper, eat some more food!!!

mom of 6 cats
01-27-2003, 01:23 AM
waiting for the monday update, and wishing Pepper all the best!

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
01-27-2003, 09:50 AM
Awww....poor Pepper. He really looks like he's not feeling all that well. I know how he feels though because I've pictured myself in just about exactly that same pose a couple of times when I've been sick.

I sure hope his meds are making him feel better and they find something out during his ultrasound today.

Good luck sweet Pepper, I sure hope you're feeling better soon. :)

Cataholic
01-27-2003, 10:59 AM
Waiting and crossing everything....

HayleyRosie
01-27-2003, 11:03 AM
I'm glad to hear Pepper is feeling a little better.

slick
01-27-2003, 11:48 AM
Still sending prayers your way, Dear Pepper!

slick
max & speckles

catland
01-27-2003, 04:15 PM
So sorry that I just now saw this thread. Oh sweet Pepper - hang in there baby.

My in-law's cat had pancreatits last spring, and it is definately something to take seriously. (She pulled through thanks to an excellent emergency vet in our area).

Sending good thoughts and wishes for a speedy recovery your way.

Randi
01-27-2003, 04:56 PM
Poor sweet Pepper, you do look rather sad and tired. :( I hope they'll find the reason when they do the ultrasound, and will be able to treat it!! The medicine may take a few days to start working, but I so hope you'll get back to being your normal self again! We all love you!!

We'll be sending positive thoughts across to you, and keep all our paws and fingers crossed for you sweetie! :)

Get well soon!!

hugs and kisses from us all!

krazyaboutkatz
01-27-2003, 10:25 PM
Here's an update on Pepper. He had his ultrasound late this morning. I was able to be there because the vet's office called me to let me know that the specialist was on his way. The good news is that he saw no tumors, ulcers, masses, or any kind of cancer. His stomach, kidneys, and intestines look normal. The pancreas was hidden so this means that it's not inflamed so he doesn't think that he has pancreatitus. His liver is enlarged and a brighter color than it should be. This can be due to his high glucose level he had earlier. He put a needle into his liver to draw out some cells so they can be tested. His bladder also looked normal but there were some small crystals in it. Pepper hasn't been peeing as much as he should and he may still have a bladder infection. He had another urine test done and his sample looked reddish brown which isn't normal. He also had another blood test to see if his white blood cell count is closer to normal yet. I should get these results some time tomorrow. He hasn't been eating so I'm force feeding him Hill's Prescription Diet a/d. He's also on periaction to help increase his appetite and pepcid tablets 1 twice a day and kaopectate 1tsp. 3-4 times a day to help coat his stomach. He was throwing up green stuff over the weekend which was probably bile so hopefully these things will help. The doctor is still pretty much baffled and if nothing works then I have to see an internal specialist. I sure hope that this will work. I hate to see my baby feeling so poorly. I'll post another update tomorrow when I know his test results.

Nomilynn
01-28-2003, 01:14 AM
Oh dear.. I'm sorry it's such a puzzler. I hope that everything works out.. you are all in my thoughts and prayers.

jenluckenbach
01-28-2003, 04:59 AM
I am at a loss for words. NOT finding anything is always good, but not FINDING anything is so frustrating. I sure wish that Pepper would eat:(

smokey the elder
01-28-2003, 08:02 AM
This is SO like what my RB Smokey had 6 years ago. We did the same thing you're basically doing: gave her an antacid and feeding her tiny feedings almost like a kitten. Sometimes all you can do is treat the symptoms and hope for the best. Problems with eating can turn into an endless loop: they get off their feed, which messes up their liver, causing them to throw up, which makes them EVEN LESS wanting to eat. Anything that can break that cycle, like we did with Smokey may help.

Good luck, and {{hugz}} to you and Pepper.

Barbara
01-28-2003, 08:44 AM
It must be so tough for you to go through this and not really knowing how to help him.

I hope they find out soon .......

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
01-28-2003, 09:20 AM
I'm glad you could be there for the ultrasound. I'm sure it made Pepper feel better, or was he "out" for the whole thing? I'm glad they didn't find anything serious, but then again, it would have been nice if they had found something to indicate what is causing his poor upset tummy. Hopefully his liver is ok. I know when I just took Tubby to the vet she said to make sure that he keeps eating, because if they don't eat their livers will shut down, so maybe Pepper's liver is "irritated" because he's not eating much.

Poor guy, I sure hope all the tests come out ok, but show something so you can start on the right treatment path.

Give him big hugs from me, and hugs to you too. One of the hardest things I know of is to have a sick loved one and not be able to do anything to help. And it makes no difference whatsoever that your particular loved one is a kitty, and in fact, that might make it that much worse because they just don't understand all of what's happening.

Please let us know what the test results are and any progress that Pepper shows. :)

lynnestankard
01-28-2003, 10:26 AM
Tracey just wondering if you got the test results yet? Poor Pepper my heart goes out to him - he looked so sad on those pics., why, why, why do they have to suffer so much?
{{{{Hugs}}}} to you both.
Lynne xxx

NoahsMommy
01-28-2003, 01:20 PM
Poor, sweet Pepper. Those pictures make me want to come over and give him lots of hugs and kisses. Poor thing. :(

Keeping you both in my prayers for an answer soon.

Take care and know that we are here.

slick
01-28-2003, 01:31 PM
So poor Pepper is not out of the woods yet! We still praying for a cause. Not knowing must be heart-breaking. Here's hoping everything works out OK.

luv
slick
max & speckles

krazyaboutkatz
01-29-2003, 12:47 AM
The test results are back and the vet said that he has hepatic lipidosis or fatty liver disease. He doesn't have all of the symptoms though because some of his blood work is normal when it should be very high. This disease is caused by stress, diabetes, irritable bowel syndrome, and infection. He has all of these. He's been stressed out from going to the vets so often, he has more sugar in his urine so he still has diabetes, he probably has irritable bowel syndrome, and he has an infection which is a bladder infection. The vet thinks that he should be able to make a full recovery. I sure hope so. I now know what a vet tech feels like.
I have to force feed him 2 cans of Hills Prescription Diet a/d each day and then give him 2 units of insulin 2 times a day after he eats. He also gets 1 pepcid tablet 2 times a day, 1tsp. of kaopectate 3-4 times a day or as needed, 1/2 periactin pill to help increase his appetite 2 times a day, clindamycin hydrochloride drops 11/2 ml 2 times a day to help his infection, and denosyl sd4 1 tablet 1 time a day for his liver. I also force feed him water and I can give him liquid by IV subcutaneously as needed. I'm also keeping him cooped up in my room during the day so I can monitor his food and fluid intake and output in the litterbox. Storm and Sunny aren't too happy about this since they like to sleep in my room during the day. Oh well they'll have to adjust because it could take a while for Pepper to recover. He'll also have to be on a special diet for his irritable bowel. I sure hope he makes it through this. If all of this doesn't work then I have to be referred to an internal specialist because the vet and radiologist have done everything that they can do. I'm also baffled. He goes in to the vet again on Friday morning for another blood glucose test. I sure hope it's normal. He really needs some prayers and positive energy sent his way. Thank you.

Nomilynn
01-29-2003, 12:57 AM
Oh Pepper! You are surely in my prayers, and what good news that the vet thinks you will be all better soon! Bassett says she knows how you feel - all that pilling and crap.. but hey.. as soon as you are all better - no more fuss!

You are all in my prayers! Good luck!

jenluckenbach
01-29-2003, 05:02 AM
This is very depressing Pepper. All those medicines! How awful for you.:( But all we want is for you to get better! Please hurry and get better.

lynnestankard
01-29-2003, 05:14 AM
Oh Pepper you're going through the mill aren't you lovely furboy.
I'm keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. With the love and care of yoour lovely Mummy you're going to beat this and be back to your normal lovely self before you know it.
{{{{Hugs}}} coming for you Tracey - you've got such a lot on your mind, just to let you know I'm thinking of you and sending lots of positive thoughts your way xxxxx

Lynne

HayleyRosie
01-29-2003, 06:29 AM
Pepper you are in my prayers. You have to be good and take all your meds for your mommy. I know it will be hard. I'm praying you will have a speedy recovery.

All Creatures Great And Small
01-29-2003, 08:29 AM
Well, I think Pepper has one major positive thing going for him, and that's his loving, devoted, and patient meowmie! My head spins just reading the list of meds and procedures he needs each day, but it sounds like you have got it under control. I can't even imagine going through this; I hope you both can get back to normal soon so you can spend more time smooching instead of force-feeding. He is a lovely boy kitty, even with the little shaved parts!

ChrisH
01-29-2003, 09:17 AM
Thank you All Creatures for putting into words what I am thinking, and so much better than I could for sure.

Originally posted by All Creatures Great And Small
Well, I think Pepper has one major positive thing going for him, and that's his loving, devoted, and patient meowmie! My head spins just reading the list of meds and procedures he needs each day, but it sounds like you have got it under control. I can't even imagine going through this; I hope you both can get back to normal soon so you can spend more time smooching instead of force-feeding. He is a lovely boy kitty, even with the little shaved parts!
Tracey, all that I want to add is that sweet Pepper boy and you will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers.

Chris

smokey the elder
01-29-2003, 09:19 AM
Well, Pepper, now that meowmie knows what ails you, you have to be a good boy and help her help you out! That means: eat your food, take your meds and use the litter box. You will be spoiled beyond your wildest dreams. Taking care of a sick kitty can sure be intimidating.

Good luck and everything that can be crossed is! that's a lot of fingers and paws.

Randi
01-29-2003, 09:56 AM
Poor Pepper, you are certainly going through the mill, aren't you! :eek: I hope so much that all that medicine will help to get you back to your normal self!

Lots of nosescritchies and hugs to you and your loving mum. :)

Get well soon, Pepper!! We'll be crossing everything here for you.

gini
01-29-2003, 10:11 AM
Tracey, I emailed you separately, but I want to add here that without a doubt you are the very best Mom a kitty could even dream of having.

Hugs from Rascal and Gini

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
01-29-2003, 11:36 AM
Oh my! :eek: What a lot of medicines for one poor kitty. :( And what a schedule your poor mommy has to remember to make sure you get everything at the right time! If the vet thinks Pepper can make a full recovery then I know he will because I know you'll do everything in your power to make it happen. When he starts fighting the meds, then you'll know he's getting better. ;)

Hugs, prayers, positive thoughts, hugs and whatever else you may need are going out to you and Pepper. Please take all your medicines like a good boy, Pepper, and hopefully you'll be all better soon and all those trips to the white coats will be over with.

Cataholic
01-29-2003, 12:45 PM
Way to keep up the courage, meowmie! Pepper will get better, once at least one of his symptoms go away. Did you think about arranging for a home visit from a traveling vet? Just a thought, cause it does eliminate some of the stress involved, which may help the IBS....Good luck with your progress! Hugs to Pepper that his Pep comes back really soon.

NoahsMommy
01-29-2003, 12:55 PM
Dearest Pepper,
Sweet boy, I'm so sorry you've gotten sick. But...you have some good news...you're going to get better and this will all be over soon. Please cooperate with your mawmee and eat your new yummy food. Just think, you get "special food", Sunny and Storm don't. ;) So, eat it up and drink lots and lots of water. That's what hooman white coats tell us to do. Know that you are in our prayers right now, that there are A LOT of people that care about you and are sending you strength and love. You take care and get better...Sunny and Storm are eager to play with you, like usual. We love you, sweet boy.

Love, Kelly

Tracey,
I'm going to PM you. :)

tatsxxx11
01-29-2003, 02:44 PM
Oh, my dear Pepper! You sure have a lot on your plate, sweetie! Please try and help you Mawmee by taking all of your meds, eating and using your potty. She loves you SO much and is the best Mawmee a furkid could hope for! You've been so brave so far and finally you're on the road to recovery!!

Tracey, maybe you could look into a visting vet or vet tech. I know friends who have been in your situation and found them to be of great help; physical as well as emotional. You can use all the support you can get. Love to you both. Sandra, Mr. B and Oliver!

Miss Meow
01-29-2003, 02:59 PM
My god, poor Pepper. We are thinking of you and Pepper and hoping like crazy that the final tests bring some good news. Be a good boy and help your mummy get you well again.

wolflady
01-29-2003, 08:07 PM
Prayers are still on the way from me too.
**hugs**

krazyaboutkatz
01-30-2003, 12:38 AM
Well Pepper seemed to be doing better but some time between 2:30pm and 8pm he threw up the food that I had fed him at 2pm. It also looks like he threw up the pill that's supposed to help his liver. I gave him this at about 6:45am so I don't know why it wouldn't have been absorbed by his body by then. I gave him more meds and fed him again at around 8pm or so. I sure hope that he's able to keep the food down. If he starts throwing up I really don't know what I'm going to do. :( I really hate to see him like this and I'm becoming emotionally and financially drained.

Barbara
01-30-2003, 03:59 AM
Oh, poor Pepper and pooe Kak - we can only send our hope and our best wishes.
Headbumpie from Filou for Pepper and a nosekissie from Tigris.

Edwina's Secretary
01-30-2003, 08:56 AM
Better to fight a devil you know than a devil you don't know. Thankful for the diagnosis....my thoughts are with you and Pepper.

Randi
01-30-2003, 09:34 AM
Tracey, I'm so very sorry to read the news about Pepper. :( Throwing his pills up is the last you want! What does the vet say to this? Do you think you could get a vet or assistant to come to your place and help? You have so much to deal with right now and must be exhauated. :(

We'll keep our fingers and paws crossed here for you and sweet Pepper! :)

Please get well, Pepper!!

hugs from us all,
Fister, Rand & John

slick
01-30-2003, 01:07 PM
Dear Pepper:
Your pills are supposed to help you and how can they if you keep throwing them up?? Please try to keep them down! I know you and your meowmie are going through alot right now and you are all stressed out and we've asked God to help you through it all. We miss your usual self so please get better soon!

luv
slick
max & speckles

tatsxxx11
01-30-2003, 06:53 PM
Oh, no:(:(:( I'm just wondering if his tummy isn't getting upset by all of those medications. Was the medic. a capsule or a pill? Have you tried crushing the pill or emptying the capsule and mixing it wil some of his food?? He will abosorb it much more quickly that way. I hope the vet was able to give you some help and advice. I too know what it's like to feel so emotinally drained and frustrated when trying to nurse your baby back to health. You know that all of us here will share with you all of our strength and support to help you through this difficult time. My Mr. B was recently diagnosed with diabetes and we're trying hard to get him regulated,eating, etc. Please know we're thinking of you and sending our prayers. Mr. B and Oliver send you and Pepper purrrrs, paw pats and headbumpies...and of course lots of love. Sandra

NoahsMommy
01-30-2003, 09:51 PM
How is Pepper doing now? Did he keep his pills and food in today??

Poor baby! :(

krazyaboutkatz
01-31-2003, 12:11 AM
I just want to thank everyone for your support, prayers, and concerns for Pepper. Today was a better day. He threw up a little bit of food early this morning and this was after I had given him his liver pill. This food was also from last nights feeding. So far he's kept down all of his meds today. He did have a little bit of diarrhea this afternoon. I'm mixing in a tsp. of nonpreservative plain yogurt in with his food to help his diarrhea. I have to leave it out at room temperature for at least 4 hours before I give it to him so that bacteria will grow on it so it will help his tummy. So far it seems to help some of the time but he still has a little bit of diarrhea. Pepper is also becoming more fiesty so I hope that this means that he's starting to feel better. He still won't eat or drink on his own and he's not peeing very much at all. He probably still has a bladder infection. He goes to the vet tomorrow morning for his blood glucose test. I sure hope that his blood sugar is back to normal. I'll update you when I know any more info.

popcornbird
01-31-2003, 12:15 AM
Oh Pepper, please get well soon! Your mommy doesn't like it when you are ill. She gets all worried. :( Hope you get well soon and are back to your healthy self in no time!

Nomilynn
01-31-2003, 12:33 AM
Pepper my boy! Good to know you are doing a little better, and you are more playful! You are all still in my thoughts and prayers!

Cataholic
01-31-2003, 07:39 AM
Come on Pepper, get better! I hope the white coat visit today goes well. Looking forward to the update!

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
01-31-2003, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by krazyaboutkatz
Pepper is also becoming more fiesty

Yea!!! Fiesty is good! Come on Pepper, we can tell you're trying, and you mommy's doing everything she can so between the two of you, and a little help from the vet, I know you'll be better in no time!

Still thinking, praying, crossing and sending good vibes for both of you. Hopefully there will only be good news today. :)

rosethecopycat
01-31-2003, 11:25 AM
Dear Pepper,

I have been away since the day you first posted till today. I only have limited access to a computer. I'm so sorry you feel bad.

Please be a good big boy and help your mommy get you better, ok?

Where are those two fire dogs to help explain why you have to take those nasty pills?


Get well soon, Pepper.

slick
01-31-2003, 11:47 AM
Pepper, so glad you becoming more fiesty! That is a good sign. Please be good and know that all these meds are for your own good and will hopefully make you feel even more better fast! We know you can do it!

luv and prayers
slick
max & speckles

Randi
01-31-2003, 11:52 AM
Pepper, we're still thinking of you and sending good vibes for a positive result tomorrow at the vet. Glad to hear you've been able to keep more food inside. :)

Get well soon dear Pepper! ;)

ChrisH
01-31-2003, 12:18 PM
It is good to hear of Pepper being even a tiny bit better. Continuing prayers for the both of you. Hope there are good results from the vets.

love and hugs
Chris

jenluckenbach
01-31-2003, 02:04 PM
Dear Pepper, How are you, buddy? I've been so worried. Are you feeling any better at all today? I sure hope you can be back to your old self real soon.
Jen

AmberLee
01-31-2003, 09:44 PM
Dear KAK, Thinking of you and your handsome darling and hoping for an update. Fingers and paws are crossed here for even MORE feisty. Feisty is GOOD!

jenluckenbach
02-01-2003, 06:23 AM
How,s Pepper? I am used to getting a nightly update. (talk about spoiled). They say "no news is good news", but I worry.

krazyaboutkatz
02-01-2003, 10:12 AM
Hi everyone. Thanks again for all of your concerns. I didn't log on yesterday because I was just too tired. Pepper's blood glucose level was about 130 so the vet said that the insulin is working. He has to go back on Wed. for a blood glucose curve test which will last all day. I asked the vet about his urine sensitivity test. This is supposed to tell us which antibiotic will be best for his bladder infection. Well some how the test was never done so they took more urine from Pepper and hopefully I'll know something by Monday. This time his urine looked normal because last time it was a red brown color. Since Pepper is having such a hard time keeping his pills down, I'm now crushing up his pills in his food and I'm using a product called Viokase-V which is a digestive enzyme medicine. I have to put 1/2tsp. of it in his food and let it sit for 20 minutes at room temperature. I sure hope that this makes it easier on Pepper's tummy. Pepper has also gained some weight back. :) He's now about 15.03lbs. which is a perfect weight for him. He's still not interested in eating or drinking by himself but like I said before he's becoming more fiesty and he even ran down the hall yesterday because he didn't want his food.

ChrisH
02-01-2003, 01:56 PM
Thanks for the update Tracey, it is good to hear that Pepper has made some more small steps forward:) hope he will be making bigger and bigger ones each day.

Love and hugs to you both (and a hug each for Storm and Sunny too!:))

Chris

krazyaboutkatz
02-01-2003, 06:58 PM
Well I wish that I had some good news about Pepper. He's still throwing up and I just don't know what else to do for him. :( I need everyone's advice. If you don't want to post it publicly you can PM me about it. Right now I'm emotionally drained and I really don't know if I'm going to be able to deal with Pepper's illness much longer. I already owe my vet over $1000 dollars and I don't even know how I'm going to pay him for this amount. I know this probably sounds like I'm being a bad mommy but it just seems like nothing is working and I really hate seeing Pepper feeling so badly. :( Maybe it's time to say goodbye to him. :( I love him very much and it's going to be the hardest thing that I've done in my life but maybe this is my only other alternative. :( Please help me here. I just don't know what to do any more. :(

jenluckenbach
02-01-2003, 08:23 PM
Be strong, Tracey. I PM'd you.

Cataholic
02-01-2003, 10:24 PM
Tracy,
Hold on!!!! You never know what is just around the corner!!!

shais_mom
02-01-2003, 11:24 PM
Oh Tracey, you are in my thoughts and prayers.

Nomilynn
02-02-2003, 01:14 AM
I've PMd you too - you are in my prayers

popcornbird
02-02-2003, 03:00 AM
I PM'd you. Please don't give up and put him down. I pray that God will open a way for your baby Pepper to heal and get well from his illness. :(

Barbara
02-02-2003, 04:54 AM
Paws and fingers crossed: there still is hope.:)

HayleyRosie
02-02-2003, 12:14 PM
Tracey, don't give up on hope. I know it's hard right now but things can change really fast. I will keep praying for you and Pepper. Don't give up.

Russian Blue
02-02-2003, 01:29 PM
Please don't give up !!! There is always fear in the unknown and trying to decide what is best.

Have you considered seeing another vet or hospital? I am so sorry that you and Pepper are so exhausted. Try to talk maybe to another vet and see if there is another alternative you haven't explored.

I know it's not much, but I'm sending you every warm healing vibe I can.

((((((Hugs))))))

:(

jenluckenbach
02-02-2003, 06:08 PM
I want you to see my thoughts on this subject. I PM'd this to KAK. Don't be too hard on her, this is a tough time.



Tracey,
I am in tears but I want to be honest. I would have made this decision already, if it had been me. I love my cats to death, and I have agonized over this type of decision before, and I say, let him go if you can. I often think that when they can't or won't eat it is their way of saying, "mom, I give up. It is too hard for me". You do not have any reason to feel guilty, you have done everything. More than everything! Give him the greatest big hug, tell him you love him and you don't want him to suffer. Peace be with you. I know this is hard.
Jen

zippy-kat
02-02-2003, 11:39 PM
Dear Tracy and Pepper....

My thoughts are with you during this time. I wish you courage and peace of mind. If you need anything at all, please don't hesitate. We're here for you.

Miss Meow
02-03-2003, 02:25 AM
Tracey, you know Pepper better than anyone and will know when it's time to make that sort of decision. But for your own conscience please wait for all the test results and make this decision after a good night's sleep (if you can) so you have a clear head. Pepper hates this too, but he's trying as hard as he can for you. Hang in there. {{hugs}}

rosethecopycat
02-03-2003, 07:47 AM
Dear Pepper,

Could you please try some more for your Mommy? She loves you so.

I know it's hard, but please find the strength to fight a bit more.

You are in my prayers, big boy.

krazyaboutkatz
02-03-2003, 11:51 AM
I just want to let you all know that Pepper is at Rainbow Bridge. I made the decision to have him put to sleep this morning. I started a thread about it in cat general. Thank you all for your prayers, concerns, and support.

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
02-03-2003, 12:01 PM
OMG! I'm soo sorry, Tracey. :( I had just posted a reply at the same time you posted about Pepper being at RB. I am in shock because I didn't see the progression of this thread over the weekend, but I want to tell you how sorry I am that you had to make such a difficult decision. Part of the reply that I originally posted was that whatever decision you made, we all knew it would be what was best for Pepper.

Do not feel guilty, but know that you did your best for him. He had a happy, loving, caring home and that's the best thing you could have done for him.

I can't imagine what you are going through right now. Please accept my condolences.

Sweet Pepper, I hope you feel much better now at RB. Your mommy misses you dearly already. Rest in peace sweet boy. :(

slick
02-03-2003, 02:22 PM
Oh Pepper, you are no longer in pain and can run and play with ther others.

I can't imagine the pain you must be in, KAK. You are in our hearts and prayers!

luv
slick
max & speckles

kimlovescats
02-03-2003, 09:54 PM
My deepest sympathy to you, but your Pepper is no longer suffering! Try to find comfort in knowing you did the best for him!

NoahsMommy
02-04-2003, 04:10 PM
Oh no! :( :( :( :( :( :(

I'm so very sorry Tracey. I can't imagine your pain, but hopefully knowing that you gave him the greatest love anyone ever could can repair your heart. You are a wonderful, wonderful person for all you did for that sweet boy.

Like everyone has said so far, he is in the best place possible. While he was here, he was but a lovely seed...now at Rainbow Bridge, he has blossomed into his full glory. Filled with happiness, forgetting what pain was.

God bless you, Sunny and Storm. I hope that with time, your pain is gone.

(((((HUGS)))))