german shep puppies?

[lexie]

i have a female dog that is 80%german shepherd and 20% malamute. looks just like a german shepherd. you can't even tell there's malamute in her. i want to breed her. i know an akc registered male german shepherd that wants to breed with her. she is getting ready to go into her third heat. if i breed her will the pups be german shepherd? or atleast look just like a shep. :confused:

[mugsy]

Lexie, please don't breed her, there are too many needy animals being killed in shelters everyday, they don't need anymore competition.

[lexie]

but would they be pruebreed? i have bred a litter before from another dog. (border collie) i currently have one of her pups back. if the owner could no longer care for the animal. i will take it back. does that not help?

[Karen]

They would not be considered purebred. Both parents have to be purebred for the pups to be. Why do you breed her?

[mugsy]

I'm just very interested in rescue. I wish there would be a moratorium on any breeding for a period of 5 years and get some of these unwanted animals adopted. And make it REALLY hard on anyone who broke the law. It helps to take them back, but, if you didn't have a litter, maybe the people who took a pup would have gone to the shelter to get a dog instead. Just my 2 cents. I'd be interested in knowing why you breed them also.

[mel55smiles]

DON'T BREED HER, IF PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING PUREBRED LOOKING PUPS, IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT THE MALUMATE IN HER COULD COME OUT IN HER PUP..

I RECCOMEND GETTING HER SPAYED

[SkyeGSD]

What is your bitchs OFA rating? I wouldn't dare breed a dog without an OFA rating, that is very irresponsible
If you breed your bitch it will put you in the same category as a backyard breeder. :(


If you are interested in breeding, save up your money, research a reputable breeder, find a mentor and get all the necessary health clearences done on your dog and TITLE it!!!
Because not every dog is worthy of being bred, even most "purebreds". ;)

[mugsy]

EVERY dog is worthy of whatever it is. I, however, don't believe at this time, ANY dog should be bred, for ANY reason when there are thousands of unwanted animals. And, I believe that mutts are the best dogs out there anyway since they do not have the genetic defects that many "pure" breeds have since the defects are recessive genes, so are not passed on with a mixed breed. Also, mixed breeds are most often much prettier.

[wolf_Q]

The dog is not a purebred, and just because the dog *looks* like a german shepard there's no way to tell what the puppies will look like. It's very possible the malamute in her would come out in some of the pups.

Besides, even if she WAS purebred, that is no reason to breed her! Even if she was AKC there is *still* no reason to breed her!

I'm sorry, not trying to sound rude......but too many people breed dogs for entirely wrong reasons. There's enough dogs in this world...

Please give your dog the love she deserves by having her spayed. She will be a nicer dog, and it will help prevent health problems.

[wolf_Q]

Originally posted by mugsy
EVERY dog is worthy of whatever it is. I, however, don't believe at this time, ANY dog should be bred, for ANY reason when there are thousands of unwanted animals. And, I believe that mutts are the best dogs out there anyway since they do not have the genetic defects that many "pure" breeds have since the defects are recessive genes, so are not passed on with a mixed breed. Also, mixed breeds are most often much prettier.

I love mutts too, but I also love purebreds. I'm sorry, but I'm glad we have dog breeds and people who continue to preserve the breeds. There is a need for RESPONSIBLE breeders to continue to keep the many dog breeds around. If there were not such a variety in dog breeds, there would not be much of a variety in mutts either. Just think...picture a chihuahua and then a great dane...that variety in a species did not happen on its own. I think its amazing to see some of the breeds, such as sighthounds, and know they have looked like this for so many years...its like looking into the past.

BUT, if you read my post above, I'm aware that there are way too many homeless dogs and way to many irresponsible people breeding them....

[SkyeGSD]

I agree with the above post!

Think of this, if there were not "Breeders" or "dog breeds" you would have no police dogs, herding dogs, sight hounds, hunting dogs etc. These traits were specifically bred for and preserved through selective breeding based on these traits. The dogs with bad temperament are not good candidates for breeding, that is where titling comes into place to prove the dogs "breed worthy".

Without dog breeds or breeders there would have been no search and rescue team in NYC on 9/11....

I commend responsible, ethical breeders! As they put everything they have into what they produce. There is a GREAT deal of money invested in titling and health certifying a dog. Whether it be paying handling fees, show expenses, travelling across the country to trial your dog, or shipping a dog off to Germany for their SchH titles etc. Most of my dog friends have a litter once every few years IF they're lucky. I'm not saying mixes can't "work" by any means, but the majority of dogs do the job a lot more effectively/consistantly when that trait has been specifically bred for. :)

[Aspen and Misty]

DO NOT BREED HER!!!! The pupies will NOT be pur bred! THere are enough unwanted animals in this world!!! You are breding for the wrong resons! Anyone who breeds should only breed to preserve the breed! I don't understand backyard breeders, why do they breed there mutts to make more mutts? Not saying mutts are bad as I haev a very adorable oen named Chewy. But you need to spay your dog, there is no reson what so ever for you to be breeding her!

Ash

[i_luv_dogz]

I agree with most of yall don't breed her. If you do so of the dogs might not be sold and you might not have enough room in your house to keep all of them. Now I 'm not pround of my friend for this and i grip at him for it all the time but if his step dad dosen't like the animals that they get they go and dump them to starve and about 1/2 out of all the dogs they didn't this to get picked up or saved. I rescued a golden reteiver who was dumped (woofy is his name). And also if you breed some times people get dogs to beat and abuse. Ex: remeber that guy in oklahome that cot a dog on fire and throw it out the window. well i think i have talked enough.

Alonna;)

[lexie]

ok it makes sense. but can i ask where you get your purebreed dogs. i realized that one of you has a husky. did you get that from a breeder? alot of you also talk about on other boards about getting malteeses,labs,and not too long ago a person got sheltie. are these people getting their dogs from breeders?

just thought i might ask.i'm not trying to be rude.

[wolf_Q]

Originally posted by lexie
ok it makes sense. but can i ask where you get your purebreed dogs. i realized that one of you has a husky. did you get that from a breeder? alot of you also talk about on other boards about getting malteeses,labs,and not too long ago a person got sheltie. are these people getting their dogs from breeders?

just thought i might ask.i'm not trying to be rude.

All of my dogs are purebred. And no, they are not AKC high standard purebreds either. They were all the last of the litters that nobody wanted...the older puppies, that I'm sure if they weren't sold soon, they would end up at a shelter. If you read *my* post I am not condemming *all* breeders........I, personally, just don't see that *you* have any reason to breed your dog and I think it's a bad idea.

[Crikit]

A good deal of the people on the boards got there purebreds from breed rescues or shelters while others got them from breeders. I personally have three dogs, a mutt and two purebreeds the purebreeds however are both rescues who have issues.

[Karen]

There are people on this board, as was just stated, both with purebreds from shelters, breed rescue places and from breeders. Dogs that are bred responsibly are first checked for tendancies toward hip displaysia and other problems. They are screened by veterinarians. This is not something done casually.

No one would wish to eliminate all "breeds" and breeders, but we all wish that there were not sheleters full of dogs and puppies without homes, and that millions of dogs weren't euthanized each year for that same reason.

Your original post asked if the pups would be considered purebred. The answer is simple. No.

[primabella]

i have a sheltie that i recently bought from a very reputable breeder. i wish i could adopt but my dad only agreed to get a small dog and the only ones at the shelter were GSD's and big mixes. we wanted a sheltie and so bought one from a litter.

once i get older, i know i'm going to have at least 2 dogs and i'm going to want them to be from the shelter, but for my first dog ever, my dad wanted us to make sure we knew what we were getting (purbred) and to have it from a pup so we could go through all the steps with him.

that's my reason for having a purebred from a shelter and that's all.

[lexie]

i currently have a pomarainan that i got from the shelter. a border collie i bought from a breeder,a german shepherd mix that i got for a christmas presant, and one of the border collie pups.

now my border collie is ckc registered. she has been in my local agility. and other things like that. now please understand that i will not breed any breed of dog that is very comon like labs,begles,dalmations,chihuahuas...etc....

ok i will not breed her. you all are just making too much sense:D

problem solved. thanks to all those who helped me.

[primabella]

thanks :) you are doing her a favor as well by spaying her. :) (you will be spaying her right?)
hope you didn't take it personally or anything. i know i didn't mean anything bad by my post. just had to clear some things up :p now...do you have any pics?:D i love poms, sheps and especially..border collies :D

[Crikit]

a CKC registered border collie? just wondering if you mean Candian Kennel Club becasuse the CKC doesn't accept border collies to be registered.

[lexie]

i won't be able to spay her for another 2 months. i'll see what i can do for pics.:D

[KYS]

Good for you for spaying her in 2 months.
I will not even put my 2 cents in, since everybody
else did. lol
I never hesitated in spaying and neutering my pure
breed dogs.
I think their is a need for "reputable breeders",
and I will leave the breeding to them and not
become a BYB. : )

[zman99]

Why would you intentionally breed mutts?

[Karen]

She has decided not to breed. Thank you, Lexie, from all the unwanted doggies who might now get homes!

[wolf_Q]

Originally posted by lexie
i currently have a pomarainan that i got from the shelter. a border collie i bought from a breeder,a german shepherd mix that i got for a christmas presant, and one of the border collie pups.

now my border collie is ckc registered. she has been in my local agility. and other things like that. now please understand that i will not breed any breed of dog that is very comon like labs,begles,dalmations,chihuahuas...etc....

ok i will not breed her. you all are just making too much sense:D

problem solved. thanks to all those who helped me.

I'm glad you decided not to breed her! Please let us know how it goes with her spay, and we'd love to see some pics of all of your dogs!

p.s. you said you would not breed any breed of dog that is common.......german shepards and shepard mixes really are *very* common. Well, at least from the few times I've visited the shelters just around here, most of the dogs were either german shepard, pit bull, rottweiler, or lab mixes.

[*LabLoverKEB*]

Lexie, no, the pups will not be purebred. One of her parents was prably German Shepherd Dog, and the other parent was Malamute. So, she is not purebred eathier. I would not breed her if I were you!:) ;)

[*LabLoverKEB*]

Thanks you so much for not breeding her! You made a wonderful choice!:) ;)

SkyeGSD, is that your dog in that picture on your website?? He is beautiful!

[ChewmonkeyBC]

Glad u decided not to breed your shepherd...i was going to breed shelties but decided not to(2-3yrs ago) then i found out about puppy mills and the shelters having to put down lots of dogs every year and decided to do a small "Rescue"......

Believ it or not I got my AKC Border Collie free to a good home!!She came with papers and every thing and has been lots of fun!!Very glad I found her..Well I say for free,but including the gass money from Texarkana to Nachadoshis (glad I have a loving father):):) but she is lots of fun.....

-Kay-



FCRDCC:D

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by lexie

now my border collie is ckc registered.
When were you able to register your border collie? i have a magazine thats dated 2000 and it says border collies were still unable to be registered in canada. either way, im glad they r registerable here finally. they've been in canada for such a long time, you would think they would clue in and recognise them lol

[Black Swan]

Back yard breeding only compounds the problem and population of unwanted animals. Spay your bitch, and enjoy the gifts she brings to your life. To breed her is simply irresponsible.

btw ... genetics come without a guarantee of outcome.

[lexie]

i went on a small vacation and i left my dogs with a friend of mine. she thought she was doing a good thing by,well ....ok here comes the bad part.........her male dog is going to be a daddy. i went to her house to pick up my dogs and her husband kept saying they did it. i was like "what did you do?" then they told me....."we bred her" my jaw dropped. i then told them i forgot to tell them i had changed my mind...........well i guess this means i will be posting pics of them when they are born.:( i will be looking for homes. if any of you want one. i havn't decided on (an ADOPTION fee) yet,but if anyone has a place in there home for a puppy in a few months let me know. don't e-mail me though. i never check it.

[primabella]

oh...:( well, it wasn't your fault. i just hope the pups are healthy and got to good homes.

[KYS]

What a shame. I too hope the mother and puppies will be ok.
Maybe you should forget about that Great Dane puppy
and keep one of your own puppies.
At least that will be one less good home
to worry about.
Than spay, so accidents like this will not happen.

[lexie]

i canceled the dane puppy already.
i will keep one of her pups. i don't plan on taking any to the shelter witch is what the people told me that i should do since i changed my mind. what would be a good fee for the pups? i need all the opinions i can get. i would love for one or more of the pups to go to someone on this board because i could check up on it and know it would be going to a great home.:)

[Karen]

Figure out what it will cost in vet fees and spaying for mama (and the extra food for mama during her pregnancy!), after the pups are born, then divide by the number of puppies! Will the owner of the daddy dog want a pup?

[lexie]

i don't know if they will or not. i can ask tomarrow. would they get it for free or what? would i not include the pup i am keeping with the price? thanks for helping.

[Karen]

No, they should pay something, unless they share the vet/food bills with you. And it's up to you whether you include the pup you're keeping in the math!

[lexie]

ok.i don't think they are going tohelp pay. so i should charge a fee for a pup. thanks.

[lexie]

another thing. the puppy that i keep. will the mother and pup be very bonded? unseprable? or what?

[lizbud]

What a Shame :(

Poor Momma Dog, poor pups. :( :( :(