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Karen
10-05-2010, 12:54 PM
There is a bill up for vote in Missouri that would ban puppy mills. But instead of this being a simple thing you'd think everyone with a heart would vote for, people are trying to turn it into a politically divisive issue.

Some Tea Party folks - and Joe the Plumber from the last Presidential election cycle, among others - are trying to tell everyone to vote NO on Prop. B, because it is "anti-business" and "radical" - which is just not true. They say it is trying to make it more expensive for individual families to own dogs. They claim it "limits the number of dogs" a "family" can own. They claim no one could possibly comply with the regulations.

None of this is true. Okay, it does "limits the number of dogs" a "family" can own - but the limit is 50 dogs. Do you know any family who has 50 dogs?

It demands such "radical" measures as


... Any person having custody or ownership of more than ten female covered dogs for the purpose of breeding those animals and selling any offspring for use as a pet shall provide each covered dog:

(1) Sufficient food and clean water;

(2) Necessary veterinary care;

(3) Sufficient housing, including protection from the elements;

(4) Sufficient space to turn and stretch freely, lie down, and fully extend his or her limbs;

(5) Regular exercise; and

(6) Adequate rest between breeding cycles.

Does this sound "radical" to you? "Anti-business?" Or like common sense and decency?

Here is the actual statute: Proposition B (http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/2010petitions/2010-085.asp)

Missouri has an estimated 30% of the puppy mills known in operation in the US. If you buy a puppy from a pet store, there's a pretty good chance it came from these horrible places.

And how would this make it more expensive for families to own pets? The same dog you can get for a small adoption fee from a rescue or shelter can cost $800 or more at a "store," and people who don't know better pay that money, and sometimes end up with a very sick pup, and/or one with genetic problems from poor breeding.

Oh, sometimes people make me so angry!

If you live in Missouri or know anyone who does, please, please tell them if they have any doubts, read the actual proposition. It is pretty straightforward and would serve to outlaw many of these horrible, horrible places.

lizbud
10-05-2010, 01:14 PM
Join the campaign & also get email alerts & the latest news on Prop B.


Also, a little info on Prop B & it's opponents. People who make money
exploiting animals don't want to do any more than the bare minimum on
care or food. They want to breed as many as possible & ship them out for
cash as soon as possible.


http://yesonpropb.com/index.php?q=about/sick-puppies

Grace
10-05-2010, 01:15 PM
Hopefully the people of Missouri will have enough common sense to ignore those idiots. Joe is from Ohio, isn't he - what is he doing sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong? Hasn't he already had his 15 minutes of fame?

Freedom
10-05-2010, 01:39 PM
Do you know any family who has 50 dogs?

With foster pup Willy, I have 5 dogs and wow it is a ton of work. A "family" does not have 50 dogs, a business does. Even a hunting club with 50 dogs takes care of them! So they can't be the ones against this either It is business, that is all.

Thanks for posting, Karen. I am going to put something about this on my Facebook status, to try and spread the word.

smokey the elder
10-05-2010, 02:37 PM
I wouldn't want to take care of 50 cats, never mind 50 dogs!

Karen
10-05-2010, 07:22 PM
I have seen other ads that have people saying "They want to kill the puppies" about the people that are for this bill. How awful, base and manipulative can politicians get?

No one wants to "kill the puppies," they want to save the poor dogs that are in horrible pain and misery right now, and keep more pups from being bred in horrible conditions.

Marigold2
10-05-2010, 10:56 PM
People will hopefully read the bill and use their brain. Is there anything PT can do?

lizbud
10-07-2010, 10:11 AM
I was reading some of the letters to the Editor type stuff in Missouri
papers about prop B. Here's one pro prop B I thought was really good....

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2010/10/04/letter-love-your-best-friend-and-support-prop-b/



October 5, 2010 | 12:11 p.m.
Maybe this will help clarify this issue. It won't sway the Neanderthals lurking here though..only a large club can accomplish that..

RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS VS. DOG-FARMERS:

A responsible dog breeder IS NOT IN IT FOR THE MONEY.

A responsible dog breeder wants nothing more than to improve their particular beloved breed.

A responsible dog breeder breeds for QUALITY..

THEY DO NOT BREED FOR QUANTITY.

A responsible breeder does not house their dogs in pig-pens and chicken coops all the time whining about how much they love their 'babies'.

A responsible breeder considers ALL their dogs as part of the family, which means that their dogs spend much of their time INSIDE the house WITH THE FAMILY.

Responsible breeders do not live/breed in motorized recreational vehicles or in trailer-parks.

A responsible breeder's dogs are visible to the public ... they are not housed off-site or in the woods or in a lean-to back behind BillyBob's corn field.

A responsible breeder NEVER EVER 'CROSSBREEDS'.

A responsible breeder DOES NOT BREED THEIR FEMALES TO DEATH.

A responsible breeder employs a responsible veterinarian for ALL medical/surgical needs and does not hack off tails and ears with tin shears.

A responsible breeder does not allow fleas ticks mats sores untreated wounds rotting teeth or any other third-world nasties ANYWHERE NEAR THEIR DOGS.

Responsible breeders do not sell their 'unwanted' dogs at auction, or take them out 'back the barn and shoot them, or gas them with papaw's truck exhaust and toss the bodies in a ditch.

A responsible dog breeder is licensed, regulated inspected and therefore PAYS THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES.

Anyone else is a fraud, a sham, an embarrassment a troglodyte sub-human throwback.

A RESPONSIBLE FARMER DOES NOT BREED DOGS!

THEY ARE TOO BUSY DOING THEIR REAL WORK!

Marigold2
10-07-2010, 12:19 PM
Excellent post Lizbud

phesina
10-07-2010, 06:43 PM
I passed this information on to a friend of mine whom I first met when I lived in Cambridge (we both volunteered at a cat shelter there) who now lives in Oregon... she grew up around St. Louis. I sent it to her in the hopes that she still knows people there she can pass it on to.

I haven't heard back from her yet, but I know she is swamped with her job (teacher for special-needs children) and her own several animals and all the animals around Springfield OR she is working to rescue..

wombat2u2004
10-08-2010, 08:24 AM
There's always idiots who want to have their say.

Grace
11-03-2010, 11:30 AM
The bill passed.


November 3, 2010
Puppy mill bill passes in Missouri

The extremely controversial bill intended to crack down on large-scale Missouri breeders narrowly passed last night.

The Kansas City Star reports that the bill had about 51 percent of the vote with nearly all precincts reporting. Known as the "puppy mill bill," Proposition B would limit the number of breeding dogs a breeder could have, increase living space for animals, expand requirements for vet care and create criminal penalties for those who violate these standards.

The bill will become law next November.

Grace
11-03-2010, 11:32 AM
I found another, larger, article about this.

From the Kansas City Star - http://midwestdemocracyproject.org/articles/limit-dog-breeders-narrowly-passes/

Freedom
11-03-2010, 11:51 AM
Great news that it passed!

Thanks for the update.

lizbud
11-03-2010, 01:04 PM
Thank you Grace for following up on this bill and sharing the GOOD NEWS.:)

and THANK YOU MISSOURI.:):)

phesina
11-03-2010, 01:34 PM
HALLELUJAH!!!!!

I'm SO glad it passed!