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lizbud
01-25-2010, 05:52 PM
The Court's recent decision gives unheard of power to big busines.
Their influence over future political candidates can be unstopable. If
this isn't a "call to "arms" , I don't know what is. :mad:


Supreme Court ruling calls for a populist revolt


By E.J. Dionne Jr.
Monday, January 25, 2010

"Populism" is the most overused and misused word in the lexicon of commentary. But thanks to a reckless decision by Chief Justice John Roberts's Supreme Court and the greed of the nation's financial barons, we have reached a true populist moment in American politics.

The Supreme Court's 5-to-4 decision last week giving American corporations the right to unlimited political spending was an astonishing display of judicial arrogance, overreach and unjustified activism.

Turning its back on a century of practice and decades of precedent, a narrow right-wing majority on the court decided to change the American political system by tilting it decisively in favor of corporate interests.

An unusually blunt headline in Friday's print edition of The New York Times told the story succinctly: "Lobbies' New Power: Cross Us, and Our Cash Will Bury You."

Think of this rather persuasive moment in a chat between a corporate lobbyist and a senator: "Are you going to block that taxpayer bailout we want? Well, I'm really sorry, but we're going to have to run $2 million worth of really vicious ads against you." The same exchange might take place on tax breaks, consumer protections, environmental rules and worker safeguards.

Defenders of this vast expansion of corporate influence piously claim it's about "free speech." But since when is a corporation, a creation of laws passed by governments, entitled to the same rights as an individual citizen? This ruling will give large business entities far more power than any individual, unless you happen to be Michael Bloomberg or Bill Gates.

The only proper response to this distortion of our political system by ideologically driven justices is a popular revolt. It would be a revolt of a sort deeply rooted in the American political tradition. The most vibrant reform alliances in our history have involved coalitions between populists (who stand up for the interests and values of average citizens) and progressives (who fight against corruption in government and for institutional changes to improve the workings of our democracy). It's time for a new populist-progressive alliance.


This court ruling should also challenge the fake populism we have seen of late. It disguises a defense of the interests of the powerful behind crowd-pleasing rhetoric against "Washington," "taxes" and, yes, "Obama."

President Obama has helped feed this faux populist revolt by failing to understand until recently how deeply frustrated politically moderate, middle-class Americans are over policies that bailed out the banks while leaving behind millions of unemployed and millions more alarmed about their economic futures.

If average voters came to see government primarily as an instrument of the banks, why should they believe that the same government could help them on matters of health care and employment? This problem was aggravated by puffed-up, self-involved U.S. senators who conspired to make the legislative process look as ugly and chaotic as possible.

Obama began turning toward populism before the results of the Massachusetts Senate race rolled in. Republican Scott Brown's victory made the new turn imperative.

The president has now offered a modest tax on the big financial institutions to cover the costs of bailouts, and a tougher approach to banks that will limit their size and their capacity to make economy-wrecking financial bets. It's a decent start, and it's about time.

Next will come legislation to turn back the Supreme Court's effort to undermine American democracy. Sen. Charles E. Schumer and Rep. Chris Van Hollen are working with the White House on a measure to rein in the reach of the Supreme Court ruling.

Their bill is still being written, but the ideas they're considering include prohibiting political spending by corporations that receive government money, hire lobbyists or make most of their income abroad.

And shouldn't shareholders have the right to vote before a corporation spends money on politics? Do we want foreign-owned corporations, especially those owned by foreign governments, to exercise an undue influence in our politics? Imagine what an enterprise owned or influenced by the Chinese or Russian governments might try to do to a politician who campaigns too ardently for human rights?

My favorite idea: Requiring chief executives to appear in ads their corporations sponsor, exactly as politicians have to do. ("I'm Joe Smith, the chief executive of Acme Consolidated Megacorporation, and I approve this message.")

President Obama was right to invoke Teddy Roosevelt in his radio address on Saturday. American democracy and the square deal in government for which TR battled are in jeopardy.

Puckstop31
01-26-2010, 08:06 AM
Its moments like these why I am now ever so grateful for President Obama. He is such a polarizing figure that everybody is now paying at least a little attention to what is going on. So, because the people are so engaged, I am not so sure that "Big Business" will have THAT much power. I think people will see the forest for the trees if they overstep their bounds.

Further, indeed some businesses were overly greedy. But I never cease to wonder how the government and pundits get away with saying that business took to many big "risks". They were MANDATED to make those risky loans. MANDATED as in by law passed during the Clinton Administration.

Big companies that are publicly traded have a obligation to make as big a profit as possible for their shareholders. I certainly want the companies I invest in to make as much money as possible. Can we have a debate about how much/how these companies influence political candidates? Sure. But to insinuate that big companies are purely just "at all costs" greed machines, is absurd. It does however explain why our economy is in the tank right now.


As for a "populist" revolt... LOL I think its already happening Mr. Dionne, its just not going in the direction you and yours want it to. The people ARE engaged and paying attention.

lizbud
01-26-2010, 05:02 PM
It strikes me as very odd when a Corporation can be accorded
rights that are denied unborn human babies.

Puckstop31
01-26-2010, 06:41 PM
I'm not sure what your angle is there Liz... But if you mean that big business being granted a "right to life" (aka, 'to big to fail).... We agree.


NO company is to big to fail. Thus, why bailing them out was a bad idea.

Lady's Human
01-26-2010, 11:10 PM
The only arrogance was in the McCain Feingold legislation itself.

Congress CANNOT override the Constitution without amending it. The limitations on when advertisements could be aired was clearly unconstitutional.

Remember, too, that these limitations were placed on Unions as well as businesses. Everyone was muzzled.

blue
01-26-2010, 11:13 PM
The ruling has changed nothing.

lizbud
01-27-2010, 05:12 PM
I like #5 :)


Corporations Ain't People: Top 10 Responses posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel on 01/26/2010 @ 4:32pm


Now that the Supreme Court has ruled that corporations are people, free to flood campaigns with cash contributions so that the voices of, well--real people--are drowned out, the stakes and emotions around this issue are high. Rightly so. Here are 10 creative replies to this monstrous decision (in no particular order). I welcome your own suggestions below.



1) "If corporations are 'people' then HEY it's time to re-institute the draft..." --ddeclue, Democratic Underground



2) "Corporations are legally people. And it makes sense, folks. They do everything people do except breath, die, and go to jail for dumping 1.3 million pounds of PCBs into the Hudson River." --Stephen Colbert, The Colbert Report



3) "A corporation has no soul to be damned, no body to be kicked, and that is why corporations essentially get away with murder in matters like compensation." --Nell Minow, Editor and Founder, The Corporate Library



4) "Will SCOTUS give gay corporations the right to marry?" --@mattyglesias



5) "If corporations get the same privileges as people, then people should have the same privileges as corporations. BAIL US OUT!!" --munklanis, reddit.com



6) "Corporations are an oppressed minority forced to move headquarters from state to state in search of friendlier tax codes--sometimes being forced to live just off our shores in tiny mailboxes." --John Oliver, The Daily Show



7) "Restrict Personhood 2 those who bleed...Goldman doesn't bleed. Do Glenn Beck, Cheney, Blankfein?" --@hughsansom



8) "If corporations have the same rights as people, we need to shut down Wall St., as we shouldn't be buying & selling them." --@Geofutures



9) "So the next time you're walking down the street and you see ExxonMobile, or ChevronTexaco take them by the hand and say, 'Hello.' Take Diebold out for dinner but please don't let Diebold figure out the tip. Isn't Blackwater entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of billions in Iraq War contracts? You know what? Citigroup has two i's too." --A Message About Corporate Personhood from Nero Fiddled



10) "Corporations have free speech. But they can't speak like you and me. They don't have mouths or hands. (Just A Giant Middle Finger.) Instead, they must speak the only way they can--through billions and billions of dollars." --Stephen Colbert, The Colbert Report




"Now is the time for us to put in motion a great popular movement to amend the constitution to defend democracy against the champions of corporate plutocracy. Go to FreeSpeechForPeople.org." --Jamie Raskin, Maryland State Senator and Nation contributor

Puckstop31
01-27-2010, 10:09 PM
Ahhh Liz... STILL fighting against 5 millenia of truth. STILL quoting the mindless lefty bloggers.


Any room for an original thought?

Puckstop31
01-27-2010, 10:14 PM
Further.... You like #5? Really? You think I should front a check for you?


I run a million $$$/year plus business. I work 70+ hours a week. I should give the fruit of my labor to you?



The big question you will NEVER answer.. WHY?

blue
01-27-2010, 11:03 PM
It seems the arrogance is coming from those who oppose the SCOTUS decision.

smokey the elder
02-03-2010, 09:59 AM
I got this in an email and just have to share.

RICHARD
02-03-2010, 10:16 AM
I got this in an email and just have to share.

That was precious. So, the people without sponsors aren't in 'the race'?:)

lizbud
02-03-2010, 10:40 AM
I got this in an email and just have to share.


Funny, and probably true.:D

smokey the elder
02-03-2010, 12:55 PM
*stirs pot and runs away*

RICHARD
02-03-2010, 02:00 PM
*stirs pot and runs away*


Sometimes, the best part about stirring the pot is getting to lick the spoon afterwards.;)