Ms. Pelosi, Meet A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H!

[blue]

What octomom did is sick.

Replacing a child that died with a new child, its a natural urge and I can understand it.

But to replace 3 children with 3 new kids all at once, thats a bit out there. RICHARD may call it sick or selfish, I call it questionable.

[RICHARD]

Maybe she can move in with Richard and his cat.:p


ANd then?


What say the benevolent woman of the US of A that will go to bat about not letting the gobierno dictate what they can and cannot do to their bodies...

I have enough room for the litter, They could come and stay at my California spead and dude rance.

LOLOL, would any of you other high and mighty posters do it for the kids and not so much for the Mom? I love the one sidedness of the issue and all the AHs that threaten her life. To think I share the planet with effing morons like that.


I could really give a shiat about the mother.


I care more for the poor kids and the darn shame that they cannot live a normal life with this kook.


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I have to say something else that cracks me up.

During the election I got some crap about some stupid candidate not wearing a flag pin......

Now some of the comments are directed at the OM's nail job.


Get a grip on your bad selves and "stop making sense".

I haven't seen this much confusion since I looked into the blender while I was cooking.:rolleyes:

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LOLOLOLOLOL,


What do you call a mom that has triplets to take the place of the three she lost in an accident?

You don't call her, she has her hands full with three kids at once.

[RICHARD]

I just walked away and thought about how chance may have shaken YOUR family tree and this NUT had fallen out.

Blood and all that good stuff would make yuo defend her to the end, as much you do with the sister, SIL, friend of other gal that does for an IVF.

Hey, it's the greatest! She did it! What a mom! We are all tickled pink about the woman who was able to have kids when science intervened!
Have fun at the baby shower and congratulate her on a job well done!

But let some fruitcake toss out a litter and all hell breask lose! What a sorrowful figure the mo who loses her brood in an accident then turns to science-not god-to fill her heart with another tri-umpant addition to her family.

And she only had to go the hospital once! I guess I could go find another mom and dad to take the place of my parents who are deceased. Hell, I might be able to get a dad with hair this time!


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Get those IVF laws passed so we don't have any more circus deliveries done and when the time come that one of your woman friends has to navigate the NEW LAWS that prohibit a woman who really wants kids, can afford them and has short nails, get up in arms all over again and complain about the 'law' that says they cannot get a decent chance at having a normal delivery.

IVF doesn't work with some women unless there are multiple empbryos implanted, This woman took it to the extreme, but when the law gets involved everyone will be screaming bloody murder all over again.
.

This whole story is not so much about the fruity nutcake who keeps going back for more babies, it's the law, the ethics and the people who can't make up thier minds about what they want.

IT's also about the babies, THey had no choice about showing up in Bellflower, CA-I am sure they would understand the hate and the death threats tossed at mom.

I don't know anything about birthing kids, But, I have changed more diapers and seen more newborn peepee and va-jay-jay changing diapers than a first year pediatric urologist.

Being born into one of those crazy Catholic and Mexican families you tend to get schooled in "small kid/baby/newborn" pretty quickly.

I am sure it would suit some people just find to have some of the OctoKids
die off, WOuldn't that save us tax payers any future contributions to this mess?:rolleyes:


Don't hate the player, hate the lame.

[Edwina's Secretary]

What octomom did is sick.

Replacing a child that died with a new child, its a natural urge and I can understand it.

But to replace 3 children with 3 new kids all at once, thats a bit out there. RICHARD may call it sick or selfish, I call it questionable.

You really need to read the thread. She used invitro. She was older so they implanted three embryos with the hope that one would "take." That is what is done with older women. It happened that all three did. That is very unusual in a woman of her age. (I mentioned a friend of mine who is over 40 so they implanted five in hope one would take. Sadly, and far more commonly, none did.)

This couple did not, as has been stated repeatedly, attempt to have three children. That is what happened.

In case you think of the 49 year old woman. Those were not her eggs. They were the eggs of a woman in her 20's so the eggs were much more viable.

[blue]

1 egg or 3, IV or turkey baster. Its replacement.

[Edwina's Secretary]

1 egg or 3, IV or turkey baster. Its replacement.

So what is questionable about it?

Or are you just desparate to not agree with me? ;-))

[blue]

So what is questionable about it?

Or are you just desparate to not agree with me? ;-))

You allready said we agree, what is your problem?

*Edit* Figured I better quote you so you dont edit or delete.


I am glad we agree Blue.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Replacing a child that died with a new child, its a natural urge and I can understand it.

But to replace 3 children with 3 new kids all at once, thats a bit out there. I call it questionable.

I am just curious what is questionable to you about what they did?

[blue]

I am just curious what is questionable to you about what they did?

IV can be risky, IV tripplets increases the risk. Ethically I would call the judgment to have 3 IV children questionable.

[Edwina's Secretary]

IV can be risky, IV tripplets increases the risk. Ethically I would call the judgment to have 3 IV children questionable.

Oh okay. I am not a doctor so I can not speak to it. I do believe she had qualified medical care as the children were not born significantly premature. I also did not realize there to be any greater risk to an IV pregnancy than a conventionally conceived one. Multiple births do occur in conventional conception also of course.

But I do hope you understand that implanting multiple embryos in women past a certain age is standard procedure in order to achieve ONE viable pregnancy.

I do not think a coincident of them having the same number of children as they lost is reason to call them sickos, goofy or selfish.

Nor am I medically qualified to call the judgment to have three IV children questionable.

But there you have it! To you this couple's behavior is questionable...to me...it was no more questionable than any other couple giving birth to triplets.

So on that we must disagree!

[blue]

Sweet zombie Jebus let it go!

I never called anybody sick for having a child after losing a child. You dont have to be a doc to know a multiple IV pregnancy is risky.

Does all your rambling make you feel superior? Do you feel better about yourself after such a verbose outburst?

[Edwina's Secretary]

Does all your rambling make you feel superior? Do you feel better about yourself after such a verbose outburst?

Oh I can be far more verbose than that! :D

I just want to see how long before you run out of dodges...:D:D

[blue]

Oh I can be far more verbose than that! :D

I just want to see how long before you run out of dodges...:D:D

So you admit that your past few posts in this thread you have been acting like a Troll?

[Edwina's Secretary]

So you admit your past few posts in this thread you have been acting like a Troll?

I have no idea what a troll is. Sorry!

I am trying to find out why anyone would have a problem with what this couple did.

Tell you a story...this all happened in my backyard. I pass the exit where the accident occurred every day.

When I heard about the couple having triplets I thought it was nice for them. And I though...oh gosh...we are going to hear about how this is a miracle, etc, etc. and I thought how cruel that would be to people like my friend who have been through so much to try and have a child and hear people say that this couple was some how more deserving of this than others. But that is the unfairness of life. So while I was happy for the couple I was sad for others like my friends.

But I never...NEVER thought I would hear them called selfish, goofy or sicko.

I think that is petty and mean-spirited. And petty, mean-spirited behavior makes me very angry.

If you had stopped at saying you did not think there was anything wrong with having more children after experiencing the tragedy of losing your children -- something some people chose and others cannot bear to think about -- I would have shut up. I agree with you on that. But you had to say their behavior is questionable.

IV pregnancy is no more risky than any other -- all other factors the same. But that is not the point.

Why the need to bash this couple?:confused::confused: That is what I do not understand. Why???

[blue]

I have no idea what a troll is. Sorry!

1. trolling
Being a pr!ck on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it's the internet and, hey, you can.


I am trying to find out why anyone would have a problem with what this couple did.

Other then maybe RICHARD who has a problem with it?


Tell you a story...this all happened in my backyard. I pass the exit where the accident occurred every day.

When I heard about the couple having triplets I thought it was nice for them. And I though...oh gosh...we are going to hear about how this is a miracle, etc, etc. and I thought how cruel that would be to people like my friend who have been through so much to try and have a child and hear people say that this couple was some how more deserving of this than others. But that is the unfairness of life. So while I was happy for the couple I was sad for others like my friends.

But I never...NEVER thought I would hear them called selfish, goofy or sicko.

I think that is petty and mean-spirited. And petty, mean-spirited behavior makes me very angry.

Take it up with RICHARD and quit stalking my posts.


If you had stopped at saying you did not think there was anything wrong with having more children after experiencing the tragedy of losing your children -- something some people chose and others cannot bear to think about -- I would have shut up. I agree with you on that. But you had to say their behavior is questionable.

You want me to call the Whaaaambulance for you?


IV pregnancy is no more risky than any other -- all other factors the same. But that is not the point.

I thought you werent a doctor?


Why the need to bash this couple?:confused::confused: That is what I do not understand. Why???

The angry is still strong with you.

Who have I bashed? Why are you confused or are you just being a troll again?

[sasvermont]

I found this today:

"LOS ANGELES — Octoplets mom Nadya Suleman and her 6 other children may soon be homeless.

Los Angeles County property records indicate the home they live in went into mortgage default on Feb. 9 after non-payment for 10 months. The home in Whittier is owned by Angela Suleman, the grandmother of the octuplets.

The default notice shows Angela Suleman is $23,225 behind in her mortgage payments and that the house could be sold at auction beginning May 5.

However, the mother of 14 may have more time to help with the repayments after the bank official said the sale could still be delayed by the discretion of her lender, IndyMac Federal Bank of Pasadena.

"We take these things one case at a time — there's no shortage of people struggling to make their mortgage payments right now," an Indymac representative said.

"Roughly more than 10 percent of our customers are 60 or more days behind."

Angela Suleman's phone has been disconnected and she could not be immediately reached for comment."

[lvpets2002]

:o Yes I heard that too on the News this morning.. Now I do feel sorry for the Grandmother & Grandfather.. They have said they could not control the decisions that the daughter has made.. Now the Incomputent Oxyyy Moron Daughter is who I have a problem with.. Where & or if she has any Brain Cells.. She totally thinking of herself only.. I do think she thought the Media was going to support her is dollars & she was going to get rich over night after having the babies.. Well from what I see it is all backfiring on her.. I bet you before its all said & done Child Wellfare is going to step in & end up with those babies sooner or later..

[pomtzu]

I found this today:

"LOS ANGELES — Octoplets mom Nadya Suleman and her 6 other children may soon be homeless.

Los Angeles County property records indicate the home they live in went into mortgage default on Feb. 9 after non-payment for 10 months. The home in Whittier is owned by Angela Suleman, the grandmother of the octuplets.

The default notice shows Angela Suleman is $23,225 behind in her mortgage payments and that the house could be sold at auction beginning May 5.

However, the mother of 14 may have more time to help with the repayments after the bank official said the sale could still be delayed by the discretion of her lender, IndyMac Federal Bank of Pasadena.

"We take these things one case at a time — there's no shortage of people struggling to make their mortgage payments right now," an Indymac representative said.

"Roughly more than 10 percent of our customers are 60 or more days behind."

Angela Suleman's phone has been disconnected and she could not be immediately reached for comment."

And she's probably in default because she's been supporting her daughter and the 6 kids. And now there's 8 more!!! :eek: The more I hear of Octomom - the more I detest her!

[lvpets2002]

:o I detest her as well & from what I hear so is everyone else.. You know she has had death threats & her publisher dumped her..
And she's probably in default because she's been supporting her daughter and the 6 kids. And now there's 8 more!!! :eek: The more I hear of Octomom - the more I detest her!

[pomtzu]

:o I detest her as well & from what I hear so is everyone else.. You know she has had death threats & her publisher dumped her..

I love your reference - Oxy Moron!!! :)
And I do believe she has dug her own grave, so to speak. More and more people are seeing her for what she is. However I do believe that death threats to anyone are serious and totally uncalledfor, and I can't blame anyone for not wanting to represent her. It's a shame that the kids are going to be the ones who suffer in the long run. I do hope Child Welfare intervenes. And like it or not ("not" for me), it's you and me and the already overburdened taxpayer that will be footing the bills! :mad:

[Medusa]

My son said "I'm going over to visit my kids". I said "WHAT KIDS???" and he said "Octomom's. If I'm going to be supporting them, I should have visitation rights." He lives in L.A. LOL

[pomtzu]

My son said "I'm going over to visit my kids". I said "WHAT KIDS???" and he said "Octomom's. If I'm going to be supporting them, I should have visitation rights." He lives in L.A. LOL

Too funny - about visiting! :D

Not funny (but true) - about supporting them! :mad:

And I can just picture Mary nearly dropping the phone when he said "my kids"! :eek:

[lvpets2002]

:o I see you & all the rest of us as Tax Payers are already supporting her & the kids.. They say she is on food stamps & welfare for 3 of the kids.. They say she owes like $50,000.00 in student loans.. I just wonder or do I need to wonder how is the Doctors & Hospital that delivered these 8 babies going to get paid.. I just dont understand how all of this got done.. There had to have been some money somewhere.. Did some of the money come from the Back Law Suite from her mental hospital job?? Oh by the way I think this mother needs to go back to that mental hospital & stay awhile as a patient.. Yes it is Sad the Children will be the ones to get hurt && they did not ask to be in the world..

[Medusa]

This story has truly become tragic. Her parents are probably going to lose their home. Who knows why they're filing bankruptcy but a good guess might be that they've been burdened w/helping their daughter financially support her kids. I don't want to play pop psychologist but the woman appears to be mentally unstable. So far I see no one profiting from this but instead a lot of people suffering, not the least of which are her children. I feel sad when anyone loses their home, especially at their age, and every day we read more details about this situation. Truly tragic.

[lvpets2002]

:( Yes it is Tragic.. Its just one bigg mess this woman has caused.. For what reason other than she was thinking of herself.. I am saddaned about the whole thing.. ** Oh by the way Mary = I hate that I could have not seen the look on your face when your son said he was going to go see his kids.. ** :D
This story has truly become tragic. Her parents are probably going to lose their home. Who knows why they're filing bankruptcy but a good guess might be that they've been burdened w/helping their daughter financially support her kids. I don't want to play pop psychologist but the woman appears to be mentally unstable. So far I see no one profiting from this but instead a lot of people suffering, not the least of which are her children. I feel sad when anyone loses their home, especially at their age, and every day we read more details about this situation. Truly tragic.

[Medusa]

Oh by the way Mary = I hate that I could have not seen the look on your face when your son said he was going to go see his kids.. ** :D

Especially since he's a confirmed bachelor. (so far) :)

[Daisy and Delilah]

Someone may have already mentioned this but......I keep seeing Octomom out and about. Whether it's CNN, TMZ, or one of the other network news reports. Does she ever stay home? Most of the time I see her, she's out getting dolled up more and more.:confused:
How does a woman with that many small children have the luxury of traveling so much?:confused:

If her mother is taking care of the kids at home while she runs around, I can't help but wonder if the mother is crazy.

[Medusa]

If her mother is taking care of the kids at home while she runs around, I can't help but wonder if the mother is crazy.

The mother probably cares for the children because they're her grandchildren and she loves them and she doesn't want them to be taken away by CPS.

[pomtzu]

Someone may have already mentioned this but......I keep seeing Octomom out and about. Whether it's CNN, TMZ, or one of the other network news reports. Does she ever stay home? Most of the time I see her, she's out getting dolled up more and more.:confused:
How does a woman with that many small children have the luxury of traveling so much?:confused:

If her mother is taking care of the kids at home while she runs around, I can't help but wonder if the mother is crazy.

I think she's probably trying to drum up sympathy and money. Don't know that either is working very well!!! :p

As far as the mother goes, if she is losing her house because of taking care of Octomom and the kids, then in a way I suppose she deserves it. She knew what she was doing, but to lose everything she has because of her reckless daughter, was a foolish move on her part. Sure - she wanted to take care of the grandkids - but at what expense? She should have put that wacko daughter out years ago, and then just maybe there wouldn't be 8 more kids to worry about now. :(

[Daisy and Delilah]

The mother probably cares for the children because they're her grandchildren and she loves them and she doesn't want them to be taken away by CPS.

That certainly is true, Mary. I wish her mother would make her daughter more responsible. I have no way of knowing how much care she's(Octomom) giving the children but the media sure makes it look minimal. I believe her mother will eventually grow tired of carrying such a large load if that's what she's doing.

[Medusa]

That certainly is true, Mary. I wish her mother would make her daughter more responsible. I have no way of knowing how much care she's(Octomom) giving the children but the media sure makes it look minimal. I believe her mother will eventually grow tired of carrying such a large load if that's what she's doing.


She'll grow tired because no one can carry that burden alone at any age, let alone in advanced years. We can't make others be more responsible; we can't control what others do. Unfortunately, the children are going to pay the price for all of it.

[Daisy and Delilah]

Ellie, I agree. Perhaps the mother should have stopped some of the nonsense the whacko daughter is doing a long time ago.

I still cringe every time I see this Octomom character. She has that stupid grin on her face as if she's basking in the limelight. :mad:

[Daisy and Delilah]

The children will definitely pay for all of it. It's so sad.:(

Has any newscast stated why the mother stopped making the mortgage payments? Was it lack of money? That seems the most likely reason, of course.
I have this secret urge to see her doing it to send the daughter a message.:rolleyes:

[Medusa]

As far as the mother goes, if she is losing her house because of taking care of Octomom and the kids, then in a way I suppose she deserves it. She knew what she was doing, but to lose everything she has because of her reckless daughter, was a foolish move on her part. Sure - she wanted to take care of the grandkids - but at what expense? She should have put that wacko daughter out years ago, and then just maybe there wouldn't be 8 more kids to worry about now. :(

That's rather harsh, Ellie. Yes, the grandmother was lacking in good judgment but it's difficult to put your child out, especially when your grandchildren would go w/her. She probably thought that at least she could supervise their upbringing somewhat. I don't know the story of the grandparents. Perhaps they were/are just as impulsive and reckless as their daughter but unless and until I do know more, I'm withholding an opinion because at present, I feel compassion for them. I'm always cautious about commenting on what others deserve because I feel that opens the way for the same to happen to me. I'm sure it will all come out soon enough, the grandparents' story, too.

[Medusa]

I still cringe every time I see this Octomom character. She has that stupid grin on her face as if she's basking in the limelight. :mad:

I see nothing but a vacant smile, void of emotion, indicating that she does not understand the gravity of the situation. I think she lives in a fantasy world. If I'd had even twins, I would've been bawling my eyes out, worrying about how I was going to care and provide for them. Maybe she's more calculating than I realize but I think this goes way deeper. I think she's a hoarder of babies, a crazy baby lady, IMO.

[Daisy and Delilah]

No matter what, I have to send blessings to her mother. She may have had a life filled with heartache that goes beyond my imagination. Like any story, there could be alot more to this than we will ever know.:(

[Medusa]

No matter what, I have to send blessings to her mother. She may have had a life filled with heartache that goes beyond my imagination. Like any story, there could be alot more to this than we will ever know.:(

Exactly. Nothing is ever as it seems.

[pomtzu]

That's rather harsh, Ellie. Yes, the grandmother was lacking in good judgment but it's difficult to put your child out, especially when your grandchildren would go w/her. She probably thought that at least she could supervise their upbringing somewhat. I don't know the story of the grandparents. Perhaps they were/are just as impulsive and reckless as their daughter but unless and until I do know more, I'm withholding an opinion because at present, I feel compassion for them. I'm always cautious about commenting on what others deserve because I feel that opens the way for the same to happen to me. I'm sure it will all come out soon enough, the grandparents' story, too.

It's kind of a double edged sword. Being a grandmother, I can understand her wanting to make sure that they were taken care of, but at the same time, if she had practiced the tough love approach with her daughter even before there were 6, then maybe there would have been a different outcome. I feel that by doing what she did, she gave her daughter license to just keep having more kids. But what's done is done, and no one can go back and change it. It's just an unfortunate situation for all concerned - and yes - the kids will pay the price.

[Medusa]

Hindsight is always 20/20.

[Daisy and Delilah]

If I'm not mistaken, I don't think the mother has spoken out much about the daughter has she? Her daughter may have been more than she could handle. Consequently, she ended up doing as she pleases.:( Who knows?:confused:

[Medusa]

If I'm not mistaken, I don't think the mother has spoken out much about the daughter has she? Her daughter may have been more than she could handle. Consequently, she ended up doing as she pleases.:( Who knows?:confused:

At this point, what does it matter? She can't unring the bell. All anyone can do is go forward and pray that the children survive w/out too much damage.

[blue]

I saw something today that CA CPS will take action, possibly removing the kids, if octomom dosent seriusly step up and prove she can provide for ALL of her children.

[DJFyrewolf36]

I saw something today that CA CPS will take action, possibly removing the kids, if octomom dosent seriusly step up and prove she can provide for ALL of her children.

I sincerely hope so. A lower profile case would have gotten CPS attention a lot quicker...sadly.

[Daisy and Delilah]

I saw something today that CA CPS will take action, possibly removing the kids, if octomom dosent seriusly step up and prove she can provide for ALL of her children.

WOW!! That would be a twist wouldn't it?

Mary: It's neither here nor there at this point. With me, this octomom intrigues me so much(I have a great interest in how people's minds work), I wondered if her mother had offered anything to the public about her daughter's past.
It's certainly smarter for her not to disclose that kind of info but my curiosity gets the best of me.:)

I had the same thoughts about Casey Anthony's mind but I've since lost it because it just no longer interests me. I attribute that to hearing so much about it, I can't take it anymore.

[Medusa]

I saw something today that CA CPS will take action, possibly removing the kids, if octomom dosent seriusly step up and prove she can provide for ALL of her children.

Hmmm, I heard last night on the news that she was looking at a million dollar home to buy. Apparently she sold photos of her octuplets and got quite a large sum. They didn't reveal to whom she sold the photos but obviously we'll know soon enough when their pix are flashed all over the place. So now I wonder, will she pay the back mortgage to keep her out of bankruptcy? I guess she'll have to if she wants to buy the million dollar home. Whatever sum of money she gets will more than likely go through her fingers like water.

[RICHARD]

Hindsight is always 20/20.

No it's not, 20/20 is a program on TV.

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The Octotetrahedronhexagonmom is not buying a house.

She's not moving in with me and the paragon of all-that-is-wrong and nosy woman, Gloria Allred has stepped in to try and help the Octotetrahedronhexagonmom get together with a non profit organization, so all the mumuring about us supporting her kids can come to an end.

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Oh, and the blitherng idiot that represents the great state of Cah lee fuh nee ah was not anywhere near the area while we were trying to get our budget problems settled. Nancy the Blitherer was at the Vatican making time with the Pope and arguing abortion with him,

She, at our expense, took a charter that cost TAXPAYERS 10k an hour to fly to Italy, the one way, the 20 hour flight cost us 200.000 dollars and that does not include tax, room and meals, for her and her hangers on.......

So, if you feel like getting angry at a buffonish, void of emotive style woman and user and abuser of tax money, look no farther that the head of or Congress. I wonder how much she pays to have her nails done?

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The funny part about this whole thread is the way that people get nailed without ever havig the intimate contact necessary to get the diry deed done!

[Medusa]

The Octotetrahedronhexagonmom is not buying a house.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,497104,00.html

Care to explain what you mean by this sentence?

The funny part about this whole thread is the way that people get nailed without ever havig the intimate contact necessary to get the diry deed done!

[pomtzu]

Hmmmm - saying that it's a darn nice house would be an understatement! Maybe I should apply for a job as nanny for her tribe! :rolleyes:

[RICHARD]

Care to explain what you mean by this sentence?

The funny part about this whole thread is the way that people get nailed without ever havig the intimate contact necessary to get the diry deed done!

Yes, I can explain that sentence, I couldn't diagram it, I sucked at English.

[lizbud]

Yes, I can explain that sentence, I couldn't diagram it, I sucked at English.


You can, but you won't? If you detest Pelosi that much why don't you
make a little straw doll and stick pins in it to relieve all that built up
frustration. :rolleyes:

[RICHARD]

You can, but you won't? If you detest Pelosi that much why don't you
make a little straw doll and stick pins in it to relieve all that built up
frustration. :rolleyes:


WTF?

Just because I can't diagram a sentence you are going to let me try Santeria?

I don't detest NP, I like to see the news do stories on her. I have the most wonderful time clowning on her. She too funny to pass on and gives me hours of fun, entertainment and the ever so growing horror knowing she represents my bassakward state.

Now, Let me ask you a question?

With all due respect, you have posted comments about other current and former politicians taking them to task for the jobs they have done and clowning on their public image.

And, I really don't care to comment on them. So why the preoccupation with my fixation of the representation and irritation that NP brings to me?

No diagramming necessary, I'll take a 10 word answer!;)

[lizbud]

"preoccupation " ??? This is the first time I ever said anything.:confused:

Oh, I can diagram with the best of them, so there.:)

[Edwina's Secretary]

If you detest Pelosi that much why don't you
make a little straw doll and stick pins in it to relieve all that built up
frustration. :rolleyes:

Just think of all the dolls he would have to have...women of whom he does not "approve." Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Hillary Clinton, Katie Couric, Diane Sawyer, Barbara Walters, Barbra Streisand just to name a few!

At least I would be in good company! ;);)

[RICHARD]

"preoccupation " ??? This is the first time I ever said anything.:confused:

Oh, I can diagram with the best of them, so there.:)

YOu know I still love you...


And you didn't clown on Cheney and his shooting skills?:D


NP spent all that money to trip to the Vatican and she left Arh-nold to figure out the CA budget himself.

\She's got some cojones, You just can't see them.:rolleyes:

[cassiesmom]

From the Nadya Suleman Family Website:

"We thank you for the love, support and good wishes sent to us from around the world. The octuplets arrived on 1-26-09. They are all healthy and growing stronger by the day. To send donations or other items..." and it lists an address which I truly hope is not the one where they actually live.

I read on telegraph.co.uk that she wanted one more daughter and that she wanted as many children as she would be able to bear because she resented being isolated and being an only child. She already has six children - one has ADHD and two have autism. It sounds to me like she was obsessed with being pregnant or having a huge family. And I don't think the fertility specialist acted in the best interests of either this woman, her six children or her future children when he implanted eight embryos. The whole thing makes me mad because there is no way she will ever be able to support or care for them without some kind of public assistance. What type of vehicle do you use to transport 14 children, almost all of whom require some sort of car seat? What happens when the oldest comes down with a cold? They will all catch it. This whole situation makes me really mad!

[RICHARD]

. What type of vehicle do you use to transport 14 children, almost all of whom require some sort of car seat? What happens when the oldest comes down with a cold? They will all catch it. This whole situation makes me really mad!


Before the child seat laws my mom would put us in a wheel barrow for the 14 mile trip to the store.....Kidding.

God, the logistics make my freaking head swim. It's not a diaper bag, It's a Diaper Duffel Bag!:eek:

[lizbud]

God, the logistics make my freaking head swim. It's not a diaper bag, It's a Diaper Duffel Bag!:eek:


The Dr Phil show did a few episodes on the Octomom & one where he
arranged all the carseats that would be needed for her to transport the
kids to a typical Drs apointment. :eek: He also mentioned she would also
need a bus, not a car, to take them anywhere.

It's pretty clear she didn't think anything out beforehand.

[phesina]

From the Nadya Suleman Family Website:

"We thank you for the love, support and good wishes sent to us from around the world. The octuplets arrived on 1-26-09. They are all healthy and growing stronger by the day. To send donations or other items..."


I notice she gets to the important part of her message right away!

[Daisy and Delilah]

I was channel surfing last night and ran across that show about the 18 kids and counting. One of TLC's shows. I said to myself, wait a minute, they have 18 kids that took years to conceive and birth. Octomom has almost as many and it was almost instantly, in comparison.

That really threw me a curve and made me think about this woman even more. Her situation continues to amaze and anger me.:(:mad::(

[RICHARD]

It's pretty clear she didn't think anything out beforehand.

Oh, I am sorry but this thought got my hysterical.

Now, can we change this time tested adage?

HE/she was thinking with the wrong part of his/her body?:eek:

[Marigold2]

A person should have as many children as they can love, and afford. NO one should have a child on welfare let alone 14. If you are on welfare that is the government telling you that you are either to poor to care for your child because of mental issues or to ill to work. In either case you are unable to care, feed, house yourself and you should not be having a child. In most cases you went and asked for that help, starting you were unable to care for yourself, so you have no business asking the government or anyone else to care for your kid

[lvpets2002]

:) Yes your speaking of the Dugger Family.. Yes it took them 18 years (a child per year).. I do think this is one of the familys that Octomom was trying to copy after.. She also sold a bunch of the babies photos to People Magazine.. I saw them on the magazine cover while in line at Walmart.. And **%%$$##@@ No Not in my life did I buy a magazine.. This Oxcyy Moron Wormen just Disgust me to no end.. Yes I spelled it right Wormen..:mad:
I was channel surfing last night and ran across that show about the 18 kids and counting. One of TLC's shows. I said to myself, wait a minute, they have 18 kids that took years to conceive and birth. Octomom has almost as many and it was almost instantly, in comparison.

That really threw me a curve and made me think about this woman even more. Her situation continues to amaze and anger me.:(:mad::(

[RICHARD]

Octotetrahedrongeodesic Dad/donor is finally speaking out.....Saw a blurb for the interview on the tube!

SHould be interesting!:eek:

[lvpets2002]

:confused: Wait a minute.. I thought those Sperm Donors did not reveil their ID factors.. Oh now is this not Something..:rolleyes: Cant wait to hear this..
Octotetrahedrongeodesic Dad/donor is finally speaking out.....Saw a blurb for the interview on the tube!

SHould be interesting!:eek:

[RICHARD]

:confused: Wait a minute.. I thought those Sperm Donors did not reveil their ID factors.. Oh now is this not Something..:rolleyes: Cant wait to hear this..

From what I heard, and that changes every day.....the SD was a close friend of hers.

[pomtzu]

:confused: Wait a minute.. I thought those Sperm Donors did not reveil their ID factors.. Oh now is this not Something..:rolleyes: Cant wait to hear this..

This one did - he was on t.v. this a.m. Seems he and Crazy Woman were an item for about 3 years, and he made more than one donation to her "bank account". I didn't catch it all, since I've started tuning out when anything about this fiasco is taking up good network time! :rolleyes:

[RICHARD]

This one did - he was on t.v. this a.m. Seems he and Crazy Woman were an item for about 3 years, and he made more than one donation to her "bank account".


And that what was the 'penalty for early withdrawl' in that acccount?:rolleyes::confused::o

[Catty1]

If Karen wants to merge this with the other thread, cool - but the other one started out being about Nancy Pelosi...;)

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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090225/world/us_octuplets


Octuplet mom fears hospital may not release babies

1 hour, 33 minutes ago

By The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES - Nadya Suleman apparently has bigger worries than taking care of her 14 children.

A TV talk show host says she told him that she fears the hospital may not release her newborn octuplets to her. Dr. Phil McGraw says the 33-year-old unemployed mother called him Tuesday, distraught that Kaiser Permanente officials told her they were concerned about the babies living at her home in suburban Los Angeles.

Suleman has taped two episodes of McGraw's "Dr. Phil" show. The first was scheduled to air Wednesday.

Suleman gave birth to the octuplets Jan. 26 in Kaiser's hospital in nearby Bellflower.

She has six other children, lives in her mother's three-bedroom home in Whittier and relies on government food aid and disability income to provide for them.

The home is under threat of foreclosure and could be sold at auction beginning May 5 because Suleman's mother is $23,225 behind in her mortgage payments, property records show.

Kaiser officials declined to comment on Suleman's case.

"Any conversations that the mother may or may not have had on this topic are private and we could not discuss them," said Kaiser spokesman Jim Anderson.

Social workers evaluate parents of very premature babies to determine what services the children and family may be entitled to, said Vicky Bermudez, a neonatal intensive care unit nurse at the Kaiser hospital in Roseville.

The octuplets were born nine weeks premature.

"If they feel there's a risk to a baby, they contact Child Protective Services and Child Protective Services would make a determination as to whether or not there's a reason for concern," Bermudez said.

A call to the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services was not returned Tuesday night.

Suleman has not responded to repeated interview requests from The Associated Press. Her phone has been disconnected and she no longer has a publicist.

[pomtzu]

And that what was the 'penalty for early withdrawl' in that acccount?:rolleyes::confused::o

Eight kids of course! :p

[pomtzu]

If Karen wants to merge this with the other thread, cool - but the other one started out being about Nancy Pelosi...;)

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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090225/world/us_octuplets


Octuplet mom fears hospital may not release babies

1 hour, 33 minutes ago

By The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES - Nadya Suleman apparently has bigger worries than taking care of her 14 children.

A TV talk show host says she told him that she fears the hospital may not release her newborn octuplets to her. Dr. Phil McGraw says the 33-year-old unemployed mother called him Tuesday, distraught that Kaiser Permanente officials told her they were concerned about the babies living at her home in suburban Los Angeles.

Suleman has taped two episodes of McGraw's "Dr. Phil" show. The first was scheduled to air Wednesday.

Suleman gave birth to the octuplets Jan. 26 in Kaiser's hospital in nearby Bellflower.

She has six other children, lives in her mother's three-bedroom home in Whittier and relies on government food aid and disability income to provide for them.

The home is under threat of foreclosure and could be sold at auction beginning May 5 because Suleman's mother is $23,225 behind in her mortgage payments, property records show.

Kaiser officials declined to comment on Suleman's case.

"Any conversations that the mother may or may not have had on this topic are private and we could not discuss them," said Kaiser spokesman Jim Anderson.

Social workers evaluate parents of very premature babies to determine what services the children and family may be entitled to, said Vicky Bermudez, a neonatal intensive care unit nurse at the Kaiser hospital in Roseville.

The octuplets were born nine weeks premature.

"If they feel there's a risk to a baby, they contact Child Protective Services and Child Protective Services would make a determination as to whether or not there's a reason for concern," Bermudez said.

A call to the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services was not returned Tuesday night.

Suleman has not responded to repeated interview requests from The Associated Press. Her phone has been disconnected and she no longer has a publicist.

And the plot thickens!!! This is better than a soap opera any day. :p

[RICHARD]

Vivid Entertainment asked the OM to do a porn movie for 1 million dollars.

I spit on myself when I heard that!

--------

My nephew came up with a good observation.

Alanis Morrisette as the OctoMom, check it out!

[blue]

Vivid Entertainment asked the OM to do a porn movie for 1 million dollars.

I spit on myself when I heard that!


And a years worth of insurance for the kids.

[RICHARD]

And a years worth of insurance for the kids.

I was too busy trying to find a clean shirt and I forgot about that, Thank You, Sir!:D

I am going to pass on the mivie title jokes.:rolleyes:

[Catty1]

http://news.bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view/2009_02_27_Octomom_Nadya_Suleman_nixes_porn_offer_ %E2%80%93_for_her_14_kids%E2%80%99_sake/srvc=home&position=also

Octomom Nadya Suleman nixes porn offer – for her 14 kids’ sake
By Inside Track
Friday, February 27, 2009 - Added 2h ago

Need a dose of good news?

Octomom Nadya Suleman has turned down $1 million and health insurance for her burgeoning brood to star in porno flicks - for now.

As we told you yesterday, Vivid Entertainment, the world’s largest porn purveyor, offered the serial mom an $1 million contract deal and threw in health and dental insurance if she’d appear in a handful of X-rated flicks this year.

“I think it’s kind of funny that I got offered $1 million to make porn,” Suleman, a mother of 14, told Radaronline.com . “Those guys at Vivid video must be nuts! Who wants to see me naked? Maybe in a year when the baby fat goes away,” she joked.

But Octomom goes onto say that she’d need more dough to participate and the only way that happens is if she pops out more kids. “Of course, if I have more kids I may have to ask for $2 million,” she said. “Seriously, though, my mum didn’t bring me up like that. Besides, what will my 14 kids think when they grow up?”

She’s thinking of the kids now???

Although Suleman has test-tube octuplets, she’s still a traditionalist at heart.

“I believe in love and romance. Not cheap thrills that belittle women,” she said.

[Catty1]

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090226/octuplet_offer_AM_090226/20090226?hub=TopStories

Octo-Mom pressured to accept offer for free housing

Updated Thu. Feb. 26 2009 10:15 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

California's octuplets mother has until midnight tonight to accept an offer from a group that wants to provide free housing and medical care to her and her 14 children.

The lawyer for Angels in Waiting, a non-profit group that was founded by medical professionals to care for premature infants with fragile health, said Nadya Suleman has few better options.

"They can provide for the health and safety and welfare of not only the octuplets but also the other six siblings of these octuplets. And they would be able to keep the family together, provide what they call wrap-around services, 24/7 care," Gloria Allred, a victim's rights attorney representing the agency, told CTV's Canada AM.

Two weeks ago the group offered to provide free housing, counselling and medical services to Suleman and her 14 kids, for a minimum of six months.

That offer expires at midnight Thursday. If Suleman doesn't accept, she risks having the children taken away from her, Allred said.

The L.A. lawyer has even filed a complaint with the Department of Children and Family Services in Los Angeles County, asking them to open an investigation into whether the divorced, unemployed 33-year-old would be able to adequately care for all the kids on her own.

Suleman lives in Whittier, Calif. in her mother's three-bedroom home, which is reportedly under threat of foreclosure due to missed mortgage payments.

The eight babies were born nine weeks premature, and have not yet been released from hospital.

If social workers determine there is a risk to the babies' health, they could block their release indefinitely, at which point local authorities would step in.

"The Los Angeles county department of child and family services may take the children and place them in foster homes and have public agencies come in and take care of them," Allred said.

"That would mean a burden to taxpayers and I don't think the public wants that burden and this could help to avoid that."

The group has not met with Suleman, but Allred said she is certain the offer has been delivered.

Allred said Angels in Waiting is the only group in California that offers such a service. She warned that if Suleman rejects the offer, she runs the risk of "long lasting and severe consequences and developmental delays" for the children.

"I think if she decides the needs of her babies are paramount and she wants to act for their protection and wellbeing, then this would be a hard offer for her to refuse."

[lvpets2002]

:mad: UUMMPPSS I heard it all this morning on the ToDay Show.. OCOMOM Maniac has a Web Site Now & is asking for Donations for her Hardship Family thats going thru hard times.. Well we are all going thru hard times.. I ran & shut the TV Off.. That Oxxyy Moron Worman..

[Catty1]

Helene, she's had a website for quite a while...or is this a new one?

Nevertheless, if she doesn't give her kids a decent house to live in - which she had til midnight last night to accept - she loses the 8 babies. Not sure about the other ones.

[lvpets2002]

:( Well it is so UnEarthing just to think that she had these babies just so She could have Attention & the Media Glotting over her.. It just makes me so so Sick = that I could just Puckkkkk.. I think they should take all the babies away from her.. I also think that the Egg Doctor should have charges filed against him as well for doing the job.. Its all in all just for money.. They are all Wormens & Wormans..:mad:
Helene, she's had a website for quite a while...or is this a new one?

Nevertheless, if she doesn't give her kids a decent house to live in - which she had til midnight last night to accept - she loses the 8 babies. Not sure about the other ones.

[Catty1]

http://www.uclick.com/feature/09/02/28/lc090228.gif

[cassiesmom]

I think the infertility specialist who ignored the standard of care and implanted eight embryos (when he should have only done two) should be financially responsible for all eight of those children until they are out of college.

[blue]

I think the infertility specialist who ignored the standard of care and implanted eight embryos (when he should have only done two) should be financially responsible for all eight of those children until they are out of college.

Isnt the sperm donor known? Maybe he and the Doc could split the costs and visitation so Octomom can have some alone time.

[Grace]

Isnt the sperm donor known? Maybe he and the Doc could split the costs and visitation so Octomom can have some alone time.

That's a wonderful thought, but do you really think she wants time alone? I think she thrives on all the media attention - it's what makes her day.

[blue]

That's a wonderful thought, but do you really think she wants time alone?

If I ever meet her Ill ask her. Until then you be the judge.

[Grace]

If I ever meet her Ill ask her. Until then you be the judge.

Judging by what I have seen on TV recently, she loves the attention.

[blue]

Judging by what I have seen on TV recently, she loves the attention.

Didnt mean to be snipy, I try to ignore her TV exposure.

[pomtzu]

UGH!!! She's on "The insider" and "Entertainment Tonight" every day now! :( She's doing a video diary. It seems she is moving to a bigger place so she has a "safe and proper home" for the 14 kids. She says it's a 4 bedroom place. How's that big enough for that mob???? :confused: The place she's in right now looks like a pigsty and is in deplorable condition. I'm sure the new place won't look much better before too long!
I wish she'd just shut up - literally!!!!! That voice of hers is soooo annoying and just grates on my nerves!

[Medusa]

I saw that an organization called "Angels in Waiting" offered 24/7 help and she turned them down. Why in the world would she do that? How can she possibly believe that she'll be able to handle 14 kids on her own?

[lizbud]

Has anyone heard her frantic 911 calls when she "misplaced" one of the
kids? She sounds really out of her mind & threatened suicide.:confused:

This woman has serious issues. I hope she is supervised at all times if she
ever gets to bring the 8 babies home.

Here's the link for the 911 call. (It's is pretty long call)

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7011071&page=1

[pomtzu]

Her stories get wackier by the day - don't they? I hope she doesn't get the kids - I don't think they would be safe with her! :mad: She's looking like more of a nut case with each passing day!

[lvpets2002]

Her stories get wackier by the day - don't they? I hope she doesn't get the kids - I don't think they would be safe with her! :mad: She's looking like more of a nut case with each passing day!

:rolleyes: Yup & just think the Media is giving this Oxyy Moron Nutt Case just what she wants && that is Attention, being in the Spotlight & Money.. I realy realy hope they take those kids away for the kids benifit.. And then they need to send her back to the Mental Hospital she used to work for & this time make her a patient..

[Daisy and Delilah]

Having children myself, I can not justify her behavior on that 911 call like Dr. Phil did. I would be worried sick but not threatening to kill myself!! What good will that do that child or any of your children? Dr. Phil said she was acting just like any other parent in that position.:rolleyes:

She is such a nutcase. I pray that those children are all taken away from her before she brings serious harm to them. :(

[RICHARD]

Dr. Phil said she was acting just like any other parent in that position.:rolleyes:

She is such a nutcase. I pray that those children are all taken away from her before she brings serious harm to them.

DP is an effhead.

He only looks for things that he can make money on. Ratings=Money.
It's just an arm of the OPRAH money making machine.

I only care for the kids.

[Medusa]

Wow. Those poor kids. It's only going to get worse. How will she keep track of 14 kids if she can't keep track of the 6 that she has? Very scary.

[Daisy and Delilah]

DP is an effhead.

He only looks for things that he can make money on. Ratings=Money.
It's just an arm of the OPRAH money making machine.

I only care for the kids.

Again, Richard, I agree with you. I can't stand DP. I've already decided he befriended this woman to gain publicity for himself. He jumped on the hottest moronic thing in the news.:rolleyes:

[RICHARD]

Again, Richard, I agree with you. I can't stand DP. I've already decided he befriended this woman to gain publicity for himself. He jumped on the hottest moronic thing in the news.:rolleyes:

He didn't learn with the B. Spears debacle-I began to listen to the Dr. Laura radio shows and it just reinforces my disbelief that people will go to the media for a solution to family problems.

I could see the OM getting more helkp just by showing up on the show:eek:

[Daisy and Delilah]

The more news I hear about this, the more confused I am.
I should correct myself to say that DP started associating with this woman to gain publicity. No matter what, he's making a show out of it, hoping people will watch.:(

With the whining voice of DP and the Mickey Mouse on helium voice of Octomom, it's more than I can listen to without going berserk.:rolleyes:

[blue]

With the whining voice of DP and the Mickey Mouse on helium voice of Octomom, it's more than I can listen to without going berserk.:rolleyes:

Is why I tune it out.

[cassiesmom]

Did you all see Dr. Phil on the David Letterman show this week? He referred to himself as the "Octo Docto" and said that he'd had several conversations with Ms. Suleman off-camera. I don't like Dr. Phil because of his claim that "there is no reality, only perception". I disagree with that idea. Two plus two does not equal five.

[lvpets2002]

:rolleyes: Well you know those two could make a Great Couple together.. Hope they both end up in the Nutt House..:p
Did you all see Dr. Phil on the David Letterman show this week? He referred to himself as the "Octo Docto" and said that he'd had several conversations with Ms. Suleman off-camera. I don't like Dr. Phil because of his claim that "there is no reality, only perception". I disagree with that idea. Two plus two does not equal five.

[cassiesmom]

And I saw a sound byte last night of Ms. Suleman stating that she "actually enjoys talking to psychologists and therapists" -- what's wrong with that picture? At first I thought she was okay and it was the fertility specialist that was the problem, but the more I hear from her personally the more I'm starting to think she's less than 100% of sound mind.

[Grace]

Here is an article (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1883663,00.html) from the latest issue of TIME - all about the fertility doc she used.

[pomtzu]

but the more I hear from her personally the more I'm starting to think she's less than 100% of sound mind.


What took you so long???? :confused::D

[pomtzu]

Here is an article (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1883663,00.html) from the latest issue of TIME - all about the fertility doc she used.

Ewwww - just his looks gives me the creeps! :eek:

[cassiesmom]

the more I hear from her personally the more I'm starting to think she's less than 100% of sound mind.


What took you so long???? :confused::D

Well... at first I thought something had to be wrong. Then I heard that she admitted only wanting one more daughter, and acknowledged that she couldn't care for the babies on her own. So I thought she had it together and the fertility specialist was the one with the problem, not her. But I don't know anyone personally who would enjoy talking to a therapist or psychologist. Or, at least admit to that. So now I'm back to thinking she doesn't have it all together. Plus her facial expressions and her voice - hello, Ms. Suleman? Are you in there? Do you have a grip on what's happening to your children?

[blue]

Now any time octo mom is brought up I just think, "Its not a Clown Car!!!"

[Grace]

Denny's Breakfast Special.


In honor of the mother of the octuplets, Denny's is now offering a new breakfast meal:

You get fourteen eggs, no sausage and the guy next to you has to pay the bill.

[blue]

Denny's Breakfast Special.


In honor of the mother of the octuplets, Denny's is now offering a new breakfast meal:

You get fourteen eggs, no sausage and the guy next to you has to pay the bill.

Bacon and hashbrowns??

[pomtzu]

Denny's Breakfast Special.


In honor of the mother of the octuplets, Denny's is now offering a new breakfast meal:

You get fourteen eggs, no sausage and the guy next to you has to pay the bill.

Love it!!! :D:D:D

[Catty1]

As one blogger said:
Try not to see this help as rewarding her irresponsible behavior. Any help she is given, has to be for the sake of those 14 beautiful children who didn't ask to be brought into this world.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/090310/us/usreport_us_octuplets

Octuplets mom agrees to outside help for her kids

Tue Mar 10, 12:46 AM

By Steve Gorman

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - California's octuplets mom has agreed to allow a foster nursing charity to provide care for her eight newborns and six older children for at least six months, television therapist Dr. Phil McGraw said on Monday.

Under the agreement between the mother, Nadya Suleman, and the philanthropic foundation Angels in Waiting, she and all 14 children will live together in a new home found for the family near her current neighborhood in suburban Los Angeles, a spokeswoman for McGraw said.

A statement from his nationally syndicated TV show, "Dr. Phil," said the nonprofit agency "initially will be providing around-the-clock services of skilled neonatal intensive care nurses who specialize in premature infant developmental care."

"Psychological and physical early therapies to help all of the children's growth and well-being will also be provided," the statement said, adding that services "will commence as soon as the octuplets are released from the hospital and will be reevaluated very six months."

The statement also said Suleman, who has been living with her six older children, aged 2 to 7, in her mother's three-bedroom house, had found "a suitable new home" for her family, and that Angels in Waiting will help her "prepare the house properly to meet the children's needs."

According to the news website TMZ.com, a four-bedroom, three-bathroom house with a large backyard is being purchased for the family by her father, with a "substantial down payment" coming from money Suleman has amassed in recent weeks, much of it presumably from donations.

ENORMOUS TASK

McGraw's nationally syndicated TV show, "Dr. Phil," which scored strong ratings with a two-part interview of Suleman last month, said he would reveal further details of the plan he helped broker in broadcasts set for Tuesday and Wednesday.

"Nadya realized that she had to make every effort to care for the octuplets as well as the six children at home in a way the proved that she understood the enormity and complexity of the task ahead," McGraw said in a statement. "The plan in place ... affords all of the Suleman children a chance to grow and thrive."

McGraw became involved in discussions between Suleman and Angels in Waiting after she confided to him fears of not being allowed to take her newborns home from the hospital until she could prove she had the means to care for the infants.

Gloria Allred, a Los Angeles lawyer representing Angels in Waiting, has said she asked child welfare authorities to review Suleman's case after the mother rebuffed an initial offer from the nonprofit agency to help with the care of her children.

Suleman first made headlines January 26 when she gave birth to six boys and two girls, delivered 9 1/2 weeks premature, at the Kaiser Permanent Medical Center in suburban Los Angeles.

Representing only the second known set of octuplets born alive in the United States, their arrival initially was hailed by Kaiser's neonatal team as a medical triumph.

But Suleman become a lightning rod for public ridicule after it was learned that she already was a divorced, jobless mother of six living with her parents on food stamps when she became pregnant with octuplets through in vitro fertilization.

She has said that all 14 of her children were conceived via embryo transplants, using sperm donated by a single "friend."

(Editing by Dan Whitcomb)

[Daisy and Delilah]

I can only believe this woman waited just long enough so it would look like someone had to beg her to do this. Are we supposed to applaud her for this? Are we supposed to believe she didn't know what she was doing in this situation?:(

I saw the news clip of her new home. Holy Cow!! The place is a mansion.
At the end of the day: she's going to get all the handouts anyone would have normally gotten for multiple births. It's disgusting!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[cassiesmom]

I copied this from Grace's post in the thread about stem cell research. If Octo-Mom only wanted one more child, why could she not have had two - or even three - embryos implanted and share the others with someone else who wants children?


Another alternative - there was a wonderful article in a recent Good Housekeeping magazine about a couple in Minnesota or Wisconsin. They had fertility problems and went the frozen embryo route. After having twins they decided that was enough for them. Rather than trash what was left, they passed them on to a couple in Virginia. That couple had twins, also, and then the two women passed the remaining ones on to a couple in California. This last couple also had twins.

Interesting that Allred had to dangle child welfare in front of Suleman to get her to accept help from Angels in Waiting. Doubly interesting that dad is buying a house for them. This whole situation makes me so mad I could scream. Dr. Phil and everyone else should just leave her alone and let her fend for herself.

[Puckstop31]

Is this thread a record for length on PT? Just wondering.

:)

[lvpets2002]

:) No Not by a long shot.. Butt this Thread has gotten lots of Post..
Is this thread a record for length on PT? Just wondering.

:)

[blue]

Its in the top 5 for the dog house.

[cassiesmom]

I saw the Octu-Mom on showbiz tonight yesterday and I just wanted to scream out loud. She is making money by licensing the octuplets' pictures, which is what she's using to purchase that house.

[pomtzu]

Her mugg is everywhere. She was on Dr Phil again yesterday (and today I think), and she's on Entertainment Tonight and The Insider every night now. I wish everyone would just ignore her and quit feeding that oversized ego of hers. I'm sick of seeing her and listening to that annoying voice of hers! :eek: Frankly, I hope she falls flat on her butt and the state takes those kids and puts them where they will have what they need permanently - not just for how long Angels Wings is going to look out for them. I think I heard it was only for 6 months, but I could be mistaken. After that - then what????? :confused:

[Daisy and Delilah]

Her mugg is everywhere. She was on Dr Phil again yesterday (and today I think), and she's on Entertainment Tonight and The Insider every night now. I wish everyone would just ignore her and quit feeding that oversized ego of hers. I'm sick of seeing her and listening to that annoying voice of hers! :eek: Frankly, I hope she falls flat on her butt and the state takes those kids and puts them where they will have what they need permanently - not just for how long Angels Wings is going to look out for them. I think I heard it was only for 6 months, but I could be mistaken. After that - then what????? :confused:

I worry the most about how messed up those kids will be if they stay with her. Obviously, she isn't all there so what's going to happen in a few years?:confused::(

[lvpets2002]

:) Thank You I could have not said this any better.. And whats even worse is the Grandfather bought this new house from Donations coming in.. And from what I understand they are going to just let the bank forclose on the house they are in & let the bank eat the cost..
Her mugg is everywhere. She was on Dr Phil again yesterday (and today I think), and she's on Entertainment Tonight and The Insider every night now. I wish everyone would just ignore her and quit feeding that oversized ego of hers. I'm sick of seeing her and listening to that annoying voice of hers! :eek: Frankly, I hope she falls flat on her butt and the state takes those kids and puts them where they will have what they need permanently - not just for how long Angels Wings is going to look out for them. I think I heard it was only for 6 months, but I could be mistaken. After that - then what????? :confused:

[pomtzu]

:) And from what I understand they are going to just let the bank forclose on the house they are in & let the bank eat the cost..

Yes - and isn't that just dandy??? :rolleyes: Imagine how folks who have lost their homes to foreclosure for legit reasons must feel when they hear of something like this. And in the end, it's Mr Average Joe who again is supporting this fiasco, since the banks won't take the final hit, Joe will.

I'd hate to see what that new house will look like before long - probably no better than the one that they're dumping. And that's what it looks like - a dump! :eek:

[JenBKR]

I haven't read through all of the threads, I just wanted to say that I am so sick of hearing about her. She's everywhere. I caught a bit of her on Dr. Phil and she is just saying whatever he wants to hear. You can tell by looking at her that she doesn't get it; that she's not all there. I feel so bad for the kids, I pray that they somehow turn out ok. Such a sad situation....

[lvpets2002]

:rolleyes: Yup that is all just Dandy.. Oh you have to know how many people just Hates this excuse of a Worman right now.. I would highly advise the Worman to start as of now to Keep A Low Profile.. I dont think the public is very please with this Oxxccyy Moron..:mad:
Yes - and isn't that just dandy??? :rolleyes: Imagine how folks who have lost their homes to foreclosure for legit reasons must feel when they hear of something like this. And in the end, it's Mr Average Joe who again is supporting this fiasco, since the banks won't take the final hit, Joe will.

I'd hate to see what that new house will look like before long - probably no better than the one that they're dumping. And that's what it looks like - a dump! :eek:

[pomtzu]

RANT!!!

I made the mistake of watching Dr Phil yesterday - and yes - Moron Mom was on again!!!

Dear DP went to the hospital to see the babies - and goo-goo'ed over them. So what - most babies are cute, arent they?

Then the show went back to the studio. Angels in Waiting went thru the new house and picked it apart with a fine tooth comb, pointing out everything that was wrong and had to be corrected before any of the babies can come home. A few of the things that they noted and must be corrected: open staircase (kids could fall thru), rails too far apart on the stair railing (kids could get stuck or fall thru), single pane windows (too hot in summer and too cold in winter) - just for starters. So of course arrangements have been made to correct everything that needs fixing - a general contractor is doing it free of charge - what a surprise!!! A nursery designer is coming in to design the nursery, another company is providing all the nursery furniture (cribs, changing tables, dressers, rocking chairs), another company is redoing all the flooring and carpet - and of course all of this is free of charge. I wonder why Extreme Makeover Home Edition doesn't just go in and level the place and build her a big, fancy mansion - free of charge of course????

Then at the end of the show, DP had the balls to post the website where everyone can go to make donations - whether it be monetary, or goods such as formula, diapers, etc. I wanted to barf!!!

And someone needs to tell Moron Mom to "put a sock in it"! It is so ignorant the way she constantly is talking over people when they talk to her. She can't shut her mouth and let them say what it is they are saying, and then talk - she's constantly running her big mouth at the same time! :mad:

[Medusa]

Well, we knew it was coming. At least the children will have a decent life, for a while anyhow. And that's what we all want, correct? :)

[pomtzu]

Well, we knew it was coming. At least the children will have a decent life, for a while anyhow. And that's what we all want, correct? :)

Yes - as everyone says "it's all about the children". I agree and don't have a problem with that. I just hate to see "Mom" reaping the rewards of it all, but unfortunately there's no way to seperate the two.

What angers me, is when I see all the needy and deserving people who need help also, having to settle for the crumbs (in comparison) that the rest of society and the government tosses out to them - if they get anything at all. It just breaks my heart!

And I suppose I shouldn't refer to this person as a "moron', since it's obvious she's pretty darn smart - in a slick and manipulative way of course!

[Medusa]

Yes - as everyone says "it's all about the children".

Well, I wouldn't go that far. It's hardly ever "all" about anything; someone is usually there to take the fall out, unfortunately. This is probably going to be an ongoing saga. There will more than likely be a reality show similar to John and Kate Plus Eight except it should be called "The Sly Young Woman Who Lived in a Shoe" (who had so many children she knew exactly what to do). "Octomom", I'm afraid, is now a part of the American lexicon.

[RICHARD]

LOLOLOLOL,


Save the rancor for the next episode of "Womb for -" there is some other freaking whacko that will deliver a litter and the whole world will go 'AHHHHH"
for her and her kids.

I wonder what the current thought would be if she had lost a few in the process?

[pomtzu]

LOLOLOLOL,


Save the rancor for the next episode of "Womb for -" there is some other freaking whacko that will deliver a litter and the whole world will go 'AHHHHH"
for her and her kids.


Hopefully the whole world would have had their fill with this present case, and tell the next one "You're on you own, biach". :mad:

[Medusa]

Sorry, couldn't resist it. ;)

[pomtzu]

Sorry, couldn't resist it. ;)

:D You bad!!!:D You bad!!! :D

ROF - LMAO :D :D :D

[Daisy and Delilah]

That picture is hilarious!!!!

Has anybody seen Jimmy Kimmel's octomom routine? Rolling on the floor laughing!!!!:D

[sasvermont]

Well, the Octomom and kids are here to stay.

I don't care if she "makes money" by selling the kiddie photos throughout their lives. She won't be able to support them by going to college and earning her degree in Social Work or whatever it was she said she was trying to finish, I think between the income from publicity, welfare if she / they are entitled and then payments and support from her parents, she and her kiddies may survive this mess.

If I never saw her again, it would be too soon. I think she is a nut case, but that doesn't change matters any at this point.

I did notice that she has "undone" those nasty long, fake nails and has more natural looking nails, for whatever that's worth. Now if she could just get rid of those nasty fake lips.

I wish her all the best. I know it will be next to impossible for her or anyone else to rear these children alone. She needs help and seems to be able to accept help at this point.

I guess she will be in our lives, for the rest of our lives. I hope she does good things for her children and spends her/their money wisely. Can you say "Trust Fund"? I hope someone has enough sense to put aside money for the children's education and special needs.

Maybe Angelina will leave Brad, and we could hitch Nadya up with him, making the picture complete for Octomom.

Whatever.

:rolleyes:

[Daisy and Delilah]

Well, the Octomom and kids are here to stay.

I don't care if she "makes money" by selling the kiddie photos throughout their lives. She won't be able to support them by going to college and earning her degree in Social Work or whatever it was she said she was trying to finish, I think between the income from publicity, welfare if she / they are entitled and then payments and support from her parents, she and her kiddies may survive this mess.

If I never saw her again, it would be too soon. I think she is a nut case, but that doesn't change matters any at this point.

I did notice that she has "undone" those nasty long, fake nails and has more natural looking nails, for whatever that's worth. Now if she could just get rid of those nasty fake lips.

I wish her all the best. I know it will be next to impossible for her or anyone else to rear these children alone. She needs help and seems to be able to accept help at this point.

I guess she will be in our lives, for the rest of our lives. I hope she does good things for her children and spends her/their money wisely. Can you say "Trust Fund"? I hope someone has enough sense to put aside money for the children's education and special needs.

Maybe Angelina will leave Brad, and we could hitch Nadya up with him, making the picture complete for Octomom.

Whatever.

:rolleyes:

Great reading!! Well said. I wish her all the best too. I hope she will be able to take care of the children and they have a wonderful life.

[Medusa]

great reading!! Well said. I wish her all the best too. I hope she will be able to take care of the children and they have a wonderful life.

Lol :)

[Daisy and Delilah]

:) :) :)

[RICHARD]

I have to toss this in for the people who are so critical of the OM and her brood.

For the last month I have had to make a concerted effort to skip the screening for the movie, "Juno" on HBO.

The channel; guide taunts it as a 'slice of life' movie about a teen who gets pregnant the 'first time'.

Oh, how touching! Some stupid little child that gets knocked up and smarms her way thru her putting the child up for adoption.

LOL, this on the heels of Tina Fake and the movie "Baby Moron-Momma", that makes fun of IVF and the Katherine Heigel movie about a one night stand that get her pregnant.

The same people who roundly made fun of and criticized BP and her pregnancy are the same idiots who went out in drove to make money for the idiot studios and actors that make light of some pretty serious situations.

So it's quite alright to laugh with a movie teen tramp who twaddles her way to an adoption, it's only fiction.

But when it happens in real life, we beat the crap out of the real people and never get the message of these movies?


That getting pregnant because you are stupid, irresponsible or selfish is O.K.?

-------------------

We gave a pass to Kate when she had her litter and it got them a TV show....Why not for the OM and OKs? Give her a season of shows and some ducats.

Maybe she can pay back the money she owes all the bellyaching taxpayers?

[sasvermont]

Richard, what is with you? How can you compare anyone, at this point, with the Octomom? And hey, movies are entertainment - not real life!

As far as BP goes, well, her Mama put her in the limelight and you get what you get when that happens.

Go take a nap Richard.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Richard, what is with you? How can you compare anyone, at this point, with the Octomom? And hey, movies are entertainment - not real life!

As far as BP goes, well, her Mama put her in the limelight and you get what you get when that happens.

Go take a nap Richard.

Amen sister! Anyway...who IS criticising BP? I have criticized her mother for putting her in the limelight at such a time...

...but I heard people criticize the folks who are criticizing BP but I still haven't heard the criticizing of BP.

Could anyone tell me who is doing it? I assume it is not Bill O'Reilly...:rolleyes:;);)

[lizbud]

This is sooooo bad. Very funny, but bad.:p:p


http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6971630

[RICHARD]

Richard, what is with you? How can you compare anyone, at this point, with the Octomom? And hey, movies are entertainment - not real life!

As far as BP goes, well, her Mama put her in the limelight and you get what you get when that happens.

Go take a nap Richard.

As I said before, with this addendum. It's cannon fodder for the news/media, a tragedy when it happens in your house and enertainment when it's a movie for the masses?

If there is one kid out there that watches a movie like "Juno" and thinks that if they sleep with a guy, and happen to get pregnant, they can get rid of the kid, just like in the movie- it's a fricking tragedy.

We'll make excuses for the teens who get mixed messages from the stupid media/entertainment/music outlets and waste time on a dumb child that happens to be a unwed mother...

No one is supporting BP, and who really gives a BM about her.

I think I'll stay awake and sit up against the wall to laugh at the masses-


I do have to do my taxes, I think I'll send a fiver to the poor OKs, just on general principle and for penance - I laughed at her too......

She had 8 at one time. It has to count for something!

Oh, Yeah.....they all lived.

I think I'll celebrate the fact that none of them died.

Vodka?

[lizbud]

That picture is hilarious!!!!

Has anybody seen Jimmy Kimmel's octomom routine? Rolling on the floor laughing!!!!:D


I missed this post. Is this the one you were talking about?

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6971630

[Medusa]

As I said before, with this addendum. It's cannon fodder for the news/media, a tragedy when it happens in your house and enertainment when it's a movie for the masses?

If there is one kid out there that watches a movie like "Juno" and thinks that if they sleep with a guy, and happen to get pregnant, they can get rid of the kid, just like in the movie- it's a fricking tragedy.

We'll make excuses for the teens who get mixed messages from the stupid media/entertainment/music outlets and waste time on a dumb child that happens to be a unwed mother...

No one is supporting BP, and who really gives a BM about her.

I think I'll stay awake and sit up against the wall to laugh at the masses-


I do have to do my taxes, I think I'll send a fiver to the poor OKs, just on general principle and for penance - I laughed at her too......

She had 8 at one time. It has to count for something!

Oh, Yeah.....they all lived.

I think I'll celebrate the fact that none of them died.

Vodka?

BP is a young girl who got caught up in the moment and let her hormones rule. The OM is a woman who already had 6 and threw caution to the wind, went the IVF route and gave birth to 8 more and that's being kind to the OM. Many believe that she calculated her every move. BP didn't. She probably didn't think at all as is common w/some young people. The two situations are poles apart, RICHARD, and definitely not worth getting your belly in a rash. Donate if you wish but do so out of a pure heart and not due to guilt because you made fun of her because then to be fair you should donate to NP, BO, Dr. Phil and countless others about whom you've made less than praiseworthy comments (not that any of those people need donations.) :)

[RICHARD]

The two situations are poles apart, RICHARD, and definitely not worth getting your belly in a rash. Donate if you wish but do so out of a pure heart and not due to guilt because you made fun of her because then to be fair you should donate to NP, BO, Dr. Phil and countless others about whom you've made less than praiseworthy comments (not that any of those people need donations.) :)


How did you know I have a belly rash?


I have to unplug that 'net camera.:eek:

The people with money can take the critique.

THere are thousands of kids having kids and they never get the attention-monetary or familial that those two cases have received. MY concern lies with them, not some media hyped circus that a desk jockey deems necessary for the nightly news/blog/talking head show.

We give off an air of compassion, yet we hammer people for being stupid and never look at the situation with a critical eye.

Giving a donation to the OM for laughing at her is poles apart from donating to a stupid congress member, a lying politician and a moron that calls himself a doctor.

They really care for us and want to be in the public eye?:rolleyes:

Put a chopstick in both of mine. I have seen enough.

;)

See, I am down one -halfway to go!

[blue]

As far as BP goes, well, her Mama put her in the limelight and you get what you get when that happens.

Can you imagine the response from the MSM or the DNC if Palin hadnt announced her daughters pregnancy? It would have been 10 times worse then it was, and thats just the cry's of hypocrisy. Especially after the stories of Tripp actually being Bristol's child, and Sarah was only covering for her.

The BP preggo story would have leaked and the left would have had a field day.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Interesting to pan a movie without seeing it! Seems like panning a speech without listening to it.

I thought Juno raised an option that is underrepresented in the discussion - adoption. It showed the pain that goes with it but certainly the benefits of it as well.

But then...I saw the movie -- whast am I doing having a opinion about it!!:D:D

[Daisy and Delilah]

I missed this post. Is this the one you were talking about?

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6971630

That's it.:D Thanks.

[Puckstop31]

Best Madrigras costume ever....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Puckstop31/image001.jpg


:D

[cassiesmom]

The first two of the eight babies were discharged from the hospital. I was hoping this would get no attention but apparently there was a media camp in front of their new house. They did actually show footage on the news of mom giving one of them a bottle.

[RICHARD]

SO, Ernie is the father!!!!

[lvpets2002]

:eek: WoW thats just too Funny.. Good One
Best Madrigras costume ever....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Puckstop31/image001.jpg


:D

[Nomilynn]

I saw footage of the "homecoming" on the ET last night. It was disgusting. The paparazzi were beating the side of the car, and flashbulb after flashbulb went off through the windows in those tiny babies faces. Apparently, Nadya did give rights to a few programs to film the homecoming, and ET must have been one of them because they had a camera inside the car when she came home. I was practically in tears watching the footage, because I can't even imagine how terrifying it must have been. Nadya had to call 911 to get the police to get the media away, and it looked like they had broken her garage door. As the car pulled into the driveway, paparazzi were clinging onto the sides and hood if the vehicle!!

No matter what her choice was, and despite all the media frenzy, in NO WAY is in appropriate for those babies to be overstimulated that way - yes, she allowed a couple of news crews and so be it. The money from that is going to the Angels in Waiting people who have set up her nursery, etc. from what I've seen/ heard. But the appalling actions of the paparazzi ought to be criminal.

[pomtzu]

It's outrageous and nothing more than a circus. I pity her poor neighbors in the new neighborhood that she is in - they can't even get to their own homes - the media is trampling all over their property - noise day and night. You would think the police could do something - maybe enforcing some loitering laws (or making some new ones) - just to keep the mobs at a minimum and give those folks who didn't ask for or want any of this - some peace and order in their neighborhood.
And Octo's crap just continues to trickle down..........:(

[Grace]

I agree about the media, but didn't she bring much of this on herself? First the implantation, then the birth and all the accompanying hoop-la. Has she ever turned down the chance to be seen on TV? She's been seeking publicity from day 1.

[Nomilynn]

Yes, I agree that she brought it on herself. However, for the sake of the children and the other people in her neighbourhood (thank you, I had meant to mention that and forgot) you would think that the paparazzi would have a shred of decency. It can't be good for those tiny preemie babies to have flashbulbs going off in their faces every 2 seconds!!!

[Grace]

for the sake of the children and the other people in her neighbourhood

Exactly - but honestly, when was the last time she thought about anyone but herself?

Wouldn't it be wonderful if all the media just left and didn't come back. I wonder how long she would last?

[Nomilynn]

Exactly - but honestly, when was the last time she thought about anyone but herself?

Wouldn't it be wonderful if all the media just left and didn't come back. I wonder how long she would last?

Well, it's hard to say, but I think that sadly the babies and children's lives would be in even more jeaopardy if there wasn't so much publicity. The Angels in Waiting people are supposed to be there for 18 months, but then what? So they leave her with 8 toddlers just learning to walk and getting into everything (not to mention the other 6, three of which have mild/ moderate autism)?? Somehow it doesn't seem right. I sincerely hope the children are ok.

[RICHARD]

Well, it's hard to say, but I think that sadly the babies and children's lives would be in even more jeaopardy if there wasn't so much publicity. .

I just posted a thread about the same thoughts.........you read my mind!:eek:;)