Palin has plenty in the bank: financial records

[Catty1]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/081003/usa/us_vote_mccain_palin_finance

Palin has plenty in the bank: financial records

2 hours, 7 minutes ago

FLAGSTAFF, Arizona (AFP) - Sarah Palin, who regularly tells voters she knows what it is like to struggle to pay the bills, earns nearly 200,000 and has substantial savings, according to records released by the Republican vice presidential hopeful's campaign Friday.

Palin, who took office as governor of Alaska in December 2006, reported a gross household income of 166,495 in her 2007 taxes.

Her financial disclosure report to the office of government ethics showed her income to be 196,531.50 this year and did not list how much her husband earned working in the oilfields or as a commercial fisherman.

The couple's 2007 taxes showed Todd's fishing business brought in about 50,000 dollars, more than half of which went to paying expenses.

His snowmachine racing also earned him about 17,000 in 2007 but he spent nearly 10,000 more than that on equipment and other related expenses.

They had a taxable income of 124,921 in 2007.

The couple claimed eight investment funds with a value of between 15,001 and 50,000 dollars and seven others valued at between 1,001 and 15,000 in a financial disclosure report.

Todd Palin also had a retirement fund through work valued at between 50,001 and 100,000 while Sarah Palin's two pensions from her work as the Governor of Alaska and mayor of Wasilla were also valued in that range.

Their home was valued at between 500,001 and a million dollars, and they also have a partial interest in two parcels of land and own a fishing leasehold.

Todd Palin claimed three vehicles which were used for business purposes: a 1992 truck, a 1975 Ford and a 2006 Dodge.

Palin, who insists that taxes must be lowered to help stimulate the economy and put more money into the pockets of families, paid 24,738 last year on her family's adjusted gross income of 166,080: a 14.3 percent tax rate.

For 2006, the Palins paid 11,944 in total taxes on gross income of 127,869 dollars, which is a 9.3 percent tax rate.

The family donated 1.5 percent of their income to charity in 2007, of which 2,500 dollars was cash and 825 dollars was household goods donated to the Salvation Army.

This was down from the 3.3 percent of their adjusted gross income donated in 2006, of which 4,250 was cash and 630 dollars was household goods.

[Marigold2]

Is that all the money she has :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: no wonder she is struggling to pay her bills?
Wonder what she really thinks of McCain's health care ideas. Lets see how much it would cost her to buy health insurance for her family with a handicapped child and a pregnant daughter if the government wasn't footing the bill for both.

[sparks19]

and this means what?

Obama also claims to know what the lower and middle class are going through but I am willing to bet that he also makes a substantial amount now.

I'm not going to hold success against any of the candidates

I don't know... we make a lot less than that and we are able to provide health insurance, a home, food, clothing and a little extra left over for fun.

I think we need to STOP holding SUCCESS against people. Don't we WANT the people of America to SUCCEED?

[Puckstop31]

Karen... Prepare to mod me...


Marigold... I admire you passion, but ***************. I really have no other wya to say it. You are married, apparently have kids (:eek:) but talk like an 8 year old.


Sorry, I know this post will be deleted, or whatever... the harsh truth here usually does.

Good luck hun.

[caseysmom]

Karen... Prepare to mod me...


Marigold... I admire you passion, but **************. I really have no other wya to say it. You are married, apparently have kids (:eek:) but talk like an 8 year old.


Sorry, I know this post will be deleted, or whatever... the harsh truth here usually does.

Good luck hun.

While I tend to agree with you on some levels name calling is not a real sign of maturity:D this from a leftie:D

[Catty1]

If Ms. Palin DOES understand the struggles of broke people, she had better back that up. We KNOW Obama grew up in a single-parent household that wasn't the richest in the country. Maybe Palin did too, but she better mention it.

It's not her SUCCESS, sparks - it's her apparent LYING that is the issue.

Marigold, I hear your sarcasm loud and clear, and good for you! She could afford anything without the government footing the bill. She's UNDERSTANDS what it's like to be broke, right?:rolleyes:

[Puckstop31]

While I tend to agree with you on some levels name calling is not a real sign of maturity:D this from a leftie:D


Just bringing it down to the appropriate level. ;)

I call it like I see it. I know this is a heavily nannied BB, good for you. But sometimes, ya just gotta say it like it is.

Since when was the truth, taboo? LOL

[Edwina's Secretary]

Gosh! The emperor...or empress in this case...has no clothes! (Although that is rather inaccurate as the woman wears suits and shoes that cost a real pretty penny! I assume the campaign fund pays for those...)

Which is more amusing? Her 9% tax rate or the pitiful 1.5% charitable contribution? But is does explain the scorn she expressed in her convention speech for community activist!

The article quoted above does not include her refusal to pay taxes on money the state of Alaska gives her when she works from home. Gosh, if she paid taxes on that she might be up to 10%!

So someone who has been at the public trough for how many years...gettin' paid with tax dollars :D:D:D

I suppose her more ardent supporters will fall back on ad hominem attacks.

Liberal media! Lefties! :D:D:D

[Catty1]

NP caseysmom...there is an "Ignore" feature on this board, which is used...so these comments are not seen by their intended target anyway. ;)

[RICHARD]

While I tend to agree with you on some levels name calling is not a real sign of maturity:D this from a leftie:D

YOu have to be a bitter lefty woman to be able to get away with it.

And the empress would look pretty darn good in the buff. I can tell!

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Somehow, SP only dropped onto the planet in 2006.


We all start out naked and covered with blood, mucus and crying up a storm.
YOu don't show up on the planet 40 years old with 200k in the bank.

Of course, some women do chart their futures by marrying a rich guy and taking advantage of some rich AH. Some women go out and do a hard day's work.

Todd hit the jackpot, he married abroad (LOL, is ALaska overseas?) a woman that is good looking, successful and carries a big stick.

So she worked for her money. I am sure no one walked up to her and handed her a check for 195k and change for nothing. she had to start some place and work her way up. Much like most of us.

I get a yearly statement from the government that tells me how much I earned since I started working when I got out of school, it shows a progressive increase year after year.

Do you think that the author of the article might have overlooked the fact that SP gets one too? If so, why didn't they reference that?


I can see the street from my front door.

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I wonder what President Camacho's yearly IRS returns look like?

I like money.who doesn't?

[Sevaede]

and this means what?

Obama also claims to know what the lower and middle class are going through but I am willing to bet that he also makes a substantial amount now.



If Obama has been in the lower and middle class it would make sense that he knows what they want and need. :)

[Edwina's Secretary]

And so the apologist speaks!

I have not heard anyone complain how much Ms. Palin makes.

It is not like she married someone really, really rich....as her running mate did.

I assume she earned her money...albeit all from tax dollars! Certainly government workers are deserving of the pay they make.

In a state with a relatively high PCPI of $50,746 - she is still doing alright.

And when this is over she will write a book and go on the rubber chicken circuit and really make some money.

But gosh darn it! I don't think when you are makin' a few multiples of the state's average wage you ought to be braggin' 'bout your empathy with those who are strugglin'.

And gosh darn it! I would think at that income level and with the hockey team and the church and all, she could do better than 1.5%!

But gosh darn it! Don't be a hypocrite!

[sparks19]

If Obama has been in the lower and middle class it would make sense that he knows what they want and need. :)

and how do you know Sarah Palin hasn't? She was one of four children and her mother was a school secretary and her father was a teacher. Now I don't know about where you are but teachers and secretaries aren't exactly raking in the dough and I can't imagine they were making MORE back then.

Plus with her 90% (give or take) approval rating in a State that isn't known for individual wealth ... perhaps listening to her people HAS given her an idea of what the middle class want or need.

It seems that just because she makes a good living now means that she doesn't understand the middle class.

[Sevaede]

and how do you know Sarah Palin hasn't? She was one of four children and her mother was a school secretary and her father was a teacher. Now I don't know about where you are but teachers and secretaries aren't exactly raking in the dough and I can't imagine they were making MORE back then.

Plus with her 90% (give or take) approval rating in a State that isn't known for individual wealth ... perhaps listening to her people HAS given her an idea of what the middle class want or need.

It seems that just because she makes a good living now means that she doesn't understand the middle class.

I never said she wasn't. I've never made any claims regarding any persons. You said something about Person A and I gave a response on Person A. I was not aware that I, also, had to bring in something about Person B considering that the statement wasn't even about them. I was pointing something out. Just because I didn't jump up and shout "oh and by the way, so and so did this, has this, was there, etc" No need to get defensive twist words around. I wish that I could say something without being pinned to something or slapped with a label.

[sparks19]

I never said she wasn't. I've never made any claims regarding any persons. You said something about Person A and I gave a response on Person A. I was not aware that I, also, had to bring in something about Person B considering that the statement wasn't even about them. I was pointing something out. Just because I didn't jump up and shout "oh and by the way, so and so did this, has this, was there, etc" No need to get defensive twist words around. I wish that I could say something without being pinned to something or slapped with a label.

LOL what? You quoted my post which was intended to be about both parties so I assumed (and you know what they say about assuming) you were talking about both parties also. My point was that we know Obama didn't grow up rolling in dough but he makes a heck of a living now but no one questions that and they shouldn't. he has every right to be successful and NOT be condemned for it. But Palin also didn't grow up rolling in dough but she couldnt' POSSIBLY know about the plight of the middle class because she makes good money now... and she also has every right to be successful. That was the point of my post so I figured if you were responding to it that you meant that he knows about the lower middle class because he has been there and Sarah Palin hasn't.

Sorry if responding to your post meant I was slapping you with a label lol

[RICHARD]

Sorry if responding to your post meant I was slapping you with a label lol



Um,
Peel it off the can first?


Let's see.......Cubs, Pale Hose, Obama and ???

Seems like Chitown has the collar on this year?

Are they the town that produces losers for this year?:confused:

[Sevaede]

LOL what? You quoted my post which was intended to be about both parties so I assumed (and you know what they say about assuming) you were talking about both parties also. My point was that we know Obama didn't grow up rolling in dough but he makes a heck of a living now but no one questions that and they shouldn't. he has every right to be successful and NOT be condemned for it. But Palin also didn't grow up rolling in dough but she couldnt' POSSIBLY know about the plight of the middle class because she makes good money now... and she also has every right to be successful. That was the point of my post so I figured if you were responding to it that you meant that he knows about the lower middle class because he has been there and Sarah Palin hasn't.

Sorry if responding to your post meant I was slapping you with a label lol

No, lol. Sorry, I should have just taken out what I wasn't referring to (I will edit my post to reflect such! :D). Just cause I didn't make a comment about one doesn't mean I was implying something about them. :D Palin must be a hard worker to live in Alaska! :) I've had relatives live there and know it's not easy! :D

Not so much a label, lol, I just felt like I was being pinned to one side of the argument. All I was trying to do was make a casual observation! :) *hand shake* :D

There are advantages, drawbacks, and all sorts of things to both, I am sure. :) I know everyone says this, but, I hope that people can put aside their differences and focus on the issues at hand. If they are concerned about petty things and mudslinging, that is less attention devoted to more important issues.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Seems like Chitown has the collar on this year?

Are they the town that produces losers for this year?:confused:

You must have Chicago mixed up with Arizona. The team that lead for a while but faded in the stretch! :D:D:D:D

[sparks19]

No, lol. Sorry, I should have just taken out what I wasn't referring to (I will edit my post to reflect such! :D). Just cause I didn't make a comment about one doesn't mean I was implying something about them. :D Palin must be a hard worker to live in Alaska! :) I've had relatives live there and know it's not easy! :D

Not so much a label, lol, I just felt like I was being pinned to one side of the argument. All I was trying to do was make a casual observation! :) *hand shake* :D

There are advantages, drawbacks, and all sorts of things to both, I am sure. :) I know everyone says this, but, I hope that people can put aside their differences and focus on the issues at hand. If they are concerned about petty things and mudslinging, that is less attention devoted to more important issues.

Chalk it up to a misunderstanding on my part :)

Richard... You confuse me sometimes lol... WHO or WHAT is Pale Jose? I must have missed that lol

[Grace]

Richard... You confuse me sometimes lol... WHO or WHAT is Pale Jose? I must have missed that lol

I believe that would be the Chicago White Sox.

[sparks19]

I believe that would be the Chicago White Sox.

ahhhhh... thanks for clarifying :D I don't watch baseball so I was totally lost there lol.

[RICHARD]

Richard... You confuse me sometimes lol... WHO or WHAT is Pale Jose? I must have missed that lol



Two women were on a plane and began a conversation.

They spoke of all the places that they had been and the subject of California came up.

The first woman said that she was from San Francisco, she then asked where in CA the 2nd woman had visited.

"San Jose", she answered, mispronouncing Jose. The first woman said, "Oh, you mean SAN HO-SAY! In California we pronounce the letter "J" like an "H"!

The second woman thought about it for a second and thanked her for correcting her pronounciation.

The first woman followed up by asking her during what time of the year she had been in San "HOSAY". The second woman hesitated and said, "In HUNE AND HULY!"
:rolleyes:

[blue]

Ive made anywhere from $18,000-$48,000 per year over the last 16 years(starting from when I turned 18). Im 34 now, hopefully when I am 44 I have the income the Palin's enjoy, then I can say I understand the middle class too.

Im sure Obama's income far and away excedes Palins, and is probably on par with McCains. I know Obama claims a connection with the middle class, but when has he actually been middle class?

[Karen]

Ive made anywhere from $18,000-$48,000 per year over the last 16 years(starting from when I turned 18). Im 34 now, hopefully when I am 44 I have the income the Palin's enjoy, then I can say I understand the middle class too.

Im sure Obama's income far and away excedes Palins, and is probably on par with McCains. I know Obama claims a connection with the middle class, but when has he actually been middle class?

Growing up.

[blue]

Growing up.

Care to expand?

[blue]

Source. (http://savagepolitics.com/?page_id=326)


CHARGE 15 - “I was an underprivileged youth.”

EVIDENCE – Senator Obama attended prep schools and later on went to Harvard Law. His Grandparents were wealthy bankers and his Step-father was an Oil Executive. His mother was also a P.H.D.. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - He went to school on a scholarship and had to use food stamps to survive.

REBUTTAL - From the ages of 2 – 6, Senator Obama was raised by his wealthy, grandparents. From the ages of 6 – 10, Senator Obama was raised by his mother and his step-father who was an Oil Executive in Indonesia; from the age of 10 until his early adulthood, Senator Obama was living again with his wealthy grandparents, one of which was the Vice President of the Bank of Hawaii. Senator Obama has attended prep schools like Occidental College, paid for by HIS FAMILY. He then went on to Harvard, the State Senate of Illinois, and the U.S. Senate.

[Grace]

His Grandparents were wealthy bankers

Obama's maternal grandfather was never in the banking business. His maternal grandmother did, eventually, become the Vice-President of a bank, but his grandfather was a furniture salesman - both in Kansas and Hawaii.

Why do we even care whose parents and grandparents made the most, or least, money? Our country is involved in two ground wars and thisclose to a recession - and we sit here arguing about junk.

[sparks19]

Obama's maternal grandfather was never in the banking business. His maternal grandmother did, eventually, become the Vice-President of a bank, but his grandfather was a furniture salesman - both in Kansas and Hawaii.

Why do we even care whose parents and grandparents made the most, or least, money? Our country is involved in two ground wars and thisclose to a recession - and we sit here arguing about junk.

We shouldn't care... but it is apparently an issue that the candidates make so much money and claim to understand lower and middle class people because you CAN'T do both obviously :D

I personally don't care how much money they have made in their lifetime, how many houses they have, what brand of clothes they wear... or whatever other material things they have. and it certainly shouldn't be a deciding factor for who you will vote for (not you personally... just a general "you")

[rosethecopycat]

If you are upper class, then you can't understand the plight of the middle class. And if you are middle class, you can't understand the struggle of the lower class. Therefore, the only ones entitled to lead are from the lower class.
At least you should have spent some time in the lower class to be considered.

Idiocracy comes true!



And now for my ad hominem attack:

Obama and Palin are rich.

All rich people are bad.

Obama and Palin are bad.
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We should all have the same amount of money.
Then we wouldn't have to tax people with more money. I have a right to criticize how much a person donates to charity. I should have everything everyone else has because I want it.

People in the upper class should 'help' the middle class.
They cannot afford their cell phones, cable TV and extravagant gifts for their children such as those motorized toy cars.:rolleyes:

I like money.

[Edwina's Secretary]

And now for my ad hominem attack:

Obama and Palin are rich.

All rich people are bad.

Obama and Palin are bad.
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You forgot McCain. He is very, very rich. and he got it the old fashion way. He married it!:D:D

[lizbud]

Source. (http://savagepolitics.com/?page_id=326)



Your blog source is total BS.

[rosethecopycat]

You forgot McCain. He is very, very rich. and he got it the old fashion way. He married it!:D:D

You are correct.

McCain is rich. He is bad.
He should give his spare money to the middle class.
;)

[Edwina's Secretary]

You are correct.

McCain is rich. He is bad.
He should give his spare money to the middle class.
;)

Sadly he cannot. It is his wife's money!:D:D

Seriously though...the point is not who is rich and who isn't (by the way...I don't consider Palin's income to be "rich".)

It is the posturing...The "I'm just simple down home folk" from someone who is making a very good living off the very taxes she deplores.

[rosethecopycat]

Your blog source is total BS.

Pretty much right. The 50 Obama lies is addressed by snopes.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

Snopes at least debunks about 20 of them.


Interestingly, there is something about 'foreign policy experience' from being in Indonesia, that is determined to be 'argumentative'.
But let's not go there again...:rolleyes:

It's not important to me whether he 'prayed in a Mosque' or whether he could speak Indonesian. It's that he is 'way socialist' in perspective.

[RICHARD]

Idiocracy comes true!

I like money.

Do I look like a pants goblin?

[lizbud]

Pretty much right. The 50 Obama lies is addressed by snopes.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

Snopes at least debunks about 20 of them.


Interestingly, there is something about 'foreign policy experience' from being in Indonesia, that is determined to be 'argumentative'.
But let's not go there again...:rolleyes:




The others would probably fail http://www.factcheck.org/ also.

[rosethecopycat]

The others would probably fail http://www.factcheck.org/ also.

Show me where those are debunked, please. :)





Can we all agree that they are all lying their arses off?

Back to political philosophy....

[blue]

Your blog source is total BS.

Thank you for your further explanation.

PS Its not my blog.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Back to political philosophy....

Do you mean the way Ms. Palin is addressing political philosophy? Trying to tie Obama to "terrorist" because he lives in the same neighborhood as a guy who was involved in radical politics...when Obama was 8 years old!

So, if she can attack on what she believes to be "character" why can she not be attack for the same?

Or McCain for his association with Charles Keating...one of the biggest criminals around? And he was 58 when he helped Keating!

[blue]

Reguarding nObama and Ayres....


In addition to his professoship, Ayers is The Woods Fund board chairman, and a young state senator, who like Ayers is living in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood, is a fellow board member--that person of course is Barack Obama

That should make the connection real easy for everybody.

[blue]

Or McCain for his association with Charles Keating...one of the biggest criminals around? And he was 58 when he helped Keating!

Your going to compare an SNL scumbag with the Co-founder of Weather Underground? Charles Keating is nowhere near the biggest criminal around by any measure.

[Grace]

Your going to compare an SNL scumbag with the Co-founder of Weather Underground? Charles Keating is nowhere near the biggest criminal around by any measure.

And neither is William Ayres. He is irrelevant to this election process. Some are just attempting to muddy the waters. John McCain should be ashamed of himself. After the trash that was heaped on him back in 2000 by Bush, one would think he would not get caught up in sleaze and lies. One would be wrong.

[blue]

And neither is William Ayres. He is irrelevant to this election process. Some are just attempting to muddy the waters. John McCain should be ashamed of himself. After the trash that was heaped on him back in 2000 by Bush, one would think he would not get caught up in sleaze and lies. One would be wrong.

So having a self admitted terrorist as an associate and endorser would be right? The Obama/Ayres connection is not sleaze and lies, its a fact.

If McCains association with Bill Keatings is fair game Ayres is fair game for NObama.

I ask you, would you rather associate with a (A)SNL snake or (B) an admitted domestic terrorist? This is an (A) or (B) question, no other options so dont try and duck.

[blue]

Obama's maternal grandfather was never in the banking business. His maternal grandmother did, eventually, become the Vice-President of a bank, but his grandfather was a furniture salesman - both in Kansas and Hawaii.

I missed this while dealing with my own medical matters today.

It matters because he claims to have grown up underprivilaged, he didnt. Fail.

[Grace]

I missed this while dealing with my own medical matters today.

It matters because he claims to have grown up underprivilaged, he didnt. Fail.

I was doing nothing more than correcting your previous comment that BOTH his maternal grandparents were wealthy bankers.


His Grandparents were wealthy bankers and his Step-father was an Oil Executive.

[rosethecopycat]

Do you mean the way Ms. Palin is addressing political philosophy? Trying to tie Obama to "terrorist" because he lives in the same neighborhood as a guy who was involved in radical politics...when Obama was 8 years old!

So, if she can attack on what she believes to be "character" why can she not be attack for the same?

Or McCain for his association with Charles Keating...one of the biggest criminals around? And he was 58 when he helped Keating!

No, I don't.

None of this is political philosophy at all.

You can keep playing 'what's good for the goose'
but it's not philosophy.

Keep it comin'...

[Grace]

So having a self admitted terrorist as an associate and endorser would be right? The Obama/Ayres connection is not sleaze and lies, its a fact.

If McCains association with Bill Keatings is fair game Ayres is fair game for NObama.

I ask you, would you rather associate with a (A)SNL snake or (B) an admitted domestic terrorist? This is an (A) or (B) question, no other options so dont try and duck.

Duck, did you say duck - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/Duck.gif

As for the rest of your diatribe http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/lol1.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/lol1.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/lol1.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/lol1.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/lol1.gif

[RICHARD]

As for the rest of your diatribe


NOW, that's a racist comment.

Why do you have to bring the Amerinds into this conversation.

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In typical defense of a terrorist.

LOLOLOL, Barry, the moron running for president, is linked to Obama, Poor barry was still in grade school when all this wa coming down.

Some idiot was on the radio last night defending WA by reading his WIKIPEDIA
entry on the 'net.

This guy came out and said that he did bomb a number of places. He turned himself in AFTER THE STATUTE on his crimes ran out and wrote about it in a book.

IF you read the entry with litlle or no reading comprehension you'll see what a scumbag he is. ANd in typicial old radical fashion he take a job taking money from the same establishment that he fought so hard against.

Old hippie radicals never die. They pretend to still work towards the 'cause' while lying to themselves.


Is their a parrot in the house?

[blue]

I was doing nothing more than correcting your previous comment that BOTH his maternal grandparents were wealthy bankers.

Oh Noes!!!!!!! I got something half right....

[catland]

Joe Biden is one of the least wealthy senators (because he went into the senate when he was 30 and hadn't built up a lucrative law practice before).

Palin has implemented a lot of tax cuts in Alaska. She spends 80% less than her predecessor on her travel expenses and per diems. She's a diamond in the rough who's been tossed on to the national spotlight too soon. (Although personally, I do have issues with her politics)

John McCain is an American Hero! I cannot imagine giving up my chance to go home instead of enduring more years of brutal torture. Yet he did finish 6th from the bottom of his class in Annapolis.

Barack Obama is truely a leader of and for the 21st century. He taught constitutional law for 12 years and was the first african-american president of the Harvard Law review. He knows the pain of dealing with medical insurance. His mother died of cancer when she was 51.


I'm tired of the name-calling and hate and venom of the campaign. We need to look at who these people really are and then make our choices or we deserve what we get.

[blue]

Duck, did you say duck - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/Duck.gif

As for the rest of your diatribe http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/lol1.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/lol1.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/lol1.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/lol1.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/March16th/lol1.gif

Yes I said duck, and you maam just ducked.

[Grace]

Yes I said duck, and you maam just ducked.

And you, sir, are not the all-knowing Judge and/or jury on this board. You cannot snap your fingers and demand an answer from anyone.

[caseysmom]

And you, sir, are not the all-knowing Judge and/or jury on this board. You cannot snap your fingers and demand an answer from anyone.

Hear hear!

[Puckstop31]

Don't sweat it Dan... It happens a lot here. LOL

[JenBKR]

Joe Biden is one of the least wealthy senators (because he went into the senate when he was 30 and hadn't built up a lucrative law practice before).

Palin has implemented a lot of tax cuts in Alaska. She spends 80% less than her predecessor on her travel expenses and per diems. She's a diamond in the rough who's been tossed on to the national spotlight too soon. (Although personally, I do have issues with her politics)

John McCain is an American Hero! I cannot imagine giving up my chance to go home instead of enduring more years of brutal torture. Yet he did finish 6th from the bottom of his class in Annapolis.

Barack Obama is truely a leader of and for the 21st century. He taught constitutional law for 12 years and was the first african-american president of the Harvard Law review. He knows the pain of dealing with medical insurance. His mother died of cancer when she was 51.


I'm tired of the name-calling and hate and venom of the campaign. We need to look at who these people really are and then make our choices or we deserve what we get.

Fantastic post! I am not a very political person, but I do care about the issues. Unfortunately, candidates would rather bash the opposition than talk about the issues. Sort of sad, really...

[lizbud]

Fantastic post! I am not a very political person, but I do care about the issues. Unfortunately, candidates would rather bash the opposition than talk about the issues. Sort of sad, really...


McCain started throwing mud the minute he ran out of fresh ideas
to give the American people. Right now he's desperate to change the
subject from the economy, to character assassination & name calling.


Unfortunatly in today's political climate, Obama would damage his chances
by NOT responding to each & every negative charge made. No matter how
far fetched it may be.

[blue]

And you, sir, are not the all-knowing Judge and/or jury on this board. You cannot snap your fingers and demand an answer from anyone.

And she sidesteps again. You say the source I posted is BS without deffending your position. You seem to ignore that Barry had a 12 year relationship with an admitted terrorist, Im guessing you have no problem with Barry's long stint with the Joyce Foundation either?

I am not judging anybody on this board least of all you, Ill answer your questions it seems you wont reciprocate. If you dont want to answer a simple question just say so and quit trying to be cute or snippy. Mmmmmk?


Don't sweat it Dan... It happens a lot here. LOL

Im noticing this.

[JenBKR]

McCain started throwing mud the minute he ran out of fresh ideas
to give the American people. Right now he's desperate to change the
subject from the economy, to character assassination & name calling.


Unfortunatly in today's political climate, Obama would damage his chances
by NOT responding to each & every negative charge made. No matter how
far fetched it may be.

Seems to me they all started throwing mud from the get-go. There's just so much negativity. And of course a candidate has to respond, but I think that Obama is doing more than responding...just my humble opinion. I just liked catland's post, as I am also tired of the name-calling and hate of the campaign (well, every campaign, they all seem to be this way anymore). It seems to me that there's so much name calling, accusations, and lies that it's hard to keep track of where the candidates actually stand on the issues. I intend to vote, but I am stil not sure who for. I am just not crazy about either of them. I should start a new thread - convince me to vote for 'your' candidate...WITHOUT talking about the other candidate at all!

[beeniesmom]

Joe Biden is one of the least wealthy senators (because he went into the senate when he was 30 and hadn't built up a lucrative law practice before).

Palin has implemented a lot of tax cuts in Alaska. She spends 80% less than her predecessor on her travel expenses and per diems. She's a diamond in the rough who's been tossed on to the national spotlight too soon. (Although personally, I do have issues with her politics)

John McCain is an American Hero! I cannot imagine giving up my chance to go home instead of enduring more years of brutal torture. Yet he did finish 6th from the bottom of his class in Annapolis.

Barack Obama is truely a leader of and for the 21st century. He taught constitutional law for 12 years and was the first african-american president of the Harvard Law review. He knows the pain of dealing with medical insurance. His mother died of cancer when she was 51.


I'm tired of the name-calling and hate and venom of the campaign. We need to look at who these people really are and then make our choices or we deserve what we get.


Thank you!

[shais_mom]

Joe Biden is one of the least wealthy senators (because he went into the senate when he was 30 and hadn't built up a lucrative law practice before).

Palin has implemented a lot of tax cuts in Alaska. She spends 80% less than her predecessor on her travel expenses and per diems. She's a diamond in the rough who's been tossed on to the national spotlight too soon. (Although personally, I do have issues with her politics)

John McCain is an American Hero! I cannot imagine giving up my chance to go home instead of enduring more years of brutal torture. Yet he did finish 6th from the bottom of his class in Annapolis.

Barack Obama is truely a leader of and for the 21st century. He taught constitutional law for 12 years and was the first african-american president of the Harvard Law review. He knows the pain of dealing with medical insurance. His mother died of cancer when she was 51.


I'm tired of the name-calling and hate and venom of the campaign. We need to look at who these people really are and then make our choices or we deserve what we get.

well said Julie.
I can't WAIT until this election is over.

Politicians salaries are public knowledge are they not? (and I'm not trying to be 'smart'- I really don't know- so its a valid question.)
But I sure don't understand why the OP would even care since she doesn't even live in this country.

[blue]

To get this thread back on track... Leave Track Palin alone!

Now as far as the news link posted in post #1 (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/081003/usa/us_vote_mccain_palin_finance), those numbers would be actually damaging if they were the Palin family finances for 1998 even more so for 1988.

Barack Obama is only 3 years older and has a net worth of $1.3 million.

This should have been the kicker as far as personal finances goes...
















John McCains net worth......















$40.4 million!












From what Ive been able to dig up, Sen Biden is the closest to the middle class without going over, a net worth of only $150,000.