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Grace
09-25-2008, 05:48 PM
I just saw this on the news - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Q_7DpuQ3M


This is the person John McCain has chosen to be next in line???

sasvermont
09-25-2008, 06:45 PM
She sounds so darn dumb. I am sorry. I cannot fathom why anyone would think she is prepared to be a VP or P. She is all fluff, at best. And .... she cannot speak without throwing in an "ing" drop. She sounds like such a red neck. Ugh. George Bush cannot complete a sentence either... I just don't get it. Sorry for being so negative. I just cringe when I hear her speak.:p

lizbud
09-25-2008, 07:11 PM
Her comments seems to be things she's learned back in her old beauty
pagent days. You know how they ask the candidates at least 1 semi-serious
question to show their "smarts"? Palin believes she can say pretty much
anything & get away with it as long as she "appears" earnest enough.

RICHARD
09-25-2008, 07:27 PM
There are a few politicians who cannot finish a thought or a sentence without having their words get stuck between their cerebral cortex and their epiglottis.

The mayor of Lost Angles is another buffoon with no sense of pacing and the Um and Ah speech pattern.

I watched a speech this weekend by a politician and he stumbled through 7 minutes of talking and umm-ed and uhh-ed a total of 70 plus times.

Public speaking is indeed an art and there are people who can get thru a sentence. Some people love to hear themselves speak-hence the stumbling around and making dumb statements. Sad when the only time you can get through a sentence is when it's projected on a tilted glass frame a few feet away.

As for SP's cringy, unmodulated, vocal range? Thank god pushing the MUTE button isn't a crime against that little Freedom of Speech Act.

The overstated wonder of the moment will wear off and SP will get caught, in one of those moments, with her bikinis down around her ankles.

Until then? I like the fluffy, puppy loving, moose killing, gun toting, 'pornstar' facade. I can hardly wait until she turns into a PMSing, sharp tongued, witless
Bee-yotch that everyone knows is hidden under the upswept hair, the business suit and smart set of shoes. She'll bark out orders like HC, Snap like Tah Rais ah Kerry, and blabber on like Nancy Pelosi.

Maybe we'll get a deal like the one we got with Dick Cheney. Never hear from him again! I heard that he has a paper-maiche likeness that goes to all the important meetings, it's so good that no one really notices!

Sometimes it's great to hear a woman's voice carry on,
That reassures us men that we aren't the only idiots on the planet.

caseysmom
09-25-2008, 07:47 PM
OMG I thought is was Tina Fey doing a joke!

DJFyrewolf36
09-25-2008, 08:08 PM
Sigh...:rolleyes:

Cinder & Smoke
09-25-2008, 08:24 PM
Sometimes it's great to hear a woman's voice carry on,

That reassures us men that we aren't the only idiots on the planet.

:D Richard,
You have a Way with Words! :cool:

So, might I surmise that you're leaning in some direction
OTHER than McCain / Palin ??

:p

RICHARD
09-25-2008, 09:53 PM
:D Richard,
You have a Way with Words! :cool:

So, might I surmise that you're leaning in some direction
OTHER than McCain / Palin ??

:p

Where have you gone, Pat Paulson?;)


LOL, I have no idea where I'll be in 10 minutes, let alone where I'll be on Nov 4! All parties sound dumber by the moment. And all the people who rabidly support either candidate sound tired of the process themselves.

Everyone needs 15 minutes or four years, sometimes it takes that long to figure out that they bit off more than they can chew!;)

Cinder & Smoke
09-25-2008, 10:07 PM
All parties sound dumber by the moment. ;)

I can sure agree with THAT statement!

Is it too late for our Favorite Son, Cleveland's own
Dennis the Menace Kucinich
to return to the Presidential Follies?

Now he and Sarah would have made a really WILD White House duo!!
:rolleyes:

Catty1
09-25-2008, 10:35 PM
In KA-NA-DA here, an election gets called and we're done 6 weeks or so later.

I just really feel for my friends here in the USA...ya gotta "hurry up and wait" for what? Two years???

I hope the next President creates a law that allows a one-year advance poll. ;) It must be like watching paint dry awaiting the day you can actually VOTE. And it must drag out for the politicians also.

If the Republicans could vote for their Pres candidate and leave Palin right out of it, it might be easier. But - she comes as part of the package.

Here, the Deputy Prime Minister is chosen after the election.

Prayin' for you!:love:

Grace
09-25-2008, 11:01 PM
Candace, your post reminded me of something I read the other day from the Washington Times.

If there should be a tie in the Electoral College votes, it is broken by the Congress. The House decides the President. Since the House is heavily Democratic, it would seem that Obama would be selected as President. The Senate, on the other hand, with Lieberman voting with the Republicans, would be in a 50-50 tie. At that point Vice President Dick Cheney steps in to break the tie to make Republican Sarah Palin his successor.

How's that for a can of worms?

Catty1
09-26-2008, 09:47 AM
How's that for a can of worms?

Makes my head really hurt......:eek:

lvpets2002
09-26-2008, 09:54 AM
:o All I know is That I Like the way Richard words things.. Oh Oh Oh I know lets write in Richard for President.. Right now I dont thing I will be available on Nov 4th..

Marigold2
09-26-2008, 11:11 AM
Hillary and Bill Clinton are intelligent people and can put two, three and four words together, as can Obama.
Bush shows his intelligence every time he opens his mouth.
Weather you agree with a person or not the way they speak does show intelligence. I might not always agree with whom I am voting for however I don't think I am always correct or know more about the subject then they do, in fact I doubt that any of us know as much about the economy, foreign policy, healthcare as these politicans do. They all have advisors that are often as smart or smarter then they are doing the back round work for them. The final decison on some things might be theirs but they have a lot of help. Having the intelligence to understand all the info that is given to them and then making the decisions needs great intelligence, Bush doesn't have it, I don't think Palin does, McCain yes, Obama yes.
I think most Americans vote for a person based on religion and weather they are a Rep or Dem they don't look at the whole package and they don't do their research. The extreme right wing often but not always listens to their pastor or minister never reading a Time, Newsweek, watching a debate or news program. The only reality for the is what they learn in church.
The extreme left are so afraid of losing any of their freedom that they also don't look at all the issues.
Thats why I always say and will continue to say that church and state need to as seperate as can be.
Religion has no place in politics. After all when we deal with foreign nations especially the Middle East their religion is so different from ours it affects their morals, and their way of life. Not too many Americans are ready to strap a bomb onto themselves walk into a crowd and blow themselves up for the good of the government. Religion is not a logical practice in any country. How you were raised how your parents prayed is most often how you will practice, most people don't go to other churches and pick one for themselves. That is not to say that religion is bad, but it is a personal choice and not a government issue. After all America came about for the freedom of religion. When you think about how desperate the Pilgrams were, how they risked their lives to come here, shows how deep their faith was. They were willing to die for this. Just as the people in the Middle East are willing to die.

lizbud
09-26-2008, 11:33 AM
Another ex-supporter of Palin heard from......... No wonder they have been hiding her from the press.


Legalities
Life, Politics and the Law From ABC News Correspondent Jan Crawford Greenburg

Jan Crawford Greenburg is a correspondent for ABC News' bureau in Washington DC. She covers politics, the Supreme Court and provides legal analysis for ABC News. She is a graduate of the University of Chicago's law school and is a member of the New York bar.


Palin: Withdraw "for your country"
September 26, 2008 8:25 AM

Syndicated conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, who once described Sarah Palin's candidacy as a "bright light," now is calling on her to withdraw. She is the first prominent conservative to stake out that position--bringing to mind Bill Kristol's early pronouncement in 2005 that he was "disappointed, depressed and demoralized" over the Harriet Miers nomination.

In a column titled "The Palin Problem," Parker says Palin's recent "painful" interviews with Gibson, Hannity and Couric show she is "clearly out of her league" and that "we'd all be guffawing" if she were a man.

"No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I've been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly," Parker writes. "I've also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted."

Palin, she writes, filibusters and fills the space with deadwood. "Cut the verbiage and there's not much content there," Parker concludes. And then she provides an example--an exchange with Sean Hannity.

Bottom line:

"Only Palin can save McCain, her party and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first," Parker writes.

"Do it for your country."

Grace
09-26-2008, 11:52 AM
Here is the article by Kathleen Parker, that Jan Greenburg mentions. The original is at Townhall.com - not the most left leaning website.



The Palin Problem
Kathleen Parker
Friday, September 26, 2008

WASHINGTON -- If at one time women were considered heretical for swimming upstream against feminist orthodoxy, they now face condemnation for swimming downstream -- away from Sarah Palin.

To express reservations about her qualifications to be vice president -- and possibly president -- is to risk being labeled anti-woman.

Or, as I am guilty of charging her early critics, supporting only a certain kind of woman.

Some of the passionately feminist critics of Palin who attacked her personally deserved some of the backlash they received. But circumstances have changed since Palin was introduced as just a hockey mom with lipstick -- what a difference a financial crisis makes -- and a more complicated picture has emerged.

As we've seen and heard more from John McCain's running mate, it is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem. Quick study or not, she doesn't know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin should conditions warrant her promotion.

Yes, she recently met and turned several heads of state as the United Nations General Assembly convened in New York. She was gracious, charming and disarming. Men swooned. Pakistan's president wanted to hug her. (Perhaps Osama bin Laden is dying to meet her?)

And, yes, she has common sense, something we value. And she's had executive experience as a mayor and a governor, though of relatively small constituencies (about 6,000 and 680,000, respectively).

Finally, Palin's narrative is fun, inspiring and all-American in that frontier way we seem to admire. When Palin first emerged as John McCain's running mate, I confess I was delighted. She was the antithesis and nemesis of the hirsute, Birkenstock-wearing sisterhood -- a refreshing feminist of a different order who personified the modern successful working mother.

Palin didn't make a mess cracking the glass ceiling. She simply glided through it.

It was fun while it lasted.

Palin's recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I've been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I've also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted.

Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there's not much content there. Here's but one example of many from her interview with Hannity:

"Well, there is a danger in allowing some obsessive partisanship to get into the issue that we're talking about today. And that's something that John McCain, too, his track record, proving that he can work both sides of the aisle, he can surpass the partisanship that must be surpassed to deal with an issue like this."

When Couric pointed to polls showing that the financial crisis had boosted Obama's numbers, Palin blustered wordily: "I'm not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who's more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who's actually done it?"

If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

If Palin were a man, we'd all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she's a woman -- and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket -- we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.

What to do?

McCain can't repudiate his choice for running mate. He not only risks the wrath of the GOP's unforgiving base, but he invites others to second-guess his executive decision-making ability. Barack Obama faces the same problem with Biden.

Only Palin can save McCain, her party and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.

Do it for your country.

MoonandBean
09-26-2008, 12:19 PM
Today on dogster, one of Sunny's pals put up a cute little game "what would your name be if you were Sara Palin's dog"? My response was: If Sunny was Sara Palin's dog, she'd be dead with a $150.00 bounty on her front left paw :(

http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008/09/08/sarah_palin_wolves/

RICHARD
09-26-2008, 02:34 PM
:o All I know is That I Like the way Richard words things.. Oh Oh Oh I know lets write in Richard for President.. Right now I dont thing I will be available on Nov 4th..


This is my Platform for the Presidency!


Bring back corporal punishment-for parents. Smack them on their arse in public- For the sins of the 'best friends'. If parents are willing to be that to their stupid kids, let them take the bullet too.

Cash only transactions. For anything under 5,000

Revise the system. Any lawsuit for malpractice, pain and suffering or stupidity will be reduced by 50% with the other 50% divided between social services and medical care for the poor.

Any CEO will be paid according to what his company employees deems his salary to be. Not to exceed the average employee's salary by 25%.

Casual Dress Mondays, Tuesdays and Fridays.

Every company with more than 10 employees will have Ice Cream Socials once a month. Under 10 workers? You will hire Ice Cream Trucks to drive up to the front door of the business.

Stupd Idea Day, Once a month on the last Thursday of the Month.

Instead of war? MMA Instead! Get your best mixed marial arts guy and we settle any inter-national hassles that way.

If you don't cooperate? We surround your country and only let in Soy Cakes and Sugar Frosted Flakes, the ones with Micheal Phelps on the package.

Stuttering politicians, Politicos that have had sex in office, figuratively and literally, ones were lawyers, community organizers or have any ties to felons, present, past and in the future will be kicked out of office and must spend every Tuesday visiting their friends.

All political promises will be reviewed at the end of every 90 days and pay docked accordingly.

The followers of the losing presidential candidate will be asked to volunteer at a local school, to show how graceful losers should act and not act.

School rules will be enforced with no predjudice or favor to the kids.

Free colonoscopys for everyone-the only charge will be for the removal of any impacted cranial material found in the colon.

Stupid people will be sent to Costco for a law license or to Starbucks for the 1/2 off latte sale in 2550.

No more blogging on the internet. Instead people will be asked to write labels and instructions, especailly for furniture bought at IKEA.

Prices for everything DISNEY will not be more than 9.99.

Mc Donald's Quarter Pounders will be sold at the Capitol for the House and Senate everyday. No BAG LUNCHES ALLOWED.

Nancy Pelosi will be given extensive psych evaluation, Joe Biden a wig, BO speaking lessons-included will be a dog collar -the kind that shocks him for every Umm and Ahhh.

George Bush gets retirement and a kick in the arse for being the president. Dick CHeney, a new shotgun and hunting trips with stupid politicians. John McCain gets a personal secretary to manage that internet he can't use. Palin gets an a cat proof suit, menses and free bullets for life.

And all the puppy voters will get free pee pee pads for their couches, one month before each election.

lizbud
09-26-2008, 04:53 PM
Here is the article by Kathleen Parker, that Jan Greenburg mentions. The original is at Townhall.com - not the most left leaning website.


Thanks for posting the article itself. I'm glad she admitted that first
impressions can be soooooo wrong.:)

DJFyrewolf36
09-26-2008, 08:26 PM
This is my Platform for the Presidency!


Bring back corporal punishment-for parents. Smack them on their arse in public- For the sins of the 'best friends'. If parents are willing to be that to their stupid kids, let them take the bullet too.

Cash only transactions. For anything under 5,000

Revise the system. Any lawsuit for malpractice, pain and suffering or stupidity will be reduced by 50% with the other 50% divided between social services and medical care for the poor.

Any CEO will be paid according to what his company employees deems his salary to be. Not to exceed the average employee's salary by 25%.

Casual Dress Mondays, Tuesdays and Fridays.

Every company with more than 10 employees will have Ice Cream Socials once a month. Under 10 workers? You will hire Ice Cream Trucks to drive up to the front door of the business.

Stupd Idea Day, Once a month on the last Thursday of the Month.

Instead of war? MMA Instead! Get your best mixed marial arts guy and we settle any inter-national hassles that way.

If you don't cooperate? We surround your country and only let in Soy Cakes and Sugar Frosted Flakes, the ones with Micheal Phelps on the package.

Stuttering politicians, Politicos that have had sex in office, figuratively and literally, ones were lawyers, community organizers or have any ties to felons, present, past and in the future will be kicked out of office and must spend every Tuesday visiting their friends.

All political promises will be reviewed at the end of every 90 days and pay docked accordingly.

The followers of the losing presidential candidate will be asked to volunteer at a local school, to show how graceful losers should act and not act.

School rules will be enforced with no predjudice or favor to the kids.

Free colonoscopys for everyone-the only charge will be for the removal of any impacted cranial material found in the colon.

Stupid people will be sent to Costco for a law license or to Starbucks for the 1/2 off latte sale in 2550.

No more blogging on the internet. Instead people will be asked to write labels and instructions, especailly for furniture bought at IKEA.

Prices for everything DISNEY will not be more than 9.99.

Mc Donald's Quarter Pounders will be sold at the Capitol for the House and Senate everyday. No BAG LUNCHES ALLOWED.

Nancy Pelosi will be given extensive psych evaluation, Joe Biden a wig, BO speaking lessons-included will be a dog collar -the kind that shocks him for every Umm and Ahhh.

George Bush gets retirement and a kick in the arse for being the president. Dick CHeney, a new shotgun and hunting trips with stupid politicians. John McCain gets a personal secretary to manage that internet he can't use. Palin gets an a cat proof suit, menses and free bullets for life.

And all the puppy voters will get free pee pee pads for their couches, one month before each election.

You have my vote..

blue
09-26-2008, 09:49 PM
Unless the interview was live, I didnt see it but heard parts of it, given enough raw footage a good editor can make anyone look good or bad.

Grace
09-26-2008, 10:19 PM
Unless the interview was live, I didnt see it but heard parts of it, given enough raw footage a good editor can make anyone look good or bad.

True - but no one from the McCain/Palin camp has come out to dispute what has been shown. And that was done with the Gibson interview.

blue
09-26-2008, 10:26 PM
True - but no one from the McCain/Palin camp has come out to dispute what has been shown. And that was done with the Gibson interview.

The Gibson interview or the SNL skit? The Gibson interview was just as big of a joke.

Grace
09-26-2008, 10:35 PM
The Gibson interview or the SNL skit? The Gibson interview was just as big of a joke.

I said the Gibson interview, as in Charles on ABC news. Loved the SNL skit! And once again, no one has refuted the Couric interview.

Puckstop31
09-26-2008, 10:36 PM
Blue... Good to see ya here bro..

This place is fun. :)

Puckstop31
09-26-2008, 10:39 PM
I said the Gibson interview, as in Charles on ABC news. Loved the SNL skit! And once again, no one has refuted the Couric interview.

Just like you have not told me how OB;s econonomic plan helps the economy... Surely a larger issue, eh?

Hate Palin all you want. You not responding to this issue is THUNDERING in it's report.

Grace
09-26-2008, 10:39 PM
Apparently some in the GOP are concerned - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13991.html

blue
09-26-2008, 10:43 PM
I said the Gibson interview, as in Charles on ABC news. Loved the SNL skit! And once again, no one has refuted the Couric interview.

The Couric interview was fluff as far as I can see. I did LMAO at the "I can see Russia from my house". Keep in mind she has had to deal with other countries with trade deals for our natural resource sales.



Blue... Good to see ya here bro..

This place is fun. :)

Found this place looking for you and Sparks.

Grace
09-26-2008, 10:49 PM
Just like you have not told me how OB;s econonomic plan helps the economy... Surely a larger issue, eh?

Hate Palin all you want. You not responding to this issue is THUNDERING in it's report.

I looked back through this thread, and this is your first post. So when, specifically, did you ask me to speak about any economic plan?

I do not hate Palin - that would be a waste of my time and energy.

Again, how can I respond to an issue when I haven't been asked about it?

Puckstop31
09-26-2008, 10:54 PM
I looked back through this thread, and this is your first post. So when, specifically, did you ask me to speak about any economic plan?

I do not hate Palin - that would be a waste of my time and energy.

Again, how can I respond to an issue when I haven't been asked about it?


I have asked this question MANY times here.

"I am still waiting... No, PLEADING with the Obama people here to make the case to me for his economic plan. No baiting or trolling... I want to hear it from one of the people who believe in him.

All I need to know is the answer to one question. How does raising ANY taxes help? The last thing we need now is petty class warfare."

Amongst others...


Tell me, HOW does raising taxes on ANYone, help?

Grace
09-26-2008, 11:11 PM
I have asked this question MANY times here.

"I am still waiting... No, PLEADING with the Obama people here to make the case to me for his economic plan. No baiting or trolling... I want to hear it from one of the people who believe in him.

All I need to know is the answer to one question. How does raising ANY taxes help? The last thing we need now is petty class warfare."

Amongst others...


Tell me, HOW does raising taxes on ANYone, help?

Feel free to start a thread on the subject.

blue
09-26-2008, 11:19 PM
Feel free to start a thread on the subject.

I like you and Im liking this place.

Edwina's Secretary
09-26-2008, 11:20 PM
Thank you Grace! I had missed the Palin interview with Couric...am so glad you posted it. THAT should be required viewing!

From now on my answer to any mildly challenging question will be "let me get back to you on that!"

Oh my! "Well my friend...let me get back to you on that!"

Love it.

blue
09-26-2008, 11:25 PM
Thank you Grace! I had missed the Palin interview with Couric...am so glad you posted it. THAT should be required viewing!

From now on my answer to any mildly challenging question will be "let me get back to you on that!"

Oh my! "Well my friend...let me get back to you on that!"

Love it.

So you like to hear "Im gonna tax...."

Edwina's Secretary
09-26-2008, 11:28 PM
So you like to hear "Im gonna tax...."


Let me get back to you on that! LOL!!!

blue
09-26-2008, 11:36 PM
Umm
..

RICHARD
09-27-2008, 12:56 AM
Couric was really funny(read stupid).


"I want to ask you about the Alaskan HIghway and the reason why it goes north to south parallel to the longitudinal lines the demarcate the planet on a globe or map but are mysteriously absent on the earth. Satellitie photos don'st show them either and how will that affect your Vice presidency when you wear red socks, no, not like the baseball team?"

Her questions were more convoluted than my large intestine after an evening of cool ranch Doritos, tequila and that real hot sauce I like.:eek:

Couric has about as much political saavy as one of my cat's nail clippings. Someone threw her this 'bone' of an interview and she ran with it.

Right into a wall.

Give Katie back her old job of interviewing 'stars' and asking about where people shop. Otherwise she's just a seat warmer.:rolleyes:

rosethecopycat
09-27-2008, 08:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB5VPvT7sFo&feature=related

:rolleyes:

lizbud
09-27-2008, 09:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB5VPvT7sFo&feature=related

:rolleyes:



Naw, this one is much funnier.:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Q_7DpuQ3M

Grace
09-27-2008, 09:17 AM
Naw, this one is much funnier.:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Q_7DpuQ3M

Personally, I find that video frightening. What was McCain thinking . . . . . :confused:

lizbud
09-27-2008, 09:20 AM
Personally, I find that video frightening. What was McCain thinking . . . . . :confused:


Oh wow, I can't wait to see the VP debate.:D I guess ignorance really
is bliss.:D

rosethecopycat
09-27-2008, 05:45 PM
Naw, this one is much funnier.:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Q_7DpuQ3M


Awwww, come on.

Biden prefaces his own ignorance by saying "part of what a leader does is to instill confidence, to demonstrate he or she knows what they are talking about"

Then he 'demonstrates' for us by not knowing who the President was at the time of the '29 crash, and that he couldn't have possibly 'gone on TV'

That is CLASSIC!!!!
:D:D:D:p:p:p:D:D:D

Palin was just trying to pad her resume. Just like every other resume or bio I've ever seen, from anybody about anything. It didn't strike me as funny, just weak.

Edwina's Secretary
09-27-2008, 07:36 PM
Palin was just trying to pad her resume. Just like every other resume or bio I've ever seen, from anybody about anything. It didn't strike me as funny, just weak.

What kind of people do you know? I look at resumes every day. And I check on the claims made on those resumes.

People pad...they don't get hired.

Sad to see "resume padding"....aka lying...excused as "everyone does it!"

rosethecopycat
09-27-2008, 08:11 PM
What kind of people do you know? I look at resumes every day. And I check on the claims made on those resumes.

People pad...they don't get hired.

Sad to see "resume padding"....aka lying...excused as "everyone does it!"

Well, in the entertainment industry resumes are padded routinely.

"performed extensively abroad/ worldwide" can mean worked on a cruise ship.

I know that's not the 'day job' resumes that you are looking at. However, they are out there and how do you define lying vs padding? And how do you confirm it, in my example?

I agree that Sarah Palin shouldn't make it sound as if she has experience that she doesn't have. The question is, why would she think she has to do this when Obama has no real experience either.

Edwina's Secretary
09-27-2008, 08:31 PM
However, they are out there and how do you define lying vs padding? And how do you confirm it, in my example?

I agree that Sarah Palin shouldn't make it sound as if she has experience that she doesn't have. The question is, why would she think she has to do this when Obama has no real experience either.

I define padding as lying. I did not know that telling the truth is so nuanced.

Why would she think she has to tell the truth? What an interesting...and sad...comment. Your rationale for her lying is..."because Obama has no real experience it is okay for her to lie." Wow.

blue
09-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Keep in mind as Gov she has had to deal with other nations while dealing with the overseas sales of our natural resources.

RICHARD
09-27-2008, 09:10 PM
"performed extensively abroad/ worldwide" can mean worked on a cruise ship.



You can't use the term 'abroad', try 'overseas'.;)

kitten645
09-27-2008, 10:31 PM
"Well, in the entertainment industry resumes are padded routinely."

Well that explains alot. Oy vey! Here's a quarter..buy a clue. :rolleyes:

Grace
09-27-2008, 10:43 PM
More Palin views from Conservatives -



Conservative Columnist: Palin Must Go
Sept. 27, 2008(CBS/AP) A conservative columnist who welcomed Sarah Palin's entry in national politics now says she's proven to be a dud, and called on her to step aside as John McCain's running mate.

Kathleen Parker, writing in the National Review Online, says her "cringe reflex is exhausted" after watching the Alaska governor stumble through TV interviews and it's become clear to her that Palin is out of her league.

"No one hates saying that more than I do," Parker writes. "Like so many women, I've been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I've also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does."

Palin, new to national politics, boosted Republican presidential nominee John McCain in polls and excited the party's core conservatives when he chose the first-term governor for his ticket.

Some of that shine has since worn off in polls.

Parker said she thought Palin was a "refreshing feminist of a different order" when she joined the ticket, but it's become clear she doesn't know enough about economics or foreign policy to be president should that become necessary in a McCain administration.

Writes Parker:

"Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there’s not much content there. Here’s but one example of many from her interview with Hannity: “Well, there is a danger in allowing some obsessive partisanship to get into the issue that we’re talking about today. And that’s something that John McCain, too, his track record, proving that he can work both sides of the aisle, he can surpass the partisanship that must be surpassed to deal with an issue like this.”

When Couric pointed to polls showing that the financial crisis had boosted Obama’s numbers, Palin blustered wordily: “I’m not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who’s more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who’s actually done it?”

If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself."

Parker suggests that Palin could bow out for "personal reasons," such as to care for her infant son: "No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first."

Parker wasn't the only national Review writer to call for a shake-up in the McCain campaign. Kathryn Jean Lopez wrote that Palin is not coming off at her best in interviews, and notes that in keeping Palin on a tight media leash the campaign is potentially hurting the ticket more:

" If Sarah Palin is John McCain’s secret weapon, let her go, whoever is holding her back. And, frankly, if it turns out that the 'authentic' Palin of rallies and the Republican convention is just good speech delivery in a woman with some good spirit, I want to know that sooner rather than later. (Mitt’s still available … "

rosethecopycat
09-28-2008, 09:47 AM
I define padding as lying. I did not know that telling the truth is so nuanced.

Why would she think she has to tell the truth? What an interesting...and sad...comment. Your rationale for her lying is..."because Obama has no real experience it is okay for her to lie." Wow.






I can clearly see that you are against lying. Just for fun, I'd like you to have a look at my real life credentials. For the record, I have no bio or resume. I've been gainfully employed or self employed for 30 years and have never had to present a resume. I run a sole proprietorship and an S corporation.
Here's what mine could say:

Biography:
Extensive professional musical performance Overseas and Worldwide. ( I worked on a cruise ship for 12 years-having been to over 100 port of call in over 60 countries- I was performing and it wasn't in the U.S., so where was it? I was technically IN the foreign country at the time)

...I have international clientele for arranging music (yes, the vast majority in the U.S. and Canada and one guy from Australia)

No lies here.


Now for the S corp.

MDF, Inc. (this is not the actual name of my S corp, and it is coincidental if I am using a real company name for my purposes here, it is unintentional and I apologize)

If you disregard the parenthetical realities, it sounds pretty good, and is completely truthful.

Resume:

Position:President of MDF, Inc. from 2005 to date. (I am the only officer and employee)
Majority stockholder in the corporation. (there is one one share of stock-and I have it)
Duties: to oversee the day to day business of the company (I oversee myself-loading my gear in the car)
and to manage the staff. (which is only myself)
Under my leadership the company has realized expansive growth over recent years. Revenues have quadrupled from 2005 to 2006. (not difficult- I was only in business one month of 2005) MDF has acquired financing (I gave my company a loan) new assets and facilities under my leadership. I have also been in charge of marketing and advertising. (I got some business cards and magnets) MDF has been a part of many successful joint ventures under my leadership (I worked with other contractors)
MDF has realized profitability and success due to my leadership skills.

I realize that this is an amatuerish attempt at writing a resume, like I said, I know nothing about resumes, I've never had one.
But, the point is you can make something sound really good, and still be truthful.
It was said that padding is lying. I padded the heck out of this and didn't lie.

Now, about Sarah Palin.
Can you tell me, in the video, exactly where she lied? What was untruthful and not a matter of opinion?
BTW, what did you think of Bill Clinton's lying?

rosethecopycat
09-28-2008, 09:50 AM
"Well, in the entertainment industry resumes are padded routinely."

Well that explains alot. Oy vey! Here's a quarter..buy a clue. :rolleyes:


Condescension.
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

RICHARD
09-28-2008, 11:13 AM
BTW, what did you think of Bill Clinton's lying?

He was standing up at the time.:confused:

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Here's my question,

Since Pam Anderson is in the entertainment industry, would she need to pad her 'resumes'?


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Since we are an Idiocra-----ah, Democracy-where are the pieces regarding the requests for Biden to pull out for the good of the country?

Oh. Since we have 'old guy' running for President we have to let "other old dottering guy" run for VP. It's the 'Murican way!

Edwina's Secretary
09-28-2008, 11:39 AM
Palin was just trying to pad her resume. Just like every other resume or bio I've ever seen, from anybody about anything. It didn't strike me as funny, just weak.

You said it!

It's like this. Earlier this week on a flight from London to New York a passenger became sick. The plane was diverted to Dublin Ireland.

If Ms. Palin was on that plane and said she had been to Ireland would that be "padding" or "lying"?

You ask how I would determine if an applicant was lying/padding. I would ask her what she saw, where she went, how long she was there.

And bonus points for "What about Bill Clinton lying." Back to everyone else does it so it is okay" argument?

sasvermont
09-28-2008, 07:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFpAPyq4fA&feature=bzb302 such a hoot

lvpets2002
09-29-2008, 10:39 AM
:p Oh I can't wait for Palin & Biden Debate.. I am going to just soak that Debate up..

Grace
09-29-2008, 12:51 PM
She's on her way to Sedona, Arizona for Debate Camp.

From CNN -


As some prominent conservatives begin to raise the question of whether Sarah Palin should remain on the Republican presidential ticket – and others call for her to be given more public exposure in a bid to reverse falling poll numbers – the McCain campaign is bringing the Alaska governor to John McCain’s Sedona ranch for several days of intense debate prep.

Senior campaign advisor Steve Schmidt and other top officials met Palin in Philadelphia Sunday night, and are traveling with her and McCain to a Columbus, Ohio event Monday morning. The group then heads to Arizona.

The original plan was for Palin to prepare in St. Louis, where the vice presidential debate will be held Thursday. Instead, she has already been preparing in a Philadelphia hotel for four days with advisors. She will now get ready for the debate at McCain’s rustic creek-side home — what a top aide calls "debate camp."

The aide, who's part of the team prepping Palin, tells CNN they decided to take her to debate camp there because it is an "invigorating and enjoyable place to prepare for Thursday."

"SP [Sarah Palin] loves it, and has her kids and Todd coming," wrote the aide in an e-mail, and that "John McCain himself came up with the idea.”

Late last week, in the wake of a widely-panned interview with Katie Couric of CBS News, some prominent conservatives who had supported Palin’s vice presidential bid, including National Review columnist Kathleen Parker, suggested she step down before the election.

Edwina's Secretary
09-29-2008, 03:35 PM
And...she will be in Arizona...a state that shares a real border with another country.

It will increase her international experience by 100%! :D:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

caseysmom
09-29-2008, 03:48 PM
And...she will be in Arizona...a state that shares a real border with another country.

It will increase her international experience by 100%! :D:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

Well its a good thing you moved to California, you never know when you need to use that on your resume "expert on Mexican American foreign policy"

lizbud
09-29-2008, 05:16 PM
Keep in mind as Gov she has had to deal with other nations while dealing with the overseas sales of our natural resources.


"In what respect Charlie?"

RICHARD
09-30-2008, 04:50 AM
you need to use that on your resume "expert on Mexican American foreign policy"

Say what?

What do you mean by that statement?

What do the Mexicans have to do with it?


IF you are going to play race cards, I'll see you 50 and raise you another 50.....

caseysmom
09-30-2008, 10:29 AM
Say what?

What do you mean by that statement?

What do the Mexicans have to do with it?


IF you are going to play race cards, I'll see you 50 and raise you another 50.....

If you read my post in the context of the post I was replying to.....

Edwina's Secretary
09-30-2008, 10:59 AM
Say what?

What do you mean by that statement?

What do the Mexicans have to do with it?


IF you are going to play race cards, I'll see you 50 and raise you another 50.....

Let me help you out here RICHARD....what Mexicans have to do with it is they live in Mexico. Which is a different country than the US. And shares a border with Arizona. And California also shares a border with Mexico.

And in English, "Mexican" can refer to...as in the sentence you quoted, things other than people. In this sentence it refers to the policies between Mexico and the United States (referred to as the Mexican American foreign policy.)

See? I hope that helps. It's real simple if you just follow the bouncing ball....

It is the same as if someone made a joke about the governor of North Dakota having experience in Canadian American Foreign Policy!:D:D

RICHARD
09-30-2008, 11:27 AM
If you read my post in the context of the post I was replying to.....

I read enough. So, what does living in California have to do with Mexican American foreign policy?
What does that imply?

Edwina's Secretary
09-30-2008, 11:33 AM
I read enough. So, what does living in California have to do with Mexican American foreign policy?
What does that imply?

Give it a rest RICHARD....

caseysmom
09-30-2008, 12:54 PM
I read enough. So, what does living in California have to do with Mexican American foreign policy?
What does that imply?

I can see Mexico from my house... follow along....

RICHARD
09-30-2008, 01:40 PM
I can see Mexico from my house... follow along....

So, is that supposed to be funny?

And what does living in California have to do with that?

I am not a follower.
When you are dumb enough to follow anyone you run the risk of showing up in the ER for a
Analcraniectomy should they stop too quickly.

caseysmom
09-30-2008, 02:00 PM
So, is that supposed to be funny?

And what does living in California have to do with that?

I am not a follower.
When you are dumb enough to follow anyone you run the risk of showing up in the ER for a
Analcraniectomy should they stop too quickly.

Never Mind geesh:rolleyes:

RICHARD
09-30-2008, 02:31 PM
Never Mind geesh:rolleyes:

Now that's Roseanne Roseannadanna, But, she didn't do the 'geesh" or rolleye thingie, that was way before computers and when SNL was funny.

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Two rules about living in California.

The closest people will get to seeing anything "Mexican" from their house is a gardner and the sign that welcomes them to a city with name in spanish where the homes cost way too much.

The other thing is the street sign on the end of the block that says, "Los Huevos" or "Besame las Nalgas". Otherwise...