The Verdict for Jack is In --- Post #84

[4 Dog Mother]

spent the night in Toledo last night with my sister but got a phone call from Christy this morning that Jack was peeing blood. It was already almost 11 so I told her to call the vets and see if they would wait until I got home ( which would take about an hour) or if he needed to be seen sooner. Christy packed up the 2 kids and Jack and took him in. I called when I got about 15 minutes from the vet's office but Christy was checking out already and didn't sound like she could explain to me what Dr. James told her very well. So I asked her to ask Dr. James could call me in about 15 minutes.

They did some x-rays to rule out gall bladder stones. She feels that he has a kidney stone which is rare in a dog but like she said whose dog would come up with a rare thing than one of mine! So he needs an ultrasound. I'm like No, I don't want to take him to Columbus!!! And she said for this one of the vets here in town has an ultrasound machine and while it isn't the first choice scenario, she thinks that would be okay in this situation. The down side is they don't read their own ultrasounds but send them out so there would be a delay in finding out what it showed. He really needs to be on a 24 hour fast before the ultrasound because because it would also show feces and other things that might make seeing a kidney stone harder. So she will call that vet's office on Monday and set up an appointment as soon as possible. Meanwhile he goes back on pain pills because she says he has to be in pain (although we can't tell because he is so stoic) and an antiobiotic because he already has an infection going. We will have to watch him carefully through the weekend to make sure he drinks and pees. If he doesn't pee, it means he may have a blood clot that is obstructing his flow and more infection could result. Until they get the results of the ultrasound they don't know how they will treat it because they need to know size, location, etc. So Lot and Lots more prayers needed for my Jackie boy - hopefully it is small enough that he can pass it on his own


An then the vet told me a shocking thing. Someone in the past tried to kill Jack!!!! He is full of buck shot. At some time, someone tried to kill him by shooting him with a shotgun and then leaving him to die!!!!! Can you even imagine? He has the little pieces all up and down his legs, around his stomach - one is very close to his lung and one is just below his spine which would have paralzyed him had it cut the cord and he probably would have died because he wouldn't have been able to get food or water. She said it was a very old wound - we have had him for 5 years now and he is suppose to be about 10. We are just shocked that someone would do something to our poor guy. As those who have met him can testify, Jack is one of the quietest, sweetest, loving dogs there is. Who would have done something like this? How cruel could they be?

[Karen]

Oh my goodness! I can testify to what a complete and mellow sweetie Jack is. The poor thing! Thank goodness he is now with a family who loves him.

Give him a kiss on that curly noggin for me, okay?

[4 Dog Mother]

I have been hugging and kissing on him since I got home and found out. But right now he is konked out sleeping since we gave him his pain pill! Poor baby!

[Cinder & Smoke]

:eek:
Hi God ~

We think You've been on Jack's Team a lot longer than we ever knew ...
THANKS fur helpin him through the :eek: shotgun blast!!

Now that he duzzint need to worrie about havin a Lovin Home ...
Maybe You kan koncintrate on just gettin him to Feelin Better.

We'll all be krossin Pawz an Klawz waitin to hear how his Ultrasound turns out.

And God ~ don't furget Mom!
She's gonna need a lotta {{{God's Hugs}}} ta get through this!

THANKS, God!
/s/ the Prayer Pups

[chocolatepuppy]

Oh geez, Jack has had enough already! And to think someone shot him!:( I will keep Jack in my prayers, hopefully this won't be serious and he'll be back to normal in no time.

[Freedom]

Dear Jack, sending along some gentle hugs and snuggles. Hope the white coats can help you feel better with this kidney stone or whatever it is.

I am so surprised to learn of the shotgun blast - as you were! What a trouper he is.

[lizbud]

I hate to think about it much, but there are mean, evil people out there
in this world. Poor Jack had to run into one of them.:(

I hope the stone is small enough to pass on it's own & will keep him in my
prayers.

[krazyaboutkatz]

I'm so sorry to hear about Jack.:( I'll keep him in my thoughts and prayers.

[Cincy'sMom]

Poor Jack!! Those first five years must have been something!!! He is so lucky that he ended up in a loving home. No woner he likes to just lay around and relax! He had neverknown such comfort and safety!!!

Lots of prayers that the stone will pass on its own.

[Pam]

:eek:
Hi God ~

We think You've been on Jack's Team a lot longer than we ever knew ...



Phred that is so true!

Big (((hugs))) for you Diana as well as gentle ones for Jack. The waiting is so hard, isn't it?

[shais_mom]

oh my Major LES when thinking what someone did to him.

big GENTLE hugs to that sweet boy and here's hoping the stone will pass...

[Cataholic]

Get better, Jack!

[cyber-sibes]

:eek: That is truly shocking. My eyes are welling up thinking of someone doing that to poor Jack. He is such a sweetheart! Now its clear why he ruined his teeth gnawing on the chains that were keeping him there. Poor guy was desperate to get away!!! I am SO GLAD he's with your family. Please give him a petting & a smooch from me. We'll keep paws crossed this little stone episode is over quickly.

[gini]

I just cannot believe that someone would do such a cruel thing to an innocent animal.

That is why I feel severe penalties should be metted out to anyone that is guilty of animal abuse.

I hope Jack can pass the stone and he will be well once again. Please give that sweet boy some extra pats and kiss on his head from me.

[anna_66]

Poor Jack!! Those first five years must have been something!!! He is so lucky that he ended up in a loving home. No woner he likes to just lay around and relax! He had neverknown such comfort and safety!!!

No kidding, he's definately one lucky dog. I can't imagine anyone doing that.

Lots of hugs, prayers and good thoughts sent your way Jackie boy!

[ChrisH]

How awful, poor Jack. :(

Cruelty and neglect abounds everywhere and, like Liz, I feel people who do such things to those without defence, be they animal or human, should receive the severest punishment. *Gets off soapbox*

Big prayers on the way for your dear boy.

[4 Dog Mother]

Jack will be going in tomorrow to a different vet's office to have the ultrasound done. The person who does them does not read them so they will be sent away so I will probably not know until Wed. or Thurs what is wrong. Dr. James showed me the x-rays so I got to see the buck shot in Jack. It definitely is weird seeing these little bits of metal in your dog's legs and around his lungs. She also showed me the areas she is concerned with - the kidney has an enlarged area that she said is probably the stone but the other kidney looks to be enlarged too pushing the colon over to one side. Whatever is going on, I hope there is a quick, easy fix. Yeah, right, this is one of MY dogs.

I have to drop him off between 7:30 and 8:30 but they won't do the test til later - I don't know when I have to pick him up.

So keep on praying for my boy!

[Cinder & Smoke]

Jack will be going in tomorrow to a different vet's office to have the ultrasound done.

So keep on praying for my boy!

Hi God ~

Tubby & Peanut know the way to Findlay; have You got Your *skrubbies* anna Halo Hat
all laid out? The Silver Klowd will be stoppin for You purdy urlee!

Jack may be a lil nerbus - different White Coats ... kan You hold his paw?
An ask 'em to go eazie wiffa BuzzKut onna furrz ... poor Bowz kame home lookin :eek: NEKED
onna tummie after he had his kidney rock ultrasound!

We'll all be prayin fur a good diagnosis.

THANKS, God!
/s/ the Prayer Pups

-------------------------------------------------------

Hey MOM ~~~

How'z Jack's Phlower Phund doin?
Duz it need a refill or a transfuzion?

[captain]

I feel people who do such things to those without defence, be they animal or human, should receive the severest punishment.

Chris,
I would happily deal out that punishment :mad::mad::mad:

{{{{gentle hugs}}} to darlin Jack.

[Karen]

Prayers on the way. One more kiss on that curly noggin from me, okay, Diana?

[RobiLee]

I just can't believe what Jack has been through :eek:

Lots of prayers are being said for Jack and the family.

{{HUGS}}

[Cincy'sMom]

Lots of thoughts and prayers for Jack today.

[pitc9]

Thinking of you and Jack today!

[4 Dog Mother]

Jack had his ultrasound about 2:00 today. The vet called me and said they couldn't get Jack to lay on his side - would I mind if they gave him some medicine that would relax him more. Jack is pretty easy going as long as you don't try to force him into a position. I hadn't thought about their needing to lay him down to do an ultrasound. I of course, said yes and he was ready to be picked up shortly after 3. He is still pretty tired - all he has done is sleep - not even food will tempt him and he hasn't eaten anything in 27 hours. They send the ultrasound out to be read so I should hear back either tomorrow afternoon or Thursday morning. It's hard now knowing what this might be and what it might mean to his future health.

So more waiting and praying!

[Cinder & Smoke]

THANKS, God!! ;)




The vet called me and said they couldn't get Jack to lay on his side -

I hadn't thought about their needing to lay him down to do an ultrasound.


OMG! :p

I never gave that a thought, either, when they trotted off with ole Bowser
to do his kidney / bladder rock ultrasound! :eek:
Talk about STUBBORN :rolleyes: ... Dunno HOW they did it!
Lil Tiny Gal that brought him back to the exam room said he did GREAT.

Hard to believe they let him 'stand' - there wouldn't have been room
for the Transducer to fit under his tummy ... SHORT legs, ya'know!
And he was never one to Lay Down on command ...
And they sure didn't use any knock-out drops - he *Danced* back 15 minutes after he left.

How DID they do it??
Bowz *amazes me* every time I think of him!

Glad Jack got through his Ultrasound with nothing worse than a case of the Sleepies.

Prayers on the way for a Good Reading!
;)

[ramanth]

Gracious!! Well Jack definitely knew you'd be coming along. What a fighter! Get better soon sweet boy! :love:

[Cincy'sMom]

Thinking of you guys and hoping for positive news soon! The waiting is often the hardest part!!!

[Cataholic]

Prayers coming to you guys from down here!

[joycenalex]

jack was shot?!?, karma will catch up to the creep that did that. and sending hopeful thoughts for jack and you (are you gonna send any of the grandkids to vet school? )

[cyber-sibes]

Just stopping by to check up on Jack. Feisty when he wants to be huh?;)

Paws still crossed for him.

[lizbud]

Sending sending positive thoughts for a good outcome for Jack.

I'm sure my pups would never lay still for an ultrasound test either.:)

[4 Dog Mother]

The vet who did the ultrasound called this morning with some not so good news about Jack. I then talked to my vet to see what her feelings were on the information and it wasn't any better. In fact, she brought words into it that I did not want to hear

Jack has multiple cysts on his left kidney. His right kidney doesn't even look like a kidney - they don't know if a tumor has encased the kidney or what is going on for sure. His prostrate is also swollen although there is no signs of anything going on to the architecture of it (that's her words) so it might not be cancer. The right kidney could very well be cancerous.

SO Jack is going back to the ultrasound people next Tuesday to have an ultrasound looking down from above so he would be standing up to see if they can find anything that resembles a kidney on the right side. It could be a tumor on the adrenal gland pushing the kidney out of the way. They way they spoke if it is of the adrenal glad and it's that big it is most likely cancer.
Depending on how much interfering the cysts on the left kidney is doing to it's job will depend on whether they can remove the right kidney. If they remove a kidney my vets can do it. If it is the adrenal gland a specialist needs to do it and that means another trip to Columbus. The ultrasound doctor will also be doing more x-rays on his chest to see if there is any signs of growths in his lungs.

None of this information is good. There is no really easy way out with this one.

Please, please pray from Jack. And us. I don't know if I can handle losing another dog so soon after Snoopy.

[cyber-sibes]

:( Diana, I'm so sorry the news wasn't better. Prayers for Jack and all of you (((hugs)))

[Pawsitive Thinking]

If anyone can beat whatever this is, it is your Jack. Poor little fella

[Cincy'sMom]

I was so afraid it would be news like this. I am so sorry. Poor Jack. We are thinking of you and prayng hard

[krazyaboutkatz]

I'm so sorry to hear this.:( Lots of prayers and positive thoughts are being sent Jack's way.

[Cinder & Smoke]

Please, please pray for Jack.
And us.

I don't know if I can handle losing another dog so soon after Snoopy.

We're Prayin, Mom!

And Jack's NOT lost ... we're just pullin over to read da map ...
might have to fire up the GPS on this one ... but we'll find our way.

BIG {{{HUGS}}} for Jack and You Guys!!

;)

[Karen]

Aww, prayers on the way.

[lizbud]

I am so sorry to hear this.:( I am still praying this isn't as bad as it
might seem. I hope this next test shows them a better picture & a better
diagnosis. (((Hugs))) to Jack & family.

[Rachel]

Please understand what I'm saying when I say I don't want to wrap my mind around this one. That helpless feeling that pervades this type of situation is overwhelming. It is hard enough when we have to go through all the medical tests, treatments, etc., but when we have to do for our pets to whom we have no way of offering an explanation, the stress is just awful. Know that I will be praying for Jack and for you and Carl.

[gini]

I am so sorry that you and Jack are going through this. You certainly have my prayers.

[Ginger's Mom]

I am so sorry to hear this. This past year has been incredibly rough for all of you. Prayers on the way.

[cassiesmom]

Prayers for Jack - a kiss to him for me, too please

[pitc9]

Oh Diana... I'm so sorry to hear the news.

Prayers for you that you stay strong for him and prayers for Jack that he sticks around here a while longer!
{{hugs}}

[MoonandBean]

I am just catching this thread now. I am so sorry that you and Jack have to go through this. I often remind myself of the "down side" of loving so much. But, of course, it is worth it and we all choose to love them with all our hearts. I will pray for you and Jack. And please remember what a GREAT life Jack has had since you gave him his furrever home :)

[Grace]

Prayers for all of you. I'm thinking a permanent shrine on the front lawn might be a good idea?

And if you all need another GPS, we have one you could borrow.

[Daisy and Delilah]

I'm so sorry that I'm just seeing this and doubly sorry about poor Jack!! How horrible for all of you. I am praying so hard that Jack will suddenly get better and everything will be ok. Poor little fella--he's been through enough. You all have:( {{{{{HUGS}}}}}

[anna_66]

What disappointing news:(

You'll all be in my thoughts and prayers through this difficult time.

[K9soul]

I just caught up on this thread. Please know Jack is in my prayers, as well as you and the family, who have already had to deal with so much grief. It just is not fair. I will be praying with all my heart for some positive news from Jack's tests.

[Pam]

I often remind myself of the "down side" of loving so much.

Isn't that the truth.

Diana, this is definitely not the kind of update that I was hoping for. You have had too much sadness with the loss of Snoopy and now this. We will hope and pray that there is a happy ending for Jack. (((Big hugs for you)) and gentle hugs for Jack.

[robinh]

Lots of prayers coming from me and the furkids.

[Catty1]

Prayers that his one kidney is healthy, in spite of the cysts...he can do well on one.:)

It's upsetting even more to think that these problems could mean some buckshot got into a kidney and festered....would sure like to know who did that and have them brought to justice!

HUGS to Jack, and fingers crossed.

[chocolatepuppy]

I'm sorry the news is so disappointing.:( I will continue to keep Jack and your family in my prayers.

[ramanth]

*HUGS* I'm sorry it's not better news. :( Many many prayers and healing vibes for Jack. :love:

[ChrisH]

So sorry that the results weren't as we'd hoped. :(

But ...

We're Prayin, Mom!

And Jack's NOT lost ... we're just pullin over to read da map ...
might have to fire up the GPS on this one ... but we'll find our way.

BIG {{{HUGS}}} for Jack and You Guys!!

;)
... I'm with the pups.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CwmmawrJet/Smiles/e3c7c46d.gif Prayers & positive thoughts continuing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CwmmawrJet/Smiles/grouphug.gif

[RobiLee]

More {{HUGS}} coming your way and more prayers being said.

[lizbud]

Thinking about Jack & praying for better news on tomorrow's tests.

[4 Dog Mother]

Keep praying Liz, but the tests are Tuesday. I know they will just have me drop him off early in the morning -- and the last time it was 2:00 before they did the test but I sure will be on pins and needles waiting for the results. They won't have the ultrasound result back but the x-rays may show what they want to know and what I don't want to know (growths in his lungs). I hate this waiting. And I hate even more the decision we may have to make.

[cassiesmom]

What disappointing news:(

You'll all be in my thoughts and prayers through this difficult time.

That goes for me, too.
Elyse

[boomersooner]

Again, prayers are sent. Please give him a kiss on the side of his nose for me....(my favorite kissy spot)

[K9karen]

Please understand what I'm saying when I say I don't want to wrap my mind around this one. That helpless feeling that pervades this type of situation is overwhelming. It is hard enough when we have to go through all the medical tests, treatments, etc., but when we have to do for our pets to whom we have no way of offering an explanation, the stress is just awful. Know that I will be praying for Jack and for you and Carl.

Sorry I just saw this, Diana. Thank you Rachel for putting it so eloquently. That's it exactly. Praying hard for our sweet Jack.

[captain]

I am thinking of you today.
{{{hugs}}}

[Cincy'sMom]

Lots of throughts and prayers for Jack and all of you today.

[Cinder & Smoke]

Hi God ~

You onna way to Findlay?

OK ... Glad ta know You're sittin in onna RE-Takes.

Bowz sez his sonagrams looked purdy good 'cept fur one lil Bladder Rock ...
he telled us we can "borrow" his filmz fur Jack iffin it'll help.

And whilst You're waitin wiff Jack, kan Ya reach out an give Mom sum
reelley BIG {{{God'sHugs}}}?

THANKS, God!
/s/ the Prayer Pups

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Thinking of you and our darling Jack :love:

[4 Dog Mother]

Thanks everyone for the continued prayers. I dropped Jack off a litte bit ago - he wasn't too happy to see me leave without him. She said they usually do the ultrasounds and x-rays between 2 and 3 so he should be good to go home when I get off work at 3. Last week I was concerned, this week I am going crazy worrying about what it is and what we feel we can and should do about it.

[lizbud]

Jack & family are in my prayers today. Praying & hoping for better news.

[cyber-sibes]

Saying prayers for your dear Jack.

[gini]

Please count on my prayers as well.:love:

[Ginger's Mom]

More prayers and good thoughts going out for Jack.

[ChrisH]

Extra prayers going out for Jack today.

[Catty1]

More prayers for dear Jack, and for the family that loves him so. :love:

[4 Dog Mother]

Well, I just picked Jack up. The tech who brought him out to me said that they didn't see any mastises (spelling) in the x-rays so that is good if there is any cancer any where it hasn't spread to his lungs. The ultrasound will come back tomorrow and we should know tomorrow night or Thursday morning what it showed. I am beginning to wonder if we are going to find out anything and we won't have to have more testing of some kind - which of course, I am not Looking forward to.


Keep on praying.

[Cinder & Smoke]

The tech who brought him out to me said that they didn't see any mastises (spelling)
in the x-rays so that is good if there is any cancer any where it hasn't spread to his lungs. :)

I am beginning to wonder if we are going to find out anything and
we won't have to have more testing of some kind -
which of course, I am not Looking forward to.

Keep on praying.

Well ... that's a GOOD Sign, so far.

More tests - that you're not looking forward to?
I'll bet Jack could do without "more tests", too! :p

More Prayers - we're on Continuous Loop ~ Fresh Prayers hourly! ;)

[pitc9]

Thinking of you all Diana, Carl, Jack and crew.

{{{hugs}}}

[krazyaboutkatz]

I hope that the ultrasound is all clear. Lots more prayers and positive thoughts are being sent his way. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

[ChrisH]

Good news there. :) Prayers & positive thoughts continuing.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Sounds hopeful! Still thinking of you all

[4 Dog Mother]

The vet who is doing the ultrasounds and testing called later last night to say she was having trouble sending the ultrasound out to the person who reads it and the tec support was already closed. So she won't be sending the ultrasound out until today. She felt she got a better reading on the kidneys - there are two but something is either attached to it or to the adrenal gland. That she felt that probably exploratory surgery in Columbus might be our next thing but of course, we still need to wait until we get the ultrasound person's report and then discuss with my vet. There is also the problem of the cysts on his other kidney which means if the took the kidney with the growth on it, he may be left with another probelm with the remaining kidney. And then of course there is the enlarged prostrate. And that although she did not see any other growths, it does not mean there are not any - there could be microscopic "seed" already out there.

I am not sure what we will decide to do. It concerns us how Jack has been having trouble coming out of the anesthesia. Our vet too said he seems to be having more trouble than most dogs do. She said she cut it in half this time and he still slept all evening and didn't eat last night or this morning. The life span of an Airedale is between 10 and 12 and that is if they have had good care their entire life which we know he has not had. I would rather have him whatever time he has left than have him die on the table or not be able to have any quality of life after surgery. He doesn't seem to be in pain, there is no more blood in his urine so I guess we will just have to wait and see what more we are told and what advice we are given.

So keep those prayers coming!!!!

[Pawsitive Thinking]

On their way

[Cinder & Smoke]

He doesn't seem to be in pain, there is no more blood in his urine ...

So keep those prayers coming!!!!

We've got things to be Thankful for already. ;)

Prayers will continue ... as well as Feel Better, Soon, Jack Wishes.

{{{Hugs}}} to ALL!

[ramanth]

Many more prayers and healing vibes sent for Jack. Give that boy a butt rub for me. :love:

[lizbud]

More waiting then.:( Still sending prayers for Jack & hoping for the best.
(((Hugs))) to the family too.

[4 Dog Mother]

The news is in and it is not good! :( :(:( I called my vets today - and surprise Dr. Freeman answered the phone - and to top that off, he said he had not seen anything come in but then fax machine started and here comes the report from the doctor who read the ultrasound - he said it is 3 pages long so he and Dr. James and Dr. Jones will talk but this is what he sees as to what is going to happen.

The mass is a tumor outside the kidney - most likely adenocarcinoma. With his age and the other things going against him (cysts on the other kidney), englarged prostate, we have only two options, do a treat-the-symptoms-as-they-come-up approach or remove the kidney & growth (after making sure the other kidney will support him). In this case he would also have to have chemo and/or radiation. There is a good chance he would even die on the table. So the vets will get together and let me know more of what to expect. It looks like even a biopsy will be ruled out unless we want to risk losing Jack as there are many things that could go wrong with were it is positioned and Jack's intolorance for sedation.

As of now I don't know if they will give me a time frame or not. But it looks like you all still get to keep praying.

[cyber-sibes]

:( Poor Jack. We'll be keeping up prayers for him, and for all of you.

[Cincy'sMom]

Even though I knew this was a good possibility it is still hard to accept. It just isn't fair, with all you and he have been through.

He certainly has a great life the past 5 years, after a rough start. Even you hadn't come into his lives, he wouldn't have had that time, or known such a sweet life. And I'm sure he will have more great times too.

Give him big hugs. We're still praying for him!!

[pitc9]

You bet we'll keep praying for him!

{{{HUGS}}} to you all!

[boomersooner]

I say my prayers every night for the people and the pets they love here on Pet Talk. Jack will get an extra special mention! Give him kisses from me.

[lizbud]

I am sorry about the bad news.:(

It is a lot to take in all at once. I hope Jack is able to spend many more
comfortable & happy days (years) with his loving family. I hope he can feel
pain free to enjoy his time on earth. (((Hugs))) Liz.

[Catty1]

Sweetie....it ain't over yet.

I don't know how they decide if the one kidney will support him or not. But perhaps getting the mass out and keeping him comfy on prednisone for a while might be an answer.

When you are able to catch your breath a bit, have a look at these pages - they are from the same site, but I am trying to keep it simple...I understand how overwhelmed you can be. In addition to the links - is there a homeopathic vet you can consult?

The animal info on these links is sometimes in the bottom half or so of the page. This is not medical advice....just look things over and see what you think...don't act in haste.

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/tf.htm

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/tf/s/pets.htm#testimonials

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/plankton-testimonials.htm#pets

{{{{hugs}}}} and HUGE prayers. :love: And head scrubbies to Jack!:)

[ChrisH]

Not good. :( Prayers & positive thoughts increased.

[Freedom]

Oh Dear, what a sad report. More prayers for all of you, and hugs as well.

[wolf_Q]

I haven't posted at PT lately but I've been checking this thread every day. I'm sorry to hear that the news wasn't too good. :( I'll be thinking of you and Jack and hoping for the best. I know whatever you do will be in Jack's best interest.

[captain]

I am so very, very sorry.
{{{hugs}}} and best wishes to you during your decision making time.
Jack is so very lucky to have found you. I wish him many more years with you, no matter what.

[chocolatepuppy]

More prayers for Jack and family.

[Pam]

(((((Hugs))))) to all of you and especially Jack. :(

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Oh no :(

[zippy-kat]

{{Still praying for you and your dear Jack.}}

[ramanth]

Still praying hard for Jack. *HUGS* :love:

[4 Dog Mother]

The three vets have talked and the conclusion is what I have already posted - to do anything else may cut down on whatever time he has left - and there is no saying how long this thing has been growing so he may live longer than we think. There is no way they can tell me what symptoms we might see since there are many that could show up. They do feel it is attached to the kidney and for him to even survive kidney surgery is a big if. He is by no means showing any signs of pain or illness as Kimmy can verify from the dog park visit. He seems to sleep a little more but don't we all when we get older.

I am content with this decision - I really feel he would not make it through any more aggressive treatments. He is such a sweet, quiet boy that I just want him to spend the rest of his time that way. He still likes to take walks, he still is eating and drinking well, he loves going to the dog park. Thanks again for all the prayers and assuredly we still need them. I am grateful to be a part of this board so I can get input and empathy when it is needed. PT rocks!

[lizbud]

I support your decision 200%. I am so glad you are a peace with the
decision. Big hugs to Jack & I'm hoping he surprises us all by enjoying his
life for a long, long time yet.:) The fact that he shows no other signs of
illness is a blessing.

[Cinder & Smoke]

GOOD Plan, Mom!!! ;)

We'll all keep sendin Purrayers, Krossin Pawz & Klawz, and just lettin
ole Jack know we sure do CARE about him! :love:

And we'll *sneek* in a few Purrayers fur you an Carl, to help keep your strength
and maintain everything on course. :love:

Hey Jack ~~~

Keep feelin Better, Bub!!
See ya over Labor Day, iffin not before! :love:

[Karen]

Thanks for keeping us updated. It sounds like absolutely the right decision. Give him another kiss on that curly noggin from me, okay?

[gini]

I am sure behind your decision too! Bless his heart - eating, drinking and loving his walks.

God works in strange ways - and with all of our prayers I hope that you have quality time with Jack for a long time to come.

Big hugs to you - and Carl too.:love::love:

[Ginger's Mom]

I trust you completely to make the right decisions for your pets. Prayers continuing.

[slick]

During the week I have "snuck a peek" here but didn't have the time to type a proper response.

First off, I'm so very sorry to hear the latest news. It so unfair that this should happen to such a sweet boy and to such a loving family. These decisions are never easy to make but I just have to say that I would do the same thing if I were in your shoes. If his quality is life is good, keep it that way. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease and it definitely shows in this case.

Bless his little heart and bless you guys for loving him so much and doing everything that caring "parents" would do.

Please give him a kiss from me.:love: I will continue my prayers.

[krazyaboutkatz]

I'm so sorry to hear about Jack's test results.:( I too think that you're making the right decision and I hope that he'll be able to remain comfortable in your home for a long time to come. Lots more prayers and positive thoughts are being sent his way. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

[Moesha]

Jack sure is a cutie! I hope that you and he both have many good days ahead of you!

[captain]

Diane,
Supported 110%!!!!

{{{hugs}}} to Jack
and of course to you :D

[Catty1]

{{{{hugs}}}} Absolutely the right decision.

As they said - who knows how long it has been growing anyway?

Wishing you many many more happy days with Jack! :D

[shais_mom]

We, as pet parents, know our animals the best. We know when they hurt, when they are happy, when they experience sadness. They in turn know us just as well. You know Jack the best, therefore you have HIS best interest at heart. You are much loved and supported in any decision you chose to make.
Much love and hugs and support sent your way in your time of need and ANY TIME!
Staci, Keegan, Kylie, Kloe.:love:

[ChrisH]

Supported 100%. That would be the decision I would make if it were my Bob, without doubt.

Prayers & positive thoughts continuing for you all. Please give Jack some hugs and kisses from me.

[anna_66]

I'm sitting here with tears in my eyes thinking of all the things Jack has went through, and now all this.
But I'm glad to know he's had so many wonderful years with you and Carl. He couldn't have asked for a better more loving home.

Lots more prayers being said that Jack has lots and lots of good days ahead of him.

(((HUGS)))
Anna

[cyber-sibes]

(((hugs))) W'e'll be keeping you & Jack in our prayers. I hope you have many more wonderful walks, trips to the dogpark, and good times together. No one knows how long any of us has, it's the quality of our days, not the number. :) Skritches to sweet Jack. :love:

[Cincy'sMom]

You know I support your decision completely. I think anything else is too risky for him and he deserves to enjoy his life whether it is 10 more months or 10 more years. Love and hugs to all of you.

[robinh]

I definitely support your position. I truly understand your situation.

My Carly has terminal cancer. She is doing well, but we know it's a matter of time. When she was diagnosed, they talked about doing surgery and a lot of chemo. The surgery sounded almost like gutting her and then they explained the side effects of the drugs. Dick and I talked at length about it and after reviewing what the doctors had told us, we believe that we will give her the best "rest of her life" that is possible. She's had a few set backs, but so far I'm pleased with our decision. In November, they gave her 4-6 months to live. This last week, she celebrated 7 months. Even the doctors are amazed.

Every day you have with your Jack is an absolute blessing. My thoughts and prayers are with Jack, you, and all of your family

[ramanth]

Sounds like a good plan! :) :love: Hugs for you and Jack!

[delidog]

Dearest Diane & Family....
I Knew about the Jack Situation.....But I Just Read the Entire Thread.....

Diana,You Know That You Have My Support!!!
You Are The Best Pet Mother!!!! And Surrogate Mother to Boot!!

My Heart Goes Out to Jack,You,Carl and your entire family
And if there is Anything that I can do Please Call!!!
Nicole
P.S.
Give that Big Beautiful Boy a Big Hug and a Kiss From Me!!
All His Beautiful Curly Hair and All!!!

[Logan]

Diana, I am behind on Pet Talk and just got caught up on Jack's situation. My prayers will be there, too, for you and Carl, and precious Jack. I think you are absolutely taking the right approach.

Logan

[Rachel]

I read you last couple posts and I think I have absorbed the situation as best I can. If Hannah or Tucker had the same diagnosis that Jack has, I do believe my course of action would be the same. Life is so short, yet he just may surprise us all with more left than we suspect. The real challenge will be not to melt into sobs when you look at him.

Enjoy every day, Good Boy Jack.

[k9krazee]

I just wanted to let you know that Jack, you and the family are in my thoughts and prayers everyday. ((hugs)))) :love:

[pitc9]

Sending more {{{hugs}}} and prayers your way!

[4 Dog Mother]

Jack continues to do fiine - he is showing no symptoms of anything bothering him. Which we are all glad of. He is just so sweet and loving. For some reason he seems to be getting more attached to me. Now he is the one to follow me around more. I went in the bedroom and locked the door to get away from the grandkids for a little while and who comes barking at my door - but Jack. He came in, came over for some ear rubs and then went to his bed and laid down. He is just a sweetie!

[Cinder & Smoke]

Jack continues to do fiine - he is showing no symptoms of anything bothering him.

... and who comes barking at my door - but Jack.
He came in, came over for some ear rubs and then went to his bed and laid down.
He is just a sweetie!

He knows you're *worrying* about him.

Enjoy every minute of his Feelin Good! (It's a Special Blessing)

{{{Hugs}}}

[Cataholic]

Life brings all kind of surprises. May Jack be one of them. Prayers to you guys.

[joycenalex]

i've been mostly off line for a couple of weeks, so i'm trying to catch up. gosh, this is sad to read about jack, but i'm really happy he's having good days, and knowing that the human mom is always gonna open the door to ear skritchies.

[k9krazee]

How's Jack man doing?
Still in my thoughts and prayers!

[4 Dog Mother]

Ashley, thanks for asking about Jack and continuing to pray for him. He is doing very well. His appetite is good, he still sleeps alot but he also lets Tucker know when he is being a pest. We took him to the dog park last Sunday about noon and although we were there only about an hour, he got overheated and had a hard time with his breathing when we got home. So I think hot day dog park trips are going to be a thing of the past for him. He didn't do any running - just his usual slow walk around the park sniffing everything along the way. The gasping for air was very scary. I should have called the vet to find out what they think but haven't.

I hope you are doing well up at the cabin. Is Jack back with you? I think it would be lonely and scary to be up there all by yourself.

[lizbud]

It's good to know that Jack is doing well now. That sun & heat is really
miserable to be out in for long. Even our breezes are hot air.:(

Take it easy Jack. Cooler weather is bound to come.:)

[delidog]

Diana & Family,
Jack is Still in Our Thoughts and Prayers....Sounds like Mid-Day Dog Park is too much...Maybe early in the morning or sunset....
I am Glad to See that Jack is Comfortable
Give Him a Treat for Us!!!!
Nicole & The Furids

[K9karen]

Praying that sweet, lovely, dear Jack enjoys painless, happy, peaceful times.
He doesn't deserve any more suffering.
Gentle kisses and ear scrunchies on the curly darling.

[joycenalex]

thinking about you all and ear skritchies for jack

[ramanth]

More hugs for Jack. :love:

[delidog]

Lots and Lots More Treats,Scritchies and HUGS For Our Dearest Jack!!!

Diana, And Family...We Are ALL HERE for You And Jack!!!
Just Let Us Know What You Need!!!
Nicole

[WELOVESPUPPIES]

I just wanted to let you know that I will keep praying for Jack...please give him lots of love from me.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Just checking in to see how dear Jack is doing

[4 Dog Mother]

Jack is doing great! He is still eating well, sleeping well and for the most part acting well. He does have a lot more trouble with the heat than he ever has before so we have to be careful how long he is outside but that is not really hard since he barks when he wants back in - it's just that sometimes my husband has selective hearing and if it isn't coming out of the TV or he has to move to take care of it, he doesn't hear anything.

It does seem sometimes even in the house, he is breathing harder - the vet says it is hard to know why - he could be feeling a little uncomfortable and that unless he is showing that he is pain there is little we can do. And it doesn't usually last for very long so who knows.

Since he has been eating better and since he had lost so much weight my husband has been feeding him a 3rd bowl of food at night. I have to wonder if this is a good idea because right now although the tumor seems to be pushing the colon over a little everything else seems okay. I am afraid if he puts on too much weight, it will make him uncomfortable and maybe more in pain. I hate it when dogs and kids are sick - they can't tell us what the matter is and it is hard to not know where it hurts!

Thanks for asking.

On a side note, Jack has always been a digger - he loves to dig a hole and then no matter how big or small he tries to lie in the cooler ground. Although sometimes I think he just digs to dig. He hasn't shown much interest in it this summer. I am working on a new "rock" garden and was moving some dirt around so I filled in one of his and his siblings bigger hole. Last night he was out by himself - meaning no other dogs - and I found him sniffing into the hole and starting to dig. He must be feeling a little better!:o

[Cinder & Smoke]

Jack is doing great! :)

I am working on a new "rock" garden and was moving some dirt around,
so I filled in one of his and his siblings bigger holes.
Last night he was out by himself - meaning no other dogs - and
I found him sniffing into the hole and starting to dig.

Darn it, Mom!
We just had dat Durt Den the rite size - and here ya go an fill it in on us! :(
Please garden wiff your Rocks, an leave our Durt alone!
/s/ Love,
Jack

[Grace]

Jack is doing great! He is still eating well, sleeping well and for the most part acting well. He does have a lot more trouble with the heat than he ever has before . . . . .



I can totally relate to this. The older I get, the less I tolerate heat.

Thanks for the update on Jack.

[pitc9]

Glad to hear he's eating well and I'd have to agree with you about not giving him the 3rd bowl of food for the exact reason you stated!

I'm also happy top hear that he was digging!
:D

[lizbud]

Glad to hear he's eating well and I'd have to agree with you about not giving him the 3rd bowl of food for the exact reason you stated!




I agree with you as well. (extra treats, maybe):)

I am glad Jack is enjoying his life.:)