disabled Tortie, Chicago [Archive]

moosmom

06-12-2008, 11:03 AM

We cannot care for her nor should we in those conditions

Then why the he#$ did she even bother getting a cat??? A commitment is a commitment, REGARDLESS. Just because she's not "catlike" doesn't mean she doesn't need love and caring.

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for this lady in Chicago. Would she leave her CHILD behind in these circumstances?? I didn't think so.

Poor cat.:(

TenHouseCats

06-12-2008, 01:42 PM

very few people EXPECT their lives to change, and to presume that there are never circumstances that require rehoming an animal is nothing but self-righteous drivel.

forget the issue of divorce, which has an element of choice. ANYONE can become disabled in an instant, and if you think that there's some great social system out there that's gonna take care of you when that happens, and pay all your bills the next day--if at all, if it's not a work-related accident--you are living in a fantasy land. have your heard about companies downsizing? do you really think that it can't happen to ANYONE'S family? do you think that foreclosure ONLY happens to people you might think are too stupid to read the fine print, or don't really deserve a house in the first place? what about when your house is lost in a natural disaster, and your insurance company says, "oops, well, we don't cover Acts of God?" and your loving extended family says, "sure you can move in, but leave your stinky husband and your animals someplace else." you think it doesn't happen?

this ranks right up there with those folks who say that no one on a fixed income, be it disability, social security, unemployment, have the right to have an animal, because if they're "that" poor, they won't provide good food or medical care. as we know, no one who lives in multi-million-dollar homes, or drives mercedes EVER abuse their kids or animals, or incest their daughters, or made their money by stealing from the very poor you're talking about.

a raw nerve struck? damned right.

WE HAVE A CAT THAT NEEDS A HOME HERE, FOLKS. let's focus on her.

MC

Medusa

06-12-2008, 05:41 PM

Goodness, you sure have been coming up w/some real cases, have you, Critters? I feel so bad about this little one and I know I sound like a broken record saying that I can't financially swing any more cats. But I truly can't. I've got a real geriatric set here, Boo, Puddy, Pidge and Specs are all aging and have health issues to go w/that. My prayers are going up for this sweet tortie and I sure hope that she finds a permanent home ASAP.

moosmom

06-12-2008, 07:08 PM

THC,

You're right, the focus is the cat. But if people can't afford to feed the cat and afford the vet bills, they have no business owning them. I have 6 cats and they come first. PERIOD. I wish I could help. But I'm tapped out with 6 cats of my own and two foster kittens in my bathroom.

Kitty will be in my prayers.

critters

06-13-2008, 07:06 AM

Goodness, you sure have been coming up w/some real cases, have you, Critters? So very true, but look at the ones who've gotten happy outcomes, the newest of whom is Honey!! :love:

There is also an update for this little girl, extending more time, so there's hope for her, too.

Medusa

06-13-2008, 07:30 AM

Well, you're doing a wonderful job and are to be commended for your tireless efforts. I'm proud to "know" you. :)

critters

06-15-2008, 06:05 AM

BIG update!!! http://handicappedpet.net/helppets/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=11571#unread

PS--Thanks Medusa! I missed your reply. :o

janesfosterkitties

06-23-2008, 02:30 PM

I just want everybody here to know that my mom and I drove from mid-Michigan to South Bend, Indiana yesterday to meet Mila and her mom. And I can tell just by the few minutes I spent with her, that Rebecca LOVES this kitty and only wants what is best for her. I know it was difficult for her to part with her baby.

Mila had an incredibly stressful day yesterday, traveling from Chicago, getting caught in traffic, being given to a total stranger, then enduring another long ride from Indiana to Michigan, and getting caught up in yet another traffic jam. Despite all of the stress, she allowed me to hold her and pet her last night, and listened as I told her she has done NOTHING wrong. She is a sweet cat who is well worth the saving and was well worth the trip to meet her and Rebecca.

Mila will need to be seen by a vet to determine exactly what is going on with her. She does fall over alot, and does not have full use of her back legs. She has a great appetite and has been using her box since arriving here, having only one small accident on her blanket.

I'll be working some OT so I can hlep pay the vet bill when she needs to be seen. I will be posting her on my website and asking for donations as well. Anything to help this special girl along will be greatly appreciated-even blankets, toys, canned food, and a supply of her favorite dry food-Purina Naturals-will be greatly appreciated and accepted.

I plan to get her posted on my website soon-if anybody would like to read about her, my website address is: www.jjs.petfinder.org

Jane

janesfosterkitties

06-23-2008, 02:40 PM

ONE MORE THING...

Mila will be moving on to her foster home in Ann Arbor once we can come up with a date that works for both Pat and I. I will keep her posted on my website for as long as Pat wishes and until we get enough donations for her care.

Thanks, Pat, for your willingness to take this special girl into your home. I can guarantee you that she is well worth saving!

Jane

critters

06-24-2008, 09:35 AM

That's GREAT to read! THANKS!!!!

lvpets2002

06-24-2008, 10:03 AM

:love: Oh Hurray for Pat to be able to get Mila.. Pat I am hoping you will keep this baby furrever.. I will tell the gang to be getting a Welcome package together for wittle Mila & of course for Taccoa's Darling Elmer..

phesina

06-25-2008, 05:49 PM

I just now found out that this thread is about Mila! And I'm in contact with Jane, and we will soon figure out when Mila is coming to Ann Arbor. She's gonna be a Wolverine! (Go Blue!)

And I want to repeat Mary (Medusa)'s sentiment about critters. God bless you, Lee!

Pat

janesfosterkitties

06-26-2008, 05:39 PM

Well, there seems to me some major confusion regarding Mila and her placement. I agreed to drive over 700 miles to retrieve this kitty and bring her back to Michigan, and had said I would be working some OT to "help" cover some of her vet bills, but now the expectation is that I take her to the vet and pay for the vet bill altogether, with her foster mom "chipping in". This is all thanks to somebody, who shall remain nameless, on the handicappedpets.com group, that told Pat, Milas prospective foster mom, that "we" would be taking Mila to an internal medicine vet for work-up. WE WHO??? This person seems to think she can offer my services and my money without even asking. It seems that this person was more than a little confused-I agreed to pick Mila up-PERIOD! And although I dont mind helping with the vet bill, I cannot foot the bill alone.

I am tired of trying over and over again to help, and getting screwed over in the longrun.

phesina

06-26-2008, 08:34 PM

Jane, I probably misunderstood about vet care for Mila. If so, I'm sorry if I said anything that sounded like I expected you were going to take care of that. Please do not feel you are expected to do so. Just your going all the way to Chicago to get her and bring her back has already been a massive contribution to her safety and well-being.

Let's arrange a time and place for me to collect Mila from you very soon. I'm so much looking forward to meeting her!

Pat

janesfosterkitties

06-30-2008, 08:45 AM

Just wanted to post an update on Mila. I have kept in close contact with Mila's mom, Beka, over the past week and have been giving her daily updates on how Mila is doing.

Mila has fallen head over heels for a CH kitty who is in my care. They have become the best of buddies and they eat and sleep together. Mila had an episode the other day that appeared to be a seizure. She spent about 1/2 day sleeping after the episode, then was back to her normal self. Beka had mentioned that Mila had these seizure-like episodes before, so I just monitored her afterwards, and she recovered without any problems.

Beka and I have discussed Mila's future, and have decided that Mila will be staying with me. Another move would not be good for her, and like I said, she has fallen in absolute LOVE with my CH kitty, and they have become fast friends, and it would be hard to separate them at this point.

Mila will receive the best vet care possible-I have had a vet offer free lifetime vet care for her. I told him about her story and he said he would be more than happy to provide her care free of charge.

Beka-Thank you for allowing me to care for your baby. She is one special girl!

Jane

Medusa

06-30-2008, 08:55 AM

Free lifetime vet care? That's one special vet there! I'm so glad that things are working out and now to know that Mila will get such good, regular care just puts the cherry on top. Great news! :)

janesfosterkitties

06-30-2008, 09:07 AM

YES, free vet care! I told my vet her story, and how I had driven to South Bend to meet Mila and her mom, and how her disabilities were caused by oxygen deprivation during surgery, and he said he would provide vet care free of charge. I am taking her in this week-she does fall over alot and I want him to look at her and see if he thinks there is some physical therapy I can do to help her. I think alot of her problem is permanent and not really treatable, as its pretty clear from her vet records what happened-she was oxygen deprived during surgery. But if I can help control some of her symptoms, she can maybe be a little more steady on her feet. I am using a shallow disposable baking pan as her litterbox, and she has had ONE accident since Friday. Thats THREE DAYS-when she was having them several times a day. I am using those puppy training pads in front of the box, so if she does go outside the box, its an easy clean-up.

Medusa

06-30-2008, 09:44 AM

That is absolutely wonderful! She's a little trooper, eh? I'm sure that' we're going to be reading better and better reports each time you post. :)

critters

06-30-2008, 10:08 AM

Umm, what about phesina?? She is, and has been, waiting for Mila.

phesina

06-30-2008, 05:20 PM

This is the first I've heard about this change in plans.

Medusa

06-30-2008, 05:41 PM

Oh boy, I just read over this thread again and now I see that there's a discrepancy. I sure hope this works out to everyone's satisfaction so that Mila gets a good permanent home. I do know that she couldn't do any better than w/you, Phesina. (Pat)

janesfosterkitties

06-30-2008, 07:47 PM

Karen

06-30-2008, 08:37 PM

It sounds as though Mila has unintentionally found herself a permanent home with you. Funny how things work out, isn't it?

It is too bad there seem to have been some communication snafus, but hopefully Mila will be okay, and everyone can be content with that. No need to "remove" you, Jane, you are welcome here.

Medusa

06-30-2008, 09:08 PM

First of all, there was a discrepancy from the beginning-I think everybody knows what I am talking about. If you don't go back ad read the entire thread. I simply agreed to pick the cat up and transport her, then hold her for a short period-thats all! But since she has been here, she has become close to another one of my kitties, and has settled in nicely. She is comfortable and happy, and Beka is thrilled that she is staying. I found a vet, a wonderful vet, in fact, on of the best in the entire state of Michigan, to provide lifetime vet care for her, and when I posted, you said "wonderful" then you said she couldnt do any better than with Pat. Which is it?? Maybe pat or somebody else could have driven down and picked Mila up??

Mila is happy here and THAT is what matters. She has irreversible brain damage and disabilities, and has made friends with another cat here who has similar disabilities. Sheouldnt her happiness be the first priority??

You can remove me from this group.

What I meant was is that either way it's wonderful for Mila. I've come to know Pat (Phesina) and Mila would have a good home w/her. I don't know you but it seemed as though things were working out well for Mila, especially when you found a vet to give her free lifetime care. Don't involve me in this. I was merely trying to encourage both of you and give you the kudos that I felt you both deserved, that's all. No offense was meant to either of you.

janesfosterkitties

07-01-2008, 06:09 AM

I just want everybody to know how happy Mila is here. She LOVES my other disabled kitty, who has CH. He has never really had a real friend here, and he has fallen in love with her! I've been updating Milas mom on an almost daily basis, and she is thrilled that Mila is doing so well. I have made some modifications in the house to make it easier for Mila, and she now meows and "talks" to me when I walk by the screen door to "her" room. Well, she shares it with her new friend, but she still thinks its hers.

Mila is happy and content, and thats all that matters here. She has a wonderful who is willing to look after her, and she is a joy to have here.

jennielynn1970

07-01-2008, 06:43 AM

Hope things work out for the best for Mila.

Seems to have been a bit of drama in this thread... :rolleyes: geez. I know everyone was just trying to be supportive and hope for the best for Pat and Mila.

As long as Mila is well taken care of and is getting the best possible care, free or not, I hope it all works out for the best. :)

moosmom

07-01-2008, 09:00 AM

Although I commend her for transporting the kitty out of the goodness of her hear, I'm reserving my opinion for six months down the road, or whenever her OTHER cats need help and she can't afford it.

She always seemed to be griping about vet bills costs and how she couldn't afford it. But now that a vet has offered lifetime vet service, she's going to keep her???

Phesina,

I'm so sorry about this whole thing. I know you had your heart set on adopting Mila. I've fallen in love with many of my fosters. However, I know when to say enough. If I cannot afford their vet care, I have no business adopting any more. And communication is the key in every relationship, either in person, by phone or via the internet. Which is what Janesfosterkitties failed to do.

Have a wonderful life Mila!!

janesfosterkitties

07-01-2008, 09:13 AM

Well, I dont believe I ever said I couldnt afford the vet bills. I just resented that somebody had told Pat I was going to take her to the vet before turning her over. I NEVER said I couldnt afford it-read the thread again.

I can afford the vet care-I didnt ASK for free vet care. The vet heard her story and wanted to help, thats all.

Mila is happy and thats ALL that matters.

moosmom

07-01-2008, 09:17 AM

Mila is happy and thats ALL that matters

I absolutely agree with you. However, letting Pat know ahead of time rather than having her read it here is a little inconsiderate, don't ya think??

From Pat:
This is the first I've heard about this change in plans.

janesfosterkitties

07-01-2008, 09:45 AM

I DID e-mail Pat, once before I talked to Beka about Mila staying here, and once after. Its not my fault if the e-maila are out there floating around cyber space.

And to respond to the private message in my mailbox, BEKA AND I decided Mila would stay here WAY before any offers for free vet care came along. That wasnt a condition of her staying vs. not staying. The vet was just being generous when he offered the vet care. He also offered it for a blind kitty I have. He is just very compassionate, and has been my vet for over 12 years.

So, just to put everybodys minds at ease, please know I am not keeping her simply because her vet care is donated. She is well adjusted here and another move may actually harm her.

Catty1

07-01-2008, 11:01 AM

I'm so glad Mila has a furrever home - and that your CH kitty has a friend at last! That will do both of them so much good!

I hope when she gets settled you might post a pic or two and an update in Cat General? ;)

Give both kitties a hug for me.:love:

GabrielDeafBlindPupFamily

07-01-2008, 06:57 PM

I run a rescue and railroad.
We had a person adopt a transport outside of our own perview. She then EUTHD A DOG WHO did not get along with the handicapped newcomer.

To not deliver to the next person in the train is tantamount to theft.

I have fallen in love w/so many I foster and transport. My most memorable was a foster whose adoptive family told me the dress I put her in was almost a deal-braker. Told them I got a ton of dresses! And she was to come to me if their situation didn't work out.

WE ARE GIVING FOSTER AND RESCUE A HUGE BLACK EYE IF WE ARE UNRELIABLE.

If someone took an animal I rescued and was sending to furrever, you can bet I would be on your doorstep with a subpeona.

Rescue animals are in the amount of THOUSANDS daily. We cannot possibly check and divert. There are too many others who will die because of our inattention.

Jane, what you do saves lives every single day.
This however is not your decision to make.
Oh, but I would remove your name from my email list and caution the railroads.

DNR is an ugly thing and if I live to be one hundred, I pray I am NEVER a DNR.

Thank you for all that you do and leave furrevers to the rescuers.

The passion in this endeavor getting an animal to their SCHEDULED rescue trumps even the next breath you take. You must not realize this. It is EVERYTHING.

If I want to 'keep a dog' on the railroads, I will undergo every single criteria required, and I am here to tell you, there are HVs, refs, vet checks and the like. NILF.

Dont be a statistic, don't be a case study in how things can go wrong. Do the right thing.

phesina

07-01-2008, 08:45 PM

I DID e-mail Pat, once before I talked to Beka about Mila staying here, and once after. Its not my fault if the e-maila are out there floating around cyber space.

Jane, I never got either of those e-mails. I got one just before you went to get her and then a couple more right after she arrived telling me how sweet she is and how she was doing after the long trip. Then there were a couple of others about the vet care matter. None of these said anything about you talking with Beka about Mila staying with you.

Well, I dont believe I ever said I couldnt afford the vet bills. I just resented that somebody had told Pat I was going to take her to the vet before turning her over. I NEVER said I couldnt afford it-read the thread again.

Nobody told me you were going to take her to the vet. I just remembered seeing something about a vet consult for her, and I thought perhaps you OR WHOEVER ELSE lived around Lansing might be involved in arranging that since it's so close to MSU. That was why I asked you about it. I did NOT intend to imply that I expected you to take care of it and pay for it, which I've told you in messages in this forum thread and in PMs and e-mails after I realized my misunderstanding.

Mila is happy and thats ALL that matters.

That is ALL that matters as far as I am concerned also. More than anything else, I want WHAT IS BEST FOR MILA to be done.

Pat

Medusa

07-01-2008, 09:02 PM

Jane, I never got either of those e-mails. I got one just before you went to get her and then a couple more right after she arrived telling me how sweet she is and how she was doing after the long trip. Then there were a couple of others about the vet care matter. None of these said anything about you talking with Beka about Mila staying with you.

Nobody told me you were going to take her to the vet. I just remembered seeing something about a vet consult for her, and I thought perhaps you OR WHOEVER ELSE lived around Lansing might be involved in arranging that since it's so close to MSU. That was why I asked you about it. I did NOT intend to imply that I expected you to take care of it and pay for it, which I've told you in messages in this forum thread and in PMs and e-mails after I realized my misunderstanding.

That is ALL that matters as far as I am concerned also. More than anything else, I want WHAT IS BEST FOR MILA to be done.

Pat

Mila's happiness and wellbeing is the most important thing but it isn't all that matters. When it comes to rescue and transport, several people are involved and need to be kept in the loop and informed at all times as to what is happening and if there is a change in the plans, everyone needs to know and a confirmation needs to be made before the next step is taken so that there are no misunderstandings. This is precisely why I stopped w/transport because just such misunderstandings would occur and then hurt feelings were the result. Pat, you made a most generous offer and, if you weren't properly informed and aware at all times as to what was happening, then you should be held blameless in all this. To say that all that matters is Mila's happiness is again generous on your part but arrogant and inconsiderate if anyone else should say so, IMO.

lvpets2002

07-02-2008, 09:52 AM

Mila's happiness and wellbeing is the most important thing but it isn't all that matters. When it comes to rescue and transport, several people are involved and need to be kept in the loop and informed at all times as to what is happening and if there is a change in the plans, everyone needs to know and a confirmation needs to be made before the next step is taken so that there are no misunderstandings. This is precisely why I stopped w/transport because just such misunderstandings would occur and then hurt feelings were the result. Pat, you made a most generous offer and, if you weren't properly informed and aware at all times as to what was happening, then you should be held blameless in all this. To say that all that matters is Mila's happiness is again generous on your part but arrogant and inconsiderate if anyone else should say so, IMO.
:o Thank You Mary && you took the words right out of my mouth.. This is not the first one that has been botch & feelings hurt thru this other web-site.. Pat I am so so sorry that it did not work out.. Hey I am still going to send you all a Big Cheer Up Smile Box of Goodies from Taccoa to Elmer & the gang.. Now Lets All Smile & Be Ready For the Holiday.. :):)

phesina

07-03-2008, 07:10 PM

Helene, I do want to let you know that it looks like Bob, the CH kitty, will be moving soon from Grand Rapids to Ann Arbor!

Now Elmer will have someone to exchange notes with!

GabrielDeafBlindPupFamily

07-11-2008, 08:10 PM

I belong to most national railroads, I belong to special needs cats & dogs railroads, and my own personal cause is the lethal white australian shepherd. Those needs are peculiar to the genetic defects, and I can tell you, our screening is very strict.

To say you will be a part of a rescue and then keep an animal going to furrever is beyond belief.

Those of us who are so specific in our defect adoptions would never tolerate unreliableness.

I am being asked at this moment what do do and how to caution on a transport.

My reply:

We are now all unreliable. Thousands upon thousands of drivers have suddently become not just unreliable, but potential 'enemies'. The repercussions are huge and I am just sick about this turn of events.

The rescue railroads were borne of the internet. Hitherto, thousands upon thousands of now rescuable critters were destroyed because the railroads cannot exist by snail mail. My mailbox is full daily of special needs rescues and transports.

If ANYone questions my reliability because of this, you can better bet I will be naming names, issues, corridors and the like.

I have been asked to cross the newest 'adopter' to the DNR and DNA lists. Won't do it, not my issues, I have no standing. But folks MUST realize the repurcussions. Huge and will cost lives.

Catty1

07-11-2008, 08:19 PM

I'm sorry for my genuine ignorance...but is it because of what happened with this one cat that thousands and thousands of drivers are "unreliable and potential enemies"?

What does "keep an animal going to furrever" mean?

I am not involved in rescue - please don't think I am being an idiot. I am genuinely uneducated in these matters.

Maybe a separate educational thread would be a good idea for those of us who might unwittingly do something harmful if faced with even a one-time rescue.

Thanks.

phesina

07-12-2008, 12:42 PM

I am still ready to welcome Mila here.

Catty1

07-12-2008, 05:54 PM

I have received a little more info.

If I read this right, Jane - by keeping one cat instead of forwarding it to the proper person - has jeopardized the rescue and safety of many many others.

If so, NICE going, Jane (NOT).

Perhaps, Jane, in your defense, you could forward those previous emails to Pat - they would still have the date on them. They'd be in your sent folder, right?

Oh, of course, you DELETE your sent folder every day (yes, I am being sarcastic).

End of rant.

lvpets2002

07-13-2008, 09:27 AM

I am still ready to welcome Mila here.

:) I know you are Pat.. Your so so Sweet && always with Open Arms & have a Heart of Gold.. But like others have said Jane & another member of the other web site have pretty much ruined the trust we could have ever had for rescues.. Its called by nicley saying "Selective Hearing".. Bigg Huggss Pat..