my vent on designer dogs

[lute]

All this talk of designer dogs, rare hybrids, etc. Never good ol fashion mutt, mixed breed, cross breed. Things these dogs all really are. Nothing specail about them. I am a proud owner of a Rhodesian Ridgeback/ Lab cross. I have NEVER called her any sort of "special" hybrid or designer anything. She is my sweet lovable good ol fashion mutt. Probably one of the best dogs I have ever had in my possesion. And most of you know I have come in contact with LOTS o puppers! Mostly purebreds. I don't ean to be rude in any way shape or form, but I'm at my wits end when it comes to all this "fancy mutt" talk. I work at a vet clinic where we get all these new puppies that people paid bookooloads of money for just because they are "designer" or "rare". Some owners actually get upset when I label their dog as "Mixed Breed" I can't tell you how many times I have heard "This is NOT a mixed breed! My lil Prissy Pants McGee is a Schnoodle, pekepoo, schnorkie, beagador, basset-poo, goldendoodle, mateschnoo, american hairless-poo, and whatever else some scammer that accidently got their dog pregnant by another breed pulls ou their butt to make money off a mutt.

Guess what! I bet ya money I could find ANY mix you have on death row in a shelter for far less then what you paid for your new puppy! When are people gonna learn...IT'S A MUTT!!!!!

[buttercup132]

I find it halarious when people are actually stupid enough to be convinced that their mutt is a purebred. I think everyone on here is with you on what your saying.
We have so many stupid mixes come in and the names, oh my they are the worst. Who comes up with these names?!
I love writting down that all these "poo" dogs are mix breeds.

[moosmom]

AMEN Lute!!!!!

[Pawsitive Thinking]

My lil Prissy Pants McGee is a Schnoodle, pekepoo, schnorkie, beagador, basset-poo, goldendoodle, mateschnoo, american hairless-poo

This made me spit my tea out :D but I agree 100% with all you said! Often asked what Archie is so I just say "he's an Archie - part clown, part dustbin"

[pitc9]

I have to add a story that fits here in this thread.

A about a year ago a co-worker and his girlfriend were ready to get a dog so he came to me because he knew I was all about rescue and adopting. Turned out that his girlfriend was dead set on a Puggle. :mad:
So I found a few in rescues and other Beagle/Pug mixes in shelters etc.
He started complaining about the adopting process and "Why do I have to be approved by the rescue before adopting blah.. blah.. this is going to take to long." I kept telling him to be patient and begging him not to go to a pet store. I even started sending him links to pictures from puppy mills and showed him pictures of how they are shipped in the back of trucks and some die while being shipped.
Suddenly he stopped talking to me about it. I thought he had finally realized that he just needs to be patient. The truth was that he and his girlfriend went to a pet store "Just to look" and they saw a Puggle and bought it. :mad: :(
He was afraid to tell me because he knew how mad I would be.
He had the dog for almost a WEEK before I found out. (through another co-worker)
THENNNNNN
Just about 2 months ago the same guy said he wanted to get a boxer and again, came to me. I found boxer puppies that were up for adoption, he was happy, I was happy.... then... just like the last time. I found out 4 days after that he bought a puppy from a breeder.

The bottom line...
Some people will NEVER get it, they are closed minded and will never change. :(

[pitc9]

OMG!!
Not only mixing 2 breeds... look at this!!
http://www.breederinfocenter.com/index.php?a_id=20061024023508

Dakota Sheepdogs are a new breed that is bred from English Shepherds, Australian Shepherds, Cocker Spaniels, and Poodles. The intention is to breed a perfect family dog! Being very smart, easy to train, gentle, loving, faithful, not at all shy or hyper, but having a nice, medium temperment. Fun, as far as playing ball with the kids, but also low to no shedding

OMG! Give me a FLIPPING Break already you BRAINLESS people that call yourself "breeders"!!!!!
Get a life and stop the madness!!!!

[buttercup132]

OMG!!
Not only mixing 2 breeds... look at this!!
http://www.breederinfocenter.com/index.php?a_id=20061024023508

Dakota Sheepdogs are a new breed that is bred from English Shepherds, Australian Shepherds, Cocker Spaniels, and Poodles. The intention is to breed a perfect family dog! Being very smart, easy to train, gentle, loving, faithful, not at all shy or hyper, but having a nice, medium temperment. Fun, as far as playing ball with the kids, but also low to no shedding

OMG! Give me a FLIPPING Break already you BRAINLESS people that call yourself "breeders"!!!!!
Get a life and stop the madness!!!!Wtf..pretty speachless.
People are soo soo dumb.

[*LabLoverKEB*]

UGHHHHH! Don't EVEN get me started.... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Giselle]

Ivy is a rare miniature Dobrador Pintriever.

Very few exist in the world. Maybe I should breed her...

:rolleyes:

[cali]

could not agree more! its gotten to the point that I am afraid to tell people what mix exactly my mutts are lest they go "oh I liked that mix" and try to breed some of their own, now instead of specifying that Ripley is a Schipperkie/Bosten Terrier, when people ask I just ay "he's a mix" , same goes for Rusty.

[Seravieve]

Wooo wooo.. Love this post! I think these people are nuts that spend all that money on a mixed breed. I always stop by the pet store in our local mall. I just walk through to see the new breeds.. lol. I just shake my head and feel so sorry for these little puppy-mill doggies..

So sad... J wanted a puggle for a while.. store wanted $500 for her. WOOF. Needless to say, she came to her senses and we now have 3 rescues.. :D

[Karen]

I am all in favor of volunteering my creative services to shelters and coming up with "designer" names for mixed breed dogs if it would help more lovable mixes get homes.

Humans sure are silly critters. Gullible, too.

[bckrazy]

"The intention is to breed a perfect family dog!"

I hate to break it to those highly respectable Dakota Sheepdog breeders... but, such a dog has already been discovered. His name is Fozzie, and he's a Corglesky. : D Oh, and he didn't quite cost $1200! (WTMFFF)... Since when is a "perfect family dog" the same dog, for all families? Since when was every family completely uniform? The reason we have created different breeds is to fit different needs... there are hundreds of pure breeds for a family to pick from... why would everyone want the same dog, when just as dog's personalities differ, individuals also differ?

It disgusts me that "designer dogs" have become widely accepted, cherished, and desired over our plain old "mutts". Alongside the breed calendars, I see Schnoodle, Cockapoo, Labradoodle, Doodlespork, Crapadoodle, etc, etc, calendars. It's as if people feel that their designer dogs are more important than our mutts... simply because they come with a silly name and they paid $1000's more for them! If anything, I would horribly embarassed to have paid an anstronomical price for a DD, when a "plain old mutt" is free or for a small adoption fee... AND I would be horribly embarassed to call my dog one of those ridiculous "breed" names. It all just makes them look stupid, to be honest.

[Alysser]

I went on petfinder and found a "schnoodle" in my local shelter who is pregnant. :rolleyes: It just proves you can go to your local shelter and get a MUTT for an actually DECENT price. They really are taking away from other breeds :(

[loveallfurryfriends]

There are absolutely no designer dogs in my house! My husband and I are getting ready to go to the pound to find our newest family member. That is where the best dogs in world are!!! My husband wanted to buy a purebred, and I adamantly refused. He knew how passionate I was about rescuing, and has now seen the light!!! his thinking has changed so much, that when a co-worker asked what kind of dog we were buying, he said---- We are not buying, we're going to save one from the pound!! The funniest thing is that everyone thinks that Smokey is some sort of maltipoo, but we always tell people, he's just a lovable mutt!! I wouldn't have it any other way :) :)

[buttercup132]

Alongside the breed calendars, I see Schnoodle, Cockapoo, Labradoodle, Doodlespork, Crapadoodle, etc, etc, calendars. Ugh I hate that too. At the Pet Smart here they have actual "breed" books on Cockapoos and Schnoodles and some other stupid designer mutt.


I went on petfinder and found a "schnoodle" in my local shelter who is pregnant. That's so sad :( I see so many pugxbeagles in the shelter that are just puppies too. You should post a ad on craiglist or something linking to that petfinder.

There are alot fo ingrorant people out there who think shelter dogs are dirty, full of diseases and not friendly so they go out and get dogs from "breeders". My mom is kinda like that even though almost all our cats are rescues.

[lorn]

OI Miss Ali, I am not like that..... I WAS like that until u lectured me about it so much..... Yes I admit one of our cats (baby cat) was from pet store) but and a big BUT, she too needed a home and could have ended up being bought on a whim and ended up in a shelter......
I understand your point on the puppy mills etc and how buying from a pet store is supporting them. And I try and avoid pet stores now that have animals. But i also believe you are still saving them if they are in there.
I just feel sorry for the poor things.
Its awful seeing them laying in stupid window cages with poopy and peed on blankets. U just wanna save them all. Awwwwww!
I dont know how and why they keep adding these New stupid breeds.....
Why cant they just stick to the breeds we have already? The real original ones.... grrrrrrr!!!!!!!
I am Ali's Mum by the way..... :)

[Giselle]

Buying a pet from a pet store is "saving" one life and condemning another litter to the same horrible conditions.

Supply and demand. If you buy a pet from the pet store, they will restock that puppy or kitty. They don't care if you call it "saving a life". They call it "production levels".

No demand = no supply. If we never buy a puppy or kitten, they will stop stocking animals at pet stores.

[elizabethann]

Very well said posts.

So what would Fenway be?

He's Border Terrier, Boxer, Pit Bull (seriously), Lapsa Apso, Schnauzer, and God knows what else.

He is a Borex Pitsozer. :D :D :D :D :D :D ;)

Nah....he's a mutt and he's very proud of it and so isn't his Mommy. :)

[smokey the elder]

Last year I took our company's incentive program (you get points to spend at vendors or in a catalog) to task for selling "yorkie poos". I got some unsatisfactory verbage from corporate, and decided not to use the catalog to buy stuff, and use the points to buy gift cards to donate at our penny social!

The thing that really ground my gears is their reference to the prizes as trophies, at which I admonished them against considering any living thing a "trophy". They had no response to that.

[shepgirl]

[QUOTE=Giselle]Buying a pet from a pet store is "saving" one life and condemning another litter to the same horrible conditions.

I don't approve of mills or pet stores either. But what about the BYB who slap 2 purebred dogs together for the sake of $$$ ? Is that so different if people buy from them? By buying these unproven pups, we are also condemning the bitches to another pregnancy......and condemning that pup to a shelter when it becomes clear the dog has issues.

[Giselle]

[QUOTE=Giselle]Buying a pet from a pet store is "saving" one life and condemning another litter to the same horrible conditions.

I don't approve of mills or pet stores either. But what about the BYB who slap 2 purebred dogs together for the sake of $$$ ? Is that so different if people buy from them? By buying these unproven pups, we are also condemning the bitches to another pregnancy......and condemning that pup to a shelter when it becomes clear the dog has issues.
We (well, most of us) stand against any and every BYB. I hold no distinction between a BYB who breeds purebreds or a BYB who breeds mixes or a pet store that sells puppy mill puppies. They're all BYBs and they're all bad.

[pitc9]

We (well, most of us) stand against any and every BYB. I hold no distinction between a BYB who breeds purebreds or a BYB who breeds mixes or a pet store that sells puppy mill puppies. They're all BYBs and they're all bad.

100% agree!!!

[buttercup132]

Another thing I find about BYB breeders (aka designer breeders) they are all very stuck up and rude unless you want a puppy. They are all like trailer trash.

I have e mailed some as polite as I can be saying pleas eget your dog fixed or ask them questions and they are always like oh f*ck off get a life, sccompanied by more swearing and being rude.

[Suki Wingy]

I emailed the insane guy who breeds "m!ni d.als" and his email reply was more swears than answers.

[racegirl1]

Pay attention all you dummies who think you must have a labradoodle or puggle or whatever...

1. anyone can make up a fancy name for a cross breed dog, but it will remain a cross breed
2. no cross breed can be guaranteed to be allergy free
3. breeding a cross breed to a crossbreed does not produce a better dog
4. just because a dog is a cross bred animal, does not mean it is a healthier animal
5. there is no such thing as "hybrid vigour"
6. within the next 20 years, there will be no cross breds recognized by any of the major canine organizations in any country.
7. F2, F3, F4 generations tend to have considerably more variation than F1
8. the people show their dogs to prove several desirable characteristics. Cross bred dogs can not be shown.
9. all health problems will be found in all cross breeds - just like they will be found in all pure breds
10. temperament is not the only characteristic that should be bred for. Just like every dog should be bred to have a head and four legs, they should also be bred to have a good temperament. This is a fundamental requirement. It is a complete myth that cross breds have better temperament
11. most groomers, vets, dog trainers, and behaviourists have very few good things to say about cross breds

[Sighthounds4me]

I just want to add, for those "breeders" of the "perfect family dog," there is no such thing as "the perfect family dog." No one breed (or mix) can possibly be perfect for everyone! That's all there is to it...

[Tora Oni]

I completly agree, all these designer breeds are just mutts, when you look at it. My cousin her parents didn't like our dog to be in their house, I think it might have been their cats intial reaction. My dog was scared stiff from the cat. Now they have three dogs running through the house all barking mad when ever anybody visit except little Kiki, the toy yorkie. Now the owner of the yorkie is another cousin as well but I think she trains it and socializes it, she does a pretty good job. As for Thor, the puggle and Hershey, the chocolate lab they are both obnoxious and difficult. Hersheys over weight and spoiled to death. I think both of the bigger dogs need some training, it ridiculous I had my dog, Clifford trained (he was Chespeake bay/lab mix) we adopted him from a free to a good home since the lady was moving to and apartment that didn't allow pets. My dog never jumped, barked and did what you told him rather bark and jump at you. Thor is as big as a beagle even though they said he wouldn't get that big, I just rolled my eyes at that, can't make perdictions on mutts.

[Vesta]

Yeah, I tend to roll my eyes when people call their dogs by designer names. A mutt's a mutt, no matter what breed it is. :p To each their own, I guess. I just smile when people call my dog a Schnoodle or whatever. I have a schnauzer/poodle mix and she is the sweetest little thing in the world. She and my cat, Clancy, are the best of buddies. :)

Why anyone would put these two in the shelter, I don't know.

Gracie (http://sweetjex.angelfire.com/pets/index.album/cutie?i=0&s=1)


Clancy (http://sweetjex.angelfire.com/pets/index.album/raspberry?i=2&s=1)


Clancy & Gracie (http://sweetjex.angelfire.com/pets/index.album/kiss?i=1&s=1)

[lute]

I just have to add that we have a ton of puggles come into the clinic where I work. All the girls I work with, plus me can't stand these dogs. I have yet to see one well behaved, non-yappy, non mess making puggle. I don't know if these owners just don't train their dogs or if this mix in general is a hyper messy gross mix.

[Reachoutrescue]

I actually just read this post. It sickens me how people can breed these wonderful pure bred dogs and create a mutt....yet call it a designer dog! We rescued a "Goldendoodle" about 2 yrs ago...nothing but health issues. She did find a great home, but she still has some small health issues, the vets says "due to improper breeding". DUH!! I was at an adoption event and an older man had a really cute puppy. I asked if he was just a plain old mutt, cuz that is what he looked like. He said, very firmly, "NO! he is a Labradoodle", I asked where he "adopted" him from. He said, "oh, I didn't adopt him, I bought him online and had him shipped to me"....Okay, hello???? What that man does not know is his sweet "Labradoodle" probably came from a back yard breeder, aka a PUPPY MILL!! He said he paid $1200 for him. Poor old man. I just said he was really cute and sweet and walked away. Later that day, I got an email about some "Labradoodles" being in a local kill pound....if that man would have just looked a little harder, he could have had the same MUTT for only $60 with vaccines and neutering. People just make me sick.

[Catlady711]

He said he paid $1200 for him. Later that day, I got an email about some "Labradoodles" being in a local kill pound....if that man would have just looked a little harder, he could have had the same MUTT for only $60 with vaccines and neutering.

Yes, but it's all in the advertising. Bill something up as 'rare' or do some fancy webpage with a bunch of bologna on it and wham you got yourself a money maker raking it in off of a bunch of uninformed buyers. Some people are easily swayed and if you use a bunch of big words and talk like you know what you are doing and throw in a few fake 'testimonials' it's $$$ city. Sad but true.

I think more people should reserch stuff before spending money, from pets to homes, to appliances etc. The problem is with the web allowing everyone to have any webpage saying whatever they want, the hard part is sorting out the sources of the information, which sadly many people do not do well. And some people breeding/selling these mutts are just as uniformed as their buyers are because they got suckered into thinking they had something special.

[Jessika]

I have a feeling I'm going to enjoy working at a clinic just to do that... hehe.. write down "poodle / cocker spaniel MIX" instead of "cockapoo". Because that is "technically correct" in "medical terms"... hehe.

[catfancier]

Bulldog / Shih-Tzu cross?

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Lol... if that ever happened, who would be proud to answer the question of 'What breed of dog is that?'

Doing a little further reading on the original website quoted, they make a relatively good point that 'Designer Dogs' differ from mutts in that their pedigrees can be traced. But that's about the only good reason I can see for a 'designer dog'.
My partner's parents bought a "spoodle" from (basically - though I will give her the benefit of the doubt) a BYB for an amount of money up to $1,500 (can't remember exactly what). She is now two years old, and goes absolutely mad over torch beams, laser lights and shadows, to a point where it becomes an obsession. She is as daft as a half-brained cockatiel (no offense cockie owners), has been through 2 rounds of puppy training yet is still as stubborn and disobedient as an untrained dog, and has even once bitten my partner's dad on the hand.
They absolutely adore her, and luckily they treat her with a firm hand. She has not bitten either of them since that one incident, but I don't fully trust her.
Her parents are a cavalier king charles spaniel/poodle cross and a purebred poodle.
Yeah, not the best example of a good family dog. Good on you for the vent!

[lute]

I have a feeling I'm going to enjoy working at a clinic just to do that... hehe.. write down "poodle / cocker spaniel MIX" instead of "cockapoo". Because that is "technically correct" in "medical terms"... hehe.
It's really kinda fun. :p When you get a new dog in the clinic and ask them their breed. Right in the middle of their rambling just say "Oh, it's a mix". They shut right up and automatically know you aren't interested in their high priced mutt.

When you get those PROUD designer dog owners they sit in the waiting area and go on and on...and on about just how great this dog is not they have "crossed" these breeds together. If we're not real busy I always put in my two sence. If someone has a Labradoodle and talks about how they don't shed I always mention the time the petstore I worked for got a litter of Labradoodles in. Those puppies shed worse than any puppy there. They had that nasty nappy hair everywhere. Or I just talk about what PUREBRED dogs have these same characteristics. They never have a response for this.

[catfancier]

When you get a new dog in the clinic and ask them their breed. Right in the middle of their rambling just say "Oh, it's a mix". They shut right up and automatically know you aren't interested in their high priced mutt.

You do need to be careful when you talk about the pet owner getting the impression you aren't interested in their high priced mutt - especially if you work in a clinic. Their high priced mutt and its health is exactly what you should be interested in!
Not trying to flame or berate you for your comment, just wanted to raise a concern. If I was a "joe public" pet owner and the nurse/tech/receptionist at the clinic made a disparaging comment to me about my choice of pet, I would probably take my business elsewhere.

[lute]

You do need to be careful when you talk about the pet owner getting the impression you aren't interested in their high priced mutt - especially if you work in a clinic. Their high priced mutt and its health is exactly what you should be interested in!
Not trying to flame or berate you for your comment, just wanted to raise a concern. If I was a "joe public" pet owner and the nurse/tech/receptionist at the clinic made a disparaging comment to me about my choice of pet, I would probably take my business elsewhere.
I don't say it rudely. I am interested in the health and well being of any dog breed or mix. I just hint that It's only a mutt. Nothing special.

[catfancier]

When you see the amount of animals as we do in clinics or working with pets the 'designer dogs' do collectively end up in a particular group.
Having said that, all pets are highly unique and special in their own individual ways. I always like to think that I treat all my client's pets as the unique individuals that they are.