I had to go to the Hospital..time for a Gypsy Update [Archive]

Kalei

11-10-2007, 03:54 PM

Well I believe its time for a Gypsy's Nightwish update...to let you know quickly what kind of a horse she is...I just got back from the hospital. Today she ran right over me.

Well starting from a few weeks ago and a few days after I got her. I began to find out some things. For one, I found out that she has barely had an inch of training on her. She is rideable but you never know what's gonna happen while you're on her. She is terrible at ground work, always running into me or pulling ahead. And I found out that all her life her previous owners let her get away with everything.

Secondly it didn't take long and we found out that she has the heaves...so now medicine has to be bought for her along with lots of outdoor time and she has to be watched with how much excercise she gets.

Thirdly because she's half psycho and I've fallen off her already, and I can't control her because I'm a small girl. Also because I'm going to college next year...my dad bought her from me. So she's still the family horse which is good. But my dad is able to control her physcally which is good.

And now today I was literally run over by her and am lucky to still be alive. Her hooves hit my head, so on the top side of my head is a major lump which is bruising, and on the upper part of my head I have a bald spot as big as a chocolate chip cookie. I am definately not happy that's for sure. What happened was another horse snuck up behind her while me and my father were trying to put on the lunge line. We didn't see this other horse behind her, and when my father saw her it was too late, Gypsy's chest knocked me to the ground and I rolled,then the only thing I could do is lay in the fetal position and wait to see if a hoof is going to crush me.

I went to the hospital and I don't have a concausion which is good. But I am really upset about my hair, I'm glad I can cover it up with other hair.

Anyways here are some more pics of Gypsy and my father.

http://i16.tinypic.com/71rb95j.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/6ut61x2.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/6wm58gi.jpg

http://i6.tinypic.com/81h1wkx.jpg

I'm glad Gypsy has someone like my dad, a strong man is what she needs to learn.

buttercup132

11-10-2007, 04:02 PM

Wow, that's pretty bad. Maybe you should get a professional trainer on her for a few days. Did you not ride her before you got her?

That kind of sounds like a old horse of mine (Rowdy,you can find pictures of him if you do a search) he was a 3 yr old QH and he was good when we tried him but when we got him to our place he was kind of bad.

Just don't let her get away with ANYTHING, if she throws you off get back on her and show her thats not ok. I got thrown off Trigger (first pony) and I got right back on him with a severly sprained ankle, I was told even if you in alot of pain get back on because it will start to get into their heads right away that it's ok to do that.

chocolatepuppy

11-10-2007, 04:15 PM

Good grief! I think I'll stick to my little animals! :eek: I'm glad you're okay, although torn up a bit! Gypsy is gorgeous and I wish your dad the best of luck with her. At least you can still see her. :)

inlovewithanimals

11-10-2007, 05:00 PM

ouch sounda like it hurt!She is a beautifull horse! when my parents went to buy me my horse they were looking for a pure black horse like her but then they saw her and couldnt decide! so they brought home pintada does your horse like trailer rides?How old is she?

Jusint

Zippy

11-10-2007, 07:27 PM

Thank God your ok.She is a beauty and that's great that your dad's going to train her.

sweetpatata6

11-10-2007, 07:46 PM

Well, first of all, glad to hear that you're ok!!! Second of all, I'd take buttercup's advice all the way. Hope the situation gets better!! Wishing you all luck!

shais_mom

11-10-2007, 10:34 PM

I'm sorry you went thru that.
I don't know much about horse maintenance but you might want to request a catalog from this company.
www.springtimeinc.com
goodluck.

Marigold2

11-11-2007, 07:01 AM

buttercup132

11-11-2007, 08:50 AM

Oh my gosh, I am so very very sorry for both the mental and physical pain you are in. As much as you love her I know that all of this must be a great disappointment to you and the family. Still it is not her fault and with lots of love and training she will turn around. It's too bad that the people who sold her to you were not honest about her personality. With an animal as big as a horse (no pun) personality is so important. I am sure she will calm down in time. Every thing is new to her, the home the rules the training. She must feel a great deal of stress and confusion and that is why she is acting out. Patience and love with a firm hand. I know she will become the wonderful horse you have wanted soon. Good luck, be safe.Actually it's nothing like that with horses, with cats and dogs sure but with horses it's totally different. She has had her for a while and she should have calmed down by now, Kalie said she was allowed to get away with everything at her old home so that's why she's the way she is now. Also being a mare she will have even more of a attitude.

sandragonfly

11-11-2007, 09:37 AM

oh my goodness, GLAD you're okay! I know gyspy didn't meant that, still, I'm so sorry this happened to you.

my tears swelled up reading this thread, I too am glad your father is helping her now - he looks confident in pictures. love is painful sometimes and you just got her so this must be hard on you.

((((gentle bear hugs to you)))), hang in there, and your hair will grow back in no time. :) (does your hair grows fast or slow?)

critter crazy

11-11-2007, 09:47 AM

sandragonfly

11-11-2007, 09:57 AM

critters, I know you're not mean at all but maybe those questions should be asked in PM? she already has a lot on the plate to answer right now and may feel a bit overwhelmed, you know? so that way she can respond you whenever she wants to. just my twocents. :)

by the way, what's heaves?

critter crazy

11-11-2007, 10:00 AM

Hey I already asked the questions, If she would like to rspond Via PM that is fine.

Heaves is like COPD in horses. It is constant occuring airway obstruction. The horse pretty much coughs all the time.

sandragonfly

11-11-2007, 10:05 AM

yeah, a while ago and that's what deletion is for.

copd???

critter crazy

11-11-2007, 10:10 AM

Gina Ilike you just fine, but I am not going to Delete a post just cause you dont like it! If karen wants me to delete it, fine, until then, It stays! some people need a wake up call!! she could have very easily lost her life!! would you have prefererred that??? People need to know their limitations when it comes to such Large animals as horses!!!

COPD- Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (google it)

sandragonfly

11-11-2007, 10:18 AM

Argranade

11-11-2007, 10:20 AM

I'm so sorry about that but so glad your ok with no broken bones!

Your horse is so beautiful and I hope everything works out. :)

critter crazy

11-11-2007, 10:41 AM

just that I think you asked hard questions, I'd feel a bit defensive especially it happened just yesterday. kalei may be different from me but again, my opinion speaking in general. I didn't say you can't ask, wouldn't a PM be less too much?

I'm on a pager, is why I asked! thank you.

I dont think any of those questions were "Hard". I think they are all questions that needs to be asked. If anything, questions she should ask herself, before putting herself in this situation again.

I have been severely hurt by a horse, and after sitting back and asking myself what went wrong, It was plain to see that It was my fault not the horses. I still to this day have Hip problems from my accident. I am just trying to make sure she dosent get hurt anymore than she already has!

Edit to add: If you are so against what I asked, why keep bringing it up here, and why not go to PM's Yourself!

sandragonfly

11-11-2007, 10:55 AM

I understand your concern really, just some timings are right.

I meant to PM in second response but I never thought it would get too sensitive, now I think differently of you.

so, nevermind.

shais_mom

11-11-2007, 11:55 AM

ok I've read this 3 times Gina and just can't get over how you make it about yourself again.
Not everyone likes to or HAS to communicate via pm's like you do.
I think you would make every post a pm and god forbid someone else doesn't.
:eek:

The_Duck

11-11-2007, 01:37 PM

Kalei, I'm so sorry that happened to you. But I'm extremly grateful that you're alright. And I'm glad that your dad is willing to work with Gypsy. She really is such a beautiful mare. I really hope things owrk out for you all.

Kalei

11-11-2007, 01:44 PM

I am so glad you are okay, as it could have been much worse!! Did you not ride her before purchasing her??? If so, how did you not notice her issues?? I would never buy such a horse,a s I am not a professional trainer, and this is exactly what this horse needs. I sure hope your dad has enough experiance to deal with her, but one must wonder, as he allowed you to ride, and work with such a horse. I also must ask, while working with such a horse, why another horse was even allowed in the area?? I am not trying to be mean, i am just concerned, for you and the horse.

Haha its okay everyone! No arguments needed, I understand both your sides and no I don't mind answering those questions. I am okay, no broken bones, I am lucky it could have been alot worse. She could have crushed my head instead of kicked it. And I know its not her fault at all. She was scared because of the other horse that snuck up behind her. First question, no I did not ride her before purchasing her (stupid I know, now I know I should have) I went by the seller's words and he said that the horse had been ridden before at a stable and was fine. As for her attitude, no that was not apparent when she was at the horse farm becuase she was around 20 some other horses so she was acting like a normal calm horse then.

My father, no he's not experience, but the place we are boarding her at, the owner is experienced. It just so happened that yesterday he wasn't home. And when it comes to the other horse still being in the area with Gypsy...that is all my parents fault. I told them a million times that they should seperate the horses from her when they are doing stuff. But they wouldn't listen to me...and now see what happened? So it was a 'told you so' kind of thing.

Anyways all if fine, I am really sore today from being rolled on the ground and kicked but I will mend. And I'm just glad this didn't drive my father to give up on her. But it will be a little bit before I go back out and do much with her. I need to heal at least first.

Thanks so much for all your concerns and I certainly don't mind answering the questions.

critter crazy

11-11-2007, 01:51 PM

Haha its okay everyone! No arguments needed, I understand both your sides and no I don't mind answering those questions. I am okay, no broken bones, I am lucky it could have been alot worse. She could have crushed my head instead of kicked it. And I know its not her fault at all. She was scared because of the other horse that snuck up behind her. First question, no I did not ride her before purchasing her (stupid I know, now I know I should have) I went by the seller's words and he said that the horse had been ridden before at a stable and was fine. As for her attitude, no that was apparent when she was at the horse farm becuase she was around 20 some other horses so she was acting like a normal calm horse then.

My father, no he's not experience, but the place we are boarding her at, the owner is experienced. It just so happened that yesterday he wasn't home. And when it comes to the other horse still being in the area with Gypsy...that is all my parents fault. I told them a million times that they should seperate the horses from her when they are doing stuff. But they wouldn't listen to me...and now see what happened? So it was a 'told you so' kind of thing.

Anyways all if fine, I am really sore today from being rolled on the ground and kicked but I will mend. And I'm just glad this didn't drive my father to give up on her. But it will be a little bit before I go back out and do much with her. I need to heal at least first.

Thanks so much for all your concerns and I certainly don't mind answering the questions.

Good to hear. Once again I am sorry it happened, I know how much it sucks to get run over by a horse. Been there and done that! And it isnt fun.

Glad to hear your dad will have some help, I sure hope this gorgeous girl can turn around for you all. She sure is pretty.

I cant even begin to imagine how your dad feels about the whole thing. I guess it was definitely an eye opener for him. I would definitely hold that over his head, at least till christmas! He he he he!!:D

shais_mom

11-11-2007, 01:51 PM

Oh my gosh, I am so very very sorry for both the mental and physical pain you are in. As much as you love her I know that all of this must be a great disappointment to you and the family. Still it is not her fault and with lots of love and training she will turn around. It's too bad that the people who sold her to you were not honest about her personality. With an animal as big as a horse (no pun) personality is so important. I am sure she will calm down in time. Every thing is new to her, the home the rules the training. She must feel a great deal of stress and confusion and that is why she is acting out. Patience and love with a firm hand. I know she will become the wonderful horse you have wanted soon. Good luck, be safe.
As much as I love horses I don't know much about them but I have heard of people giving the horse tranquilizers to make it appear sedate and calm and then when it comes home without them it turns into a hellcat. I'm not implying that Gypsy's owners did this but it appears that he wasn't altogether forthcoming with her history.

Kalei

11-11-2007, 01:59 PM

Good to hear. Once again I am sorry it happened, I know how much it sucks to get run over by a horse. Been there and done that! And it isnt fun.

Glad to hear your dad will have some help, I sure hope this gorgeous girl can turn around for you all. She sure is pretty.

I cant even begin to imagine how your dad feels about the whole thing. I guess it was definitely an eye opener for him. I would definitely hold that over his head, at least till christmas! He he he he!!:D

lol oh I will hold it over his head, remind him to seperate the horses. It was horrifying for him. He was so close to me, yet all he could do was watch his daughter get trampled and go to me when the horse was done. Its the most worried I've ever seen him before. And my mom was there too, she was crying, they said they couldn't stand the feeling, like they may have been watching their daughter get killed right in front of their eyes....but the good part is I did not die lol

Shais mom, I'm not sure if he did that or not, cuase she was friggin hyper and frisky when I got her off the trailer, she was trying to pull me everywhere. After thinking about it, I just started to realize that this farm is like a puppy mill, 80 some horses, that he doesn't know much about, he just sells them. The main ones he makes sure he knows about is the registered ones. And Gypsy wasn't registered.

critter crazy

11-11-2007, 02:00 PM

As much as I love horses I don't know much about them but I have heard of people giving the horse tranquilizers to make it appear sedate and calm and then when it comes home without them it turns into a hellcat. I'm not implying that Gypsy's owners did this but it appears that he wasn't altogether forthcoming with her history.

This definitely happens. Most times it is to hide lameness, but it is also done to calm a horse. That is the problem with buying horses, and it is also a very good reason to Bring a vet with you, and to do an exam on spot. There are just way too many people out there that you cannot trust. Nine times out of ten, if the deal is too good to be true, then it is!:)

critter crazy

11-11-2007, 02:03 PM

lol oh I will hold it over his head, remind him to seperate the horses. It was horrifying for him. He was so close to me, yet all he could do was watch his daughter get trampled and go to me when the horse was done. Its the most worried I've ever seen him before. And my mom was there too, she was crying, they said they couldn't stand the feeling, like they may have been watching their daughter get killed right in front of their eyes....but the good part is I did not die lol

Shais mom, I'm not sure if he did that or not, cuase she was friggin hyper and frisky when I got her off the trailer, she was trying to pull me everywhere. After thinking about it, I just started to realize that this farm is like a puppy mill, 80 some horses, that he doesn't know much about, he just sells them. The main ones he makes sure he knows about is the registered ones. And Gypsy wasn't registered.

Sounds like he might be a Horse trader, which is just about the same as BYB. The only difference is, they dont breed usually. they just buy up horses cheap, and turn them back around for a profit! Not caring about the horses themselves, just the money. And of course, they get their horses cheap, cause usually they have issues. Medical or other.

sandragonfly

11-11-2007, 02:30 PM

kalei, glad you're still okay - nothing too much in pain and no broken bones - rest very much!

as helping gyspy, don't you think you're gonna have a talk with the seller? may not worth it but I think he should pay the price for it. you got hurt!

don't worry, didn't see this as an argument, the questions were edited out though. sorry for hjacking. ((be careful)), hope things work out! and for gyspy too. keep us posted okay? :)

Chilli

11-11-2007, 04:01 PM

Goodness, sounds painful.
I am happy to hear that you all didn't give up on Gypsy. I bet she has the potential to be a wonderful companion. She's already got great looks, now we're just waiting for her personality to shine. :)
Good vibes headed your way for a quick recovery!

Vela

11-11-2007, 04:44 PM

Glad you didn't get hurt worse. I'd consider hiring a professional trainer for a month or two to help you deal with her issues. Consistency and firmess will go a long way. I hope you guys are able to figure out what to do about her problems and I really hope nobody gets hurt again. Horses definintely are dangerous if they have that kind of mind.

I know you are probably upset by all that has happened, you wanted a companion and friend and instead got an horse with mental/physical issues. But I bet you have sure learned a lot about buying a horse for the next time around and I hope it works out better in the future. Always have the owner ride it first, then try it yourself. Always do all the things you'd want to do at home like saddling, bridling, picking out hooves, bathing, grooming, loading in a trailer, etc., before you ever buy. And have a vet check done as well before handing over your hard earned cash. Sounds like you got her fro a horse broker and that's too bad =( I feel bad for you that it turned out like that but I hope she comes around and things go better for you.

ramanth

11-11-2007, 09:41 PM

I'm glad you weren't hurt worse. The hair will grow back. :) Sorry she has those issues but it sounds like you plan to stick it out, thick or thin.

She's a beautiful horse.

Taz_Zoee

11-11-2007, 10:42 PM

Wow, I also got tears in my eyes reading about this. Thank God you are okay!!! I am sorry you and your parents had to go through that. I guess we learn our lessons the hard way. :(
But I do hope Gypsy can come around and be a great horse for you and your family. :)

buttercup132

11-12-2007, 09:14 AM

that the horse had been ridden before at a stable and was fine That might be true, I know there are alot of people who show and stuff and can hop on any horse and make them listen. Not saying your a bad rider or anything but I was the same way with Rowdy.

After thinking about it, I just started to realize that this farm is like a puppy mill, 80 some horses, that he doesn't know much about, he just sells them. The main ones he makes sure he knows about is the registered ones. And Gypsy wasn't registered. That's sad. But doesn't he get them from other people? Maybe they were auction horses he saved.

I have seen on horse classified ads where people say like 30 days with professional trainer and they can w/t/c fine. So they must do good. I think if you get a few days and keep being consisitant then she will be good.
Also once you get more used to the way her body moves etc you will just be able to tell when she is going to do something like act up or spook and you'll be able to stop it.

I'm so glad your ok.

Kalei

11-12-2007, 11:07 AM

Yeah he gets them from alot of auctions out west in Alberta and also gets alot of them from Quebec. Some he gets from local people and he keeps a stallion or two for breeding at his own place. But most all of them come from auctions.

I suppose at an auction you have to act fast and don't really always know what you're getting.

Now when I got to buy a horse again someday, I am going to buy one from someone locally and private that can tell me everything. Or even some personal friends I know who breed their horses.

zippy-kat

11-12-2007, 09:01 PM

Didn't a friend buy one at the same time as you? Out of curiosity, how is his/her horse?

Glad to hear you're ok.

Kalei

11-13-2007, 10:51 AM

Didn't a friend buy one at the same time as you? Out of curiosity, how is his/her horse?

Glad to hear you're ok.

Thanks, yeah my friend got her horse now. Its just as high strung and un trained as Gypsy...actually her horse hasn't even been saddlebroke and its 5 years old too. But my friend is an expert unlike me, so althought its going to be alot of work for her, she'll be able to do it in time. And that horse doesn't seem to have any health problems yet.

I get to stay home for two days, today I had to go to outpatients again to get my rib checked cause its been bothering me...and I have muscle damage there. But oh well, it means more time on pt:D