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buttercup132
09-19-2007, 06:04 PM
A little while ago I was offered to move up in my job. I currently train for grooming and work at a shop and every few weeks go to the vet and groom.
The person who worked full time at the vet got hurt and quit and they offered me to take over the job. I would be walking into 200 + clients already.
I have to do more training till December ish then I move to the vets.

I think I'm leaving school to finish my training faster. I don't need my schooling for my job (as it will be my career too) and school stresses the heck out of me.
Work is busy busy but it doesn't stress me out even with the dogs that bite and don't want to be done.
Not to mention I need the money, I owe my parents for Ducks vet bills and if he has chronic crystals then I'll need my job. While in school I work one day a week for maybe 3 hours which = $60 a pay check for 2 weeks. It just doesn't cut it for me. I can save up for a car for when I move to my other job as it's about 20 minutes away. I could finally afford a horse, which I've wanted for I dont even know how long.

I just wanted to share, I'm pretty excited.

caseysmom
09-19-2007, 06:08 PM
Isn't it against the law to quit school? Your employer could get in trouble.

buttercup132
09-19-2007, 06:08 PM
No you can leave at 16.

caseysmom
09-19-2007, 06:10 PM
Oh I didn't know that...hopefully my daughter doesn't hear that :D

You should at least get your GED it couldn't hurt.

buttercup132
09-19-2007, 06:12 PM
Whats GED?

caseysmom
09-19-2007, 06:14 PM
I am not sure what it stands for but it is a test you take instead of finishing high school, it is a degree pretty much equivalant to a high school diploma and I don't believe its too hard to pass.

Maybe its a california thing??

buttercup132
09-19-2007, 06:24 PM
Maybe, I thinkw e have something along the lines of that here but I think it's for when your 19 or something.

Sevaede
09-19-2007, 07:29 PM
G.E.D. stands for General Equivalency Diploma. It's what they offer to you when you don't complete your regular high school coursework.

From what I've seen, it's a work at your own pace thing. They give you packets and books. When you complete them, you receive a G.E.D. It probably varies from place to place, though.

jennielynn1970
09-19-2007, 07:29 PM
Do you plan to be a groomer forever, or at least 10+ years? If not, stay in school and get your diploma. Seriously. Dropping out will put you at a huge disadvantage later in life if you want to get a career in something that requires more of an education, and a higher salary. Not that grooming won't be a good job (I have no clue about this...), but I'd say at least get your diploma.

Not sure about Canada, but here in the US, you won't get much of anywhere without the minimum of your high school diploma, not to mention an associate's degree. Quitting school is never the answer.

Laura's Babies
09-19-2007, 07:36 PM
If you are a smart sort of person (in school) you could probably go on and take you GED test, pass and get your diploma anyway. I have a foster grandson that quit, took his and passed and is done with school. If you don't pass, no sweat, you can study and go at your own pace but you NEED that diploma!!!

moosmom
09-19-2007, 07:43 PM
Jenn_Librarian gave you great advice. Do yourself a favor and stay in school and get your diploma. Most employers require a high school diploma. Don't short change yourself. JMO.

jennielynn1970
09-19-2007, 07:44 PM
Not sure what other states are like, but here in PA, a GED won't get you crap. They have grades of diplomas for graduates. Were you in a general course, an AP course or a vo-tech course. Smarts or not, and I hate to say this, but it also has to do with being motivated and wanting to excel and do your best. Who wants to hire someone who decided to quit school and just take the GED because it was the easy way out??

Even if you go to a charter school, or take cyber school courses... get an education.

If your employer wants what is best for you, they would not suggest or encourage you to drop out. That's just wrong.

I'm not trying to be a smartass or anything either... seriously.... you seem like a really intelligent girl, it would be such a shame if you dropped out.

Tollers-n-Dobes
09-19-2007, 07:44 PM
Sounds like a good job, but I don't think you should quit school, no matter how much it stresses you out and don't like it. School does that to almost everybody. One of the stupidest things people can do for themselves (IMO) in today's society is quit going to school. You never know what could happen later on in life; you may need that diploma someday.

KittyGurl
09-19-2007, 08:24 PM
Stay in school and get your diploma. Dropping out will really hurt you in life and you will be sorry about dropping out. Quiting college is one thing you can always go back, but dropping out of high schoolis a bad idea.

This is just my opinion. It's your desicion. You do what you think is right.

Giselle
09-19-2007, 08:24 PM
Do not quit school!!

Today's society is very fast-paced and very competitive. I'm sure your job is fantastic now, but think about the logistics. I assume you still live with your parents. I'm sure you'd want to move out and begin an independent life with your own car. That means bills, bills, insurance, bills, (and here in America), TAXES. After you pay off your bills and taxes and insurance, you are left with a fraction of your original paycheck. Not to mention your mortgage/rent/food/pet food/pet supplies, too...

In the long run, your education will stick with you forever. Your job? Not so much. As a fellow teenager, I can sympathize with you. School is stressful, but, like Aristotle once said, "The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet".

buttercup132
09-19-2007, 08:24 PM
If you are a smart sort of person (in school) Thing is I'm not. I don't know if you guys have this where you live but here we have Academic classes and applied classes. Applied classe are more slack, hands on and easier where academic you don't really get any help from the teacher it's just come in class this is what your supposed to do and you do it no help no explaining.
I have all my life in high school taken applied classes, all through middle school I stuggled to pass and always had C's and D's. Now on my last year all of a sudden it's like I'm in all academic classes and I'm getting work piled on me, we get assigned big projects when we aren't even finished the ones we were doing before. That freaks me out and I can't do it especially when thats not what I'm used to.


Who wants to hire someone who decided to quit school and just take the GED because it was the easy way out?? I don't plan on getting hired anywhere I will have my own place no matter what.


you seem like a really intelligent girl I am but not in school. I'm smart when it's something I like and am motivated to learn about.


Do you plan to be a groomer forever, or at least 10+ years? I do, I planned on it for the past few years. This might sound dumb but my mom also went to a phsycic (sp?) and she said she saw me being very succesfull especially if I got into fancy? clipping, I assume what she ment by that is show clipping.

If I ever need my grd. 12 I can always get it whenever I want.
But really that is very very doubtful being as even if for some very very strange reason it fell through I would still be doing the same thing which requires the same things.

KittyGurl
09-19-2007, 08:31 PM
I don't plan on getting hired anywhere I will have my own place no matter what.

So are you just going to be a grommer for the rest of your life? Don't get me wrong, it's a good job, you get paid, but wouldn't you want a different job to get paid more money. People these days only care about education. Dropping out of high school is a BAD idea. Even if you do get Cs and Ds, it's a lot better than dropping out of school.

jennielynn1970
09-19-2007, 08:36 PM
Having to complete a project or a paper is too much of a challenge??? Geez girl, hate to see what happens when you have adult commitments and obligations.

We all do things we're not used to. Life is a challenge.

If you can live with mom and dad for the rest of your life, don't have to worry about bills (and your biggest goal is to get a horse and not your education).... yeah, well, I guess I don't have to continue this thought.

buttercup132
09-19-2007, 08:43 PM
Having to complete a project or a paper is too much of a challenge??? Uh it's obviously harder then that, but you do a great job making me feel even more dumb.


and your biggest goal is to get a horse I never said that was my biggest goal in life..

KittyGurl
09-19-2007, 08:46 PM
Uh it's obviously harder then that, but you do a great job making me feel even more dumb.

Well, if it is too challenging why do you just tell us what the assignment is and maybe someone can help you out. Have you ever asked your parents for help?

Giselle
09-19-2007, 08:48 PM
Buttercup, don't feel like none of us know what you're going through. I'm a Junior. I'm going through the worst year of high school, what with worrying about my grades, the SAT I's, the SAT II's, the ACT, and the dreaded English term paper.

I know. It's tough. You feel like giving up half the time. But here's one thing that separates the achievers from the wishers: Commitment.

You have to commit. You can't settle for C's and D's. You have to want yourself to succeed and you have to commit to that. How many hours do you spend on Pet Talk? Cut it down to half, and spend the rest of that time studying. I really shouldn't be on PT right now, but I know myself and my schedule well enough to budget my time efficiently. There are days when I skip using the computer for many days. Sacrifice your computer and your current job before you sacrifice your education and a hope of a better life.

Don't quit school!!!!

KittyGurl
09-19-2007, 08:50 PM
Well said Giselle. Good advice! :)

jennielynn1970
09-19-2007, 08:58 PM
Uh it's obviously harder then that, but you do a great job making me feel even more dumb.

I never said that was my biggest goal in life..




I don't make you feel any way. Only you can make yourself feel dumb.

What I want to do is shake your shoulders for wanting to take the easy way out. Don't give up because of a challenge. Get a tutor, or a peer tutor. Form a study group or find one that is already formed. I'm sure you're not the only one who has problems in school, and others would benefit from help as well.

Look at the kids who have disabilities, mental and physical, and they stay the course. They face challenges that you could never even imagine.

Finish your senior year. Seriously. You're SOOOO close to the end. Don't give up now. You'll kick yourself in the end.

Alysser
09-19-2007, 09:03 PM
Alicia, if you ask anyone in high school on here, we all know what you're going through. I know, it's tough. I just started Freshmen year, although we have to go through all the 8th grade crap, I know it is going to get harder. MUCH harder, whenever you advance to another grade. Aren't you a senior? If so, then just finish this year off. It'll do you good, and it can't hurt. Although you may be stressing right now with it, this will be your last year of school, you DON'T need to go to college but as everyone said finish High School. I get B's and C's and D's to. Hey, it's still passing. As long as you pass, you'll be fine.

kuhio98
09-19-2007, 09:07 PM
Don't quit school! You are limiting your options for the future. Most jobs require at least a high school diploma. Who wants to hire someone who couldn't be bothered to at least finish high school?

You may not want to be a groomer a 5 years from now. You don't know what the future holds. You may change your mind tomorrow. But, that's what being young is all about. Trying out new things and seeing where they take you.

If you want to own your own business, you have to know a lot. You have to know what you're doing or the right questions to ask to hire people who do know what their doing. How will you know if someone is cheating you in your business?

Please quit telling yourself that you're dumb. That's a cop-out. What you may be is stressed, depressed and looking to take what seems to be the easy way out. In the long run, it will be much harder to make a living if you cut and run now. If you quit, it will get easier and easier to quit on yourself.

Please stay in school. You just might learn something -- maybe about yourself.

Catty1
09-19-2007, 09:12 PM
Saw a program on the news the other night.

There was a counsellor talking about how about 40 - 60% of high school students are doing self-harm - cutting themselves, excessive piercings, etc.

One of the stress factors he mentioned was homework just getting piled on the kids.

There are many stories of bright people in the wrong kind of training - Einstein was a high-school dropout.

BC, first find out if the GED would cost you anything, or if you could do it through the school system where you are. I think you need to do this at your own pace - just make sure you KEEP the pace - and I hope you can have access to tutors that wouldn't cost you too much, or be covered for the cost somehow.

The GED books tell you what you need to know for the test. See your school counsellor - they aren't there just for emotional troubles, they help with school stuff as well. Maybe there is a way to do some courses online, as a compromise? Maybe you need to be at another school. Tell the counsellor what you told us - how impossible and overwhelming it is. See if there are other options you can work with.

ETA: How about working, and splitting your senior year over one year and one summer - or even two years?

It isn't always the student's fault. Some need a different way to learn what is needed to be learned. My mom was a teacher of all levels and kinds of kids for over 40 years, and she knows that.

Like the "Fame" school, or the ballet and music schools in old Russia, it would be great to have an educational place that included your grooming skills!

In any case, talk over this option with a professional at the school, and even maybe see if you can talk to some folks who did the GED and are doing fine a few years on.

Not everyone is an academic - and it can be sheer h*** to struggle being a square peg in a round hole for years.

moosmom
09-19-2007, 09:21 PM
You think writing a paper or completing a project is a challenge??? Try being diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor on your brain stem at the age of 16, going through major brain surgery and having to learn to walk, talk, dress, and feed yourself all over again. That and keeping up with your studies to graduate with the rest of your class. THAT little girl, is a REAL challenge. And THAT is what my daughter had to go through. She never once complained how tough she has it.

So while you're having a pity party about how "tough" life is for you, I suggest you grow up and make your parents proud by graduating. This way they don't have to refer to you as their high school dropout.

caseysmom
09-19-2007, 09:36 PM
Seriously you are getting good advice even if it is coming out kind of harsh. Who cares what anyone else thinks, do this for yourself I promise you will be glad later. I hated high school but a year after I graduated I went to college and loved it, I would have never thought I would.

jennielynn1970
09-19-2007, 09:42 PM
There are many stories of bright people in the wrong kind of training - Einstein was a high-school dropout.

It isn't always the student's fault. Some need a different way to learn what is needed to be learned.

Like the "Fame" school, or the ballet and music schools in old Russia, it would be great to have an educational place that included your grooming skills!

Not everyone is an academic - and it can be sheer h*** to struggle being a square peg in a round hole for years.

While alternative schools are a good option, normally one does not wait until their senior year to change course.

People do learn in different ways, and many times learning disabilities are diagnosed and adaptations are made in school. In the US it's called an IEP (Individual Educational Program or Plan), and if the child is learning disabled or gifted, or has any kind of disability, they normally are evaluated and have one of these implemented in at least middle school.

I was a business major in high school. I had Bs and Cs and wasn't a fan of school. I went to community college and discovered that there were so many other options out there, and teaching styles and courses offered were just as varied. I'm the first one who will tell you that I NEVER thought I'd ever have my masters degree, let alone be an educator myself. Not saying that college is a necessary, but high school, finishing school, that's just a no brainer.

Stay in school. You're a senior. If you drop out, the odds of you going back are slimmer than someone who drops out of college and wants to go back.

Make finishing your senior year your goal for now. Rise to the challenge. Teachers normally don't set you up to fail... they give you what they think you can accomplish, even if it will be a challenge. If you are given a certain amount of work, then the expectation is that you CAN achieve the goal of finishing it. Some of our lowest level kids achieve more than anyone would have ever thought they could have because the teachers they had believed in them. You have to believe in yourself as well.

Don't make excuses for yourself. You can do what you set your mind to. I'm sure if it was something that you wanted, you'd do it no matter what others said, even if you knew it was next to impossible to achieve.

Karen
09-19-2007, 11:13 PM
Sweetie, I know we all seem to be ganging up on you, but I do hope you continue with your schooling. Meet with a school counselor, and see if you could do some compromise between your course load and work, and maybe get some class credit for work.

Why? When you plan on having your own business? Because every business needs capital - as in money. A bank is going to have serious questions about lending you money for your business without a high school diploma.

Seriously, not that you haven't thought about this, but do sit down with someone you can trust at school. This is a huge decision, and not having a high school diploma can make life much more difficult than it needs to be.

crow_noir
09-20-2007, 02:56 AM
What's wrong with having a career that makes you happy so long as you make enough money to get by? You don't have to live in luxury and make six figures a year to be happy.

I'd choose being a DNR officer any day over an office job that paid 3 X's as much.


So are you just going to be a grommer for the rest of your life? Don't get me wrong, it's a good job, you get paid, but wouldn't you want a different job to get paid more money. People these days only care about education. Dropping out of high school is a BAD idea. Even if you do get Cs and Ds, it's a lot better than dropping out of school.

crow_noir
09-20-2007, 03:10 AM
Good post Catty...

along the lines of what you mentioned... I wondered too if there is a vocational(???) school around there. I think in some places they are called trade schools. Ours used to be called the Skill Center. Forget what it is called now. They teach stuff hands on... there's book work too. VERY attentive teachers though. (I never went, but know plenty of people that did.) This was in addition to regular high school.

buttercup132 i know it can be really tough when teachers don't give any help. It doesn't mean that you are dumb... it means the teachers aren't doing their job. I got one of those and went from being an A student in math down to C's and D's. I am not a good self taught learner. Things take a while to sink in. I got stuck with that guy for two years. Very discouraging, and my moral dropped horribly as my GPA plummeted.

At least you have SOME idea what you want to do with your life. Be determined and head for the light. At least no matter how you go about getting your education you won't be wasting your time. (It wasn't until two years after i graduated that i had ANY direction to go in and that was because of an epiphany.)

It's a lot easier staying on the horse, than falling off and trying to get back on. (your arse may be sore and chapped, but at least you'll still have a horse.) (Yes, I speak of the horse as education.) I'm not telling you to stay in school, but i do think it would be wise if you did... at least in one form or another. ...even if it's just switching to a different school. (Find out what other students have to say about theirs.)


Saw a program on the news the other night.

There was a counsellor talking about how about 40 - 60% of high school students are doing self-harm - cutting themselves, excessive piercings, etc.

One of the stress factors he mentioned was homework just getting piled on the kids.

There are many stories of bright people in the wrong kind of training - Einstein was a high-school dropout.

BC, first find out if the GED would cost you anything, or if you could do it through the school system where you are. I think you need to do this at your own pace - just make sure you KEEP the pace - and I hope you can have access to tutors that wouldn't cost you too much, or be covered for the cost somehow.

The GED books tell you what you need to know for the test. See your school counsellor - they aren't there just for emotional troubles, they help with school stuff as well. Maybe there is a way to do some courses online, as a compromise? Maybe you need to be at another school. Tell the counsellor what you told us - how impossible and overwhelming it is. See if there are other options you can work with.

ETA: How about working, and splitting your senior year over one year and one summer - or even two years?

It isn't always the student's fault. Some need a different way to learn what is needed to be learned. My mom was a teacher of all levels and kinds of kids for over 40 years, and she knows that.

Like the "Fame" school, or the ballet and music schools in old Russia, it would be great to have an educational place that included your grooming skills!

In any case, talk over this option with a professional at the school, and even maybe see if you can talk to some folks who did the GED and are doing fine a few years on.

Not everyone is an academic - and it can be sheer h*** to struggle being a square peg in a round hole for years.

ChrisH
09-20-2007, 05:00 AM
Ok, the advice everyone has given here is valid and sensible so I guess I'm a voice in the wilderness but what the hell ....

Buttercup, your reasons and way of thinking made a whole lot of sense to me. If you pause, think it through some more, talk it over with your parents and then still feel the same, then I say go with it, take the job, live your life.

buttercup132
09-20-2007, 05:54 AM
Thank you to those who have been supportive. I'm still in the thought process of it.

Crow_Noir you seem to understand it best. I will see if I can talk to a councler.
Thank Chris for being so supportive.

I have talked to quite a few adults and they all say I should go for it, even someone who had dropped out of school. She said it's not like I'm dropping out and sitting on my butt all day, I'm going out and continuing my learning for a job I want to do.

And I dont know if your forgetting or not but if I ever decide I dont want to do it for some reaosn I can always still get my grd. 12.

KittyGurl
09-20-2007, 06:42 AM
Buttercup, just please, listen to us. We aren't trying to be mean, we aren't trying to make you feel stupid and we aren't trying to kick you down, we all are trying to get you to stay in school. Even though it seems we all are ganging up on you, we all are trying to help you. Don't quit now, you are almost done. 1 more year to go, you are almost finish. No one on PT wants to see you have a hard time in life cause you dropped out.

I notice no one else said this, but: Congrats on the job offer! We all know you will make the right desicion.

moosmom
09-20-2007, 09:14 AM
BC,

After viewing your posts again and your spelling, you NEED to stay in school.

Pembroke_Corgi
09-20-2007, 10:16 AM
Buttercup, I think you should really think about your decision and go with your heart. I don't think you should take the job just for the money- because your parents are there to help you and there will always be jobs. Think about what you really want and don't let yourself feel pressured just by the pay.

That being said, I don't think education is the end all and be all of the universe. I hated high school and went through a really rough time through my parents divorce and so on, and I left school and got my GED. It has never for a moment not been "good enough." I was still able to go to a good college, get a BA, and now I am even in graduate school. Even though I hated high school I loved college.

If you decide to take the job, then that's your decision. I do think you should try to get your GED (or the Canadian equivalent) because that way, if you ever decide to make a change, it will be easier. And pursuing one right when you leave school will be so much easier than waiting. Even if you stay a groomer for the rest of your life, you will still have that to show.

Remember, you are not dumb no matter what anyone says! Intelligence is not one size fits all. Don't let other people get you down, just go with your own instincts. :)

slleipnir
09-20-2007, 10:52 AM
I haven't read the other posts. Sorry if I'm repeating.

You probably only have what, a year or two left? Right now you're probably thinking it would be great, you don't need it...but what if someday your grooming job goes down the drain? or it's not enough? Someday you might regret not finishing school. I've known people who did the same and later regretted and had to go back for their high school equivalence or whatever it's called. It's up to you but try thinking of all options.

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 11:26 AM
BC,

After viewing your posts again and your spelling, you NEED to stay in school.

You and Kym need to stop making all these jabs, I know its not my place to say anything but it is getting ugly.

moosmom
09-20-2007, 11:33 AM
caseysmom,

What??? YOU think her spelling is fine??

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 11:36 AM
caseysmom,

What??? YOU think her spelling is fine??

Thats not what I said.

I don't think its contructive to point that out in that manner.

BitsyNaceyDog
09-20-2007, 11:57 AM
Meet with a school counselor, and see if you could do some compromise between your course load and work, and maybe get some class credit for work.
We had something like that at my high school. The kids took the required courses- history, science, english, and math. Rather than taking elective courses they were allowed to leave school early to go to work. They had to work a certain number of hours and their boss had to sign off on those hours.

Just something to think about- if you decide to leave school to work full time will your parents continue to support you? Will they let you continue to live with them? Will you need to pay them rent? Will you still be on your parents insurance?

Good luck with whichever you decide.

wolf_Q
09-20-2007, 12:08 PM
I started out working as a bather after high school. I'm a groomer now, I have been for a few years...I've been working there for 5 years now. It is a good job, I enjoy it, however, it is not a wage I can live by myself on. If I were married and there were two sources of income, it would be fine, but with just me I'll never be able to afford a house. That is why I'm going to college to get a degree and possibly earn a higher wage. Now its possible the wages are better where you are, and I know that I could actually make more money if I groomed more dogs...but I'm not willing to give up quality for quantity. Personally, I think you would be better to finish high school. There is always a need for groomers and you will be able to find another grooming job. But it's your life and your decision, good luck with whatever you decide.

moosmom
09-20-2007, 12:14 PM
contructive

:confused: :confused:

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 12:17 PM
Wow thanks for pointing out my spelling error in a sentence when I was basically saying how petty it is to point out spelling errors, sort of makes my point...or as Kym would say "I did that on purpose"

So are you and Kym the new spelling police? Gee we sure need that around here.

BitsyNaceyDog
09-20-2007, 12:19 PM
:confused: :confused:

I think she meant constructive.

Karen
09-20-2007, 12:19 PM
Any pointing out of spelling errors should be done via PM, so the person has the opportunity to learn and correct his or her post without public embarrassment.

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 12:20 PM
I know how to spell I made a typo, but gee that should never happen since we are all totally perfect :rolleyes:

Oh Kblaix, she knew what I meant but needed to belittle me, very becoming of her.

moosmom
09-20-2007, 12:21 PM
I was not pointing out the error. I was simply wondering what word you were trying to use. I thought it was "constructive" but didn't want to assume anything.

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 12:22 PM
Yeah there are lots of other possiblities for contructive...the list goes on and on.

Whisk_Luva
09-20-2007, 12:24 PM
Yeah there are lots of other possiblities for contructive...the list goes on and on.

But its ok to check isnt it?

Moosmom probably just wanted to be 100% sure thats what you meant so I see no harm in her asking...

moosmom
09-20-2007, 12:27 PM
Ellie,

EXACTLY! I thought maybe she meant contrusive but that's not even a word, so I was a bit confused.

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 12:27 PM
Okay I am glad she knows for sure now since it was so important to know for sure.

Whisk_Luva
09-20-2007, 12:30 PM
Okay I am glad she knows for sure now since it was so important to know for sure.
Do I 'hear' a little sarcasm (Sp?) in that? :confused:


Ellie,

EXACTLY! I thought maybe she meant contrusive but that's not even a word, so I was a bit confused.


Understandable, everyone gets a little confused sometimes... ;)

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 12:31 PM
Ellie,

EXACTLY! I thought maybe she meant contrusive but that's not even a word, so I was a bit confused.

Since I have never heard that word in my life it is doubtful, now I sure hope everything is all cleared up for you.

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 12:32 PM
Do I 'hear' a little sarcasm (Sp?) in that? :confused:


Everyone gets a little confused sometimes... ;)

Yes you did, very good.

Whisk_Luva
09-20-2007, 12:35 PM
Yes you did, very good.

I really dont see anything wrong with her getting confused and asking what you actually meant by the word- Never assume anything etc (I am sure most of you know the rest of the saying)

Lady's Human
09-20-2007, 12:35 PM
Now that everyone's DONE! sniping at each other about petty bs, we return to the topic at hand........

BC, you should REALLY finish school. It's worth looking into work/study, as you could spend more time finishing your training and still stay in school to get your diploma.

buttercup132
09-20-2007, 12:37 PM
After viewing your posts again and your spelling, you NEED to stay in school Why? I'm not becoming something that needs it. Sorry that I have typos and mis spell somethings.
After veiwing your post again you should probly go back to pre school and learn some manners and how to get along with others.


I don't think you should take the job just for the money- because your parents are there to help you and there will always be jobs I'm not doing it just for the money, it's just it would be helpful.


Just something to think about- if you decide to leave school to work full time will your parents continue to support you? Will they let you continue to live with them? Will you need to pay them rent? Will you still be on your parents insurance?
No I can live here as long as I want and don't have to pay anything. My brother is 21 going on 22 and still lives here. He's in college right now but even if he wasn't he would still be able to be here.

Amy, I do plan on doing more dogs. My boss doesn't work late either we usually finish 10 dogs by 1/2. And I can't move out on my own, I won't do it I'm far too parinoid and can't stand being alone. So I will have split rent.

CathyBogart
09-20-2007, 12:38 PM
Hey Buttercup! I left high school at sixteen, and it was the BEST thing I ever did! HS was totally not not NOT my thing. I took my equivalency and passed without a problem, got into the community college I wanted to go to, and it has never had a negative effect on my life.

You can feel free to PM me if you want to chat about it without reading all this drama. :)

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 12:39 PM
BC, Being a good, kind person is more important than having perfect spelling, just keep that in mind. I hope you find happiness and fulfillment whatever you decide. Your young and have your whole life ahead of you.

CathyBogart
09-20-2007, 12:48 PM
After going through and reading through the WHOLE thread, I have more to add.

I was a C and D student in HS, and I could never get myself motivated enough to commit to doing well for more than a few days at a time. Leaving school gave me the time I needed to work for a few years (In a hobby shop, which I loved) and find for myself when I was motivated enough to really commit to school. Now I'm doing much better.

Most prospective employers don't care what you did in high school. If you have a certification or an AA, that's what they look at. According to my mom (when I was stressing about not getting the best of grades in college) they don't give a hoot what your GPA was in college either.

Follow your heart, if this job looks like a great long-term prospect, do it. It sounds like a great experience.

Muddy4paws
09-20-2007, 01:41 PM
Just remember that people can be a bit fussy when it comes to their dogs. Just because she has offered you her customers doesn't mean that the customers will stay with you. People do seem to look up to more older groomers I find that alot, I own my own buisness and Im 19 so believe me with that issue.

How do you compare to qualifications? If she used to work as a vet people will see that as a added bonus, Knowing their dogs will be 110% dafe with this lady.

Can you afford the rent etc? What is customers do decide to go somewhere else? Why not see if you can do a partnership with this lady instead, giving her the option of a silent partner status rather than physically helping you.

JenBKR
09-20-2007, 01:54 PM
Do you need your parents' permission to quit school? How do they feel about you quitting school and taking this job? Just wondering their take on it, as parents really do know more than we give them credit for as teenagers ;) I personally didn't care much for high school, and I didn't try very hard either. I did enough to squeak by. I did not want to go to college.....until the very end of my senior year when I suddenly changed my mind. I started out at community college and loved it. I transfered to a 4-year university and finished my B.S. Certainly not what I had envisioned. But sometimes life takes a different direction that what you plan. Do you have GEDs or something like that where you live? I think that would be good for you, then maybe consider taking some classes at a community college. Maybe some business classes, especially if you want to own your own business. You have a lot of options right now, and I just wish you luck in deciding. I know this must be difficult for you, but think about what's best for you in the future, not just right now. Good luck, and keep us updated in what you decide to do! :)

ETA: Some people mentioned what is called work-study here, where you go to high school for part of the day then leave to go to work. That might be good for you to look into as well. I believe you get school credits for working, but I am not sure exactly how it works. Talking to your counselor in school about all of your options is a great idea :)

Flatcoatluver
09-20-2007, 02:09 PM
Alicia, I know exactly how you feel, I was in you same shoes. I couldn't concentrate in school, I was severally depressed, and school was miserable for me. I got horrible grades, and I just wanted to give in. I then heard of a online high school, this is my second year and finally my last. It's wonderful because you can do work whenever you feel like it, since I have a job that I work 4-5 days a week, I can juggle my school work around the days I work and I also have time to hang out with friends and train dogs. There is so many more class options to take in this school. Maybe you can try and find a online school next semester. Last year there was only couple of online high schools, now there is hundreds.

I wish some people in here would stop being so rude, your comments are hurtful, I and others have felt specially targeted by you in the past. If only we could be as perfect as you.

Sevaede
09-20-2007, 02:09 PM
This thread had given me some new perspective on my own situation. Sweet. :)

lorn
09-20-2007, 02:19 PM
WOW! Talk about Needing to stay in school, after reading some of these posts I think there are alot of adults here whom need to go Back to school (grade 12 or not).... How immature and demeaning some of these posts are.
Alot of youhave given some really great advice and are tryning to help, but gosh some of you are just WOW NASTY.
You are in a way (some of you) making it sound like the career she has chosen is not good enough. What is wrong with being a Dog groomer.??????
If it is something you enjoy isnt that what is also important.
Being a Groomer has alot more involved than just bruching and bathing a dog/cat. You are trained for many other things to.
She has been offered a position to take over a groomin buisiness that is located in a vetenaraians basement. The vet has seen her work before and has been recommended her by her employers, once she is fully trained.
As for renting the space, that has all been talked about.
Alicia is excelling in her Job and her employers are amazed with her.... She has found her calling.
Some people are just not cut out for school.... She will be leaving to go on to do an aprenteship which she has been offered for free at her present company. What she is saying is that she feels she will fail anyway at school and will have to keep going back to finish getting her credits. So instead of this she wants to get on with what she wants to do the most and go on to a different type of schooling.... In a perfect world she would finish highschool and then go on to her apprenteship, but hey this is not a perfect world.
If she feels she needs it down the road then she will have to do Independent learning at home to get it or she could go back.
But for now I believe what is best for MY CHILD is to do what she most enjoys doing and continue learning her trade.
I DO NOT appreciate people pickng her apart....GOD GROW UP!

Karen
09-20-2007, 03:08 PM
Hey, hey, hey. No one here should ever tell anyone else to "grow up" - regardless of their age. We need to treat each other with respect, regardless of our differing opinions.

I, for example, never said that being a groomer wasn't a good career. I just pointed out that, because she has said her eventual goal is to own her own business, banks might take her business plan and request for start-up capital more seriously with a high school diploma under her belt. She's in Canada, not the US, so I do not know if a GED - or it's equivalency is given the same consideration as a diploma in Canada. That's something for her to research.

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 03:34 PM
Hey, hey, hey. No one here should ever tell anyone else to "grow up" - regardless of their age. We need to treat each other with respect, regardless of our differing opinions.

I, for example, never said that being a groomer wasn't a good career. I just pointed out that, because she has said her eventual goal is to own her own business, banks might take her business plan and request for start-up capital more seriously with a high school diploma under her belt. She's in Canada, not the US, so I do not know if a GED - or it's equivalency is given the same consideration as a diploma in Canada. That's something for her to research.

That goes for post #29 of Buttercups other thread also, there is another member telling someone to grow up, hopefully this applies to that person also.

KittyGurl
09-20-2007, 03:38 PM
What do your parents think about you quiting high school? You only have ONE more year to go. ONE more year. After that you are done, so why don't you just finish it up.

Sevaede
09-20-2007, 03:53 PM
BC, just do what is right for you. What is good for you may not be for others and that is perfectly okay. Just do the best you can with the information you have at the time!

buttercup132
09-20-2007, 04:58 PM
What do your parents think about you quiting high school? You only have ONE more year to go. ONE more year. After that you are done, so why don't you just finish it up.
Read the thread, I'm pretty sure I've already aswered like every question you have asked..


we return to the topic at hand This thread wasn't made to ask people if I should stay or leave school so your still not on topic.

moosmom
09-20-2007, 06:08 PM
Good luck with your "apprenteship".

:rolleyes:

Kfamr
09-20-2007, 06:13 PM
Being that I was in the same situation as you, I say stay in school. I would have if I hadn't been so behind.

If you do drop out please do check and see if Canada has something similar to the GED. I would think they'd have to. A majority of places accept the GED just like they would a diploma.

Some of the comments in this thread are absolutely disgusting and the exact reason why so many stay away from Pet Talk. Being a highschool drop out does NOT make one lower than you. I'd think refraining from being a witch to people would be more important than one's spelling. Save the witchiness for Halloween.

caseysmom
09-20-2007, 06:15 PM
Good luck with your "apprenteship".

:rolleyes:

Please stop correcting spelling errors, Karen specifically asked that this stop.

G535
09-20-2007, 07:16 PM
I left school at 14 and home at 16, I started my own business and when I couldn't cope with that any more (after 20 years) because of arthritis I started another business. You only live once and it's no use being miserable doing something that you don't have to do. Good luck! :)

jennielynn1970
09-20-2007, 07:24 PM
Most prospective employers don't care what you did in high school. If you have a certification or an AA, that's what they look at. According to my mom (when I was stressing about not getting the best of grades in college) they don't give a hoot what your GPA was in college either.


Yeah... cause we ALL want to have a pharmacist, lawyer, teacher or doctor who got a 2.0 in college and was a slacker.

Most majors that matter have GPAs that you can't go under if you want to stay in them and graduate.

Maybe if you are working as a cashier or waitress, something not needing a degree or diploma, your employer may not care what your GPA was in college. In anything that affects other people's health and well being and is technically a "professional" position, it matters. (I'm not saying that being a cashier or waitress is a lowly job either... I'm talking about where degrees are needed... I've done both waitressing and cashiering).

Employers care about these things, you'd be foolish to think they didn't. Why would someone want to hire a person who behaved like a slacker and didn't give a crap about their future. I wouldn't want someone like that working for me... it goes to show what kind of employee they will be, their potential, or lack thereof.

Argranade
09-20-2007, 07:29 PM
I'm not in school anymore and I stopped like 2 years ago,

Right now I'm looking into taking photography courses and working with birds, it's all I want to do in life, I also plan on getting a job at Pj's where I can get allot of money every week to save up for vet trips, new cages, new cameras ect..., I hope to work in the bird section at Pj's. School is too much presure for me, I came home with head aches almost everyday and I almost fainted a few times walking down the hall ways lol, It was too much for me to handle and ever since I left my head aches have stopped, even if I wanted to go back I just can't because when my head hurts my vison goes blurry and I can't read my work properly, plus my school did too many drugs and I don't need to be around that kind of enviorment, it gets so crazy!

I feel better doing things I enjoy. Not everyone was ment to go all the way, some people are better off doing things there own way, just be careful when moving out because life is VERY hard out there doing things on your own, there was this thing on tv and like every 7 in 10 teens that left home came back because it was too hard to live on there own so fast, it says you should wait till your around 20 before you think about going on your own, of course it's your choice Alicia and wish you the most freaken best in life! :D

jennielynn1970
09-20-2007, 07:46 PM
Read the thread, I'm pretty sure I've already aswered like every question you have asked..


This thread wasn't made to ask people if I should stay or leave school so your still not on topic.

You know, the people you quoted weren't even being critical. Your negative attitude just shines through in this one... heaven forbid people offer suggestions because they do care about your future. That's what all this boils down to. People (strangers) who are worried about your future.

Most of us don't know you personally, so technically, there isn't a reason for us to care, but that's humanity... caring about the well-being of others even when we don't know them.

Yes, comments may come out critical or harsh, but sometimes when people feel strongly about things, opinions come out that way. I, for one, wasn't saying there is anything wrong with grooming... I was simply suggesting that you finish school since you're almost done.

moosmom
09-20-2007, 08:17 PM
You know, the people you quoted weren't even being critical. Your negative attitude just shines through in this one... heaven forbid people offer suggestions because they do care about your future. That's what all this boils down to. People (strangers) who are worried about your future.

Most of us don't know you personally, so technically, there isn't a reason for us to care, but that's humanity... caring about the well-being of others even when we don't know them.

Yes, comments may come out critical or harsh, but sometimes when people feel strongly about things, opinions come out that way. I, for one, wasn't saying there is anything wrong with grooming... I was simply suggesting that you finish school since you're almost done.

Thank you Jenn.

buttercup132
09-20-2007, 09:29 PM
Maybe if you are working as a cashier or waitress, something not needing a degree or diploma, your employer may not care what your GPA was in college. Or if your isn't a complete a** and you actually talk to them.


Why would someone want to hire a person who behaved like a slacker and didn't give a crap about their future I guess if their mind is set like yours they would. But most people understand that how you act in school and work is totally different. I rebel in school and am terrible at it but at work I enjoy it I'm motivated to do it and I understrand it (because I like it ). I would never dream of calling in sickl when I wasn't but with school I could care less if I missed a day for no reason.


I, for one, wasn't saying there is anything wrong with grooming No you didn't but the person I quoted did. And ya I'm fed up with that one poster because evry thread I make she comes in and talks to me like I'm stupid.


I would have if I hadn't been so behind I'm behind too. I have a math and a science to still get plus my other manditory courses.
And if I fail anymore that's more time in school.

CathyBogart
09-20-2007, 09:37 PM
Employers care about these things, you'd be foolish to think they didn't. Why would someone want to hire a person who behaved like a slacker and didn't give a crap about their future.

Since when does a person's behavior in school reflect their behavior in a professional setting?! My mom is an X-ray tech, she has never been asked about her GPA when applying for a job, the prospective employers are content with the degree. My dad is an engineer who builds space shuttles, same deal.

If HS is not for you, you should find something that IS and do that instead. I was inspired to leave HS partially by a teacher there who told me that leaving school was the best decision she ever made. The school option is ALWAYS available later if someone changes their mind. Why waste time doing something you are not going to excel at or enjoy if you don't have to!?

What does "most majors that matter" mean, anyways? They all matter.

BC_MoM
09-20-2007, 09:45 PM
Good luck with your "apprenteship".

:rolleyes:

Haven't you been told to STOP? You really need to get a life.

Scooter's Mom
09-20-2007, 10:04 PM
My opinion on this is that you should stay in school.

You will need the basics of a solid education in order to do the following:
a. create advertising for your grooming salon (if you ever branch out on your own, you MAY be responsible for designing your business cards, print ads, etc)
b. do basic inventory
c. do your basic accounting (along with payroll as well as taxes)

I say you may be responsible because a new company doesn't always have the funds to hire someone to do these things for them. It may take a year or two before your funds allow any 'extras' like someone to design your flyer, or a person to do your taxes.

I'm not judging you personally, but I have to say I am judgemental about certain things. If I see an ad or flyer that looks unprofessional, then I won't take my animals there. I assume that if a person cannot take the time to present themselves appropriately, then they don't want my business.

Please, stay in school. Education truly IS the key.

I don't claim to be perfect, I make typos often. I just know that without an education to fall back on, even the best laid plans can fail.

Shelteez2
09-20-2007, 10:05 PM
I finished high school, but to be quite honest with you I don't use anything from it. I hated it.

My boss dropped out of high school when she was 16 to be a dog groomer. Now she is one of the most well known groomers in Canada. She has been part of groom team Canada several times and has competed all over the world. She is also invited to judge competitions all over the world as well.

I think if this is something you want to do and you have the support of your parents then go for it. Good luck in whatever you decide.

DrKym
09-20-2007, 10:12 PM
My opinion on this is that you should stay in school.

You will need the basics of a solid education in order to do the following:
a. create advertising for your grooming salon (if you ever branch out on your own, you MAY be responsible for designing your business cards, print ads, etc)
b. do basic inventory
c. do your basic accounting (along with payroll as well as taxes)

I say you may be responsible because a new company doesn't always have the funds to hire someone to do these things for them. It may take a year or two before your funds allow any 'extras' like someone to design your flyer, or a person to do your taxes.

I'm not judging you personally, but I have to say I am judgemental about certain things. If I see an ad or flyer that looks unprofessional, then I won't take my animals there. I assume that if a person cannot take the time to present themselves appropriately, then they don't want my business.

Please, stay in school. Education truly IS the key.

I don't claim to be perfect, I make typos often. I just know that without an education to fall back on, even the best laid plans can fail.

I stayed off this thread ................but that was perfectly said.
BC You may think I am harsh on you but after 22 fosters and 6 kids of my own I do care. Please think this through. I could happily PM you with the triumphs and the tragedies. Please please give this much thought. You have less than 9 months I know you can do this. Then its over.You can later in life choose to pursue more education, or not.

I know for a fact my cocker goes to "just a HS grad" but the woman (31) is amazing with her and Goof adores her. I am not in any way making a statement over your career choice.......... I like many other dog owners need people like you that can handle and deal with our brats on a table. I also used grooming to put myself through college.

Please think this through hard. I know you feel I have been harsh, but I am really not, just want you to think......I do not talk to you any worse or any better than I did my own kids or my fosters.


Kym

CagneyDog
09-20-2007, 10:17 PM
I'm not sure I have any advice as only you can truly know what is best. However, I do wish you the best of luck.

Don't even give notice to the people that constantly attack you here.

dukedogsmom
09-20-2007, 10:22 PM
Knowing what I know and how much I hated school, too, I'd say go for what your heart tells you. There is such a thing as getting a GED for high school. If it doesn't work out, you can always go back. You have to do what feels right for you. But in doing that, you also have to have your future in mind. I have a responsible, well paying job. But I wouldn't have that without a high school degree and passing tests needed for college, in case my employer wants me to take new courses for my job. I just don't know why people have to be so inconsiderate here. The same people that make threads for support from us.

Scooter's Mom
09-20-2007, 10:31 PM
Just in case everyone is thinking I'm one of the inconsiderate folks - I gave my message a lot of thought before I made it. I truly think education is the key.

I wasn't trying to be inconsiderate and I apologize if my post came off sounding as such.

DrKym
09-20-2007, 10:34 PM
Just in case everyone is thinking I'm one of the inconsiderate folks - I gave my message a lot of thought before I made it. I truly think education is the key.

I wasn't trying to be inconsiderate and I apologize if my post came off sounding as such.


It didn't which is why I chose your post to agree with.

I think it shows a lot of thought and true caring

Scooter's Mom
09-20-2007, 10:49 PM
It didn't which is why I chose your post to agree with.

I think it shows a lot of thought and true caring

Thank you.

ramanth
09-20-2007, 10:52 PM
My aunt dropped out of school and moved to CA and married. She had no GED and no degree. She ended up with this great graphic arts job based on her skill alone.

A couple of years later, management changed and she was fired and a person with a degree was hired in her place. Had she had that piece of paper, she'd likely still have that great job.

Instead, to pay the bills, she ended up at a factory job. She has her horses that she always wanted, but she lives in constant pain from the factory job. Sometimes she can't even ride. Sad really.

If you feel you need to drop out, that's fine. But you should definitely get a GED or degree.

buttercup132
09-21-2007, 05:45 AM
a. create advertising for your grooming salon (if you ever branch out on your own, you MAY be responsible for designing your business cards, print ads, etc)
Don't need that as I already stated I will be walking into 200 clients and my boss will be sending dogs my way.


do your basic accounting (along with payroll as well as taxes)
I don't need pay roll as I'm not having anyone else work for me. Unless maybe my mom but she can get paid cash.

Someone said my boss shouldn't let me drop out. She did the same thing and was the same way in school. Now we can't even fit another dog in till the new year because we are so booked. People drive hours to come to our shop. Another groomer who I work with went to college and graduated that to be a travel agent. She hated it and came to work for us, thus waisting her time.

Scooter's Mom
09-21-2007, 07:42 AM
Don't need that as I already stated I will be walking into 200 clients and my boss will be sending dogs my way.

I don't need pay roll as I'm not having anyone else work for me. Unless maybe my mom but she can get paid cash.



You can't always plan on those 200 clients following you wherever you go. Something could happen down the line where you are not at that facility anymore and you need your own advertising. Everything in this world is not a certainty, sometimes you have to plan ahead.

Do you know that paying in cash is considered cheating the government, and you can get huge fines and penalties for that?

buttercup132
09-21-2007, 08:01 AM
I was talking to my naighbour and we do have GED's in Canada. Her husband took it last year so she also still has the book. She said I can read it, I just need to do that and go write the test and it's the same as getting my grade 12. So I can work and read that after.

Everyone who I actually know in person are all saying go for it and they are all adults. So I'm going for it.

Please don't post any "your going to regret it, you made the wrong desicion" comments cause I don't need to hear them. I'm going to be happy with what I'm doing so that's what matters to me.

Daisy and Delilah
09-21-2007, 08:27 AM
I've basically read this entire thread and I have to put my thoughts down.

Congratulations on the job. I think it's refreshing to see that you have such a great passion and a love for your job. That is an admirable quality in itself. So many people absolutely hate going to work every day in the world. It delights me to see that someone likes their job and strives to do their very best in it.

While my kids were going to school, I forbade them to even mention quitting to me. Consequently, they both graduated. My son, just barely, and, my daughter, with honors. Incidentally, my son was voted "Most Likely To Succeed" in his senior class. He hated school(still does)but has a million dollar brain. Today, my daughter is working on her Masters and my son doesn't even have an Associates degree. My son makes 3 times more money than my daughter because he followed his passions. My sister was a high school dropout, got her GED later and now has a Masters in teaching. She's taught school for 25 years.

Follow your heart and if necessary, education will come later. I'm pretty sure you'll further it if you need to.

Also: Lastly. I have to say that you seem to be getting pretty mature these days, Alicia. I for one, have noticed a big change in you. Good luck with your new job and everything you do. :)

CathyBogart
09-21-2007, 09:15 AM
Congratulations on the job, I think it's going to be a great thing for you. :)

buttercup132
09-21-2007, 12:36 PM
Thanks guys. I also wanted to say my mom talked to the school councler and she said it would be the best thing for me. She said it's not everybodys time right now to do high school and who says you have to do it at this time in your life. And another teacher told me she sees how much I hate school and hate being here and she said as long as I love my job and keep learning it's whats best for me.

Logan
09-21-2007, 01:47 PM
I started out working as a bather after high school. I'm a groomer now, I have been for a few years...I've been working there for 5 years now. It is a good job, I enjoy it, however, it is not a wage I can live by myself on. If I were married and there were two sources of income, it would be fine, but with just me I'll never be able to afford a house. That is why I'm going to college to get a degree and possibly earn a higher wage. Now its possible the wages are better where you are, and I know that I could actually make more money if I groomed more dogs...but I'm not willing to give up quality for quantity. Personally, I think you would be better to finish high school. There is always a need for groomers and you will be able to find another grooming job. But it's your life and your decision, good luck with whatever you decide.

I just want to say "Good for you", Amy, as I make my way through this post. You are being very realistic.

At this point in time, we are finding that our children need to be prepared not only graduate at the top of their high school class, finish 4 years of undergraduate work, but will probably need a master's degree, also, to really secure themselves in the long run. Is this unique to the south or is it something you all see in our future?

Logan
09-21-2007, 02:11 PM
By the way, Buttercup, I only wanted to respond to Amy's post while it was in front of me as I made my way through this.

Everyone's situation is different and I wish there was more technical training at the high school level for those people who have found their "gift" and want to push forward in that area. Where would we be in society if there weren't people who were well trained in auto repair, for example? Vocational schools are wonderful for that purpose, and the students still have that diploma when they are finished. I will tell you that I was expected to graduate from high school and college, and I did, and I have the same expectation for my daughter, who is a Junior in high school, but it is what she wants, too. She has enough credit hours to actually graduate from high school this year, if she wants to, but she doesn't, and I'm glad. I don't have an advanced degree, but life has been pretty good to me, through hard work, good connections and a good work ethic. I don't have an advanced degree and at this point in my life, 45 years old, I don't expect that I will ever get one, but I love what I do and am so grateful for the opportunities I have had. My husband has a four year degree from college and has completed his master's degree and his absolutely miserable in his current job situation. You never know where you will land and how things will pan out. I just know that having that high school degree and also my college degree, regardless of what I majored in, opened a lot of doors for me throughout my life. That's my only reason for saying to work hard now and make it happen and it will bring you rewards later, if you need them.

Everyone doesn't have to have a college degree. But I believe that obtaining a high school diploma is important. The drop out rate of high school students, here in SC just floors me at times. It was never in my frame of reference when I was a high school student. But, I went to a private school and that school now boasts a 100% graduation rate (as it did when I was a student there) and 100% of their students receive some sort of scholarship to college! Amazing statistics, huh?

I wish you the best of all things and a very happy life. That's what we all strive for and what we wish for the ones we care about.

Best intentions.

Logan

HorseDreamer101
09-21-2007, 03:25 PM
I think its a bad idea to drop out butter cup.
You'll never be able to go back to high school
and get a better job than being a goomer for
the rest of your life,stay in school!!!!

Catty1
09-21-2007, 03:35 PM
ok. Not just HorseDreamer, but I feel compelled to ask:

What is better than being a groomer? And why?

Being a lawyer is a better CAREER than I have right now, but it would be the worst for me, as I have no interest in or ability for it!

Also - I could make $2600+ US per month if I went back to being a ship musician, or one in an overseas hotel. But I now hate it and would never have the mental stamina for it.

Better pay does not mean better job. But I DO believe that people make the best money possible and have the best opportunities if they are doing something they truly love and have a great talent for.

That sums up BC's situation, IMO.

You go, girl!

(And yes, we DO have GED in Canada).

Flatcoatluver
09-21-2007, 03:46 PM
I agree with Catty, I work at a dog kennel and love it. For me I don't think there is a better job out there. My job may be low paying, but I would rather have a job I love, then one I hate.

Alicia only knows what is best for her, and she already made the decision. Good Luck, that sounds like a wonderful opportunity for you!

And btw my attitude at work is 100 times better then it was when I went to public school

Ginger's Mom
09-21-2007, 03:56 PM
What is better than being a groomer? And why?
I have avoided commenting because I think everyone's situation is unique, and at least Buttercup has talked to her counselors at school and gotten some feed back from other adults that know her. But I think this is a good question and one that goes to the heart of what many people are trying to express in different ways. The answer is, to someone who loves grooming, nothing is better than being a groomer. And to someone who loves playng football and is excellent at it nothing is better than playing football. And to someone who loves litagating and has a talent for it nothing is better than becoming a lawyer. BUT (you knew that was coming right?), what if that groomer develops arthritis and can't handle the instruments any more, what if the football player hurts his leg and can't play any more, what if the litagator has a medical problem that precludes him from sitting in a courtroom for long periods of time. They need other options. Having completed high school in a formal controlled setting shows a certain level of commitment and dependablity that a GED doesn't show. It gives that applicant an edge over applicants that have not shown that commitment. Is not having a high school dipolma a disadvantage that cannot be overcome? No it is not. But it is difficult, very difficult, and if you are forced to make a change from the only career and interest you have, it would help to not have extra barriers in your way.

Whisk_Luva
09-21-2007, 03:58 PM
I have avoided commenting because I think everyone's situation is unique, and at least Buttercup has talked to her counselors at school and gotten some feed back from other adults that know her. But I think this is a good question and one that goes to the heart of what many people are trying to express in different ways. The answer is, to someone who loves grooming, nothing is better than being a groomer. And to someone who loves playng football and is excellent at it nothing is better than playing football. And to someone who loves litagating and has a talent for it nothing is better than becoming a lawyer. BUT (you knew that was coming right?), what if that groomer develops arthritis and can't handle the instruments any more, what if the football player hurts his leg and can't play any more, what if the litagator has a medical problem that precludes him from sitting in a courtroom for long periods of time. They need other options. Having completed high school in a formal controlled setting shows a certain level of commitment and dependablity that a GED doesn't show. It gives that applicant an edge over applicants that have not shown that commitment. Is not having a high school dipolma a disadvantage that cannot be overcome? No it is not. But it is difficult, very difficult, and if you are forced to make a change from the only career and interest you have, it would help to not have extra barriers in your way.

Thats a good post :)

HorseDreamer101
09-21-2007, 04:15 PM
Im not saying its a bad job or anything
but maybe she could do her dream job that she wants to do
unless she really loves this job

buttercup132
09-21-2007, 05:14 PM
Horsedreamer read through the whole thread properly.
Your not even worth me explaining myself to.

Catty1
09-21-2007, 05:26 PM
BC - I do hope you are able to complete your GED in the fairly near future - within a couple of years.

As a prof of mine once said to a class I was in, it's not the piece of paper itself that is important. It shows that you finished something you started, and THAT is what shows through.

Ginger's Mom - I certainly do respect what you have said, that something can happen that keeps one from a career they love and have. At the same time, living a life of 'what-ifs' can be paralyzing.

I burned out of my one career - but I knew what else I was good at, and made the slow transfer into the "real" job world (as opposed to music on the road). I happen to have a high school diploma and a BA. However, my adaptability - and it was a bumpy process - was helped by my life and work experience in having to think on my feet. Believe me, when your music equipment goes missing in Caracas, and you have a fever and double ear infection and are going home, that quality gets really sharpened!

Good luck, BC! :)

Ginger's Mom
09-21-2007, 05:41 PM
Ginger's Mom - I certainly do respect what you have said, that something can happen that keeps one from a career they love and have. At the same time, living a life of 'what-ifs' can be paralyzing.
Or freeing. Please don't think I am trying to be argumentative, I am actually trying to say this in a lighthearted way. It can open you up to looking at the world with a whole lot of possibilities you hadn't thought about before. It doesn' have to be dark and bleak at all, but instead could be very empowering.

Alysser
09-21-2007, 05:52 PM
Alicia, I think you made the right decision based on what you wanted and that's wonderful! Congratulations on your job! :D

jennielynn1970
09-21-2007, 08:53 PM
Horsedreamer read through the whole thread properly.
Your not even worth me explaining myself to.

Wow... so polite.

You could have said it a bit more tactfully. I've been trying to phrase my thoughts in your post to be less negative and more constructive than critical. I think that goes for a lot of people responding on here. Yet, your responses are really rude.

If you want to have people respond to you with respect, you need to show some respect yourself.

I_luv_rusty
09-21-2007, 09:23 PM
You should do what you think is best, personally I won't drop out of highschool my senior year when you could just wait and graduate. But, I guess thats your choice. If you think you'll be fine without that HS diploma, and will never need it. I wish you luck in your grooming.