Plan B for Miley girl - she is gone now...RIP Sweetheart

[sasvermont]

After months of dealing with inappropriate pooping, my sweet cat Miley, has been confined to a cage for the time being. We are going on day #2. How appropriate!

After a little over 24 hours in the cage, she did use the litter box but she also used the throw rug and sleeping pad that I had on the bottom of the cage, to poop on....and then cover up......

I am exhausted from dealing with this issue. She had some good days, and then whammo, another gift for me. I also have been finding poop (dried) in places I would never have looked.

Miley has FIP (tested positive) a couple of years ago, and also has IBD. She is a candidate to surgery to have a section of her intestine removed, but not a good candidate since the FIP test was positive. The other post script to this concept of surgery, is that there is a good chance she will continue with the stool problems. She is taking prendisone in heavy doses and it is keeping the blood from appearing and her stool are a tad less liquid.

I have considered having her PTS. That sounds so cruel, but you have to live with this little girl to know how much confusion takes place in my house when she is pooping all over and hissing at the other cats, and fighting....and then more pooping....stresses me out beyond belief. I will wait until she exhibits signs of being in pain, to have her put down, and it appears that she is not right now. So, my vet suggested confining her. I bought a huge, huge cage, called a cat hotel and that is where she is right now.

Has anyone else here ever tried confining a cat? She seems to not mind it so far. I am afraid that once I let her out, she will never want to go back in to it! I have been feeding her in there, of course.

The fact that she missed the litter box yesterday, upsets me. I thought for sure she was being chased from the litter box by the other cats, but apparently not.

I am so frustrated now. And I was just giving out advice yesterday.

SAS

[Logan]

Sallyanne, I am so sorry that things have worked out this way for our Miley, who you know, we all love so much. :( Hopefully the new enclosure will offer her some reassurance and she will figure things out. I can't imagine what you are dealing with.

You and Miley will be in our prayers.

Logan

[Karen]

Awww, Sas, think of it at Miley's “private suite, with room service included” not as a jail cell. Give her some love from us, and tell her we hope she feels better.

[Barbara]

Sallyanne, I am sending big hugs for you and kisses for sweet Miley.
I know at least how it is to have her and poop all over the place and I hoped so much she would be better as it obviously stressed her to have us there.
I know that whatever solution you chose will be the most comfortable one and I also hope she can get the love she also needs so badly.
I am so sorry- Miley is such a lovely lovely girl.
You have to go through so much these years.

[sasvermont]

Thank you for your kind words.

I love my Miley girl so much. But, I also cannot have her pooping at will. Can you imagine that? I guess I will lower my standards and allow the pooping in the cage ??? until I cannot tolerate that. Right now she has only one blanket to sleep on (the shelves are carpeted)...... She has four shelves, one big one, where she sleeps and then the bottom of the cage, where her littler box resides. I hope she doesn't start with the shelves..... The smell is horrible.

I am sure I am not the first person to go through this, but gee, I surely feel like it! How can this be happening to such a sweet kitty? She loves me so and vice versa, but I just cannot have her pooping....well......you know the drill. Thanks for listening. I feel a tad better having told the world about my poopy cat, as I call her! :eek: :D

[emily_the_spoiled]

One of my guys was diagnosed with IBD last summer after similar problems to Miley. I don't know if it will help but I took him off all commerically prepared cat food and he was much better within a couple of weeks. It seems that the corn and the preservatives/colours were messing him up. We still have problems once in awhile but nothing like it was last year...

I am sorry that you are having all these problems with Miley

[Edwina's Secretary]

Oh Sas! I am so sorry to hear this about Miley. I have always heard (from a mutual friend or two... :D ;) ) what a very special girl she is.

Perhaps she will be happy with a smaller world. I hope so.

[Rachel]

This is such a sad scenerio and I realize it is torture for you as none of the solutions is very satisfactory for either you or Miley. Miley has always been a favorite of mine and I know of a specific difficult decision you had to make because of your need to protect and care for her. I am holding out hope that *these episodes will pass*. I don't know how long this has been going on already, but sometimes things do unexpectedly change for the better.

ETS's suggestion sounds like an excellent one to try.

[jenluckenbach]

I understand. Lucas did not have IBD, but for 9 months before we actually determined that he had cancer, the boy pooped on my rugs practically daily..............LIQUID DIARRHEA! We tried everything under the sun to help those poops firm up. :( but nothing worked. The clean-ups were horrendous. :eek: But I knew my boy and I knew that none if this was spiteful. He was sick and I forgave him everytime. But, I did place large plastic tarps on many of his favorite pooping spots, to help make clean up easier. (this would be the second time I "plastic-coated" my house for a cat. The first time was when Y.Lee had diabetes and could not hold his urine)

The point is.....we do what is necessary. Cleaning up a cage is going to be easier than cleaning up the whole house. And maybe a different type of diet will help her poops to firm up making it easier for her to go in the box.

[sasvermont]

No accidents in the cage today. She has only her one little blanket right now.

She and the others, are all on very, very expensive prescription diet. I have been feeding them all the same (can't hurt the healthy ones) .... and this is for Miley's problem only. She (they) are on Science diet hypoallergetic...XD...I think.....I may change them soon, and if Miley stays confined, she can have the expensive stuff.

I just don't know where this all is going to lead me. I am getting more used to seeing her in a cage. The whole concept creeps me out, as I think cats should be free to roam. I just don't know what else would work for me.

I already have the tarp thing going on for the bunnies, on the porch. Miley doesn't pick places to go, that are tarp friendly. She usually picks hardwood floors, which, for the most part, are easy to clean. I am just tired of cleaning up cat poop. And the smell...... at 3 AM, isn't the most fun.

Anyway, by this weekend, I will probably have come up with an updated Plan B, trying to find out how to get Miley back in the cage and using her litter box! Here's hoping! :confused:

[Pam]

Sallyanne I am so sorry. Sorry for both you and Miley. Miley girl has been a favorite of mine for years. This little girl has endured so much, losing brother Graemer and some very trying times for her when Ti was in residence. We all understand the need to try every option and are with you 100% of the way.



Has anyone else here ever tried confining a cat? She seems to not mind it so far. I am afraid that once I let her out, she will never want to go back in to it! I have been feeding her in there, of course.


I did accidentally confine Andy for a whole day in a dog crate. I feed Trevor and Andy separately because Trevor eats special food and is a fast eater. If I fed them together Trevor would eat both his and Andy's food. :rolleyes: I put Andy in a crate two times a day at feeding time. One morning I forgot to let him out and he spent more 8 hrs. in there. :o He never held it against me and did not hesitate to go back in.

(((hugs))) to you and Miley both.

[krazyaboutkatz]

Sallyanne, I'm sorry to hear about Miley's inappropriate pooping problem.:( I've also been dealing with this for quite some time with Starr. He's also on pred in the morning and pepcid ac in the evening. He's doing much better but still has his bad days. He has colitis and both of his small and large intestines are affected by food allergies. He's been on several different diets and is currently on Innova Evo dry which is almost like a raw diet but without being raw. He was also on the wet but had more problems with it over time.

Has Miley gained weight from being on the pred? Starr has and now he can barely clean his bottom area. I'm taking him to a holistic vet this Thurs. and I hope that she'll be able to help him and get him off of his meds. I may even start feeding him a raw diet. You might want to try giving Miley some pepcid ac at night to help calm her tummy. Starr is on the liquid kind and gets 5mg in the evening. It usually helps him to make it to the litterbox in time but he still has some accidents. I'm sure that over time Miley will get used to her cage. I hope that she'll continue to improve. Good luck.:)

[shais_mom]

I don't have any advice but I do hope that Miley will find comfort and peace in her new smaller world...

[Medusa]

No advice from me either; just want to lend my support. I feel for you and Miley.

[Bengalz]

Sallyanne,

You have been through so much with Miley in her life and this must seem terribly unfair on all sides. I hope the new arrangements work and are comfortable for that sweet little girl and that you are able to feel more relaxed with her condition. Please give Miley lots of hugs and kisses for me.

Also, many hugs to you dear lady for being such a great meowmie :)

[jazzcat]

I'm so sorry to hear the extent of Miley's problems. I never had a clue it was that bad. You have my sympathy and my support. I really wish I had some great advice but as you already know I can't even solve my kitty problems. I am very happy to hear there were no accidents yesterday. Sounds like this might work. Fingers crossed.

Ripley is a behavioral sprayer and shows us his discontent by peeing on things. He usually gets this way when we change something in the house like paint, flooring, drapes. Yes, he has marked all of those brand new things in his protest. Now being a kidney patient makes it even worse because he acts out when he feels bad. Well to add insult to injury he started having constant diarrhea and if he couldn't get to his "preferred" litter box he would just go in the dining room. :mad: Thank goodness my vet recommended Pro Plan Sensitive Skin and Stomach. As long as he eats that and nothing else, not even on tiny treat, he has regular poop. Now of course his thing is to go beside the box but he only does that out in the garage on the concrete so it's not a big deal. With all his other issues it's hard to deal with him and trust me when he is feeling grouchy, peeing and pooing inappropriately and just generally miserable which in turn makes the whole house miserable I have to really consider quality of life - he's over 15 years old. I hate to put it like that but it is the truth.

Anyway, I just wanted you to know I understand how you feel.

[Catty1]

I hope she continues to be accident-free. Is the allergic food the same as the gastro-intestinal?

If she is doing well on it, that is wonderful. During the tainted cat food tragedy, when I was reading every label everywhere, I was surprised that my vet presc food contained corn and other starch fillers. Just a thought if Miley's tummy troubles return (God forbid! :) )

Give her scritchies for me!

[Vermontcat]

I'm sorry to hear that Miley hasn't been feeling well.
Hopefully she will do better in a smaller space and the other campers will stop bugging her.
Give her some scritchies from me, I know she loves getting one on one attention.
Let me know if you want some company or if you want to send the other rowdy campers down here for a vacation. ;)

[sasvermont]

I think as long as she has nothing to poop on/in, other than a litter box, she will be fine. I cleaned her box this morning, fed her, etc. and she was content to be in the cage. She didn't even attempt an escape.

JuniRose was on the top of the cage when I left this morning. I have a blanket over the top, to prevent peeping kitties from putting their peeping paws in the cage to terrorize Miley.

So, hopefully, this confining will do the trick. I have been looking in to Prozac for kitties, too. I shall talk to my vet. Prozac is cheap these days, so it might be an alternative for me/us. We shall see.

Thanks for listening.

Sas and her Campers! :rolleyes:

[Barbara]

Good to hear that there were no accidents in two days and good to hear that Miley feels quiet and well. Anyway she is not VERY rambunctious for an Aby. Give her some kisses from me. I still can feel her raw little tongue on my arm ;)

[sasvermont]

So far so good. She is quiet and seems ok with the new arrangement. I don't know how long she can tolerate being held captive. She sleeps quite a bit, but then don't most cats? It sure has made my life easier, not worry about where to look for the next pile of poop.

:eek:

[neko1]

I am currently doing the same thing with my Aby Tama. He's been having quite a few problems which a few people here know about, but anyway, my last resort was to get a cage for him.

He has his blanket, catnip toy, food, water, and litterbox in there. I thought when I first put him in there that he would freak out crying and trying to get out but he loves it in there! Whenever I'm home I leave the cage door open for him to roam the house but he rarely comes out. When he does come out, sometimes he'll just perch himself on top of the cage.

Since he's been in there, he has stopped pooping and urinating on the floor. He is a spite pooper, I've been dealing with that for his entire life..sigh.

I still can't believe how much he likes it in there. When I come by to see him, he just purrs.

I think that maybe he likes it so much because to him, it's his 'safe spot'. Kinda like his own little room.

I'm sure it looks like I'm being mean to the cat, but it has solved a few problems (he's still got a LOT of problems I can't seem to fix) and he seems to not mind it, so I'm fine with it.

[sasvermont]

Neko, I am so happy you posted that. Maybe Miley is a spiteful pooper too? :rolleyes: I have spent so much money and energy trying to fix her problem and now it seems that you came up with the same solution. Isn't that odd? Maybe its an Aby thing? I remember Tama. I remember the problems you were having with his stools etc. Hmmmmmmm. I know some Abys do have intestinal issues.

Thanks so much for posting your message. I feel much less guilty now.

Actually, my vet suggested I confine her.

Thank you, thank you.
SAS

[Barbara]

Filou just says he is not happy with ot being considered an Aby thing. He says we are NOT spiteful ;)
But I am happy that Miley as well as Tama get along with it.

[sasvermont]

Dear Fiolou,

My Mom didn't mean to hurt your feelings so. She was referring to the intestinal problems and not to the spiteful comment about Abys. Everyone knows that Abys are all very different, as I have two Aby sisters and boy are they "different" :p :rolleyes: :eek: .

So please accept my Mom's apology for having made us all sound "alike" .... actually, we are all alike in some ways....but only the positive ways.

Love to hugs to you and your family,
Miley girl

[Randi]

Sas, I'm glad to hear the arrangements work well, and Miley seems happy. :) Perhaps after a while in there, she will not even consider pooping on the floor.

Best wishes and kisses to Miley. How old is she now?

[Pawla]

I had to confine Ellie. I dealt with issues for almost seventeen years with him. He was confined to the kitchen by a baby gate, and this worked really well for us. I would allow him out when I was home, but when I was at work or in bed, he was in the kitchen. Good luck, because I've been there and know the frustration this brings.

[Barbara]

Dearest Miley,
I agree with you. We are so different you can make a rule out of it.
Sending headbumpies with my little wooden head (that's what my mom says about it ;)) :cool:
Filou

[neko1]

And the funniest (well maybe that's not the right word) thing happened re: the pooping the other day. We left his cage door open during the day to see if he would 'roam free'.

That little stinker actually went over to Neko's litter box and pooped on the floor right in front of it!!!! (that was his usual poop on the floor spot)

Now when he's in his cage, he has no problems going to the bathroom in the litter box.

I've also found that he likes to eat in there too. I feed him and Neko together but Tama will only eat a few bites and then hops back in his cage. At that point I put his food dish in there and he gobbles it right up.

I'm glad I was able to make you feel better. I was so upset when I first decided to confine him- I felt like I wasn't doing the right thing, that I was a horrible person for doing this and that if I told anyone, they would think poorly of me. But with time, and since Tama seems to love it in there, I'm coming to grips with the fact that he may spend many years in there.

He's never given me any indication that he's upset or in distress over it.

[jenluckenbach]

I find this all so fascinating!!! I had to confine Sterling and Jim for a 2 week period while they were being retrained and starting on amitriptylin and Jim YOWLED 24/7 for 2 weeks straight! :eek: They each had a tall multi-level cage, but I never considered it large enough for a permanent solution. :confused:

But hearing how both Tama and Miley seem to accept and even LIKE their "home"...................well, let's just say I am VERY VERY glad that this is working for you both. :D :D

[Christiansmommy]

Sorry to hear about Miley girl :( I have a soft spot for her, she was Gabe's "adopted" sister after all!! :)

The only thing I can think of as far as her IBS, which I have no experience with, but I know when my kiddos and dogs have had upset tummy issues, there are certain foods that help to firm up the stool and that are gentle on their sensitive tummies. Pediatricians tell us to use the "BRAT" diet for upset stomachs/diarrhea...meaning, "Bananas, Rice, Applesauce and Toast"...now I know 3 out of the 4 things I just listed would never be consumed by a cat, but the rice is an option if you wanted to give it a shot...they make the powdered boxes of rice cereal in the baby food aisle. It's cheap too. Maybe you could try mixing some of that into some canned food? To thicken it up and try to firm up her poos. I am sure she would hate it just mixed with water, but maybe with some canned food, it would help get it into her system to firm things up? I don't know, maybe it won't help at all...but it's worth a try, right?

We all know you are a great cat mom, SAS...you will do everything you can for your sweet girl. (((HUGS))) though,I know it can't always be easy!!

Robyn

[sasvermont]

Well, tonight wiped out any progress we've made. She pooped several times in her cage and once right after I got home, while I was watching. She is out of control now. I will clean it all tonight, removing her into a different container for a short while. I will call the vet in the morning, to see if there is one last ditch medication that might help her. I am thinking Prozac. It's cheap and easy to come by. I have tried so many things, including a colonoscopy, resulting in her diagnosis of IBD. I don't think I am doing her any favors at this point. Maybe I will feel differently in the morning, when I talk to her vet.

This has turned out to be a bit more than I had planned on. I didn't know she could poop so much.

I don't think she is in pain, but it is so hard to tell with cats.

I am exhausted over this. :rolleyes:

[Pam]

I am very sorry Sallyanne - for you and for Miley girl. :( Let's hope the vet thinks Prozac might be the answer.

[jenluckenbach]

JMO, but when Lucas was diagnosed with cancer I did not believe he was in terrible pain, either, BUT.....having diarrhea almost constantly could NOT have been joyful. Thinking about how we humans often have bloating and cramps that go along with diarrhea, I just felt that Lucas must also be suffering, even if silently. With Lucas, the tumors were growing rapidly, and even though that was the majority of the basis for my decision on euthanasia, the toll the diarrhea was taking on his insides was also a consideration.

I realize Miley's problem is not that same, but I hope that my "logic" (such as it is) can help you through a difficult time.

[sasvermont]

Jen, I know that she is probably uncomfortable at best. When she is off the prendisone, she begins with the blood in her stools. She is on prendisone now keeping her out the the painful part of her diahrreah (sp) .... I just don't know ... I am torn..... Cats are so stoic.

Gosh, I thought the cage thing would work. There is no relationship between a cage and IBD. What was I thinking? What was my vet thinking? Is Miley trying to tell me something by going all over her cage while she is confined! I need to go to bed early tonight and deal with this tomorrow. She is breaking my heart right now.

I will let you guys know what I decide tomorrow. I don't even know if my vet has hours tomorrow. She is not in every Saturday.

Night all.

:(

[Karen]

Oh, Sas, you and your Miley-girl are in our prayers.

[Bengalz]

SAS,

So sorry to hear things are not progressing well with Miley. Your exhaustion and frustration are well warranted. Will keep you both in thoughts and prayers - all paws and claws are crossed for the best outcome.

Sleep well - you need some rest.

[Catty1]

SAS.

Two ideas:

Try the powdered rice mentioned in a post here.

Contact Nancy Efrusy for a reading. [email protected] She has done wonders here - and can figure out IF Miley is trying to tell you something.

Neko - maybe the same for Tama.

She doesn't even want money up front - a reading is $30 US - and all she needs is a pic of your cat.

It can't hurt - at this point, what is another $30 - and there just might be a wonderful result.

HUGS!

[ChrisH]

Oh, sas. :( http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CwmmawrJet/Smiles/console.gif Prayer and positive thoughts on the way for you and your Miley girl.

[Barbara]

Oh Sallyanne- I am sending hugs to you.
I am so sorry for Miley and you.
I am sure Miley cannot feel well.
Just don't know what to say.

[sasvermont]

The vet's office is closed today.

I went out and bought longer, and lower litter boxes with regular litter in them. I plan to cover the entire floor of the cage with the boxes. Right now there is only one box in the cage. I don't know if this will help, as she is "going" on the ramps and the other levels of the cage, just not on her sleeping blanket.

I will rethink this mess over the weekend and call the vet on Monday, assuming their office will be open then.

Thanks for listening.

:confused:

P. S. The fact that Miley has tested positive for FIP, makes treatment even trickier........Catty1, I have emailed Nancy. You are right. What the heck is another $30! Thanks for the suggestions folks.

[ramanth]

Oh SAS... :( :( I'm so sorry Miley is not well and causing so much stress.

If Miley has been "read" by Nancy before, she won't charge you for reading Miley again.

*HUGS*

[krazyaboutkatz]

I'm so sorry that she's not improving.:( I know that you're probably very tired of paying vet bills and not receiving the results that you would like. I feel your frustration because I've been going through a much similar situation with Starr.

I finally decided to take him to a holistic vet. Yes, she is expensive but so far it's been worth every penny. He has to be on a grain free diet which he's been on for a while but it's just not enough for him even with the pred. He's now on 3 different types of herbal supplements that I just mix in with his wet food and he loves it. I should notice an improvement in 7-10 days. The first day I gave him too much wet food so this caused him to have some diarrhea so I added some dry to it and spaced out his supplement mixture and today he's been fine. I can also tell that he's been feeling much better. I hope to be able to eventually wean him off the pred and all of the supplements too.

Here's a link if you'd be interested in finding a local holisitic vet : American Holisitic Vet Search (http://www.holisticvetlist.com/). Here's another link that may also help: Vet Locator (http://www.vetlocator.com/holisticandalternative.php?gclid=COGi3puv7o0CFRymY AodIDUFxQ). I searched these by typing in the words holistic vet list. I hope that something will be able to help poor Miley. Good luck.:)

[lizbud]

I am sure Miley cannot feel well.
Just don't know what to say.


If Miley doesn't have complete control of her bowels, I'm sure that it
stresses her as well.I have been following her story & was so hoping
Miley could be helped by just caging her.I thought it might lessen her
stress. I'm sorry you are going through this & hope the Vets can offer
more help for Miley.

[Rachel]

Prayers for Miley. :(

[Catty1]

KAK's Starr has really been helped by his supplements. I hope you get some help from Nancy...and maybe KAK can tell you what herbals Starr is on, as I suspect you are getting broke from the vet bills.

HUGS!

ETA: here is what KAK's holistic vet did for Starr:
Then we talked about Starr and how he's been sick his whole life. I took him out and she listened to his heart, took his pulse, and felt his tummy area. She said that his tummy area felt pretty good so the pred is helping to keep his inflammation down. Next she put some dry accupunture needles in him and then put him back in his carrier. She had already removed his pee pad and put in a clean towel. We talked a lot more and later Starr was so relaxed and calm that he rolled over and started acting goofy like he does with me at home. He even started purring and making biscuits. I've never seen him so relaxed in front of a stranger or in a strange place before. The accupunture needles are to help reduce inflammation of his intestional system and to help relieve stress.

She wants to see Starr in 2 weeks and he'll probably receive another accupunture treatment. He's also on 3 types of herbal supplements. One is called GI Encap and it's 60 pills which can be pulled open and the powder can be mixed with water or food and it's $15plus tax. The next one is Primal Defense Powder and this can also be mixed with water or food and it's 81 grams and cost $55plus tax. It's a probiotic formula. These two are very important for me to give him one pill and one scoop daily. I can give it to him all at once or split the dose up over the day.

The third one is called Feline Basic Nutrients and it's basically vitamins. It's 60 pills for $15 plus tax and I give him 1 a day. I can also pull the pill apart and mix the powder in water or food. It's not as important as the first 2 so if he won't take it then I can start giving it to him later on. I should hopefully notice an improvement in 7-10 days. I'll still continue giving him the pred but will later be weaning him off of this. I'll also stop the pepcid ac. She said that later on he'll only need the Primal Defense Powder daily and then I should be able to give it to him less often and hopefully taper him off of it completely.

Another thing is that Starr needs a grain free diet. Right now he's on one which is Innova Evo and she said I could keep him on this and he should improve again with these extra supplements. I can also look into other grain free dry and wet foods and raw diet powders and foods as well. She feeds her cat's raw diets but some of them don't like certain ones.

[sasvermont]

I am not one to change my mind about much......or my opinion.....but this Miley thing has me soooo torn. I keep thinking and re-thinking this situation over and over and over......

Nancy is going to contact some time soon, and I hope she can "read" what's on Miley's mind.

Today, I was super cleaning the one room that Miley decided should be the substitute for the litter box, and there was even urine (wonder why I didn't smell it?) on blankets that were on the floor, near the bed that she went under....... Granted, one of the other cats could have done that damage, but somehow, I think it was Miley. I have never caught the other cats doing anything outside the litter box. Miley I have caught many times. I will never know. It just adds insult to injury. Needless to say, the washer and dryer have gotten a work out today.

So, it has been one week for Miley in the cage. She has made no attempt to get out even when I open the door. This seems so abnormal to me. She seems to understand. Is this any life for a cat?

KK, what it the brand of herbal thingies you are giving Starr? I think I may have seen them on the internet.

My concern is that Miley considers this outside the box thing, normal now.

I wish someone would offer to resolve this problem for us. It is driving me nuts. Someone needs to put ME out of MY MISERY! Poor Miley girl. I hope she understands how confused I am.

I will admit, Miley is being sweet. She is also still pooping all over the cage.

I am so mixed up.

[Catty1]

SAS - I posted what Starr is getting in a quote, but you'll be able to get more information directly from her - Starr has improved already.

I wonder if, at this point, Miley needs re-training in the box? Not sure how to go about it...unless you put some Cat Attract litter on the top of the regular stuff.

HUGS!

[krazyaboutkatz]

SAS, the brands are Thorne Veterinary for the Feline Basic Nutients pills, Thorne Research for the GI-Encap pills, and Garden Of Life for the Primal Defense powder. I hope that this helps.:) Starr is very picky when it comes to taking any kind of medication. So far he doesn't mind me putting this herbal mixture into his wet food. I also add a little dry to it. I give him half of it in the morning and the other half at night. I haven't even had to give him his pepcid ac for the last 2 nights.:)

I sure hope that there's something that will help your Miley girl. I know that all cats are different so what works for one cat may not work for another cat. I would try to start her on a grain free diet though and see if this will help her. Good luck. She'll continue to remain in my thoughts and prayers.

Edit: Here's a link to a website that a lady gave Starr's foster mom. It contains a lot of good information Feline Instincts (http://www.felineinstincts.com/index.html).

[sasvermont]

Oh my it was peaceful. She was in my arms, purring as I stroked her furry little body. No more pain for my Miley girl. No more cages or pooping all the time. She is at peace. I hope she runs in to her brother, Graemer, and buddy Gabe. My heart is broken, but I must admit, she went before she was in desperate shape. I hope I have that opportunity.

Off she goes, to RB.

My heart is broken, and I have enough life left to enjoy my other three buddies.

[lizbud]

I am so sorry SAS. :( May Miley be at peace now. Run free at Rainbow
Bridge sweet girl.

[jenluckenbach]

RIP Miley. You can be healthy again at the RB. And I KNOW that you will find your buddies and continue to look after your mewomie from above.

{{{{{{{{SAS}}}}}}}}

[phesina]

Rest in peace, Miley. My deepest sympathy to all who love her.

Pat

[Christiansmommy]

SAS, I am having a hard time typing this, as tears are in the way :( I know how you loved her so. I have enjoyed getting to know her over the years, your crew has always had a special place in my heart...and so does their mom.

The thoughts of her, being at the bridge with Grammy Crackers, is bitter sweet, in that she isn't with you anymore, but Graemer has his sister now, and they are both healthy. I hope Gabe didn't bother her too much, lol :) I am smiling now, as I think of the reunion between those 2 Abys. But many hugs to you Sallyanne. You have my email, if you need to write. I would love to hear about her, if you need or want to. She was a special girl.

My love to you and your campers. You did the right thing, I am just sorry that is has to be so hard on us humans.

Sleep well tonight,Sallyanne....Miley is safe and sound with her brother by her side.

love, Robyn


Oh my it was peaceful. She was in my arms, purring as I stroked her furry little body. No more pain for my Miley girl. No more cages or pooping all the time. She is at peace. I hope she runs in to her brother, Graemer, and buddy Gabe. My heart is broken, but I must admit, she went before she was in desperate shape. I hope I have that opportunity.

Off she goes, to RB.

My heart is broken, and I have enough life left to enjoy my other three buddies.

[anna_66]

SAS, although I haven't posted I have been reading this thread and am very sorry to hear that your Miley girl has went to the bridge:(

You'll be in my thoughts and prayers.

[Christiansmommy]

I found this online...you had to make a hard decision, but Miley needed you to be strong enough to make it...so I thought this was appropriate, coming from your sweet girl :)

May I Go Now?

May I go now?
Do you think the time is right?
May I say goodbye to pain filled days
and endless lonely nights?
I've lived my life and done my best,
an example tried to be.
So can I take that step beyond
and set my spirit free?

I didn't want to go at first,
I fought with all my might.
But something seems to draw me now
to a warm and loving light.
I want to go
I really do.
It's difficult to stay.

But I will try as best I can
to live just one more day.
To give you time to care for me
and share your love and fears.
I know you're sad and afraid,
because I see your tears.

I'll not be far,
I promise that, and hope you'll always know
that my spirit will be close to you
wherever you may go.
Thank you so for loving me.
You know I love you too,
that's why it's hard to say goodbye
and end this life with you.

So hold me now just one more time
and let me hear you say,
because you care so much for me,
you'll let me go today.

- Written for a beloved pet & friend, by Susan A. Jackson

[Medusa]

I'm so sorry about Miley. May you both find peace.

[Pam]

((((Sallyanne)))) I feel like I have lost one of my own. I know that your heart is broken tonight and I send my heartfelt condolences to you. I am glad you were with her at the end and that her passing was gentle. More ((((hugs))).

[Logan]

Sallyanne, I will head to bed tonight with you and Miley at the forefront of my thoughts, and prayers. :( I'm so sorry it came to this for you. But thank you for putting Miley first and giving her a dignified escape from whatever it was that had taken over her little body.

Logan

[Edwina's Secretary]

Miley....godspeed little girl.

SAS...my heart breaks for the difficult decision you had to make but I know that you did it with the very best in mind for Miley.

My thoughts are with you....

[Karen]

Rest in peace, Miley dear
Mischeif awaits at the Rainbow Bridge
There your coat will gleam again in
The miles and miles of sunshiney fields
And sleek and healthy and strong again you will be
Posing, as you often did, like perfect cat statue
Just awaiting admiration
Well, you'll have it always
And too, a place in your momma's heart
Where there's always room for another friend
And no one crowded out
And no one is unhappy
Curl up there and purr to her in your dreams
And chase butterflies of all the colors
There at the Rainbow Bridge.

[zippy-kat]

{{Many prayers for you and the other campers.}}

Rest sweetly, Miley, rest sweetly.

[shais_mom]

Lots of thoughts and prayers on the way for you and the campers. Godspeed Miley....

[krazyaboutkatz]

Sallyanne, I'm so sorry to hear this sad news.:( Now Miley is healthy and playing like a kitten again with her brother Graemer and step brother Gabe. RIP sweet girl.:(

[Killearn Kitties]

I'm so very sorry to hear that little Miley-girl had to go. How absolutely heartbreaking for you, but I am pleased it was a peaceful passing for her. You are all in my thoughts.

[ChrisH]

sas, I am so sorry. :( {{hugs}}

[Randi]

Sallyanne, I'm so sorry it was time for Miley to go to the RB. :( I know you have done all you could for her, and I'm glad she went peacefully. Hope that will be a comfort for you.

Graemer and Gabe will be waiting at the RB, and they will have new adventures. :)

Rest in Peace sweet Miley!

((((hugs))))

[moosmom]

Sallyanne,

I'm so sorry you had to make such a difficult decision about Miley. But it was one you made with a heavy heart and in Miley's best interest.

She's in a better place now. RIP and Godspeed sweet Miley.

(((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))) to you my dear friend, Sas.

[catlover4ever]

SAS, I'm so sorry. :( (((HUGS)))

RIP Sweet Miley
Play hard at the RB, you have many friends to greet you.

[Cinder & Smoke]

Sorry I didn't see the change in the title, SAS. :(

Oh GOSH!

So Very, Very Sorry that you've lost Miley ...

Have a Safe & Gentle Trip to the Bridge, Dear Miley ...
The Campers are gathering 'round the Campfire in salute to their missing Buddy.

{{{Hugs}}} to Momma SAS - know that you fought well for Miley.

/s/ :( Phred

[Donnaj4962]

I haven't been online much the past few days, and am just now seeing this. SAS... I am so very sorry for your Miley girl. I know how you were struggling with everything.

RIP sweet baby girl, and play hard at the RB.

[smokey the elder]

I'm so sorry it didn't work out with Miley.

[sasvermont]

My eyes won't stop leaking tears. I will get past this phase, I am sure.

Last night the other three cats slept with me. It was nice. I think they "got it" that Miley was not at home. I am sure they could tell by my behavior, that something went wrong for me.

I know deep down in my heart that Miley was at peace when she left this world. The last two things she felt and heard were my touch and my voice. She was purring up a storm. Then she fell asleep, in my arms. I didn't cry while holding her as I was too busy comforting her and telling her how she was my special girl, my Miley girl.

[Cataholic]

My heart breaks with you, for you and Miley, and for those of us that loved her. RIP, sweet girl.

[jazzcat]

I'm so sorry. My heart just sank when I saw this thread was moved to the memorial board.

Rest in Peace sweet Miley.

SAS, you are in my thoughts and prayers.

[Rachel]

I know deep down in my heart that Miley was at peace when she left this world. The last two things she felt and heard were my touch and my voice. She was purring up a storm. Then she fell asleep, in my arms. I didn't cry while holding her as I was too busy comforting her and telling her how she was my special girl, my Miley girl.


SAS, you cared for her this time as you've always cared for her - in the very best way humanly possible. How you managed this one last bit of strength for her is beyond my comprehension, but you did it. I'm sure I would have folded in a heap on the floor.

SAS, as you might know, I have not had a cat since childhood. Miley has been my *dream cat* here at PT, a beauty beyond words in appearance and attitute. I've loved hearing about her and seeing her pictures and yes, worrying about her on occasion. Of all your animals, I have a suspicion that Miley was most a part of who you are. The poem that Robyn posted seems to be Miley's way of speaking to you. As our animals pass, it is my belief they find a way to speak to their humans and I have such a strong feeling that Miley chose Robyn to find this poem for her.

Please know that we here realize how hard this is for you and tears for Miley will be shed in many places today.

[Kirsten]

OMG, I just saw this, and I'm so sorry!!! What has happened? Was it her FIP that eventually took over? I'm so very sorry, especially as your last days together were so stressful.

She's painfree now, and without suffering.

R.I.P. Miley Girl!

Kirsten

[RedHedd]

LES here. My heart goes out to you and I'm sure Captain Mishi is giving Miley a wonderful greeting at the Bridge. It's a hard decision to make, but it sounds like she went peacefully in your arms, as my Mishi did :(

[Catty1]

I was hurt and crying too much to post yesterday...this reminded me so much of what my Mom went through with Pyka recently.

I looked up the past posts on Miley, as I didn't know much about her...I read about Gramer and Gabe...I hope they are all grooming each other right now. :)

I also realised that Miley had had trouble when she was under a year old, I think? And she was about four years old? That is a long time for a kitty to suffer, no matter how brave and cute she is.

{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}

[Barbara]

Sallyanne- hugs and hugs for you.
I am so sorry. I am so glad I came and could give Miley girl kisses just two months ago. I loved her so much. And I am sending some tears for Graemer as well. These two have been the cutest siblings ever, the sweetest.
I am so sorry they had to leave so fast.

[Freedom]

Hugs for you, and happy prayers for Miley at the rainbow bridge.

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

SAS, I am shocked and saddened to hear about Miley girl. :(

I haven't had a chance to check in lately, so I missed the beginning of this thread and the fact that things had gotten so bad with her. I agree that cats are so stoic and don't show if they are in pain or not, and all we can do is what we think is best. {{{hugs}}} to you and the three remaining campers.

Miley, I'm sure you've found Graemer and Gabe by now, so frolic freely, you will be missed. :( :(

[Logan]

Sallyanne, today I have been thinking about you and your heart, knowing that Miley was already in a happy place, surrounded by old and new friends. I'm happy to know that the other 3 surrounded you with love last night. That is so important when we are grieving. I have been in your shoes so many times in the last two years. And I know you have experienced too much loss, yourself, in the same time frame. :(

Please reach out if you need some support. I am here for you and I know so many others are, too.

I hope that Miley and Mimi are getting to know each other, Sallyanne. And my Lilly was a lover of kitties and she is bound to provide a safe place for them to cuddle up, too.

Logan

[emily_the_spoiled]

I am so very sorry for you. I know that it was a very hard decision for you, but Miley is now happy and healthy chasing and grooming others at the RB. When the time comes you will meet again...

[wolflady]

SAS, I'm very sorry to read of this news. :( Miley was indeed a very special little girl. Although I may not post much, I have been reading about your kitties since I first came to PT, and have followed your stories of them through the years. Miley is now with her brother and adtoped brother now, and that is a comforting thought. I really believe her passing was peaceful, with you there being strong for her in her last moments. We are all here for you and your newest angel across the bridge.

Rest peacefully, Miley. :(

**hugs**

[Nomilynn]

SAS,

I don't post much anymore but I do read and I didn't realise that Miley wasn't well.

My heart goes out to you. You were always such a support to me with all the trials I went though with Bassett, and I know that you would only do what was best for Miley.

Maybe Bassett will be nice enough to show Miley around up there. Bassett loved to pee on everything so perhaps they will gang up and leave heavenly deposits and giggle about it in kitty speak. At least I'd like to think so.

You are in my prayers,
Naomi

[AbbyMom]

I am so sorry. RIP Miley.

[Bengalz]

Sallyanne,

I was so sad to hear that you've had to make that final tough decision for Miley and yet relieved that her passing was peaceful. She is a dear little soul whose time was too short. Rest in peace little Miley and let your mommy know you're alright now.

You are in my thoughts, Betty

[Vermontcat]

Sallyanne, I am so sorry to hear that sweet Miley girl is now at the Rainbow Bridge. :(
I know she had been sick for a while and that you did absolutely everything you could for her to try to make her well again.
I'm really going to miss her, she was such a beautiful and special Aby girl.
I'm glad that I was lucky enough to meet her several times in person.
I hope you don't mind if I post a few photos of Miley from the last time I visited you in the spring.

Miss Mad Miley on the counter.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/vtcat/pets/mileycounter.jpg

Miss Monkey Miley on top of the cabinets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/vtcat/pets/mileycabinet.jpg

Sweet Snuggly Miley on your shoulder.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/vtcat/pets/mileyonsas.jpg
(I was thrilled when she also snuggled on my shoulder and purred in my ear during that visit.) :)

Pretty Miley in the sunny window.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/vtcat/pets/mileywindow.jpg

I'm sure she's enjoying the company of her brothers Graemer and Gabe up at the RB now.
Sending hugs your way.
Let me know if there is anything I can do for you.

[catmandu]

I was having Kicking Shrimps on the Patio at Tony Romas with the Pet Angels and suddenly I was aware that a New Angel had joined and The Pet Angels had served her a platter of shrimp and ribs.
I know My Meowmie is sad but I have My Wings now and am not in pain anymoe. And these other Pet Angels tell me that we are going great places and having a lot of great meals like this. I am going to remember this palce as this is the First Place I will take My Dear Mewomie.
One Fine Day.

[phesina]

Thank you for posting the pictures, Vermontcat. What an utterly beautiful girl Miley was!

Pat

[jennielynn1970]

I'm so sorry to hear that Miley has gone to the Bridge so soon. Big hugs to you and your three other campers. She is now healthy and not hurting any longer.

Play hard at the Bridge, Miley girl!

[catland]

I'm so sorry to hear about Miley. I know she brought you so much joy. She was probably one of the first PT kitties that I really fell in love with. Her attitude, her ability to climb in high places, and all the joy she brought you.

rest in peace dear sweet Miley. Say hello to all of the other PT kitties that are at the bridge that all of us miss so much.

[Russian Blue]

SAS,

I don't post much anymore but I do read and I didn't realise that Miley wasn't well. ....My heart goes out to you.

Sallyanne, I'm also not around much these days, since Nakita passed in January. My heart is also trying to find its way in this world without Nakita, as I'm sure it will be awhile for you as well.

I have no words to make it right, but I do have sympathy and can share the loss. Catland summarized it best:


rest in peace dear sweet Miley. Say hello to all of the other PT kitties that are at the bridge that all of us miss so much.

[rg_girlca]

Oh Sas, I am so so sorry to hear about Miley. She was such a beautiful little Aby girl.

I pray and hope that you find comfort and peace in the beautiful memories you made together.

Rest in Peace sweet Miley.

{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}

[kimlovescats]

SAS, I am so very sorry to hear about your Miley Girl! Sending my love and hugs your way!

Kim :(

[loveallfurryfriends]

RIP Miley!!

[kitten645]

Oh sas I'm so sorry. Here I thought maybe we'd both found a solution to our pooers. I'm so sorry I missed this chapter. Makes me really consider what's best for smudge too. Miley couldn't have asked for a better Meowmie and a fuller life. Sometimes it's just not fair. Wouldn't it be lovely if they all went peacefully in their sleep without leaving the heavy burden of the decision to us? Many hugs to you and your three.
Kitten :(

[sirrahbed]

oh Sallyanne - I am so sorry to read all of this. I remember reading of Miley's awful situation early this month. Folks here have said such comforting things. I loved the poem that Robyn posted.

I guess most all of us think back to when we said goodbye to a special pet - or look ahead with fear and dread that we may one day have to make the same decision at some future time. My thoughts go back ten years to the day I did the same with my very closest kitty, Bert. I still cry now and then after all this time. But, a very special memory I like to recall is the moments I held and comforted Bert as he left. That memory now feels so good and I am glad that I have that to look back on. Now I can remember him and feel so peaceful myself. Being able to die while being near and comforted by someone who loves us is also something I would hope to experience myself - as you stated.

I am glad you had PT to share your experience with Miley. I think it helps all of us.

It has been about two weeks now. I wonder how you are feeling? I wonder how the other kitties are doing? I hope you can come to this thread over and over for some smiles, Sallyanne. (((HUGS)))

[ramanth]

SAS, I'm so sorry to be finding this now. :( It was your thread in the dog house that alerted me. RIP sweet Aby Miley. You are missed more than you'll ever know.

*hugs*

[moosmom]

Sas,

I'm so sorry to hear of Miley's passing. She was a beautiful, loving cat and was very lucky to have you in her life.

(((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))

[sasvermont]

I am ok with Miley not being here. I miss her love, for sure! I do not miss the kitty poop all over the house. She is no longer in discomfort and is no longer having to live in a cage or is no longer getting yelled at for inappropriate pooping.

I know it was the right decision - it was difficult. She left purring. I am still sad about the decision and I will be for some time. I have three other kitties to keep me company and to comfort me!

Now Miley is with her brother, Graemer and her friend Gabe.

[loveallfurryfriends]

I just saw her pics. She was beautiful.