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king2005
06-20-2007, 03:06 PM
I don't even know where to start, my Anxiety is trying to kill me right now.

Remember when I said I caught Chad in a whole wack of lied... Well he tried to give me more BS lies & well I calmly snapped & called him on them all... He hasn't tried to really defend his lies...

But today he is claiming that nothing of mine is in the storage unit or the apt!

I have access to the storage until, as my name is on it (not owner, but I have full access).. & the landlord gave all 3 of us to move into that Apt.. so I know I'll get my things...

Its just I soooo didn't need this...

My spider has a place to go, but so far my fish & turtle are homless along with me...

I have NO idea what I'm going to do with my fish... I'm trying to get a hold of friends, but they are still at work.

I know myself will be ok & I'll have many random places to safely sleep... But my pets come first, as they always have!

If ANYONE in the GTA can take in my Fish for a while, PLEASE PLEASE let me know!! If your further away I'll try to get there, but my funds are soo short :(

I'm opening a storage unit, & I'm putting everything I own into that... I'm packing some clothing into one of my bags & all my toiltrees... So I can still be clean & ready for work.

If worse comes to worse, I have a car to keep me safe, but I know non of my friends will have that, so I'm not worried at all.

Since I'm not paying for rent this month I have 400.00 to work with... But I cannot do much as I just went bankrupt, so I don't know what my limits are... I'm going to TRY to rent a van, but I'm just under 25 & I think thats posses an issue

sparks19
06-20-2007, 03:10 PM
Oh Gosh I'm so sorry you are dealing with this :( I wish there was something I could do to help you

king2005
06-20-2007, 03:14 PM
Oh Gosh I'm so sorry you are dealing with this :( I wish there was something I could do to help you

PT prayers will be good enough... I've seen those work in the past... Just not sure how well they work when rushed

sweetpatata6
06-20-2007, 03:15 PM
I'm sooooo sorry to hear this! Yes, friends do come in handy in a time like this, and my suggestion would be to try and take it easy ((if your not busy)) and get most of your things, get situated, and if you have extra time, or just feel as if you need to chill, go to a park and either think about many possibilities of what you can do, or to think of something else totally off topic to get some release.

Your in my prayers, and I'm positive a bunch of other PTers too.

Please keep us posted.

*HUGS!* ((take as many as you need))

DrKym
06-20-2007, 03:17 PM
Jess you have my prayers.

JenBKR
06-20-2007, 03:36 PM
Oh no how terrible! I've been busy as work so not able to get online quite as much as usual, so I haven't had a chance to hear about this yet. You are in my prayers, I wish there was more I could do. Is your name on the lease? Did he kick you out? What happened exactly?

Alysser
06-20-2007, 04:09 PM
Im sorry this is happening to you! I'll be praying for you!

lizbud
06-20-2007, 04:47 PM
I'm sorry you're having such a bad time. :( What about Bear? Will she
be able to stay?

Karen
06-20-2007, 04:55 PM
I hope he calms down, and you two can work things out so that you can safely move. You will be in our prayers.

sparks19
06-20-2007, 04:58 PM
Well you definitely have my prayers and best wishes.

Logan
06-20-2007, 05:07 PM
Jess, you will be in my prayers. Hope you can work it all out for you and your pets. I wish I were closer and I would try to help you.

Logan

king2005
06-20-2007, 06:23 PM
I don't know where Bear is.. I had to break into my own house.. She wasn't here when I got here... I'll be calling the shelter to make sure she wasn't dumpped there

I_luv_rusty
06-20-2007, 06:35 PM
Omg, i'm so sorry he is doing this to you. :( I hope Bear is okay.

Kalei
06-20-2007, 06:54 PM
All of my prayers on the way that something very good happens soon for you. I'm so sorry you are going through this:( but I know if we all pray, god will find a way for you:)

joycenalex
06-20-2007, 08:00 PM
prayers and best wishes for you and for bear

Catty1
06-20-2007, 08:03 PM
I hope you get in touch with the landlord and find out what your rights are...at least he could go with you, with a key...

I wonder what Andrew will do? It's pretty obvious who should be kicked out here.

At least talk to your landlord.

HUGS and prayers!

crow_noir
06-21-2007, 12:38 AM
OMG!!! This is horrible! :eek: :( :mad:

* H U G S *

If you lived near me I'd offer you to stay here for a month. We don't have much physical room but my heart is big.

My prayers are with you and all of your pets. And OMGosh I am so worried about Bear.

king2005
06-21-2007, 08:16 AM
The PT prayers are working! Keep them coming! I had some good luck last ngiht :)

I went to Public Storage & opened a 10x10 to store my things. Sadly I do not have access to Chad's unit so he ownes all that stuff in the eyes of Public Storage. :(

I picked up Dan & James after I opened my unit & drove to my place. Chad wasn't home so I went to open the door... The outside door was locked. That was an easy fix, I knocked at the door of the deople upstairs. they let me in like always... Soon learned that the apt. door was locked. That was an even easier fix... I pulled out a card & slid it into the broken part of the molding that Chad broke when we moved in cause we didn't have any keys.

I took all my $$ things... I took my computer, antique horse statue, coin collection & filled my 2 duffel bags with clothing for work & daily life, & took all my stuffies.

I had no place to put my pets last night, so I left them there as they would be safe as Chad cannot lock me out :p

I spent the night at Reno's last night.. I might be able to stay there for the next 2 months. Axle will fit in that room with me, but I still need to find a place for my for large fish... no one has that much space :(

JenBKR
06-21-2007, 08:27 AM
Oh Jess, I am so relieved that you at least have a place to stay now. After all you have done for Chad, I just can't believe he's turning on you like this. Thank goodness you were able to get a lot of your things out. Did you ever find Bear?

king2005
06-21-2007, 08:36 AM
Oh Jess, I am so relieved that you at least have a place to stay now. After all you have done for Chad, I just can't believe he's turning on you like this. Thank goodness you were able to get a lot of your things out. Did you ever find Bear?

No, no Bear :(

I checked the dogs on the Toronto HS & shes not there & its updated every 2hrs... They were closed yesterday so I couldn't do much.

Even if I get ownership of Bear, I'm still homeless, so I don't know what to do :(

I_luv_rusty
06-21-2007, 08:41 AM
Well you do have a place to stay now, so thats something. Hopefully out PT prayers will work and you'll find a place for your fish to stay. You said "even if I get ownership of bear", who owns him you or Chad? Or do you both own him, and Chad says he does? We'll keep the PT prayers going for you....

sweetpatata6
06-21-2007, 09:03 AM
No, no Bear :(

I checked the dogs on the Toronto HS & shes not there & its updated every 2hrs... They were closed yesterday so I couldn't do much.

Even if I get ownership of Bear, I'm still homeless, so I don't know what to do :(


At least you didn't have to pay rent this month... I'm keeping up my prayers and that bear will be found. I'm trying to think up a solution to your fish tank, or at least a temporary one.

Best hopes and wishes going your way! Glad to hear things are ((Starting)) to get ((a little)) better

king2005
06-21-2007, 09:14 AM
At least you didn't have to pay rent this month... I'm keeping up my prayers and that bear will be found. I'm trying to think up a solution to your fish tank, or at least a temporary one.

Best hopes and wishes going your way! Glad to hear things are ((Starting)) to get ((a little)) better

Thank You... I'm thinking of putting Mango's tank into storage & keeping him in a Tote. It'll be much small then hes use to, but it'll be a safe place for him & I'll be able to transport him anywhere I go...

I moved both Mango (fish) & Axle(turtle) 500km from Ottawa to Mississaugam so I know how to do it safely & I love them dearly... I never give up on my pets... I would just rather NOT put Mango into a tote, as it'll suck for him for a couple months, as it will for Axle... but I will be able to insure proper care & feedings. (I'm soooooooooooooooooooooo picky on feedings)

Hellow
06-21-2007, 09:18 AM
Who is Chad, someone that you are related to or your landlord?

sweetpatata6
06-21-2007, 09:20 AM
Thank You... I'm thinking of putting Mango's tank into storage & keeping him in a Tote. It'll be much small then hes use to, but it'll be a safe place for him & I'll be able to transport him anywhere I go...

I moved both Mango (fish) & Axle(turtle) 500km from Ottawa to Mississaugam so I know how to do it safely & I love them dearly... I never give up on my pets... I would just rather NOT put Mango into a tote, as it'll suck for him for a couple months, as it will for Mango... but I will be able to insure proper care & feedings. (I'm soooooooooooooooooooooo picky on feedings)


Well, at least you have the good feeling of knowing that they're being well cared for!! And there's only a few friends I trust with my pets when I'm away.

king2005
06-21-2007, 09:22 AM
Who is Chad, someone that you are related to or your landlord?

Chad is someone who I have lived with since Oct. He was my best friend, but went ubber nutty since Dec & now hes totally lost his mind!!

king2005
06-21-2007, 09:28 AM
Well, at least you have the good feeling of knowing that they're being well cared for!! And there's only a few friends I trust with my pets when I'm away.

My pets are easy to care for & I told everyone, they just need a place to stay & I can come in once a week to feed, etc...

Lilly has a great home right now. I have NO worries leaving her in this persons full care, as Lilly needs water daily.

sweetpatata6
06-21-2007, 09:35 AM
My pets are easy to care for & I told everyone, they just need a place to stay & I can come in once a week to feed, etc...

Lilly has a great home right now. I have NO worries leaving her in this persons full care, as Lilly needs water daily.


Well, that's good that Lilly has a good home to stay in. I can't believe no one can at least take them for a little while

king2005
06-21-2007, 09:52 AM
Well, that's good that Lilly has a good home to stay in. I can't believe no one can at least take them for a little while

Many of my friends live with their parents as I have a couple years on them.. & the others live in small places are & 100% full.
Lilly is being squeezed in.

Joe wanted Lilly as he thinks shes cool & she easy to care for.. But his landlady doesn't like spiders, so he was forced to say no... ALL my friends are trying HARD to find a place for my pets, they really are.

k9krazee
06-21-2007, 09:58 AM
Sorry you're in this situation currently, sending you lots of positive thoughts and prayers.


I never give up on my pets...
I sure hope that's true and you'll do everything possible for Bear...wherever she is.
:(

sweetpatata6
06-21-2007, 10:15 AM
Many of my friends live with their parents as I have a couple years on them.. & the others live in small places are & 100% full.
Lilly is being squeezed in.

Joe wanted Lilly as he thinks shes cool & she easy to care for.. But his landlady doesn't like spiders, so he was forced to say no... ALL my friends are trying HARD to find a place for my pets, they really are.


Ok, that's good, and it's nice that your not alone and to know that people are working to help you :) . With other people on the case it sould be a little bit easier to find solutions.

king2005
06-21-2007, 12:53 PM
Ok, that's good, and it's nice that your not alone and to know that people are working to help you :) . With other people on the case it sould be a little bit easier to find solutions.

My dad asked me to call him so we could talk, as he wants to know everything & I cannot lie (I've lied to him before to protect him from my poor quality of life. I didn't want him to worry about me, he already has my sister to help care for).

Hes going to pay for my first & last months of my new place.. But there are hefty strings attached :( I cannot fight to get Bear, I cannot obtain anymore pets, have to live alone (no roomates), I have until Aug 1st to find a place or I have to get rid of Mango & LIlly (he knows the legal issues with Axle & I'm stuck with him for life)...

I have to obey, because in reality I cannot survive anyother way.


I was suprised when dad didn't get upset with me when I told him I filed bankruptcy. He said he knew it was coming the day I was out on my own. He said it was only a matter of time until I couldn't handle it anymore & was forced into bankruptcy by him... He was happy that I spent 2 months working on filing & not just rushing into it & then getting more screwed.

Telling dad was a huge weight off my chest. But loosing Bear is like the end of the world :( It hurts bad, real bad... real real bad :( I'm not even allowed to fight for her...
Dad said I have to walk away as I have to be #1 at some point in my life, cause look where I am now. I put everything & everyone before me & here I am hungry & homeless. He said once I'm established & can care for myself 100% & not have to worry about my next meal, or where I'm going to sleep tomorrow.. then & only then can I get back into rescuing animals in need...

He knows how this is killing me, as hes watched me raise sick & hurt animals all my life & I have always fought tooth & nail for them. He rarely ever got in the middle of me & an animal because he knew I was always right... He knows I'm right in fighting for Bear, but hes worried I'll loose everything which is already happening.

king2005
06-21-2007, 01:12 PM
So Bear is stuck with the person that does not like her and does not care for her? :confused:

Is there anyway you can get her and rehome her with someone who actually deserves her?

Sadly yes Bear is stuck with Chad, it makes no sence why he wants her so bad, he hates her... I do know that he seems to like her when guests are over & he says, hey look I rescued a dog! *I want to rip that smirk off his face everytime I hear it*.. then the second they leave, he goes back to ignoring her :(

I don't even know where she is :(
& I cannot get her, as I don't even have a home of my own. I cannot take any time off of work, or I'll get fired, as I'm on super thin glass (I missed a lot of time with the bankruptcy & other stress issues).

I really am homeless.. The only difference between me & someone who sleeps on the streets, is that I have a job.

The place with my friend in Toronto fell through.. I can stay a couple days, but thats it.. :(




I know I didn't mention this as it was kinda embarassing, but Chad told the police I did a B&E to his place! They called me at 2:30 am & asked where I was & if I'd meet with them.. of course I said YES & obeyed with NO delay... at 3:30am they were infront of the building I was at & called & woke me up again... I spoke to them until 4am... They are on my side cause I didn't do a B&E into my OWN home... I can do without last night happening... thats mostly why dad wants me to leave Bear. If Chad will make up a BS story like that, then it could get worse... Who knows what he'll do... 2 of my LARGE male friends are coming to my old place to get my things, as they don't trust Chad, & neither do I

Catty1
06-21-2007, 01:33 PM
Big prayers for you. And for Bear.

Would Andrew look out for Bear?

I realize it is killing you...but I see where your dad is coming from. You gotta be first, just for a while. Focus on you, and you do have good friends to help you.

In a way, I admire your dad - he could see this coming, and it must have hurt and been SO hard for him to not 'warn' you, but I guess he realized you would have to learn for yourself.

Of course, love your animals. But love yourself first - with all the determination you have shown, and strength, you will work wonders getting your stuff together.

HUGS! :)

king2005
06-21-2007, 02:03 PM
Big prayers for you. And for Bear.

Would Andrew look out for Bear?

I realize it is killing you...but I see where your dad is coming from. You gotta be first, just for a while. Focus on you, and you do have good friends to help you.

In a way, I admire your dad - he could see this coming, and it must have hurt and been SO hard for him to not 'warn' you, but I guess he realized you would have to learn for yourself.

Of course, love your animals. But love yourself first - with all the determination you have shown, and strength, you will work wonders getting your stuff together.

HUGS! :)

Thanks

Andrew is a useless tit :mad: I tried to explain to him what they are doing will effect their bankruptcy.. He said well Chad said otherwise... Thats great, but the Agency prob. knows more then Chad don't ya think?? SO Andrew is putting himself into thousands of $$ in debt & there is no hope for him to claim that.. as you cannot create debt like that KNOWINGLY going into a bankruptcy... they did this after they had a few meeting with the bankruptcy agency... *smacks forehead*


Dad wanted me to see what the real world is all about while I'm young & hes still around.. he said its better learning this lesson NOW, then later in life like he did after him & mom divorced. its almost going on 13years now & hes STILL paying for the debt. He'll be 59 in Oct, & said its no life to live to only pay debt... So learning this lesson now, with him around is a healthy lesson... Dad had help from his younger brother when the divorce first happend... Dad no longer does anything with his credit cards & doesn't buy useless junk anymore.. unless its from his savings account.

Dad has always ALWAYS let me get myself into trouble, but was always nearby making sure it didn't get out of control. He would help just enough to get me onto my feet & thats it... Now I'm getting a bigger hand, as well its going to take a lot to get me off my feet.

I am who I am, cause of my dad. Thats why I have so much respect for him. He wants nothing but the best for his kids & refuses to spoil them.. he teaches them with love & wisdom & reality.. nothing is sugar coated, but hes not mean either.

Catty1
06-21-2007, 02:16 PM
What a great dad - kind of like mine!

Your getting things together for yourself would be wonderful for you - and a great Father's Day tribute for him. :)

You can't worry about Andrew...is he a twit, or just blind? He will find out one day. Prayers for that fellow... :(

king2005
06-21-2007, 02:29 PM
What a great dad - kind of like mine!

Your getting things together for yourself would be wonderful for you - and a great Father's Day tribute for him. :)

You can't worry about Andrew...is he a twit, or just blind? He will find out one day. Prayers for that fellow... :(

I bought my dad a 10.00 Wendy's gift card. I'm going to mail it to him with a copy of my bankruptcy papers (he asked for a copy).

So it'll be 2 good things that hes receiving int he mail at once :)

I know I know, I shouldn't have bought the gift card, but I bought it a few days ago, before WW3 broke out.

Catty1
06-21-2007, 02:37 PM
I shouldn't have bought the gift card

Hey - this is for your DAD! :D Totally allowed!

shais_mom
06-21-2007, 02:51 PM
could you tell the place you got Bear from how she is treated?

Just a thought


good luck....

sweetpatata6
06-21-2007, 02:52 PM
Hey - this is for your DAD! :D Totally allowed!


Agreed-- Hey, sorry if some of my comments earlier sounded rude, after I was reading over the thread I realized that they didn't come out how they ment to come out and I was like :eek: about how I sounded, sorry.

And I'm sooo glad to hear the police are on your side about the B&E... I can't believe chad would do that!!!

Your dad sounds like he has a good head on him and is trying to do his best for you to try and get your life back straight...

Praying for you and Bear and for you to get your life restored. :)

king2005
06-21-2007, 03:10 PM
could you tell the place you got Bear from how she is treated?

Just a thought


good luck....

I was thinking of writting them an email, once I'm 100% moved out... But the problem is, if Chad goes ape, he can easily find me as he knows my car & can follow me home... I'm scared what he'll do to my car... no car=no work

Catty1
06-21-2007, 03:22 PM
And the police can be called on Chad IF he does that! An arrest might be the only chance of him getting the help he needs. You could always talk to the cops again - and tell them you are contacting the original owner of Bear. That you are worried...

Do you think he would really do that?

But would you be living that close to him that he would find your car?

Can you trade cars with someone for a while?

Hellow
06-21-2007, 04:28 PM
Ok, i am seriousely confused here. :confused: You own the house, but chad is throwing you out of it, even though you own it? :confused:

sweetpatata6
06-21-2007, 07:38 PM
Ok, i am seriousely confused here. :confused: You own the house, but chad is throwing you out of it, even though you own it? :confused:

They're renting

Hellow
06-21-2007, 07:44 PM
Is chad the landlord, too? Because, if he's not, then he has no right to throw her out of her house.

king2005
06-22-2007, 08:40 AM
Last night was interesting & blood curdling(sp)... :mad:

It would take me a year to type it all out... But 2 cops were there (pushy buggers they were!! Not like I wanted to be there either..sheesh).

Chad is trying to steal all my kitchen things :mad:

Luckly I have lots of random photos of my pets throughout my old places I've lived before I met Chad, which proves that these things are mine!!
See those pots? Ya he said those are his... those pots are over 5yrs old
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3027&g2_serialNumber=2

See all those books! & the dresser! (it has a poster of a deer on it).. ya those are mine too...
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3052&g2_serialNumber=2

Ya those towels are mine too, which are over 8yrs old
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1634&g2_serialNumber=2

See that 30gal tank, you guessed it.. mine too.. its 27yrs old
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=982&g2_serialNumber=2

king2005
06-22-2007, 08:40 AM
Its hard t see, but see that wooden fisherman, with the metal fishing line.. I think the fact that Max was alive in that photo speeks for its min. age!!
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2176&g2_serialNumber=1

See that small glass object beside the tv? Thats a scorpian in glass. Thats in one of my junk boxes in the storage unit that Chad claims that non-of it belongs to me!.. Once again, Max is alive in this photo
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2421&g2_serialNumber=1

See that end table!! now times it by 2
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2486&g2_serialNumber=1

See that dog collar!!!!! Notice how YOUNG Max was in that photo!
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2115&g2_serialNumber=2

Notice the whrist band I'm wearing.. ya I have several of the same & they are also in the storage unit!!!
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2989&g2_serialNumber=2

Oh look, could that be MY rabbit/rat cage??!!
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3316&g2_serialNumber=2

So I think that proves it right there, that, he's been lying, just a WEEEEE bit!!

king2005
06-22-2007, 08:46 AM
See I had xmas in PEI with my dad, so ALL this stuff is mine too!
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1786&g2_serialNumber=2
The mug is in my junk bins in his storage unit
http://jess.the-dog-dish.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1858&g2_serialNumber=2

I have HUNDREDS more photos I need to go through

sweetpatata6
06-22-2007, 09:04 AM
HAHA Chad, does it look like your plan is falling through???? Yea. Thaught so. Good job, I really wouldn't have thaught to use old random pictures to prove stuff was mine in the storage unit unless someone braught it up to me ((which is why I havn't suggested that)) This is a REALLY smart idea.



:D Good Job! I'm still praying and hoping... ((ands I'm sure the rest of PT is...)) Looks like it's working! :D

king2005
06-22-2007, 11:06 AM
HAHA Chad, does it look like your plan is falling through???? Yea. Thaught so. Good job, I really wouldn't have thaught to use old random pictures to prove stuff was mine in the storage unit unless someone braught it up to me ((which is why I havn't suggested that)) This is a REALLY smart idea.



:D Good Job! I'm still praying and hoping... ((ands I'm sure the rest of PT is...)) Looks like it's working! :D

Thank you :)
I don't remember if someone told me to look through photos or I thought of it on my own, as SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many people have been talking to me the past couple days its insane!!

it is really funny how all of Chad's friends are staying Nutral 100% & saying, nope thats hers, nope thats hers, nope thats hers LOL

I love it!

sweetpatata6
06-22-2007, 11:38 AM
Thank you :)
I don't remember if someone told me to look through photos or I thought of it on my own, as SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many people have been talking to me the past couple days its insane!!

it is really funny how all of Chad's friends are staying Nutral 100% & saying, nope thats hers, nope thats hers, nope thats hers LOL

I love it!


Haha. It's probably without even like looking at what it is... And there's NO WAY on Earth that everything in that house is his. And where's his evidence? Oh, right, my bad. In his friends saying that's his... What's yours? Pictures that some even date back to before you lived with Chad. :)

king2005
06-22-2007, 01:48 PM
Haha. It's probably without even like looking at what it is... And there's NO WAY on Earth that everything in that house is his. And where's his evidence? Oh, right, my bad. In his friends saying that's his... What's yours? Pictures that some even date back to before you lived with Chad. :)


All but 1 photo dates back before I met Chad.
All the ones with my old dog date back before Dec 13th 2003...
I graduated from High School when I was 18 & I'm now 25, so that also shows the age...

As I always said, Karma always catches up with bad people. It got my mom & its going to get Chad.



Oh ya all my pets have a home now!
I couldn't take Mango with me cause I didn't have the time or a place to put him at the time, so hes still there.. the cops saw he was well & alive, so he should be fine... + I took pictures of everything

Lilly is living on the other side of Toronto...

Axle is living with a friend(he's a big brother & all my friends have lived with him), where I'll be staying a lot...

Mojo is living with the same people as Axle in a MASSIVE new vase... its 4 times the size of his old one. They were going to get a Betta for it, but when they saw Mojo, they asked if Mojo could go into the vase instead. I might just leave Mojo there for a much longer period of time as it'll take me a long time to be able to afford a large vase for him.. i love him in the large vase, hes much happier in there!

I was with Dan & we met up with my friend who was taking Lilly. My friend is lending me a 30gal tank set (with a lid too)... Dan said now that has cats cannot get their paws bitten, He'll put Mango in his bedroom :D


Dan is a friend who has been helping me move.. Hes taller & larger then Chad... Hes Portaguess(sp), so his skin is darker... Chad is very intimidated by darker skinned men... Dan & I know this, so Chad was pacessing BAD when Dan was around LOL... Chad is pretty much scared of all my friends, as they are all larger then him & are very protective of their friends, esp of their female friends (moi lol)... + most of my friends are Goth or Metal & Chad is scared of them! So thats our bit of enjoyment :D

Chad's also MAD MAD MAD MAD that I'm staying at Ron & Karen's, as they were his friends first, but they are livid with him because he's stealing from me & calling the cops on me, when everyone knows I'm harmless & just want my belongings. Chad also tried to tell them that I stole money from him... I'm assuming he said that, so they wont let me stay there, cause Ron's last case was hopeless & he stole a lot of money... Well Ron knows me better then that, cause I have been around his & Karen's many many many times & never touched it... I've cleaned the livingroom & found money & put it onto the table, even small change... So d'uh I don't steal... I have Anxiety pretty bad & that would set it off... Thats why I cann't lie in person, I start shaking & twitching :rolleyes: I have a built in lie detector lol :D

Catty1
06-22-2007, 02:05 PM
Can the cops find out where Bear is? Or did you see him while you were in the house?

Everything is looked good - you just keep looking after yourself, and let karma fall on Chad!

Glad to hear about your pets. I would hope Bear is with good people (ie FORMER friends of Chad's! :D )

king2005
06-22-2007, 02:22 PM
Can the cops find out where Bear is? Or did you see him while you were in the house?

Everything is looked good - you just keep looking after yourself, and let karma fall on Chad!

Glad to hear about your pets. I would hope Bear is with good people (ie FORMER friends of Chad's! :D )


I didn't see her, but Chad's witness told me she was in the livingroom & that Chad was giving her away to someone in Ottawa... When I have all my things.. I'm still putting in a complaint about her not getting her meds, or vet care...

king2005
06-22-2007, 02:34 PM
You guys have no idea how much this thread is keeping me sane.. Its an great outlet & its helping me keep track of the BS thats going on, as my mind is turning into mush with all this stress.

king2005
06-23-2007, 12:09 AM
I'm 1/2 a sleep, but this evening was quite interesting... Chad called my dad & told him soooo many crazy lies.. my dad had a hunch they were lies as they sounded fishy, esp. since I hadn't mentioned that stuff before. So dad called me & told me bit by bit, of what Chad said & asked me to clarify it all. I laughed through pretty much the whole thing.

My dad said that way Chad was wording things, was as if Chad wanted my dad to control me LOL :rolleyes:

Chad told my dad that I was too scared to get a lawyer because of my Bankruptcy (first off, Chad thought my dad didn't know about my bankruptchy.. SUPRISE!) ... second... I was talking to dad yesterday about talking to a lawyer to see what I could do... As I am planning on taking legal action against Chad. So my dad knew that was total BS right there. My dad played a long to see what Chad would say... As dad was telling me things, & I was answering how it really happened, dad kept saying that little BEEP!

If Chad says anything about talking to my dad, I'm pretty much gonna say something along the lines of this... "Dad said its not healthy for you to lie this much, you must be really stupid"

crow_noir
06-23-2007, 01:02 AM
* H U G S *

I wish i had more input for this thread but i don't.

I just keep wishing that you and everyone else are kept safe from Chad's insanity. (And i pray that he gets the help or wake-up call that he so desperately needs.)

So so very glad that the cops are on your side. (This would have been pure h3ll if they had been on Chad's.)


You guys have no idea how much this thread is keeping me sane.. Its an great outlet & its helping me keep track of the BS thats going on, as my mind is turning into mush with all this stress.

Taz_Zoee
06-23-2007, 01:27 AM
You guys have no idea how much this thread is keeping me sane.. Its an great outlet & its helping me keep track of the BS thats going on, as my mind is turning into mush with all this stress.

I have not posted on this thread until now. But I want you to know I have been reading it and you are in my thoughts through this difficult time. This is one of the many reasons I love this site, the support you get from complete strangers. Be strong!!

wombat2u2004
06-23-2007, 01:35 AM
I have not posted on this thread until now. But I want you to know I have been reading it and you are in my thoughts through this difficult time. This is one of the many reasons I love this site, the support you get from complete strangers. Be strong!!

Yep, same here King. I have been following your thread here.
All I can say is........ kid.....keep ya head up....you'll be ok.
Wom

Lilith Cherry
06-23-2007, 05:44 AM
I just saw this thread too ( been busy marking exams and packing to return to Canada on Wednesday)

Chad is a total s**t to treat you so badly! I am glad your friends are helping you where possible and you have your Dad's support and love too. All good thoughts and prayers are going out to you. Keep your chin up sweetie! You are a brave young lady who deserves better.

king2005
06-25-2007, 12:10 PM
Thanks everyone :)

I had a great weekend. I had lunch with Renos' family (I slept there fri night) & talked more to his mommy (sweet lady). Then I drove Renos' into Malton-Mississauga to the bus stop that Joe takes to work (they work at the same airport), then I went to Ron & Karens (I'm staying there from now on, as they want me near them, so they can keep an eye on me, as they are mad at my eatting habbits). James came over to Ron & Karens & we all watched 3 movies.

The 3 of us slept in(sun morning), I finally felt like having a shower (it had been a LONG 4 days, but I was too stressed to really care), had dinner forced down my throat ;) My goodness I had to eat 2 foot long hot dogs & was suppose to eat 2 corn on the cob, but I was only able to eat the one C.O.T.C.. Ron said ok thats good enough & let me leave (They do the big brother thing, or take in people like me). I met James at Debs place (Joe rents a room there & James stays there for free, as hes from an abusive home & Deb wants him to stay with her as James is doing much better living with her (mentally/emotionally... hes almost ready to get a job...YAY), then we bus'ed to the subway in Toronto & took that to downtown Toronto & walked all over the place to find Renos & then meet the rest of the guys for dinner & bar hopping.

My goodness, the first bar was too much fun HAHAHA! We a had coster fight (we were the ONLY people in the back 1/2 of the bar & we picked up all the costers during the fight, we are clean people & let the waitress know not to touch the mess.. she didn't & we cleaned every single coaster up, including the drink we spilt & the fries we dropped)...

Someone kicked my foot & I said, ok whos playing footsies with me?? Joe gave a funny look & stretched to kick my foot.. However he kicked my shin! I said ouch, you bugger!! Reached down & grabed his foot & PULLED :D I pulled him off his seat & under the table hehehe Eva was beside me & she pulled off his shoe. I said SWEET, held onto his ankle hard & tickled his foot hehehe (I know hes VERY ticklish there).. he fought & I lost his foot, but had his pant leg.. SO I pulled his pant leg.. Joe started hollering, OMG your pulling my pants off... Eva joined in & we pulled harder hehe Dan got up & pulled Joes arms heheh Joe started shouting, GAH my pants, my pants!! the girls are stripping me!!! Everyone is laughing(even Joe) & James was taking photos of poor Joe heheh

We took about 500 pictures of the whole night.

I attached a few photos... You know you have awesome friends, when they can put a big smile on your face in the worst times of your life!!

Photos:
-Eva & I being happy.
-Eve feeding me a slice of sausage... Yes I know how that looks, it took a lot of poking to get me to do that :P Guys :rolleyes:
-& a photo of the WHOLE group at the first bar.. Left-Right: James, Gio, Renos, Eva, Me, Dan & Joe.

I love them all!
Most of us have come from broken homes, dark pasts, or are still living in really rough times. We ALL have emotional issues caused by unpleasent things, so we understand each other & when one starts to go nuts, we get annoyed, but never get angry, cause its only a matter of time until its our turn to go crazy...

crow_noir
06-25-2007, 10:56 PM
Yay! So glad to hear that you had a fun weekend! :D

(pssst... Joe's hot... and looks like one of my bestest friends ever... that I've only seen like once since graduating HS... but that's a long story in and of itself.)

king2005
06-26-2007, 10:07 AM
Yay! So glad to hear that you had a fun weekend! :D

(pssst... Joe's hot... and looks like one of my bestest friends ever... that I've only seen like once since graduating HS... but that's a long story in and of itself.)

I don't even what to type all of what happened last night... Chad was decent at first then we acted like old times (getting a long just fine).. There was a reason for it.. the Cop was HORRIBLE & kept going at me every time I passed by... then he started yelling & yelling & making me feel like shat for things I had NO control over... He put me into an Anxiety attack, the not to pleasent kind... I was shaking, stuttering, holding my fingers & worst of all crying.. I have NO control when this happens... all I wanted to do was run away & hide. Chad was giving me all my things back.. we split spices & things 50/50... I'm getting my shelving back & ALL my things out of his storage unit.


BOY DO I KNOW HE IS HOT hehehe I have a crush on him :P Have for nearly 7 months now lol Thats why when he said his pants were falling off, I pulled harder :D ;) I know I know, I'm bad :rolleyes: :p

The whole world knows I like him & I know it'll more then likely never happen, & YES I'll never let him know how I feel :P I already know I'm not his type

Heres a few photos for you to gaa gaa over lol ;) :D

-The group shot is from a couple weekends ago.. Notice how tall he is & how thin he looks.. Well that photo makes him look FAT.. hes like 6' & weighs 120lb.. hes a sheet of paper, he wears baggy clothing to make him look bigger, as he HATES being so thin (its not his fault).

-the one where you kinda see his face... thats when I had his foot & pulled him off his seat & under the table LOL I had to add this as it was too funny not too :D

Catty1
06-26-2007, 10:12 AM
BOY DO I KNOW HE IS HOT

Um - I see the photos (cute) but from the first part you wrote, I am assuming the photos are either of Chad or the Cop.

I'm confoozed! :D

Glad to hear Chad was being good. Why was the cop in such a bad mood???

king2005
06-26-2007, 10:58 AM
Um - I see the photos (cute) but from the first part you wrote, I am assuming the photos are either of Chad or the Cop.

I'm confoozed! :D

Glad to hear Chad was being good. Why was the cop in such a bad mood???


Nope no photos of Chad or the cops... Just of the fun I had with my friends on Sun (they wanted me to have a good time after this mess with Chad)..

crow_noir said Joe was HOT, so ya I posted more photos for her ;)

The cop didn't want to be there, so he let me know everytime I had to walk past him, or everytime he felt like I needed to know inbetween taking things out of the house. He repeated himself for 2hrs... There was 3 cops at first.. the angry cop's partner was ok to deal with & so was the 3rd cop... They were pushy, but polite.. this angry cop kept raising his voice & being aggressive! I kept telling him I understand & I'm doing my best.

After he put me into anxiety I was walking on the other side of the cars in the driveway (they belong to the people upstairs) & mumbling loudly, that its not my fault I cannot afford meds for my anxiety, that I cannot get a better job cause of my anxiety, I do my best trying to survive with this illness... The angry cops partner was then talking to the angry cop... the angry cop toned down a fair amount... & really toned down when my friend arrived.. The cop lied to her which made me angry (doesn't help my anxiety any), she knew he was lying as she heard what he was saying to me when I was on the phone with him.

JenBKR
06-26-2007, 11:20 AM
I am so glad that you have such good friends nearby to help you through this. I am sure that all of this is bringing out the worst of your anxiety. I just hope those benefits at work will kick in soon so you can get the help you need. ((((hugs))))

king2005
06-26-2007, 11:32 AM
I am so glad that you have such good friends nearby to help you through this. I am sure that all of this is bringing out the worst of your anxiety. I just hope those benefits at work will kick in soon so you can get the help you need. ((((hugs))))

I get the benefits on July 2ed! I'm so excited! I even get dental :D

JenBKR
06-26-2007, 11:40 AM
I get the benefits on July 2ed! I'm so excited! I even get dental :D

Yippi! I knew that the date was coming up sometime but I couldn't remember when it was exactly. That will be a big help. Make your doc appt. soon!

king2005
06-26-2007, 11:53 AM
Yippi! I knew that the date was coming up sometime but I couldn't remember when it was exactly. That will be a big help. Make your doc appt. soon!

I'll be going into a walkin clinic so there is no appt. to make, as I cannot take time off work to see a dr.
the second I have that paper in my hands, I'm running off to the clinic!

Catty1
06-26-2007, 11:56 AM
Jess - my doctor has one day a week where she works into the evening...maybe the clinic could refer you to a clinic with a GP.

I find it's good to have a doc who has known me for a few years.

If you can get the same doc at the walk-in most of the time, that would be great. Can you do that?

It's good you can get started soon! :)

JenBKR
06-26-2007, 11:57 AM
I'll be going into a walkin clinic so there is no appt. to make, as I cannot take time off work to see a dr.
the second I have that paper in my hands, I'm running off to the clinic!

YAY I will be anxious to hear how it all goes :)

king2005
06-26-2007, 12:25 PM
Jess - my doctor has one day a week where she works into the evening...maybe the clinic could refer you to a clinic with a GP.

I find it's good to have a doc who has known me for a few years.

If you can get the same doc at the walk-in most of the time, that would be great. Can you do that?

It's good you can get started soon! :)

My dr. is off at 3pm (stupid eh?!) Her clinic is WAY too far for me to drive to, so I have to see her before 3pm... The clinics are open until 8 or 9pm, depending on the clinic.

If I could I'd do all this in Ottawa at the clinic near my old job, as I have delt with 2 Dr.s there... The male Dr. Saw me having an anxiety attack & the female Dr. was trying to work with me without meds. They were both great to deal with.

crow_noir
06-26-2007, 11:44 PM
:( That's horrible the cop was being all mean to you. :mad: Wish i could have been there to slap him for you (and have been able to get away with it. :D )

I guess the silver lining is that Chad was being the tiniest bit civil. ( Maybe he was getting smug satisfaction from the meanie cop. Blah. )

*comfort hugs*

I wish i could somehow get you the medicine you need. (Unfortunately i don't have connections in the pharmaceutical world like i do in the dog rescue world... not that those really get me far either.)

Ooooooooh! Joe pics! THANK YOU!!!! *tight squeezy hugs*

:rolleyes: I sooo understand about wearing baggy clothing to hide skinnyness and not being able to put any real weight on. It's embarrasing.

And girl, unless he tells you directly how do you KNOW that you're not his type?!


I don't even what to type all of what happened last night... Chad was decent at first then we acted like old times (getting a long just fine).. There was a reason for it.. the Cop was HORRIBLE & kept going at me every time I passed by... then he started yelling & yelling & making me feel like shat for things I had NO control over... He put me into an Anxiety attack, the not to pleasent kind... I was shaking, stuttering, holding my fingers & worst of all crying.. I have NO control when this happens... all I wanted to do was run away & hide. Chad was giving me all my things back.. we split spices & things 50/50... I'm getting my shelving back & ALL my things out of his storage unit.


BOY DO I KNOW HE IS HOT hehehe I have a crush on him :P Have for nearly 7 months now lol Thats why when he said his pants were falling off, I pulled harder I know I know, I'm bad

The whole world knows I like him & I know it'll more then likely never happen, & YES I'll never let him know how I feel :P I already know I'm not his type

Heres a few photos for you to gaa gaa over lol

-The group shot is from a couple weekends ago.. Notice how tall he is & how thin he looks.. Well that photo makes him look FAT.. hes like 6' & weighs 120lb.. hes a sheet of paper, he wears baggy clothing to make him look bigger, as he HATES being so thin (its not his fault).

-the one where you kinda see his face... thats when I had his foot & pulled him off his seat & under the table LOL I had to add this as it was too funny not too

crow_noir
06-26-2007, 11:46 PM
*doin' a happy dance*

Parrrr tayyy!


I get the benefits on July 2ed! I'm so excited! I even get dental

king2005
06-27-2007, 12:01 PM
:( That's horrible the cop was being all mean to you. :mad: Wish i could have been there to slap him for you (and have been able to get away with it. )

I guess the silver lining is that Chad was being the tiniest bit civil. ( Maybe he was getting smug satisfaction from the meanie cop. Blah. )

*comfort hugs*

I wish i could somehow get you the medicine you need. (Unfortunately i don't have connections in the pharmaceutical world like i do in the dog rescue world... not that those really get me far either.)

Ooooooooh! Joe pics! THANK YOU!!!! *tight squeezy hugs*

:rolleyes: I sooo understand about wearing baggy clothing to hide skinnyness and not being able to put any real weight on. It's embarrasing.

And girl, unless he tells you directly how do you KNOW that you're not his type?!

It was either the cop yelling or the fact that I said I have pictures that go WAY back to prove that what I'm saying is in fact mine. + I told the cop (infront of Chad) that I will be bringing this to court, because all I want are my things & my things only... I know I didn't say that earlier as I forgot I said it... Anxiety makes me forget & I get memories back randomly & THEN things make sence :P

I'm sooo excited about getting my meds!! I want to have a more normal life for once!


Thats what Joe said. Hes been to Dr. after Dr. & been on all those bulking up diets & he puts on nothing. He said hes lucky if he can put on 5lbs & its even harder to keep it on... Now I do know he is CRAZY hyper & active... All he wants to do is walk when we hang out. I love the walks, as he knows downtown Toronto fairly well, so he shows me the sights (all by foot).. we are planning a day or 2 trip to go to the island (don't remember the name, but its part of Toronto) & we're gonna walk the whole thing! We're not sure if we're gonna bring the rest of the gang, as they usually walk WAY behind us, cause they are lazy lazy walkers.. I'm short & not a fast walker & I can keep up with Joe with no issues... the other guys are a lot taller then I am & ya... Joe & I could easly loose them just by walking! :eek: LOL I saw how thin he is when he removed 1 of the 2 shirts he was waring (teehee I know I'm so bad) & damn.. looks like he hasn't eatten in years, you can see all his bones :eek: He hates when we go to Gio's & the grandmother kidnaps Joe.. she makes him eat until he nearly pukes HAHAHAHA... She thinks hes aniraxic (sp :confused: )... we all laugh at him :D However Dan's mother does the same to me.. she thinks I don't eat enough.. & I'm over weight too :eek:

I know I'm not his type, cause ummmmm... I cannot say how I know on PT forums, but I do know.. + I've had a lot of talks with Joe about Anxiety & abuse, as we both went through that with our longterm partners, & we talked about relationships & what we're looking for... Not sure how on earth we got into that convo, but we talk a lot when we're driving a fair distance... This Sat should be interesting.. I'm driving him to Hamilton so he can spend his vacation with family & old friends.. I don't have a sterio in my car, so all we can do is talk for the 45min trip...

I know we get a long GREAT(really really great)... Sun was the first time that he well... touched me (NOT THAT WAY!!! ) hehe ya he grabbed my face & messed my hair.. then the whole group was grabbing my face, as it was attack Jess for some random reason LOL...

A few people in our group have made comments on how well Joe & I get along & that we are both single :rolleyes: ... Karen & Ron (our big Brother type people) have also said the samething, to me anyways. It drives me nuts lol If I had to choose, friend or nothing.. its 100% friend! Love hanging out with him, &/or just relaxing in his room watching tv (he rents the room, so his room is his home, so his bed is the couch lol)...

see what you've done, you've tuned my brain back to the Joe station.. I'll never shut up now :D

crow_noir
06-28-2007, 03:52 AM
Awwwwe, I'm sorries. :( ... :p ;)


see what you've done, you've tuned my brain back to the Joe station.. I'll never shut up now :D

king2005
06-28-2007, 08:51 AM
Awwwwe, I'm sorries. :( ... :p ;)

I'm gonna con't this Joe thing in another thread, as something has come up & I don't know what to do to help him!

Pawsitive Thinking
06-28-2007, 10:21 AM
You may not have much materially but with friends like yours you are rich beyond belief :D

king2005
06-28-2007, 10:41 AM
You may not have much materially but with friends like yours you are rich beyond belief :D

BM, thats the samething that my dad & my Bankruptcy lady said.

Last Sunday my friends made me feel like a million dollars(even though they only spent 10.00 on me) when it felt like the world was ending. Every since then I got use to the idea that I'll no longer have any possessions, but who needs things when I have awesome friends. Sure I want my things, but I gave up caring too much about it... Luckly Chad's freaky mental issues have calmed down.. I have almost ALL my things out of his place.. tonight will be the last of the things I have to take from his place... Hes still willing to give me all my belongings out of the storage unit...

Do you have any idea how hard it is for me to pretend to be his buddy!!! Its KILLING me, talking all friendly with him & having to talk to him on the phone about anything... Yesterday he called me 5 times at work to talk.. hes called me 3 times just this morning.

I'm gonna keep bitting my tongue until I have all my things. Then I'm gonna end things as civil as I can... there will be no more calling me, no more nothing...

Chad THINKS we can still be friends :eek:

sweetpatata6
06-28-2007, 11:07 AM
What you need to do is once you have all of your stuff back just kindly tell him that he has violated ALL of your trust and quite frankly, your shocked at him. Tell him that there is no way that you guys can go on pretending like nothing happened, because it hurt you so much inside.

king2005
06-28-2007, 12:33 PM
What you need to do is once you have all of your stuff back just kindly tell him that he has violated ALL of your trust and quite frankly, your shocked at him. Tell him that there is no way that you guys can go on pretending like nothing happened, because it hurt you so much inside.


Thats what I want to do.. I want to keep it civil so I don't make him mad, cause like I said before, I cannot risk my car... I need that car to live.

I spent an hour with him today (my lunch hour) & we got to the topic of Axle... I told him it doesn't matter if my new place allows the turtle or not.. Axle has been sentenced to death... I told you before Axle doesn't get any chances. ANY complaint against him is an instant death sentence (he has NO idea I'm fighing for Axle, I wanted to make him feel guilty for risking Axles life!!!! & if I do loose Axle I want him to know its his fault!)... It was crazy hard to spend buddy buddy time with Chad... OMG I wanted to jump out the window I hated it so much... But I need to play things cool, as I want my things.

crow_noir
06-28-2007, 10:40 PM
I know it's not the same situation but i kind of know how it feels. It's like when my parents got their divorce and end up putting me in the middle of it. ...and my dad was selling off all the stuff the court ordered him to give back to my mom. Some stuff were treasured trinkets that meant the world to me that i had hoped to inherit some day. ...That wasn't the worst part though. Not even close. Two people i have loved, trusted, and cherished my whole life had changed into horrible psychos with in a couple years time. My life was torn apart. When my mom snapped i lost one of my best friends, my trust in her had forever been swept away.

And yes, to keep things civil, and to try and get some of the object that held fond memories of a better time I did my best to keep my temper with them. I took their phone calls. Sometimes i had to lie about things i knew. I hated it. And they'd try to get all this info from me (mostly it was my father..) and at the end of the phone calls they'd try to let me know how much they love and cherish me. (Really? Well then why are you acting like you are and being manipulative? was what i was thinking.) In the very least i found their behavior disrespectful. ...that's as light as i can put it.

But yes... I understand (i think). Pretending to be something you're not because you have next to no choice if you want things to go even slightly in your favor... sucks horribly!!!


... Do you have any idea how hard it is for me to pretend to be his buddy!!! Its KILLING me, talking all friendly with him & having to talk to him on the phone about anything... Yesterday he called me 5 times at work to talk.. hes called me 3 times just this morning. ...

king2005
06-29-2007, 08:33 AM
I know it's not the same situation but i kind of know how it feels. It's like when my parents got their divorce and end up putting me in the middle of it. ...and my dad was selling off all the stuff the court ordered him to give back to my mom. Some stuff were treasured trinkets that meant the world to me that i had hoped to inherit some day. ...That wasn't the worst part though. Not even close. Two people i have loved, trusted, and cherished my whole life had changed into horrible psychos with in a couple years time. My life was torn apart. When my mom snapped i lost one of my best friends, my trust in her had forever been swept away.

And yes, to keep things civil, and to try and get some of the object that held fond memories of a better time I did my best to keep my temper with them. I took their phone calls. Sometimes i had to lie about things i knew. I hated it. And they'd try to get all this info from me (mostly it was my father..) and at the end of the phone calls they'd try to let me know how much they love and cherish me. (Really? Well then why are you acting like you are and being manipulative? was what i was thinking.) In the very least i found their behavior disrespectful. ...that's as light as i can put it.

But yes... I understand (i think). Pretending to be something you're not because you have next to no choice if you want things to go even slightly in your favor... sucks horribly!!!


I'm sorry you had to go through that :(
My parents divorce turned into WW3 but of a different kind... My dad was civil 100% as he refused to bring any extra stress onto his kids... However my mother wanted to destroy my dad for whatever reason... I was 13 & my sister was 9.. my sister & I went through hell & back.. my mom & counclers tried to force us to say our dad was touching us :eek:

crow_noir
06-29-2007, 10:13 PM
Crazy! I can't believe the counselors were trying to get you to say those things too! Evil jerks! :mad:

I too am sorry you had to go through that.


I'm sorry you had to go through that
My parents divorce turned into WW3 but of a different kind... My dad was civil 100% as he refused to bring any extra stress onto his kids... However my mother wanted to destroy my dad for whatever reason... I was 13 & my sister was 9.. my sister & I went through hell & back.. my mom & counclers tried to force us to say our dad was touching us