View Full Version : "Pet Angel Fund for Spaying Gizzy et al"
Roxyluvsme13
05-31-2007, 01:40 PM
what have you done??? you havent made any calls!! The only thing I saw you do, was get your mom to take you to get some paperwork for another place. and of course I ahve seen you whine alot!
you dont trust people, till they throw money at you???
A lot of work was done behind PMs.
And I'm not whining. Assume my whining all you want.
No. No matter how well I know some online PT'ers, there are about two I would trust fully and without any doubt.
Zippy
05-31-2007, 01:46 PM
Gizzie sounds alot like Pumpkin and let me tell you getting Pumpkin fixed didn't calm her down very much.I am not saying that will happen with Gizzie but what if it does? Your mom doesn't even like Skye and form what I take she is calm.So what if Gizzie's behavior drives your mom to say that's it she goes?
Roxyluvsme13
05-31-2007, 01:47 PM
Gizzie sounds alot like Pumpkin and let me tell you getting Pumpkin fixed didn't calm her down very much.I am not saying that will happen with Gizzie but what if it does? Your mom doesn't even like Skye and form what I take she is calm.So what if Gizzie's behavior drives your mom to say that's it she goes?
As said, I'll go with her.
My mom always is saying to me that Clearly the animals matter more to me than her. And well, yeah. I would go with her.
critter crazy
05-31-2007, 01:49 PM
As said, I'll go with her.
My mom always is saying to me that Clearly the animals matter more to me than her. And well, yeah. I would go with her. thats funny cause when someone metioned Emancipation, you said there was no way you could leave your mom, cause you are all she has.
Which is it??
You need to figure out what us best for the pets, not you or your mom.
Roxyluvsme13
05-31-2007, 01:51 PM
thats funny cause when someone metioned Emancipation, you said there was no way you could leave your mom, cause you are all she has.
Which is it??
You need to figure out what us best for the pets, not you or your mom.
I am all my mom has. And I wouldn't leave her. But if it came to rehoming Gizzie or staying with her, then I would go with Gizzie.
And what is best for my pets is right here.
Again, everyone needs to remember they don't know the whole story and I have no intent on sharing it because it's personal.
Hellow
05-31-2007, 01:55 PM
If you cant go without your mom, you cant go with Gizzie, so stop posting that you will.
Roxyluvsme13
05-31-2007, 02:01 PM
If you cant go without your mom, you cant go with Gizzie, so stop posting that you will.
And why don't you just butt out of my life? You couldn't even afford a water bottle for your gerbil.
critter crazy
05-31-2007, 02:04 PM
I am all my mom has. And I wouldn't leave her. But if it came to rehoming Gizzie or staying with her, then I would go with Gizzie.
And what is best for my pets is right here.
Again, everyone needs to remember they don't know the whole story and I have no intent on sharing it because it's personal.Let snap out of fantasy land for now. Where would you go?? You are 14 yrs old!! Your mom is your mom, no matter if you like what she does or not! You cannot just keave your mom, because of your cat! You have options you just are living in fantasy land, and dont want to take them. This is redicuolous! I would never oput an animal before my mom! Sure I dont always like what my mom has done, but she is my mom, forever! I Love my pets so much it hurts, but they would never be before my family.
Hellow
05-31-2007, 02:07 PM
Dude, get off of the water bottle thing. That was almost 2 weeks ago. it is history. But, you cannot leave your mom. Period.
Zippy
05-31-2007, 02:12 PM
I don't understand you.You want people to help you and then you don't want anyone to help you.This whole thread is just nothing but fights.*sigh*That's not fair to say that to Reggie you have no right to say anything to him about his gerbil when you can't even get your pets sprayed and shots without the some wonderful people setting you up a fund.Right now you need to think what is right for your pets no matter how much you love them.It might be best to rehome Gizzie.I know it would be horriable.I had to rehome my baby birdie Emmy Lou.It still makes me sad to think about it.But I did what I had to do and I know that it was best to rehome her because of the move.I love her so much and miss her tons.But I know Kari is taking good care of her.
kittycats_delight
05-31-2007, 02:41 PM
People I think everyone needs to chill out here. All this is ridiculous beyond words. Everyone seems to be losing sight of the real purpose...the pets. I can see where Bri is coming from wanting to know in advance that an appointment was being made on her behalf. With all honesty if someone did that for me without letting me know first then I would be upset too. Of course that is no offence to Gina I know she was being very helpful and I do commend her for her efforts. I also see how people got upset by Bri being upset cause this has been ongoing and back and forth for so long. But all this screaming and bashing and putting down is completely outrageous.
This thing with Bri and her mom and leaving if her mom tried to rehome her pets...why don't we think about this for a second. I simply think Bri is trying to let you all know how much her animals mean to her. They are her life. Please understand this. I know more about this situation than anyone else here. Bri would be lost without them. The stress on this 14 year old girl is overwhelming. Most adults would crack. But what Bri is trying to tell you all is she would rather leave than lose her pets but she knows that is not possible as she has no where else to go. She loves her mom despite all her flaws and all the things she has done. But her pets are her lifeline right now and what is keeping her sane so to speak.
You know I think everyone needs to step back and take a deep breath and calm down. And another thing before we post from now on please read and re-read your post first. Put yourself in the other persons shoes and ask yourself how you would feel hearing these things. Also if you are angry DO NOT POST walk away and calm down first then come back and calmly post what you have to say without bashing and considering the fact you don't know everything and that there is another persons feelings to consider.
I have found lately PT is like a volcano ready to errupt. I don't know what is wrong with everyone but this really has got to stop. All the fighting and arguments...the bad feelings and bad attitudes. What happened to this community? This used to be such a wonderful caring compassionate place. It is still a wonderful place with some amazing people but MY GOD it has changed. I hope everyone can take a step back and relax...calm down and consider others before blowing their stack or going off the deep end on them. It makes PT a very hostile place sometimes. Let's try to keep this the wonderful community is has always been.
Thanks
Michelle
Hellow
05-31-2007, 02:47 PM
It is all of the new people that have had all of 5 days experience on here.
kittycats_delight
05-31-2007, 02:52 PM
It is all of the new people that have had all of 5 days experience on here.
What are you talking about? :confused:
Hellow
05-31-2007, 02:58 PM
I mean when people bash other people it mostly comes from all of the new people.
kittycats_delight
05-31-2007, 03:05 PM
I mean when people bash other people it mostly comes from all of the new people.
That is not always true. And in the case of this thread in particular definately not true. You are the newest person to post in this thread the other members have been here quite some time. And my point is this: New Member...Old Member...it doesn't matter the bashing and all this angry has to stop. People new and old need to step back and take a deep breath before posting and saying something that is not called for.
Ginger's Mom
05-31-2007, 03:06 PM
People I think everyone needs to chill out here. All this is ridiculous beyond words. Everyone seems to be losing sight of the real purpose...the pets. Thanks
Michelle
I could not agree more. It is my understanding that as far as we know none of the animals are sick (although since they do not receive veterinary care, I guess we really cannot be sure of that). What they are trying to do is get together enough money for someone who has collected four animals without having enough income to do anything other than feed them, so that she can take them to the vet to be spayed. I believe this all started in an attempt to correct a behavioral problem which may well have developed from the stress in the household. Somewhere along the line this child has convinced some well meaning people that it is in the best interest of everyone to pay for everything she has been unable to do while continuing to adopt additional animals and ask for more (a bird). I think that about sums it up.
I personally think the animals should be placed in homes where they can receive the care they need. That would also free up money in the household to pay the electric bill, but I am sure that I will be considered cold or unfeeling or mean to suggest such an alternative.
jennielynn1970
05-31-2007, 03:13 PM
Ok, here's what I got from Linda today....
There is NO office visit charge for Vaccinations. They just give the vaccinations, nothing else, so don't expect to be able to ask questions and get answers unless you want to pay for an office visit.
2nd.. Depending on the doctor, they may want to have FIV/FeLV testing prior to the vaccinations. If the cat is in good health, they may just do the shots and not the testing. It is all dependent upon the doctor, so if Gizzie is exhibiting any signs that may seem like something, he may want to test her prior to any vaccinations.
jennielynn1970
05-31-2007, 03:17 PM
Jenn was asking about if there was an initial exam cost, so that's why I was waiting.
You didn't say to ask about an INITIAL exam cost... the question was "Is there a fee for an office visit to just get shots." That's what I asked.
Initial exams normally cost money. If there is an appt. set up for the vaccinations, then ask about exam fees when you are there.
Roxyluvsme13
05-31-2007, 03:20 PM
Ok, here's what I got from Linda today....
There is NO office visit charge for Vaccinations. They just give the vaccinations, nothing else, so don't expect to be able to ask questions and get answers unless you want to pay for an office visit.
2nd.. Depending on the doctor, they may want to have FIV/FeLV testing prior to the vaccinations. If the cat is in good health, they may just do the shots and not the testing. It is all dependent upon the doctor, so if Gizzie is exhibiting any signs that may seem like something, he may want to test her prior to any vaccinations.
So if we just go in and get the shots then they won't charge for an office visit. Okay, gotcha.
I'm pretty sure Gizzie has no signs or symptoms to FIV/FeLV. She's a really healthy cat.
And on the whole question thing, I meant what you asked. Because exams are usually like $20. So, it's all good.
jennielynn1970
05-31-2007, 03:31 PM
Whew! I think Linda is getting tired of talking to me, as well as Marilyn. If anyone wants prices, Marilyn is option #6 on the phone. She's very nice. Linda, if she's not answering her phone, can be paged by the receptionist. She did that for me because I explained I was calling from out of state for information for a friend. They wound like a genuinely nice office. That whole southern accent just is just too much! I get off the phone and sound like I'm from the south!
Roxyluvsme13
05-31-2007, 03:33 PM
Whew! I think Linda is getting tired of talking to me, as well as Marilyn. If anyone wants prices, Marilyn is option #6 on the phone. She's very nice. Linda, if she's not answering her phone, can be paged by the receptionist. She did that for me because I explained I was calling from out of state for information for a friend. They wound like a genuinely nice office. That whole southern accent just is just too much! I get off the phone and sound like I'm from the south!
LOL. So all I have to do is ask for Linda, right? Or is there an option for her on the phone?
Hahaha. You should hear my accent :p.
jennielynn1970
05-31-2007, 03:34 PM
PS... your clock arrives tomorrow!! I tracked it on UPS. :D
jennielynn1970
05-31-2007, 03:35 PM
LOL. So all I have to do is ask for Linda, right? Or is there an option for her on the phone?
Hahaha. You should hear my accent :p.
Didn't hear any option at all for Linda. I pushed "0" (zero) for the operator which is for appointments, and said I wanted to speak to Linda in Pet Angel and she can page her if she doesn't answer. Marilyn gives the prices for things.
Roxyluvsme13
05-31-2007, 03:37 PM
Didn't hear any option at all for Linda. I pushed "0" (zero) for the operator which is for appointments, and said I wanted to speak to Linda in Pet Angel and she can page her if she doesn't answer. Marilyn gives the prices for things.
Ah, okay.
I think I need to speak to Linda. But I really don't know what to say. :o
And W00T! I'll make you a voice clip with my regards :p
Catty1
05-31-2007, 05:20 PM
A few weeks back, I was told that Linda was in Accounting, and to press that option on the voice mail. But, there wasn't one. So I pressed Reception, and asked to be put thru to Linda.
They did seem really nice.
Jenn - you mentioned a local low-cost spay neuter to me earlier, right in town. Now that I am HOME (YAY!) with a REAL computer, I will check the link and make a VERY preliminary inquiry as to whether they can take donations and still charge low-cost. If so, a donated buck might go a little further.
This started with trying to find out if the Banfield Pet Hospitals at PetSmart would accept donations for their wellness plans, which are paid monthly and seem reasonable, at least on the surface. However, the vet at the Banfield in Bri's town also has his own practice - and the donation fund is there. Hence - a chance to contribute, but no discount for anyone! :)
So I will look the low-cost one up.
ETA: I found the link, and have downloaded it and the application form. I am waiting to send it to Bri to see what she thinks! And - I'm glad to see a few like-minded people who focus on the animals. :)
dogzr#1
05-31-2007, 05:56 PM
I agree with Michelle, well with what she posted on the last page.
However, Bri you may kill me for this, but to speed things up and help getting money, why don't you sell some of your pirate stuff? I know you love it more than anything (of course, not as much as your pets or family) but I think you could get a lot of money off of that and you can help with the fund quite a bit. I'm so sorry Bri, but that's what I'm thinking. I know its what I would do to get money if my animal needed to get spayed. But, since she isn't in a life or death situation, you can do it only as a last resort.
Roxyluvsme13
05-31-2007, 06:06 PM
*blinks*
But anyways, Suki Wingy and I set up a cafe press shop, and we're going to use the money from that for my pets. So, when it's set up I'll post a link.
Sevaede
05-31-2007, 06:22 PM
dogzr#1 has a good suggestion. :)
lbaker
05-31-2007, 07:07 PM
You have time and energy to set up a cafe press shop but can't find a phone to call to arrange vet time? :confused: What excuse will yet another "tomorrow" bring :( oh sigh, I'm so sorry to keep getting sucked in but it's so absurd it's almost addicting to this trauma/drama soap opera :rolleyes:
shais_mom
05-31-2007, 08:00 PM
It is all of the new people that have had all of 5 days experience on here.
are you kidding?
You've been here less than a MONTH - I've been here 6 years!!!
You have noooooooo idea what this board is capable of. Good and unfortunately bad.
lbaker You have time and energy to set up a cafe press shop but can't find a phone to call to arrange vet time? What excuse will yet another "tomorrow" bring oh sigh, I'm so sorry to keep getting sucked in but it's so absurd it's almost addicting to this trauma/drama soap opera
Better than Tivo! ;)
wendysue1853
05-31-2007, 08:54 PM
Well to be fair, noone HAS to donate , if they do so they do so out of their goodness of their heart. The lady that wanted to do the work at her clinic was more then generous but realistically if she could do that, she would have the funds to just get it done herself where she is. So, I think to question her motives is a little unfair. Also, I would not want to send my pet away from me out of state to have it done either, out of county maybe, out of state , no.
Catty1
05-31-2007, 09:10 PM
Bri - what will you and Suki Wingy be selling? That sounds interesting. Is it some of your POTC stuff, and other things? I know that might sound awful - but if it is worth a fair bit, then you wouldn't have to sell all of it, maybe just a few pieces.
And if you don't mind me posting...Bri has an application form for the low cost spay and neuter in her city. Thing is, it's doubtful they would accept a form from someone her age. Bri - do you think your mom would sign it?
I've emailed the S&N clinic anyway. Their prices are good, and they take PayPal for adoptions.
I've been away - so just want to confirm if there are enough funds for Gizzy, and if her appointment has been made. If Giz can be taken care of, then the rest is not so overwhelming.
I commend Bri for trying to do something to make some of the money.
jennielynn1970
05-31-2007, 09:26 PM
I've been away - so just want to confirm if there are enough funds for Gizzy, and if her appointment has been made. If Giz can be taken care of, then the rest is not so overwhelming.
I commend Bri for trying to do something to make some of the money.
I've confirmed with Linda the last two times that I called that there is only $60.00 so far. ONE check. That is yours. The others must be in transit, but I don't count money before it's actually received.
Roxyluvsme13
05-31-2007, 09:37 PM
Erm, not sure what we're going to sell. I know she said she was working on a Pit Bull design and I put some of my artwork on a Pirate shirt.
I'm calling tomorrow to get more information from Robinson's, and I don't know if my mom will sign the form or not.
jennielynn1970
05-31-2007, 09:55 PM
Have you never forged your mom's siggy?! LOL!
I was queen of that one in high school. Academic failure notices? If i couldn't do it good enough we paid the one girl at roller skating to do it for us for $2.00
To me, you do what you gotta do to get it done. If mom doesn't ask what was required, then just sign the form for her and let it go at that. Not the best way to go, but if it came to that, I'd do it so it could get done.
Roxyluvsme13
05-31-2007, 09:57 PM
Have you never forged your mom's siggy?! LOL!
I was queen of that one in high school. Academic failure notices? If i couldn't do it good enough we paid the one girl at roller skating to do it for us for $2.00
To me, you do what you gotta do to get it done. If mom doesn't ask what was required, then just sign the form for her and let it go at that. Not the best way to go, but if it came to that, I'd do it so it could get done.
lmao.
I forged it once in Kindergarten :o. I did a pretty decent job too. My teacher didn't notice.
I'll get her to sign the form somehow. If we go in the option of that clinic.
Ginger's Mom
05-31-2007, 10:14 PM
Have you never forged your mom's siggy?! LOL!
I was queen of that one in high school. Academic failure notices? If i couldn't do it good enough we paid the one girl at roller skating to do it for us for $2.00
To me, you do what you gotta do to get it done. If mom doesn't ask what was required, then just sign the form for her and let it go at that. Not the best way to go, but if it came to that, I'd do it so it could get done.
Wow, I cannot believe you just gave that advise to a 14 year old.
Grace
05-31-2007, 10:16 PM
Wow, I cannot believe you just gave that advise to a 14 year old.
Neither can I. Talk about contributing to the delinquency . . . . . . .
Pawsitive Thinking
06-01-2007, 05:06 AM
I don't think being called rude is helpful, but okay then.
I give up :rolleyes:
Miss Z
06-01-2007, 06:08 AM
I've avoided this thread as much as possible, but seeing as everyone else has weighed in with their preaching and proclaiming, I thought I might as well say what's on my mind.
Briana is my friend, and I will stand by her decisions and her actions. Her situation isn't perfect, no. Her mum is far from perfect. Maybe even her attitude is far from perfect, but she's the teenager here. Not that it makes it alright to kick up a stir, but many of you here are sensible adults and know better than to toss the emotions of someone not yet entirely self sufficient. You know, I've tallied up the amount of these :rolleyes: from either side of the arguement, and well, take an educated guess which 'side' scored higher.
For those still perhaps unsure, it wasn't Bri.
Yes maybe this girl needs telling what to do and what not to, but there's a way of getting your point across fairly. She's had history on these boards, yes, and do you know how close she's been to leaving PT every time? I'm sorry to be frank, but a lot of you people don't know the half of it. I myself don't know all of it, but from what I do know I can conclude that I can picture myself in a similar situation, taking similar action.
Bri, I know you have had this hammered into your skull over and over by less compassionate methods, but you know that those who are helping you here are doing the best they can purely out of the good of their hearts. If they say jump, you say how high, OK? I know you can put all your effort into this, and I think the cafe press is a great idea.
I am sorry that I can offer nothing but well wishes for you and Gizzie, I wish I could help in some other way.
This is starting to make me mad. You whine about everything. You are just ungratful to the people who set up this fund, donated money to this fund, AND set up an appointment just because you are so lazy that you wont get up at 10:00 to make a phone call. You just make me sick. :mad:
P.S. This is for Roxyluvesme13 only.
And as for you.
You are a hypocrite and have one heck of a big nerve. I've yet to see you try and do anything for your pets unless PT gets on your back. Bri's using her initiative and has addressed the problem, perhaps not according to everyone's standards, but at least she's doing something. If I was you I'd have never weighed in and pointed the finger in a topic such as this.
catnapper
06-01-2007, 06:23 AM
I got tired of reading this saga at page 14. Of understand BOTH sides of the debate (amazing, huh? ;))
First, let me shed some light on mom's feelings, since I was there last year. She is most likely feeling that they are constantly having their electricity cut off and rent late and no food on the table.... yet her daughter is harassing her about vet care. I myself would explode on my kids too if they were asking for money I just didn't have, even if they needed the money for a valid reason! There are priorities she has a mother, first being provide basic needs of shelter and food. It sounds like mom is having a very hard time of providing those basics right now. I am certainly not condemning because I was there! I've been employed for 6 months now and only now catching up with bills - and thats only basic bills (with a few Pouncer emergencies tossed in ;)) I know exactly how overwhelmed mom is feeling. I also think its quite possible that this donation thing is insulting her and making her feel like she's a total failure because her daughter is now accepting donations from complete strangers. Think about it: her attitude towards this has been bad. It could be because she's hurt and ashamed that people are doing something for her daughter that she cannot do herself.
Oh, and speaking of Pouncer.... if he got sick BEFORE I got a job? I don't want to think of what might have happened. Truthfully, I'd have gotten the rescue to take him back and pay for him. I'm sure they'd give him back to me and them I'd repay them $10 at a time for a looong time. But Bri obviously doesn't have that luxury.
I would write more on my wonderful opinions but I have to go to the hospital for blood tests (ugh)
Pawsitive Thinking
06-01-2007, 08:14 AM
Miss Z -as much as I applaud and admire the defence of your friend we are not mind readers so we can only respond and react to how we are treated on the board ourselves. It isn't all one sided you know.
Granted we may have been too "forceful" with some advice and opinions and there are some who are here simply to stir things up, but the majority of the posts are out of genuine concern for Bri and her situation.
How is Gizzy, by the way. She seems to have been forgotten in all this
jennielynn1970
06-01-2007, 08:22 AM
Neither can I. Talk about contributing to the delinquency . . . . . . .
Ok, sometimes you really need to read into sarcasm. That's the problem with a forum where you write things.. you never know whether things are being said tongue in cheek.
Basically we want her to get the form signed. If mom has to drive her there, I'm sure seeing the form and a signature that isn't hers would be a tip off about things, so it's not like it's something doable.
Maybe you also need to get off your high horses unless you're perfect and have never done anything like that... we're talking high school/middle school stuff. Gimme a break. I'm telling her to go get an abortion, which would be contributing to delinquency.
Ginger's Mom
06-01-2007, 08:49 AM
Ok, sometimes you really need to read into sarcasm. That's the problem with a forum where you write things.. you never know whether things are being said tongue in cheek.
Please re-read the last line of your post that I quoted above. That was not sarcasm or tongue in cheek. That was advising a teenage girl to do whatever she needs to do to get her way (or in this case your way). I would not go so far as to say you are contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but you are certainly contributing to the tension, uncertainty, and lack of funds to pay the bills in the house. I am not sure why it is so important to you ladies that the animals stay in a home where they are making life difficult for the people, and where the animals well-being is neglected. At this point you really aren't helping anyone.
Cataholic
06-01-2007, 10:33 AM
Better than Tivo! ;)
Yeah, but, ONLY if you like re-runs. This isn't even last season's news. This is like watching THREE seasons ago news.
Catty1
06-01-2007, 11:10 AM
Gizzy. Gizzy. Gizzy. The Animals. Please, Folks.
Let's get the pets helped, please, and get them to a clinic.
Bri's mom - those of us who are helping are doing it from our hearts. If you are feeling bad, please don't. We help one another here all the time, because we do care.
I had hard times for a long time...and then one day, I was able to pay it forward, which I am doing now.
Take care.
JenBKR
06-01-2007, 12:04 PM
I didn't think of this before, but this link (http://www.luvmypet.com/sitebuilder/images/small-green-390x285.jpg) may be helpful. It's low cost vax that travel to Petcos. They have helped me when money got tight and it was vet time.
popcornbird
06-01-2007, 12:11 PM
I am just shocked, and left speechless by this whole thread. To be honest, this whole thing is beyond my understanding. I cannot understand Bri's attitude, but more than anything, I am shocked at the advice some of the PT'ers are giving her.
"Leave your mother"
"Forge a signature for your mother"
Something must be seriously WRONG with some of you people.
A mother, who carried her child in her womb for 9 months, fed her from her own body when she was a baby, raised her, cared for her, fed her, her entire LIFE, has FAR MORE rights over her CHILD, than anyone else on the planet. How could you possibly tell a daughter to leave her MOTHER over a PET?!?! My gosh! Now I bet some of you would gladly choose a pet over a family member, but unless a family is abusive, I cannot imagine taking such a path. She is her MOTHER! Can any of the mothers here with young children IMAGINE that 10 years from now, perhaps there will be people out there advising your child to leave you. Sheesh. Every child has conflicts with his/her parents sometimes. If they go and tell others, that means those other 'elders' should advise them to leave their parents? :rolleyes: Just imagine... I KNOW the mothers here would have a hard time even thinking about someone adivising their kid with such nonsense.
And to THINK Bri's mother would want money from people like that? I know for a fact that if I were in her mother's shoes, I would be furious about her asking for money from strangers off the internet. There are so many unseen dangers on the net, and teens often don't see them. I know that PT, in general, is a rather safe site, but parents have their very valid concerns.
As to forging a signature, that is encouraging a teenager to lie, cheat, and giving her the 'message' that breaking the law like that is okay. :eek:
Sad, very sad. I wasn't going to comment here, but after reading that statement, I just couldn't take it anymore. I don't understand why some people on PT NEED to interfere with her life SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much. She's 14 years old. Sometimes young people tend to make decisions without thinking, or can't understand WHY their parents make certain rules. That doesn't mean WE, strangers on the internet, need to do these things without talking to her MOTHER. She's a minor, not an adult, and her mom is responsible for her, AND, she has her own life in Tennessee, with her own pets, her own family. If I have a kid someday who goes online to ask for money during times of financial difficulty, you can be sure that not only would that kid NOT get that help, but that kid would have all internet rights taken from him/her. Why? If the child can't respect ME enough for raising him/her by asking me if this was okay to do first, then the child WOULD have to face consequences.
If Bri's mom is having financial difficulties, and her pets are healthy and not sick, her first priorities would be to pay rent, get food on the table, feed her kid, feed the animals, pay the bills. No one wants to accept money from strangers unless they're in a situation where they cannot even afford to have food on their table.
I just can't stand it when people turn kids away from their parents, rather than try to get them to understand them, and explain to them that no one is perfect, and no one's parents are perfect either, but they should respect their parents for all they have done for them.
Remember, there are people in this world who have no shelter. There are children in this world who's parents cannot afford medical care. There are people out there with serious illnesses, and no one to treat them. There are animals out there that roam the streets with no food or water to nourish themselves.
If you look at how a GREAT DEAL of poor people AND animals live in this world, you'd consider Bri and her pets fortunate. Life is not a bed of roses. There are thorns too...
...AND there WILL be thorns, in EVERYONE's life. You just gotta learn to deal with them in the right way.
sandragonfly
06-01-2007, 12:45 PM
my. how about some humors since this is already out of hands? heard of "LOL"?? good lord, I never took that seriously, and as far as my concern was, neither did briana too.
also, what IF she is/was being abused? and along all they have is each other? that, none of site or my business of course but something to think about too.
this is pet talk - back to gizzy, pets, animals, creatures, beseech you people!
shais_mom
06-01-2007, 12:51 PM
If Bri's mom is having financial difficulties, and her pets are healthy and not sick, her first priorities would be to pay rent, get food on the table, feed her kid, feed the animals, pay the bills. No one wants to accept money from strangers unless they're in a situation where they cannot even afford to have food on their table.
Pops- I couldn't in my lifetime see your child doing this b/c your child wouldn't be left to raise herself like it seems Brianna has been left to do which is indeed very very sad.
K9soul
06-01-2007, 12:57 PM
Pops made some good points. And I also feel it is wrong to "trash" a young person's parents to her, no matter what. We do not know these people personally or what all is going on in their lives. We only have Bri's perspective and our own assumptions here. A younger person's perspective can be quite different from a parent's. There was a time when I was younger I would have considered some of my mom's actions as cold-hearted and mean, but now I know a lot more about what was going on with her and why it seemed that way. She loved me very much, and I'm sure Bri's mother loves her too.
kittycats_delight
06-01-2007, 12:59 PM
First off - the reason this whooooole thing was started was the Gizzy had worms supposedly but I haven't heard if she still DOES have them or not?? :confused:
Pops- I couldn't in my lifetime see your child doing this b/c your child wouldn't be left to raise herself like it seems Brianna has been left to do which is indeed very very sad.
Sorry Staci but you are completely wrong. The reason this whole thing started was to get Gizzie spayed in hopes of calming her down so Bri's mother wouldn't toss her out the door or into a KILL shelter.
Skye developed worms a short while ago a couple of weeks ago if I am not mistake and Bri's mom went and got the medicine to treat all the animals for worms as they are in contact with one of the other. The worms are gone from Skye and the others never showed any to begin with.
shais_mom
06-01-2007, 12:59 PM
Sorry Staci but you are completely wrong. The reason this whole thing started was to get Gizzie spayed in hopes of calming her down so Bri's mother wouldn't toss her out the door or into a KILL shelter.
Skye developed worms a short while ago a couple of weeks ago if I am not mistake and Bri's mom went and got the medicine to treat all the animals for worms as they are in contact with one of the other. The worms are gone from Skye and the others never showed any to begin with.
sorry for my confusion
:( it certainly wasn't intentional
i'll edit my post or delete it
i do remember now reminded that it was originally a spay fund then it was found she had worms - i just never heard what happened after it was found she had worms.
kittycats_delight
06-01-2007, 01:01 PM
sorry for my confusion
:(
i'll edit my post or delete it
No need at all just wanted to clear up the confusion. :)
Cataholic
06-01-2007, 01:28 PM
Pops- I am going to have Jonah start hounding you in a year or two for money. He needs 'mango money' now that you have us hooked on them!!!
jennielynn1970
06-01-2007, 04:15 PM
Please re-read the last line of your post that I quoted above. That was not sarcasm or tongue in cheek. That was advising a teenage girl to do whatever she needs to do to get her way (or in this case your way). I would not go so far as to say you are contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but you are certainly contributing to the tension, uncertainty, and lack of funds to pay the bills in the house. I am not sure why it is so important to you ladies that the animals stay in a home where they are making life difficult for the people, and where the animals well-being is neglected. At this point you really aren't helping anyone.
First off, I'm not adding to the "lack of funds" to be paid in the house, whatever the heck you mean by that one. You're confused, and better get yourself straight before you blame a person in PENNSYLVANIA for taking money meant to pay bills in TENNESSEE. And as for the form and forging the siggy, come on, like she's going to do it. What I meant was, get the form signed by mom, get it done however you can, but get her to sign it.
Did I ever say whether I was pro or con of this? No. I said I just wanted to get this moving for the animal's sake. I'm not taking sides. I'm trying to get things accomplished, and whether Bri decides to rehome Gizzie is up to her. Gizzie is her and her mother's pet, so if and when they decide to rehome her, they will make that decision. Unless you want to go down there and cat nap her yourself.
Karen
06-01-2007, 07:50 PM
I am closing this thread, as it has gotten long out of hand.
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