Bri & The Pets, Pet Angel Fund, Read post 95 for More info.

[Roxyluvsme13]

I'm not asking anybody to take her, and I don't want to send her to the shelter. Even though she has destroyed alot in our house I would not do that to her. She has a home for now, but I'd love to find her a place where she belongs better. My mom contacted a no-kill rescue in the area, but they won't take her because they don't have the room. I tried to contact our local spay/neuter clinic to get a pricing on her spay, hoping maybe that would help, but their email inbox is full. So, now I ask the help of PT. I'd love to get her spayed and up to date on her current shots and then try to get her on petfinder, but I just don't know. Is anybody willing to offer help?

Here's some of the prices for the shots and stuff. I'm pretty sure this is the cheapest in the area.

Feline Distemper: $14.50
Leukemia: $17.50
Leukemia/FIV Test: $42.00
Rabies: $10.00

I guess I'll try to call the Spay/neuter clinic for her spay pricing.

Please see page 2!

[Marigold2]

Go to your local Petsmart. They give shots every second or third Sat. I got Boscoe's shots the whole package cost me $39.00. It included everything you mentioned. Good luck to you.

[king2005]

Too bad she has to go, but not every pet is a match for every family. Its good that you guys are trying to find her a safe home, instead of just dumping her like so many other people do.

I wish her & your family the best in finding her a forever home :)

[Roxyluvsme13]

Go to your local Petsmart. They give shots every second or third Sat. I got Boscoe's shots the whole package cost me $39.00. It included everything you mentioned. Good luck to you.
I don't think our Petsmart does? :confused:

[Taz_Zoee]

Are you going to try what kittycats_delight suggested to you a while back...get her fixed and see if her behavior doesn't change? I am sure some people here wouldn't mind donating like $5 to $10 to help out. I know I would help.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Are you going to try what kittycats_delight suggested to you a while back...get her fixed and see if her behavior doesn't change? I am sure some people here wouldn't mind donating like $5 to $10 to help out. I know I would help.
Yeah, I just can't get in contact with the clinic to find out how much the cost is. Their email inbox is full and at the moment, I don't have a phone I can use.

[jennielynn1970]

Do you not have a payphone, cell phone, or a friend or neighbor who would let you make a phone call???? I mean, if you had to dial 911, what would you do? There has to be an option somewhere.

Has Gizmo been checked out by a vet previously? How long have you had her? Where did you get her from? If it was a no kill shelter, will they take her back? Do you have a pic or pics of her?

[Roxyluvsme13]

Do you not have a payphone, cell phone, or a friend or neighbor who would let you make a phone call???? I mean, if you had to dial 911, what would you do? There has to be an option somewhere.

Has Gizmo been checked out by a vet previously? How long have you had her? Where did you get her from? If it was a no kill shelter, will they take her back? Do you have a pic or pics of her?
I have a cell phone, but I can't use it for anything other than calling my mom or grandpa. It's kind of an emergency use thing.

Yeah, the previous owners of her said she had been checked before, but she hasn't this year because of our financial troubles. We have to get one of my dogs as well as my other cat UTD on shots. No, I didn't mean we got her from a no-kill shelter, I meant there was one in our area, but they wont take her in because they don't have room. I have a pic, but I'll have to go find it.

[Catty1]

Someone on PT did offer to pay for her spay, as spaying really changed the behaviour of Vixen (typical PT'r that I am, I can remember the cat's name, but not the human's! :D )

Get the price and we can help.

If her behaviour changed, would you take her back?

hugs

[Roxyluvsme13]

Someone on PT did offer to pay for her spay, as spaying really changed the behaviour of Vixen (typical PT'r that I am, I can remember the cat's name, but not the human's! :D )

Get the price and we can help.

If her behaviour changed, would you take her back?

hugs
Yeah, Michelle did, and I would appreciate that, as would my mom, a lot. I'm working on getting the price, I will try to call on Monday if I get a chance, or try to email them again on Monday. If her behavior changed, we might keep her, but I don't know. It's really up to my mom. She can be a really sweet cat, but she's psycho.

[jennielynn1970]

Well, see if you can use a friend's phone and call to get some things taken care of. Petco in our area does the low fee shots. I was just wondering whether she needed the shots as well as an exam to see if anything is wrong.

What exactly is Gizmo doing that makes her need to find another home?

[Roxyluvsme13]

Well, see if you can use a friend's phone and call to get some things taken care of. Petco in our area does the low fee shots. I was just wondering whether she needed the shots as well as an exam to see if anything is wrong.

What exactly is Gizmo doing that makes her need to find another home?
We have a phone, it's just not with me at the moment. I don't know of any place that does the low fee shots. She needs the spay, but I'd like to get her shots and an exam too just to make sure it's only her hormones and not something truly serious. She's absolutely crazy. She destroys and pees on everything, she climbs curtains and doors, and she's just.. psycho.

[jennielynn1970]

Holy geez! How old is Gizmo?? Where'd you find her?! She sounds like one heck of a handful, that's for sure. What about something to calm her down, like the liquid you can put in her water (that herbal stuff... my mind is blanking right now... signs of a migraine).

[Roxyluvsme13]

Holy geez! How old is Gizmo?? Where'd you find her?! She sounds like one heck of a handful, that's for sure. What about something to calm her down, like the liquid you can put in her water (that herbal stuff... my mind is blanking right now... signs of a migraine).
She's a year and two months old, and we got her from a newspaper ad. She really is. We're always out of toilet paper thanks to her, and sometimes I go to school with clothes that have cat pee on them not realizing it. :o Herbal stuff.. umm, know what you're talking about. I think she just has out of wack hormones.

[BC_MoM]

Rescue remedy. Definitely give it a try.

[Roxyluvsme13]

K, thanks. I just emailed a local clinic and they replied back with a pricing.

The price for spay (ovariohysterectomy) is $88.00. This includes preanesthesia examination, anesthesia for surgery, the surgery itself and an overnight hospitalization. There is also an injection for peri-operative pain management which is $9.00. Lastly, we offer and recommend blood tests prior to anesthesia if you are interested, but this is not required in young cats.Thank you. Please call if you have any questions.

I think that's not that bad actually, one of the cheaper vets.

[Catty1]

OK - so do you need donations, hon? Or is your friend still willing and able to pay?

ANd if Giz's behaviour changes for the better, is there a chance she can live with you and your mom again?

Good for you for persevering and finding the best deal and it sounds like they are thorough at the clinic.

I guess I am asking: What now?

hugs!

[Roxyluvsme13]

I might be able to get a discount with that. I have to check with the local shelter because I know they offer a discount. Do you think they'll want her up to date on shots for the spay?

[Roxyluvsme13]

I was just reading on my shelter's site and it says the spay of a cat is only $35. Michelle has so offered kindly to pay for the spay of Gizzie and Skye, all I need is help with teh shots. Michelle's also recommended bloodwork done on each.. I'll have to call and make sure its the price and check on the bloodwork.

[Catty1]

OK thanks. Keep us posted! :)

[Roxyluvsme13]

Called the clinic and left a message. I told my mom, so they'll probably call tomorrow.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Alright, everyone, need your help! The price of the spay for Gizmo is $35 with a form from the local shelter. I'll have to pick that up this weekend.

Now, I need the help of everyone. Donations? According to their website, the total for everything should be around $90. I'll have to ask them about bloodwork when I call them again this weekend, but I know I definitely need at least $90 for her shots. Then, Michelle (kittycats_delight) is paying the $35 for her spay. So, any help I can get is appreciated. Just PM me for my address. I can only accept checks or money orders. (hopefully I can find a place to get the money orders cashed if anybody sends those)

Thanks everyone in advance. I really appreciate this.

[crow_noir]

If your family is a member of a bank that bank should cash them no problem.


Alright, everyone, need your help! The price of the spay for Gizmo is $35 with a form from the local shelter. I'll have to pick that up this weekend.

Now, I need the help of everyone. Donations? According to their website, the total for everything should be around $90. I'll have to ask them about bloodwork when I call them again this weekend, but I know I definitely need at least $90 for her shots. Then, Michelle (kittycats_delight) is paying the $35 for her spay. So, any help I can get is appreciated. Just PM me for my address. I can only accept checks or money orders. (hopefully I can find a place to get the money orders cashed if anybody sends those)

Thanks everyone in advance. I really appreciate this.

[Roxyluvsme13]

If your family is a member of a bank that bank should cash them no problem.
We're not. But I think Wal-Mart does.

[Catty1]

Hi, Bri - sorry, I don't know how old you are. Just would you have a problem cashing cheques because of your age?

Or would your mom do it?

If you can PM me the contact info of the clinic doing the shots and everything, I could send them an amount on my credit card or something. Being in another country, not sure if Wal-Mart would cash my check! :)

Would it be ok if I sent money to the clinic? Let me know, ok?

[Roxyluvsme13]

Hi, Bri - sorry, I don't know how old you are. Just would you have a problem cashing cheques because of your age?

Or would your mom do it?

If you can PM me the contact info of the clinic doing the shots and everything, I could send them an amount on my credit card or something. Being in another country, not sure if Wal-Mart would cash my check! :)

Would it be ok if I sent money to the clinic? Let me know, ok?
I don't think the clinic will accept money like that. :/ My mom said just a bit ago that we can't get the checks cashed because the banks are probably different and no place else will cash personal checks! :rolleyes:

Nope, I can cash checks. I've done it before :).

And she also said we can't get money orders cashed.. at least the full amount because Wal-Mart takes money out.

My mother is frustrating me. Can anybody help on this, because I'm confused? :confused: :(

[Catty1]

How about explaining this to the clinic and seeing if they will take direct payments from other people?

I know some other places have done it. It can't hurt to ask.

Besides - if there is a little left over there, it will be good to have in case Giz gets sick or something later.

Or if you give me their contact info, I can ask them. I really don't mind at all.

Cause then we can get the $ for Gizzy! :D

[Roxyluvsme13]

How about explaining this to the clinic and seeing if they will take direct payments from other people?

I know some other places have done it. It can't hurt to ask.

Besides - if there is a little left over there, it will be good to have in case Giz gets sick or something later.

Or if you give me their contact info, I can ask them. I really don't mind at all.

Cause then we can get the $ for Gizzy! :D
http://goodnewsclinic.com :]

But there's no appointment or anything set up yet.. just so ya know. It's a little too early to go ahead and do that since I don't know how long it will take to get the money.

[Catty1]

The email bounced (full box) so I am faxing them. (They can run, but they can't hide! :D )

Here's what I said:

To: Mindy, Good News Clinic
Tel:Fax - 423.926.4853


Hello, Mindy:

I emailed you, but the box was full, so I am sending you a fax.

My name is Candace Carnie. I post on a forum called petoftheday.com as Catty1.

A young gal there has checked with your clinic for prices on a spay and shots for her cat. She has financial support from a friend to pay for the spay, but needs some more to cover shots, etc.

Is there a way that those who wish can send money directly to your clinic, and put it towards the credit of this person and her cat?

If your answer is in the affirmative, then I will ask her (first name is Bri, short for Brianna I guess) to set things up with your clinic, and we will set up donations.

Also need to know what payment types you take. If you take credit cards, does the clinic have a PayPal account?

Thank you very much for your time and attention.

Best regards,

(I DID sign my real name, email addy, phone and fax #. I said I preferred email as a reply. So we'll see!)

EDIT: Shoot, guess the fax is not on at night! I will get 'em tomorrow!

[Roxyluvsme13]

Okay, thanks ^_^!

[moosmom]

Petco has vaccination clinics every Saturday from 10-2. They have pet wellness packages starting at $39. I have my cats vaccinated there. Get there early as it gets crowded. Bring your cat's vet records with you so they canm see when she was last vaccinated.

You're saving AT LEAST $45 for an office visit. Listen to me, I sound like a walking advertisement. :p

[Roxyluvsme13]

Petco has vaccination clinics every Saturday from 10-2. They have pet wellness packages starting at $39. I have my cats vaccinated there. Get there early as it gets crowded. Bring your cat's vet records with you so they canm see when she was last vaccinated.

You're saving AT LEAST $45 for an office visit. Listen to me, I sound like a walking advertisement. :p
Well, we don't have a Petco :/.. and I'm not sure if Petsmart has these or not. I'll call and ask sometime later. :)

[Catty1]

Would your mom call the clinic and find out about the direct funding? That way she has no hassle with checks from people.

Would she call Petsmart too? http://www.petsmart.com/banfield/index.shtml
Banfield is in Petsmarts, but you have to put in your zip there to find the one nearest you. They have a Wellness Plan (not insurance) that costs about $12 per month - but talk to them anyway. See what they can do for you.

We can donate to Banfield as well! They do all the spays, vaccinations, etc.

You'll have the money for Giz quite quickly! It's not like you need $1,000 for her.


HUGS

[Roxyluvsme13]

Would your mom call the clinic and find out about the direct funding? That way she has no hassle with checks from people.

Would she call Petsmart too?

Are there any PTrs nearby that could help you, or other friends?

Maybe look up Petsmart on the internet for their programs, or phone them soon.

Bri - as soon as the clinic says it can accept direct donations, you'll have the money for Giz quite quickly! It's not like you need $1,000 for her.

They aren't open again til Monday. I am back at work then, but will see if I can reach them.

HUGS
Well, my mom finds this whole idea rediculous and I don't think she gives a rat's butt if Gizzie is ever spayed, she just wants her out of here T_T. I've been doing everything so far. My mom wouldn't even call a rescue for me, she just wants to take Gizzie to the animal shelter and dump her. :(

And I'll have to call Petsmart myself, too.

Umm, the closest PT'er is 2 hours away I believe. I can't remember who all is near me either. :o

Yep, not too many donations needed.. I still need to find out the cost of the bloodwork though.

Alright, thanks :).

Edit: Just checked Banfield. They have no email, but they do have a fax number.

Fax: 423-283-0790

[kittycats_delight]

Well, my mom finds this whole idea rediculous and I don't think she gives a rat's butt if Gizzie is ever spayed, she just wants her out of here T_T. I've been doing everything so far. My mom wouldn't even call a rescue for me, she just wants to take Gizzie to the animal shelter and dump her. :(


I'm sorry Bri but I really don't get your mom. People are willing and ready to help with Gizzie so she doesn't end up at a shelter and she thinks we are all nuts. I would think that if people cared enough to donate their money to help someone elses animals there is a damned good reason for it. I know that if I was in the situation and needed it and people were willing to help me help my cat I would be so grateful. I know you said your mom hates Gizzie and would rather toss her out the door and I also know all the reasons you have told me why she hates her but they are normal behaviors for cats who are unspayed and who are young. I mean I am pretty sure you had your share of issues with Lily and training her and all but there was never an issue there about tossing her away.

I am soooo sorry and I know you love and want to keep Gizzie but is your mom ever going to give her a chance? She will become more calm with the spay but if she really hates her so much will she even care that she has or will she just want to toss her away anyway.

I am sorry if this sounds mean but you know I care about you and your pets. And I want Gizzie to have a good and happy and healthy life. So this is quite upsetting to see how ungrateful your mom is being and how disregardful for those people who want to help, your feelings and for poor little Gizzie too who had the misfortunate to find a home where the adult doesn't want her around it seems no matter what.

Please try to talk to your mom and make sure she is not gonna dump Gizzie but atleast give us a chance to get her spayed and find her a home if we need to. I know there are PTers who can help. I really hope she gives that poor cat a chance. She doesn't deserve this treatment.

((((hugs to you))))
I know it is not your fault and you love Gizzie. You are trying your hardest and I really am sorry your mom doesn't seem to want to help you help Gizzie.

Michelle

[Roxyluvsme13]

Michelle, I know. I will make sure that Gizzie at least gets a chance. I've got my mom to keep her this long, so I think I can let her be able to stay permanently. My mom was just telling me like ten minutes ago how she wished both of the cats were gone and we would keep Lily.. *sigh* She hasn't like Gizzie since we got her.

[kittycats_delight]

Michelle, I know. I will make sure that Gizzie at least gets a chance. I've got my mom to keep her this long, so I think I can let her be able to stay permanently. My mom was just telling me like ten minutes ago how she wished both of the cats were gone and we would keep Lily.. *sigh* She hasn't like Gizzie since we got her.


Oh Bri I am so sorry. I don't know how but some people are just not cat people. I guess your mom is one of them and prefers the little dogs cause if I remember right she is not a big fan of Roxy's either. I wish I knew of something more to help. I wish I was closer too. You know my mom was never a big cat fan either. I mean she liked them well enough but not in her house. That changed after me bringing home Mytsi and after mytsi was gone Lilith & Vixen. She always complained about them but about a year after I left she went and got a cat of her own. And I know there are people on her that are reformed cat haters too. Maybe once she sees how sweet cats can be and if she really gives them half a chance and gets to know then she may be reformed too. I will cross my fingers but not hold my breath.


((((HUGS))))
We are here to help you and Gizzie and when Gizzie is all done then we can work on Skye.

Michelle

[Roxyluvsme13]

Oh Bri I am so sorry. I don't know how but some people are just not cat people. I guess your mom is one of them and prefers the little dogs cause if I remember right she is not a big fan of Roxy's either. I wish I knew of something more to help. I wish I was closer too. You know my mom was never a big cat fan either. I mean she liked them well enough but not in her house. That changed after me bringing home Mytsi and after mytsi was gone Lilith & Vixen. She always complained about them but about a year after I left she went and got a cat of her own. And I know there are people on her that are reformed cat haters too. Maybe once she sees how sweet cats can be and if she really gives them half a chance and gets to know then she may be reformed too. I will cross my fingers but not hold my breath.


((((HUGS))))
We are here to help you and Gizzie and when Gizzie is all done then we can work on Skye.

Michelle
Thanks Michelle. I'm really not much of a cat person myself.. I much rather prefer dogs, but just because of that I'm not going to dump my cat off at an animal shelter.

I doubt she'll ever change her mind to be honest. Skye can be a huge sweetie and she still says she "hates" her. But I don't think she does.

[Catty1]

Luv4cats (I think that is her name) will contact the Banfield Hospital at PetSmart and find out about direct donations. On a referral from Michelle, I PM'd her, no news yet. But that's the plan. :)

[Roxyluvsme13]

Luv4cats (I think that is her name) will contact the Banfield Hospital at PetSmart and find out about direct donations. On a referral from Michelle, I PM'd her, no news yet. But that's the plan. :)
Okay, thanks :D. I appreciate anybody who's donating.. you have no idea how much this means to me.

[jennielynn1970]

Michelle, I know. I will make sure that Gizzie at least gets a chance. I've got my mom to keep her this long, so I think I can let her be able to stay permanently. My mom was just telling me like ten minutes ago how she wished both of the cats were gone and we would keep Lily.. *sigh* She hasn't like Gizzie since we got her.

Is there anyway to keep the kitties and just get rid of MOM?! :p

[Roxyluvsme13]

Is there anyway to keep the kitties and just get rid of MOM?! :p
lol, no. I do love my mom. She just doesn't understand the animals sometimes.

[Catty1]

Okay, I didn't hear from the person I PM'd - so I just faxed the Banfield myself. My letter to them is below(with my contact information left out for this post).

I can be the main contact for now. However, it might be nice to have someone near the area as a backup.

Thanks.
************************************************** *******
Here is the contact info:

Johnson City
3211 Peoples Street,
Johnson City, TN. 37604

Phone: 423-283-9077
Fax: 423-283-0790

Hours of operation:
Monday: Closed
Tuesday: 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM
Wednesday: 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM
Thursday: 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM
Friday: 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM
Saturday: 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM
Sunday: Closed

About this hospital:
This Banfield Hospital offers the highest standard of medical, surgical and preventive care for your Pet. Walk-Ins and new clients are warmly welcomed. Ask about our Optimum Wellness Plans® that provide free office visits and exams for life.

Doctors: James W. Robinson Auburn University

Team: Megan Amanda Martha
************************************************** **

Dear Dr. Robinson and Colleagues:

My name is Candace Carnie. I post on a forum called petoftheday.com with the username Catty1.

A young gal there is on very limited funds, and needs a spay for her cat Giz to help some behaviour problems (and prevent other difficulties!), as well as shots and a checkup. She has financial support from a friend to pay for the spay, but needs some more to cover shots, etc.

Is there a way that those who wish can send money directly to your clinic, and put it towards the credit of this person and her cat? I noted on the internet that you have Wellness Plans, and I know a number of us on Pet Talk would love to help her out.

If your answer is in the affirmative, then I will ask her (first name is Bri, short for Brianna I guess) to set things up with your clinic, and we can set things up from there.

Also need to know what payment types you take. If you take credit cards, does the clinic have a PayPal account?

Thank you very much for your time and attention.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Thank you! :D I hope they respond quickly. I know Dr. Robinson. He has another vet clinic near my house (the same clinic I volunteered at)

[Catty1]

Call him and bug him! :D JK

[Roxyluvsme13]

Call him and bug him! :D JK
LOL, I don't know him personally.. I know who he is, but I don't remember ever meeting him. And besides, the clinic was mean to me and they made me quit volunteering.. AND their prices are outrageous. That's why we stopped taking Roxy there.

[jennielynn1970]

Where are we sending donations?

[Catty1]

Jenn - I just faxed the Banfield on Thursday night, they were closed (not even sure of TN's time zone). When I get an ok, I will let everyone know.

Hey, Bri - you were talking about getting a bird if your mom stopped smoking? Let's get the present zoo all caught up - birds can be expensive too! :) When I was a teenager, my dad had lots of cockatiels - but first we had a single one, named Casey. He was a saucy little guy! lol But I didn't have to clean his cage or buy the food.

Will keep you posted, Bri!

[lvpets2002]

:) My error of the delay to reply for Catty1.. I have been just swamped at work all week.. I will try to get the answer need this weekend.. I was thinking of going to my Pets Mart & to the Banfield Vet clinic so I can talk to them personaly..
Luv4cats (I think that is her name) will contact the Banfield Hospital at PetSmart and find out about direct donations. On a referral from Michelle, I PM'd her, no news yet. But that's the plan. :)

[Roxyluvsme13]

Thanks, everyone. The bird's a no anyways.. :/

[Catty1]

LVPETS2002 - well, I was close! (NOT) :D

I didn't realize there was a Banfield even closer to you. I think the Johnson City one is closer to Bri.

And Bri - should it happen that maybe Giz still needs a new home, I would think this vet hospital would find someone wonderful. But let's see how it goes.

Thanks LVPETS! :)

[Roxyluvsme13]

How's Lvpets gonna help me when she's in TX? :p Anyways, yeah thanks. I dunno if we'll be able to keep her anyways or not. We may have to move soon, and I don't think many people will rent to a 2 dog, 2 cat home.. :/

[Taz_Zoee]

I am just getting caught up on this thread. I am willing to donate my usual $25 when the details are straightened out.
Is there anyone that can find foster care or somewhere for the cats to go when/if Bri and her family have to move?

[Catty1]

Well, I am sure the people at the Banfield Animal Hospital would. I wish they would contact me - but I am kind of far away!

I hope the Banfield folks in TX can contact the ones in TN.

Is anyone else on PT from TN?????

Bri, another thought - if you are moving, and can't take the pets with you, sometimes surrendering them to the shelter means they will get their medical needs taken care of.

How sure are you about moving yet? If it's to another city totally, that would be a real challenge for this fundraising.

We'll see what turns up in TX.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Well, I am sure the people at the Banfield Animal Hospital would. I wish they would contact me - but I am kind of far away!

I hope the Banfield folks in TX can contact the ones in TN.

Is anyone else on PT from TN?????

Bri, another thought - if you are moving, and can't take the pets with you, sometimes surrendering them to the shelter means they will get their medical needs taken care of.

How sure are you about moving yet? If it's to another city totally, that would be a real challenge for this fundraising.

We'll see what turns up in TX.
Well, I don't know. It may be quite a while before we move, and we would be staying in this city. I don't want to leave my city.

I think that there's some other TN PT'ers.. Isn't Jazzcat from TN? And KimLovesCats? And then there's one more.. but my mind is running blank.

I'm pretty sure Gizzie has at least a temporary home if we move, so I think it will be okay.

[Catty1]

Make up your mind, Bri, so we know what to do.

Does she need a home, or spaying?

And what about your other animals.

Sorry if I sound harsh, I don't mean to - but this is turning into a very back-and-forth thing.

I mean - if you want to have surgery for Giz - how hard is it to call the Banfield vet and find out if they take donations?

I had to fax all the way from Canada, and I am happy to do that.

What I am asking is that you decide what is happening with Gizzy.

This 'maybe moving, maybe not' - we need a clear message to help you.

So - what help do you need?

[Roxyluvsme13]

Make up your mind, Bri, so we know what to do.

Does she need a home, or spaying?

And what about your other animals.

Sorry if I sound harsh, I don't mean to - but this is turning into a very back-and-forth thing.

I mean - if you want to have surgery for Giz - how hard is it to call the Banfield vet and find out if they take donations?

I had to fax all the way from Canada, and I am happy to do that.

What I am asking is that you decide what is happening with Gizzy.

This 'maybe moving, maybe not' - we need a clear message to help you.

So - what help do you need?
Well, I really don't know! Just don't worry about us moving.. and I can't call the Banfield hospital, my mom doesn't want me to. As I already said, she doesn't seem to care what happens with this whole spaying thing and she doesn't believe anybody is going to help.

[Catty1]

Well, if she calls the vet and sees about donation, she'll see that we WILL help.

She doesn't know us, I know - and she might feel pretty overwhelmed.

Maybe show her the thread about Shy Guy Aguilar...or have her post here if she wants to check us out.

We'll wait and see what comes in from Texas.

Bri, what time zone is TN on? I should know, but don't! :)

[Roxyluvsme13]

Well, if she calls the vet and sees about donation, she'll see that we WILL help.

She doesn't know us, I know - and she might feel pretty overwhelmed.

Maybe show her the thread about Shy Guy Aguilar...or have her post here if she wants to check us out.

We'll wait and see what comes in from Texas.

Bri, what time zone is TN on? I should know, but don't! :)
Well, still she doesn't care, and she won't post here because she doesn't know how to use the computer. :p

Alright, then.

I'm in the Eastern Time Zone. It is 5:40 p.m. here right now.

[Catty1]

OK - if I can call the Banfield there, now I know the time difference - ahead of me by two hours.

Thanks.

[Catty1]

Bri - if everything works out, do you have a way to get Gizzy to the vet? Could a friend drive you or something? (I am hoping Roxy too, if things go well - but not getting hopes up too high just yet).

[Roxyluvsme13]

Bri - if everything works out, do you have a way to get Gizzy to the vet? Could a friend drive you or something? (I am hoping Roxy too, if things go well - but not getting hopes up too high just yet).
My mom would drive me to the vet if I had the money to pay for everything. Why would Roxy have to go to the vet, too? :confused: She's spayed already?

[kittycats_delight]

I am pretty sure she means Skye. Catty must have thought Roxy was the other cat. Easy enoough to make that mistake. (you always have pirate siggies. :p)


My mom would drive me to the vet if I had the money to pay for everything. Why would Roxy have to go to the vet, too? :confused: She's spayed already?

[Roxyluvsme13]

I am pretty sure she means Skye. Catty must have thought Roxy was the other cat. Easy enoough to make that mistake. (you always have pirate siggies. :p)
Oh, right lol. That would be 100 times of awesomeness if we could have them both spayed.

(yes, because pirates are the best, silly ;) )

[lvpets2002]

:) Catty1 read your PM from me that I just sent.. Ok I am waiting on a phone call today from the Dr. James Robinson.. He will have to preapprove us first.. Then we can donate under The Pet Angel Fund that he has.. Now he owns the Banfield Clinic there = but if we are approved we would have to use his other Vet Clinic {that he owns down the road from Banfield} for the The Pet Angel Fund to cover.. Now we would have to make donations into this fund under the Family & pets names.. Again we have to be approved first & I am waiting to the phone call today..

[Catty1]

Thank you!

Bri - if he says yes, then I think you and your mom would have to put your 'real' names on the fund. Then those of us who want to donate could PM you for the information.

Or, maybe he would do what IMOM does - the donations are made by animal name.

For example, if your last name was Smith, donations would be for Gizzy Smith and Skye Smith. Know what I mean?

So we'll keep our fingers crossed.

We're closer.

And I hope your mom gets a chance to see that 'other people' DO help! :)

[lvpets2002]

:) Yes his assistant stressed we must have a Parent's Full Name & Bri's & babies names.. Dr. Robinson will tell me more when he calls me.. They have me as a contact {here at my work & at home} so I would set the family/names up & with what upfront donation needed to open the account & then note the Thread & Bri of Vet Location & the contact info.. Bri can I get you to PM me with your mom's name & your's & all of your babies names.. Catty1 I am going to PM you again also..
Thank you!

Bri - if he says yes, then I think you and your mom would have to put your 'real' names on the fund. Then those of us who want to donate could PM you for the information.

Or, maybe he would do what IMOM does - the donations are made by animal name.

For example, if your last name was Smith, donations would be for Gizzy Smith and Skye Smith. Know what I mean?

So we'll keep our fingers crossed.

We're closer.

And I hope your mom gets a chance to see that 'other people' DO help! :)

[kittycats_delight]

Wow Helene...you are an angel. You really have gone out of your way to help. :) Thank you so much for all you are doing. Both you and Catty1 really have been in there head first on this one. :)

((((HUGS))))) to you both for all you are doing to make this happen.

Michelle

[Roxyluvsme13]

Aww, I'm about to cry, you guys are too sweet!

So, you need my name, my mom's name, and the two kitties names?

[lvpets2002]

;) No Problem Michelle.. You would do the same for all of us.. I do believe the Pet Angel Fund will work out real well.. Still waiting on the main man Dr. Robinson to call.. He will..
Wow Helene...you are an angel. You really have gone out of your way to help. :) Thank you so much for all you are doing. Both you and Catty1 really have been in there head first on this one. :)

((((HUGS))))) to you both for all you are doing to make this happen.

Michelle

[lvpets2002]

;) Yes please PM with the info.. I need all the babies names that would need anykind of Vet care.. I thought you had 4 babies.. ;)
Aww, I'm about to cry, you guys are too sweet!

So, you need my name, my mom's name, and the two kitties names?

[Roxyluvsme13]

PM sent. I included the names of all 4 of the pets needing Vet care, what they needed, my name, as well as my mom's, and the breed or mix of each pet :).

[lvpets2002]

:) Got It & tnxs.. This away I will already have when Dr. Robinson calls.. So now just waiting on the phone call.. ;)
PM sent. I included the names of all 4 of the pets needing Vet care, what they needed, my name, as well as my mom's, and the breed or mix of each pet :).

[Roxyluvsme13]

*waits* They close in 10 minutes, so he should be calling you soon :p

[cassiesmom]

I'm here in standby mode ... just keeping an eye on this thread ... got paid on the 4th :)

[lvpets2002]

:o MMmm you know how Doctors are about calling :rolleyes: when they darn well want too.. I will try to call into his assistant phone this afternoon or AM & shake up the tree a wittle bit.. :D
*waits* They close in 10 minutes, so he should be calling you soon :p

[Catty1]

Dr. Robinson already has a fax from Canada at his Banfield location (from me!)

[Hellow]

I have one tip on the low fee shots, Get Them From Trusted Places like Petsmart ofr Petco! I used to have a 2 year old cat and we went to go get low fee shots and it made her have a hearing and shedding problem.

I also got them from a not very well known vet.

[Hellow]

Also, i live in northern Georgia, Below Tennesse. If you need me to contact someone in Tennessee tell me who to contact and i will do it. :)

[Roxyluvsme13]

lol, silly doctor :p. I've actually never met him myself..

Reggie, I'm pretty sure my Petsmart doesn't offer Low-cost shots. They have a Banfield, but that's who we're working on getting the shots and spay from right now ;).

And I have a little present for everyone who doesn't know my pets well. I thought you would at least like to know who you're helping :p. Okay, actually it was Michelle's idea.. XD

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n209/JackandLizForeverx3/adv22.jpg
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[Hellow]

Did you read ALL of my second post? I said i could contact them for you, just tell me how and what to say. I canget through to almost anyone and since it is in Tennessee i might be able to contact them. :) :)

[Roxyluvsme13]

Did you read ALL of my second post? I said i could contact them for you, just tell me how and what to say. I canget through to almost anyone and since it is in Tennessee i might be able to contact them. :) :)
YES, I read all of your post. lvpets has ALREADY contacted TN if you had read the rest of the thread ;).

[Hellow]

Well then, tell me how i can help.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Well then, tell me how i can help.
There's nothing you can do right now until we get this fund set up.

[Sevaede]

I have one tip on the low fee shots, Get Them From Trusted Places like Petsmart ofr Petco! I used to have a 2 year old cat and we went to go get low fee shots and it made her have a hearing and shedding problem.

I also got them from a not very well known vet.

Are you talking about the low-cost vaccination clinic/days thing? PetCo is the one that offers that service. :)

[Catty1]

Bri mentioned before that there is no PetCo in their area, just a PetSmart.

[lvpets2002]

:) No no this is not in a PetsCo or a PetsMart or a Banfield Clinic.. This Dr. Robinson {Which owns the Banfield Clinic} has another Vet Clinic which he has The Pet Angel Fund there.. Oh by the way he was not available yesterday & I am to call today..

[Roxyluvsme13]

:) No no this is not in a PetsCo or a PetsMart or a Banfield Clinic.. This Dr. Robinson {Which owns the Banfield Clinic} has another Vet Clinic which he has The Pet Angel Fund there.. Oh by the way he was not available yesterday & I am to call today..
Yay!

[Hellow]

When will we have the fund set up?

[Catty1]

When lvpets2002 hears from the vet - Dr Robinson has to set this up. It could be a day or so yet...

[Roxyluvsme13]

*waits patiently*

I do know that Dr. Robinson is slow at calling back with answers for things.. I found that out when I volunteered at his clinic :p.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Any news yet? :)

[lvpets2002]

:) Not yet = The Dr. was out of office Friday.. Today I am going to try for Linda his head Attendant.. Hang in there.. ok

[Catty1]

I talked to Diane at the Banfield, and then to Linda at the Dr. Robinson's vet office. I did explain that young Bri's mom was getting a little impatient with the kitty that poops out side the box and is just grumpy.

lvpets2002, Linda hadn't heard from you yet....on the voice mail, apparently you have to press Accounting for her and the Pet Angel Fund.

I hope this gets finalized soon....

[lvpets2002]

:) Catty1 == Linda has heard from me now.. Read your PM.. Ok here is the info.. Fund Is Set Up Now under The Pet Angel Fund = Ref: Rhonda Willis (mom) & Briana Phillips.. This is a Must == Make Checks Out to The Pet Angel Fund == Mail:: Checks Attn: Linda [at the] Robinson Animal Hospital 202 W. Watagua Ave. Johnson City, TN 37601 {This is also the Location of where the Pets would be taken for the Medical Attention} Phone # 423-928-1616 Now I will be mailing a check today.. We have to get money in the account before Bri can start using.. I will keep in touch with Linda to check on balance.. Now to take care of all 4 pets = 2 cats & 2 dogs will run us $730.00 .. So Please as we send in money lets note on the thread.. Hope I didnt miss anything.. Your welcome to PM me with questions ok..

[Catty1]

Have $60 CDN check in envelope with note on who it is for, and the right postage on it, it will go in the mail today. We don't have mail processing on Saturdays, so I hope this will get there by week's end.

Today that is $55.69 US.

My last pre-surgical donation! :)

[cassiesmom]

*switches from standby to ready mode* will take care of this tomorrow when I do bills again - thank you, Catty1 and lvpets2002 and everyone else for perseverently seeing this through!

[luckies4me]

I really hope everything works out for this kitty. I was going to let everyone know that Banfield is pretty spendy when it comes to spays/neuters...I work there. ;) Not to mention their shot prices are outrageous, so thank heavens you found another place to go to.

And just a FYI for anyone interested, Banfield's offer vaccine and deworming clinics as well, not just petco's. Each clinic varies on days, so you would have to check with them first to see which day/s they hold the clinics. You still pay full price for vaccines, but you get a free office call during those hours. We do ours every tuesday and thursday from 2-4. :)

I would love to donate, but unfortunately at this time I have literally no money. I'm on maternity leave til July, and will pretty much have no income. :( Thank goodness I have a mother who is still willing to pay my bills. Poor woman. :p

I do hope all goes well. Keep us updated. I'm hoping every pet can get their vet needs taken care of and either Gizzy can stay or find a loving home in which to spend the rest of her days.

Also, as far as the urination goes, you may want to have the clinic do a urinalysis on her. Though it can be caused by hormones, you also want to make sure she doesn't have any underlying illness causing her to urinate in places she shouldn't be.

[Catty1]

Hi, Luckies - I thought Banfield had a Wellness Plan as well, which is maybe more affordable?

That's what I initially had in mind for Bri.

But glad this has worked out!

[Roxyluvsme13]

Yayyy!!!!! :D So, $730? :eek: Wow. lol. My mom just said Oh sh**! *giggle* She said she doesn't want you all to do this for us, I think she feels bad for me asking for money. But oh well, we certainly can't afford all of this right now.

Thank you all so, so much! ***HUGS*** and ***KISSES*** from Bri, Roxy, Lily, Skye, Gizzie, and My mommy. <3

And oh, Do you think Gizzie really NEEDS a urinalysis?

[Catty1]

But WE want to do all of this for you! :D This includes your mom! :)

Bri, if you have a MySpace or anywhere else to crosspost, go for it.


And oh, Do you think Gizzie really NEEDS a urinalysis?
Ask the vet!

Catty1

[Roxyluvsme13]

But WE want to do all of this for you! :D This includes your mom! :)

Bri, if you have a MySpace or anywhere else to crosspost, go for it.


Ask the vet!

Catty1
lol, Aw. <33

I do have a Myspace, but my friends wouldn't donate *giggle*

Then I'd need more money, haha. So, is the fund like a forever thing that people can add to forever or is it just a temporary thing or something?

[Catty1]

This fund is in yours and your mom's name. lvpets2002 has more info, so PM her for the details. :)

[lvpets2002]

:) Bri I am hoping for the Pet Angel Fund in Your & Mom's names will get up to $1,000.00 & then we re-evaluate the staus of the surroundings & go from there.. This money now Bri is strickley for your babies ok.. So now the hard part is done.. Lets do the easy part & get this on a roll & the money headed in.. **Again Please EveryOne read my above Post #95 on Who to make the Checks Payable too & Attn: Linda & the Complete Address.. Many Thanks to all at PT..
lol, Aw. <33
I do have a Myspace, but my friends wouldn't donate *giggle*

Then I'd need more money, haha. So, is the fund like a forever thing that people can add to forever or is it just a temporary thing or something?

[Roxyluvsme13]

Alright, thank youu! :D

[Catty1]

Bri - even if your friends can give $5 each...that could add up to a bit. Why not try?

Just a thought.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Alright, I will ask some of them. Do you know if the money can be foreign currency?

[Jods]

I'm curious to what exactly this money is for? I know your getting one cat spayed and her shots, but are all her animals in need of being fixed? Is that why the vet needs 730$?? And this money is going directly to the vet right? Not to her or her mom? Just checking to be safe.

[Roxyluvsme13]

I'm curious to what exactly this money is for? I know your getting one cat spayed and her shots, but are all her animals in need of being fixed? Is that why the vet needs 730$?? And this money is going directly to the vet right? Not to her or her mom? Just checking to be safe.
None of the money whatsoever goes to me or my mom. It's all for my pets and their shots. The money goes into a fund and then I can use that money from the fund when I take them all to the vet.

Both of my cats, and 1 of my dogs need to be spayed, and the 2 cats, and 2 dogs all need their shots and examinations.

[Roxyluvsme13]

Okay everyone, PLEASE, do not get mad at me for this. But the money is urgently needed. I just discovered Skye has worms, and it's probably already spread to Lily and Gizzie. Probably why Skye has been running around meowing all night. UGH.

And can I just add how horrible I really feel? Because now they're all going to have worms and my mom doesn't get her check till Thursday and even then she probably won't have the money to pay for a vet bill, and I seriously feel like the worst pet owner ever.

[crow_noir]

Are you talking roundworms, the ones that come out in fecal matter?

If so i have an inexpensive home remedy for you until you get the funds to take them in...

FOOD GRADE Diatomaceous Earth. You should be able to get it at any garden type store. make sure it is NOT for pools. (Pool grade is highly toxic. The pet food recall has nothing on how fast pool grade DE will kill a pet.)

Mix a bit of this up in some broth or gravy (NOT WARMED... adding heat to DE can make it toxic!) and possibly some canned cat food of you have some. (<--- This is to make it palatable for them.) 1/4 teaspoon of the powder to about 2 Tablespoons of liquid. = one dose for each kitty. (about 1/4 teaspoon for every 10lbs of body weight.) give this about 12 hours apart for the first day. then give three days after that, then three days after that. (By then you should be able to get them into the vet and have them tested for all sorts of other things. If they aren't put on something else... give this to them again five days after the second third day, and then again after another three days. This schedule is for a known infestation of roundworm. The first part is a just in case.)

And before anyone worries about the safety of this or how effective this is... I've used it on four animals and even used it myself (just to be on the safe side.)

Edit: Forgot to say... a 2lb box/bag around here costs between $3 - $12. I don't understand the huge difference in price, but i wanted to give you an idea of how much to expect to pay. It's not much considering that a 2 lb box lasts a long time and DE is so versatile. (It's highly effect on fire ants!)


Okay everyone, PLEASE, do not get mad at me for this. But the money is urgently needed. I just discovered Skye has worms, and it's probably already spread to Lily and Gizzie. Probably why Skye has been running around meowing all night. UGH.

And can I just add how horrible I really feel? Because now they're all going to have worms and my mom doesn't get her check till Thursday and even then she probably won't have the money to pay for a vet bill, and I seriously feel like the worst pet owner ever.

[Roxyluvsme13]

But really at the moment we don't even have the money to buy that stuff.. my mom doesn't have a steady job again at the moment.. and we're in another rough spot. :(

[crow_noir]

:( That bites...

I wish i lived (a LOT) closer. I'd drop some off to you.

The post office isn't too fond of white powders either. :p


But really at the moment we don't even have the money to buy that stuff.. my mom doesn't have a steady job again at the moment.. and we're in another rough spot.

[Kfamr]

WOW, it's pretty nice that Pet Talk can pay for someone else's pets. Wish someone could give me free handouts when it came to vet bills. I've had incredibly difficult times paying for vet bills in the past but I couldn't imagine asking anyone to pay for something that *I* brought on myself.

I work a low paying job and pay for all of the care and necessities of 4 large dogs, including vet, food, collars, toys, etc.

I understand an emergency (ex:Raven's Cancer) but this is something that every pet owner should be able to pay for - or they should not own animals.

I am glad her pets are getting the care they need now, though.

[luckies4me]

Hi, Luckies - I thought Banfield had a Wellness Plan as well, which is maybe more affordable?

That's what I initially had in mind for Bri.

But glad this has worked out!


Heh, I get to talk about work. Good thing, as I'm having major contractions right now and the baby might come tonight, so this is a good distraction.

Yes, Banfield has wellness plans, BUT if the cat is over 6 months of age it will not cover the spay, and she would be enrolled into an adult plan. The plans are for a year, and you are bound to the contract even if something happens to the pet...you get rid of the animal, it passes away, runs away etc. There is a one time membership fee, and it varies based on what plan you choose. There are 4 plans, Primary, Basic, Basic Plus and Optimum. If it's an adult cat the Basic Plus plans covers a set of blood work, as does the Basic, though now that they just changed things if you go with a Basic Plus plan the cat can only use the blood work during a dental procedure, which may not be a bad thing is the cat also needs a dental cleaning. It will also cover vaccines, though unfortunately it no longer covers FIV/FELV testing and they swapped that out for the feline heartworm antigen test. Sorry if there are typos...kind of painful at the moment. You get free office calls for the whole year, and depending on what plan you enroll on you get a certain percentage off services that are not covered under the plan, such as medications etc. They also cover general deworming, but deworming for tapeworms isn't included.

Trying to breathe...need anymore info. I got lots more where that came from. That's just a basic overview. Oh ya, there's a one time membership fee and then you pay a certain amount per months depending on which plan you choose, and it's automatic deduction. So like, VISA, Mastercard, Discover, checking or savings, or you can choose to pay the plan year in full.

[shais_mom]

WOW, it's pretty nice that Pet Talk can pay for someone else's pets. Wish someone could give me free handouts when it came to vet bills. I've had incredibly difficult times paying for vet bills in the past but I couldn't imagine asking anyone to pay for something that *I* brought on myself.

I work a low paying job and pay for all of the care and necessities of 4 large dogs, including vet, food, collars, toys, etc.

I understand an emergency (ex:Raven's Cancer) but this is something that every pet owner should be able to pay for - or they should not own animals.
I see a voice of reason. Kay I know you and I don't see eye to eye a lot but you are RIGHT on the MONEY (no pun intended) on this one....
I just found this thread tonite and was sooo STUNNED that someone would have the BALLS to ask for money for BASIC vet care for their pets I couldn't even comphrehend. Congratulations you made me speechless, and that sure as HE!! does NOT happen very often.
I am truly, deeply, honestly very very sorry that you and your mom struggle like you do. I very truly am. I know you think I am a big fat meanie but I really truly am sorry you are dealt with this hand in life, it sucks for you. And while I understand that you LOVE your animals, you have to do what is best for them and honestly sometimes giving up that animal is what is best for them. And if you and your mom are in such dire financial straights your animals can't be getting the care that they need, and I am not talking even basic vet care, I'm talking food. If you are struggling to put food on your table STOP BRINGING IN MORE ANIMALS!! 2 dogs and 2 cats (plus???) are a lot for a person with a good paying steady job.
Pet Talkers are a generous bunch of souls but this is just flabbergasting to me....

[luckies4me]

Crow_noir, roundworms rarely show up in fecal matter unless they get very bad. They look much like spaghetti and are usually vomited up. The ones most commonly seen are tapeworm segments, which look like tiny specks of white rice. Recommending something like that probably isn't a good idea. She could easily take the cat to a deworming clinic to get them dewormed by a vet who knows what they are doing, and Petsmart sells Tapeworm Tabs over the counter that work very well, Praziquantal...or however it is spelled. It's the equivalent of Drontal or Droncit and will kill not only tapes, but roundworms and hookworms. Just because you used this remedy (which sounds very sketchy to me) doesn't mean it is safe to use!

And not to jump on the bandwagon here but I wholeheartedly agree with Shais_mom and Kay!

[wolf_Q]

I agree completely with Kay and Staci. And to think about getting another pet (cockatiel) with all of this too?

In the past couple of months I have spent roughly $600 in vet bills for my dogs. Sure it would be nice to get some help with vet bills but I would never ask for that, I'm the one that made the commitment to having them. If there was an emergency I know Pet Talk would be there for me as they have for so many other people...I feel that is one of the most amazing things about this forum. But anyone who has a pet should be able to pay for spay/neuter and routine vet care.

[shais_mom]

And not to jump on the bandwagon here but I wholeheartedly agree with Shais_mom and Kay!
I think you just might have that baby tonite/today. You and I and Kay and I all agreeing on the same subject - something's GOT TO happen! ;)
:p
please take that in the context I mean it also - lighthearted- I do wish you well tho! Goodluck baby!

[shais_mom]

I agree completely with Kay and Staci. And to think about getting another pet (cockatiel) with all of this too?

In the past couple of months I have spent roughly $600 in vet bills for my dogs. Sure it would be nice to get some help with vet bills but I would never ask for that, I'm the one that made the commitment to having them. If there was an emergency I know Pet Talk would be there for me as they have for so many other people...I feel that is one of the most amazing things about this forum. But anyone who has a pet should be able to pay for spay/neuter and routine vet care.
I agree - Keegan's abscess drainage alone was $222. And that was simple. Only one nite in the clinic. I could have had her spayed like TWICE or more for that!

[luckies4me]

I think you just might have that baby tonite/today. You and I and Kay and I all agreeing on the same subject - something's GOT TO happen! ;)
:p
please take that in the context I mean it also - lighthearted- I do wish you well tho! Goodluck baby!

LOL You might be right! I've already been to the hospital once tonight, contractions weren't super regular. Now they are about 5 minutes apart and lasting between 90 sec to 3 minutes each. I just took an Ambient though so now I'm pretty loopy...and I mean loopy! Hoping I can get a little sleep before I go back to the hospital, which is tomorrow morning. :eek:

[Uabassoon]

Like others, I also am curious as to why this fund is being set up. Just last week Bri wanted to add another pet to the house, why keep adding more pets when you can't care for the ones that you have. I know that you have had Lily around for a while, it's been well over a year. Why did you get another cat when you already couldn't afford to spay Lily, a dog which you already owned and have made a commitment to? Now I do realize that what's done is done, you have these pets and now they must be cared for. They need to get their shots and they need to fixed before the problem escalates. My main concern is that you still want more pets. The other thing that bugs me is this comment that was made just a few days ago when someone expressed concern about you getting another pet.


[QUOTE=Roxyluvsme13]Because I can get my pets spayed this summer with my summer job? And I can let my mom get me the bird, and then after my pets are spayed the rest of my money can go towards the bird..

Why are you asking for donations if you will be getting a job in a few weeks once the school year ends?

[Catty1]

LOOK! Someone who is 14 years old is gonna want a bird without necessarily getting one...might think that her summer job will pay the $730 before one cat is kicked out...please remember Bri's age!

Several of us have worked our a***** off to get this set up! DON'T donate if you don't want to - but for GOD'S sake, if you have something negative to say, SHUT UP!

Do you think the several of us who are setting this up have NO brains whatsoever???? Or the vets?

There are people on Pet Talk with two regular jobs in the household who STILL find they need $$ help for their pets' care. So tell me again why you are picking on an underemployed single-parent family?

End of rant.

[Vela]

WOW, it's pretty nice that Pet Talk can pay for someone else's pets. Wish someone could give me free handouts when it came to vet bills. I've had incredibly difficult times paying for vet bills in the past but I couldn't imagine asking anyone to pay for something that *I* brought on myself.

I work a low paying job and pay for all of the care and necessities of 4 large dogs, including vet, food, collars, toys, etc.

I understand an emergency (ex:Raven's Cancer) but this is something that every pet owner should be able to pay for - or they should not own animals.

I am glad her pets are getting the care they need now, though.

I was going to post the same thing last night but then I decided not to. I wasn't sure how to say it really I guess. Basic vet care is something you should be able to cover on your own or stop getting more animals and talking about getting more animals. The animals in the home were already NOT getting basic vet care before more were brought in and to me it's enabling them to get more pets and not have to take responsibility, rather than helping. Enabling is not helping in the end. I also found it pretty ballsy that after all of that was set up (which WAS/IS very kind of all of those set up in the first place), the OP actually requested MORE money and wanted to know if it was an ongoing fund so people could contniue to care for their pets???? Yes vet care is expensive, but it's not everyone elses responsbility. This is not an emergency that suddenly popped up, this is a long term ongoing problem.

I also am glad the pets are getting the care they need, but I see it setting up a bad pattern. So what happens next year for shots, heartworm testing and meds, etc etc? This started out as 35 dollars to spay one cat so it wasn't rehomed, and suddenly it's basic vet care for all of the animals to the tune of a thousand dollars, then they ask for MORE because they found worms??? Incredible.

I am very sorry about the hard time you guys have gone through, but if that's the case, even though you love your animals, if you can't provide the basic common care of owning them, sometimes the best thing you can do is rehome them. This is not a one time thing, this is a chronic problem and your animals have never gotten the vet care they need, and more keep being added. Just for the future, when some people are offering to do so much already, please don't ask for more, that is honestly in poor taste.


Edited to add: If this was an emergency, I would be happy to donate, but it is not. It's basic routine care and should be saved up for by the owners to do a little at a time, like everyone else has to do. LOTS of people have money problems, but you have to have priorities. If you can buy your cigarettes, cell phone, internet, etc. you ought to be able to set aside a few dollars to save up for vet care.

[Cinder & Smoke]

Basic vet care is something you should be able to cover on your own
or stop getting more animals and talking about getting more animals.

So what happens next year for shots, heartworm testing and meds, etc etc?

This started out as 35 dollars to spay one cat so it wasn't rehomed,
and suddenly it's basic vet care for all of the animals to the tune of a thousand dollars,
then they ask for MORE because they found worms???
Incredible.

This is not a one time thing, this is a chronic problem and
your animals have never gotten the vet care they need, and more keep being added.

If you can buy your cigarettes, cell phone, internet, etc.
you ought to be able to set aside a few dollars to save up for vet care.

Excellent points!

I tried to write a similar reply a few days ago; then thought better of it.
I don't want to appear to be jumping on when someone's down;
but this whole plan seems to be a stretch of the Pet Talker Good Will and
desire to help.

/s/ Phred

[Catty1]

I think when Bri asked if it was an ongoing fund - my impression was she was asking if it was a general fund for all pets at the clinic, not an endless fountain for her animals. She was answered that it was for her pets alone.

And, by rights, her mom should have all these questions - internet, smoking etc, - addressed to her - but Bri says she doesn't know how to use the computer.

Bri's initial post was to find Gizzy a home - I am sure rehoming offers would be valid, but the initial reaction to this by a couple of folks was to try and get Gizzy spayed so she would settle down and perhaps not have to be rehomed.

I initially had hoped that contributions could be made to pay for the Banfield Vet Wellness plan - VERY affordable by the month, and different plans cover different things. That wouldn't have cost anyone very much, and I am sure Bri and her mom could carry on with it afterwards, which is why I wanted to go that route. Just buy the appropriate wellness plan, and away we go - and if Bri and her mom could carry on afterwards, it WOULD be a hand up as opposed to a perceived handout.

For some reason, Dr Robinson, the vet at the Banfield where Bri lives, wanted to do this through his OWN clinic's fund - hence the $730.00.

Perhaps rehoming the pets should be a condition of this funding?

Anyone willing to adopt?

Suggestions welcome.

[kittycats_delight]

I am very disheartened by the way this thread is turning out. This thread was originally started to find Gizzie a new home as Catty1 already said. The problem was no one had any suggestions. The shelter in Bri's area is a KILL shelter and to stop Gizzie from being tossed into a KILL shelter and 9 chances out of 10 ending up dead which she certainly does deserve the suggestion of spaying Gizzie was brought up. If donated a couple of bucks to save this cats life was the solution then so be it. I would rather see that happen than poor Gizzie lose her life through no fault of her own.

Yes their vaccinations and spays should have been something that was dealt with but there were unforeseen circumstances in this situation that happened after the animals were obtained. Bri had both cats and dogs before things turned bad. Her mom lost her job, they had a break in and lost a lot of things and almost got evicted. It has been a long climb for her mom (a single mother) to get back on her feet.

I think considering if anyone can come up with a better solution here I would love to hear it. And like I said before if it means Gizzie losing her life or putting up a few buck to get her spayed then I vote for the few bucks. I have already voluteered to help from the beginning. I don't want to see this cat killed because we feel they were not responsible. That doesn't make things right by any means.

If you don't want to help don't. If you have other suggestions as to how to solve this please say so but do not slam a 14 year old child and single mother for this. And with all due respect Bri is 14 what kind of job do you honestly think she can get to be able to pay a vet bill of $730? And considering her mom is not steadily employed now don't you think it will be possible if she does get a job that some of her money will have to go to help keep them afloat?


Michelle

[Cinder & Smoke]

If you don't want to help, don't.

If you have other suggestions as to how to solve this please say so ...


Some of us have objected to the family's desire to ADD more Pets to an already crowded home;
and the mention of possibly "moving" and needing to rehome the critters.

It seems to me that the well being of the Animals is not always (if ever)
being considered as a family priority.

/s/ Phred

[kittycats_delight]

Some of us have objected to the family's desire to ADD more Pets to an already crowded home;
and the mention of possibly "moving" and needing to rehome the critters.

It seems to me that the well being of the Animals is not always (if ever)
being considered as a family priority.

/s/ Phred

Phred I have spoke with Bri privately and she knows she cannot handle the pets she has not let alone more but she is only 14 and sometimes kids don't think about what happens next. They just know they want it and that's that. I know and you know and many others know that it is not possible and if someone takes the time to sit and talk to the younger person they too come to realize it is not possible.

I also know that it seems the animals are not the family's main priority but when you are wondering how you can get your next rent paid or if you will have work next week I think a lot of thing lose perspective. They are in a bad place and need to re-evaluate the entire situation. But really if we could not manage to find a home for one cat how are we going to find a home for 2 cats and 2 dogs? If their only choice is to keep the animals and struggle or send them to a KILL shelter what is the choice to make. Would either of us if we were stuggling choose to send our babies to a place where they would most likely be killed within a week or keep them with us and look after them and ourselves the best way we could. It is not an easy situation. Bri does love her pets but she is only 14 and her mom is trying to the best of her ability to provide for herself and her child and her childs pets. It has to be hard for her mom too knowing that her daugther loves these animals and they can't provide for them as they should.

Do we really want these animals sent to a shelter where they will lose their lives or do we want them to stay where they at least have half a chance. Bri has searched for homes and has come up short. What now? It is obvious if she is in a place where there is only a kill shelter that it may not be so simple as you might think to find the right solution here.

Michelle

[shais_mom]

The ONLY thing that I think is good about this is that the money goes directly to the clinic.
I really don't think that we are bringing negative statements into this thread - just voicing concern. No one implied that ANYONE didn't have a brain in their head, Catty - sheesh. Now who turns it Nasty?
I'm sorry but I see a HISTORY here. HISTORY.
This is the family that couldn't afford vet care for one dog and it died, and then turned around and shelled out $$$ a month or 2 later for another pom and since then more animals.
This is the same child who last year in one thread said they didn't have enough money to pay rent or buy food but was thinking about asking for a $300 camera for her birthday. Then asked if anyone had an memory card to give her. Do you see what I'm saying? It doesn't seem like its never enough and I do understand that she is 14. But @ 14 I would not have the guts to ask for the things she has to us and to her mother, and while I do understand that its the animals lives @ stake but doing this is just enabling her to think that we owe her something and that she will carry thru the rest of her life. I am not implying she would be UNGRATEFUL @ all, before you put words in my mouth and imply that. I'm sure she would be grateful but what about next year when she gets another dog or another cat and wants money then?
I honestly think in my heart, that she has seen us give money to several people who have needed it over the couple years she has been here, and now she thinks it is her turn.

[Ginger's Mom]

I have purposely not come to this thread at all since it was brought to my attention by Brianna posting a plea for help in Dog General. I knew that I would become angry and upset. But, now that I have, I see that I am not the only one who feels this way. Michelle and Catty1 I truly believe that you are both very good ladies who have only the best interest of the animals at heart, and I applaud you and your good hearts for that. But, I also believe in this case you are enabling a situation that should never have happened to continue. Do I want these animals taken to a kill shelter and put to sleep, of course not. Do I want any true animal lover's pet (as I believe Bri is) taken to a shelter and put to sleep? Again the answer is no. But I do not have the money, time, patience, nor do I feel it is my place to right the wrongs of every irresponsible pet owner out there. I feel for Bri and her mother. They need to take care of themselves first and never should have brought the animals into the situation that they did. It is nice of you ladies to want to help. But do not chastise those that feel differently than you do. I personally think that anyone who really wanted to help these animals would be putting much more time and effort into finding suitable homes for these animals than in collecting money for a temporary fix.

[Kfamr]

I am not sure they are as bad off as a few of you seem to think.

I know that if I couldn't care for my pets routine check-ups, spaying/neutering, etc. that I would not have a cell phone, internet, computer (that apparently only the teenager in the home uses), and constantly buying movie-themed items. To me, that's someone who is pretty well off and should be able to pay for 4+ animals.

There are things in life that we need to give up to be RESPONSIBLE pet owners. If we cannot afford something, then we should not have it.

Heck, Mufasa was sprung on us. We didn't expect to pay $400 something for his first check-ups. We didn't expect to spend close to $500 4 months previous to that for Kiara while she was missing - I didn't even work that whole week! It's just something we had to do - and yes, I had to give up some of my guilty pleasures - I didn't buy anything for myself for a while, just the bare necessities. Don't see me asking for a "Kay's Crew Fund."

After having a job for nearly 2 year now, I just NOW got cell phone a month or so ago.

Point being, I would give up everything to be sure of my pets well being - if that meant not going out with friends, not buying anything but necessities, etc, then so be it. And YES, I have been in a situation where there was only 1 source of income in our home - with 5 people and 1 dog on a fast food related income. Simba didn't receive any less - we had our necessities, he had his necessities. And YES, I was "only 14" or even younger.

And NO ONE needs to tell ANYONE to "SHUT UP." That is incredibly uncalled for. This is a public discussion board and I am sorry not everyone agrees with your opinion.

It's great that a few of you are trying to help, however, it seems this is just a free ride. If they aren't paying for routine vet care now (which I was almost sure that we were told they were previously) who's to say they are going to down the road? This is just a similar story over and over from this child and all this is going to do is enable the situation.

[shais_mom]

Also know that I am not implying that anyones brains are in the wrong place, as CATTY1 implied that I/we were. And I KNOW that people's hearts are definately in the right place.
I have a question Michelle, but won't ask it here. I will PM you, and I hope you will answer it.

ETA:
I agree with Kay - I didn't think ANY ONE was being rude or negative until CATTY1 told us to SHUT UP.
I wasn't going to say anything @ first even tho I 100% DISAGREE with this - I know its going happen regardless. If that is what Pet Talker's want to do with their money, so be it. I just hope that when a pet comes up TRULY in need, that this doesn't burn them out. B/c it certainly would me.
I think if she wouldn't have put requests in each of the general sections to make it appear begging that emotions wouldn't be quite so high for some people.

[Catty1]

Folks - I am very short tempered right now, had a meltdown yesterday - I haven't had major surgery in my whole life, and it is happening Tuesday. I apologize. :(

It was deliberate that we set things up so money would go to the fund directly. That way, no accidents happen.

If you folks have ideas for rehoming Bri's animals, then maybe send her a PM. I am way up here in Canada and have no idea what is in TN.

Maybe Dr Robinson has clients that would adopt them? I don't know. Maybe they would chip in for the surgeries and stuff.

But I am getting to the end of having time to do anything.

I have sent in my donation. If the funds come in and they are not used for the specific fund in a month's time, the $$ will be allocated to other needy pets.

I mean...not easy to rehome an unspayed pet.

Again, ideas and other solutions are welcome.

[Vela]

Catty I truly wish you well with the surgery, I know it can be very stressful (not trying to derail the thread) and I know you have good intentions in this whole thing, as well as Michelle.


Trust me I KNOW what it's like to have hard times. I've eaten out of garbage cans as a young child and lived on my own since I was 16, so there is no need to tell me about age either. There are priorities in life that people have to learn to make for themselves. I do not want anyone's pets to suffer or be put to sleep, but honestly it was the attitude it was brought forth with that made it seem so frustrating I guess.

Just last month she was begging people to buy her items on ebay for 20-40 dollars and she would send them the money. If she had that last month she should have used it on her pets. She's had money to buy other fish and other things, wants 300 dollar cameras, but not save it up for what her pets need, then with a glib fashion of "oh well we can't afford it, please give me money" she asks for people to take care of basic care for her pets. It's about proirities, and making them if you are going to be a pet owner. It's time to grow up and stop being selfish and if you are going to have the pets, take care of them, not buy yourself things.

I do understand right now they are in a tight spot, but the animals went without those shots ,etc this long, the only priority should be spaying the one cat to stop the problems. I also still feel they should be rehomed to take the stress off of her mom about putting food in their mouths but since I can't do anything about it, I don't live there, I can't say you need to rehome them. I feel bad for the situation, but some of it just comes down to choices. I hope it all works out in the end.

[Whisk_Luva]

Just last month she was begging people to buy her items on ebay for 20-40 dollars and she would send them the money. If she had that last month she should have used it on her pets. She's had money to buy other fish and other things, wants 300 dollar cameras, but not save it up for what her pets need, then with a glib fashion of "oh well we can't afford it, please give me money" she asks for people to take care of basic care for her pets. It's about proirities, and making them if you are going to be a pet owner. It's time to grow up and stop being selfish and if you are going to have the pets, take care of them, not buy yourself things.
I do understand right now they are in a tight spot, but the animals went without those shots ,etc this long, the only priority should be spaying the one cat to stop the problems. I also still feel they should be rehomed to take the stress off of her mom about putting food in their mouths but since I can't do anything about it, I don't live there, I can't say you need to rehome them. I feel bad for the situation, but some of it just comes down to choices. I hope it all works out in the end.


I agree totally with you Vela! Well said. Anyway, it SEEMED (i am not saying this is true) but on gabber one time * (*= not mentioning names) asked Bri if she still ws getting rid of her cat for a dog of something like that. When I asked about it I was told it was 'none of my buisness' so I do not know for sure whether I am right or wrong. PERSONALLY I do not want to give money because:
a: I just dont have a clue about the whole dog thing (and I dont take to kindly to being told its 'none of my buisness'.... then being told that she 'hates me')
b: What if more pets arrive after this and others go to a shelter?

I am sorry Bri.

[Roxyluvsme13]

First of all, most of you don't even know half the story. You have no idea what hell I've been through in the past six months and you don't know how hard we've tried to keep these animals alive.

And don't even mention rehoming. They're my life. And my everything. And without them, I probably wouldn't be here typing right now.

My mom has made some big mistakes in her life, and I have as well. But you know what? We made it, and the animals made it. And I'm not "begging" for money.

I'm asking for help for MY animal's sakes, not my own, because I'm not going to go dump them in a shelter to die and rot like it seems you all want me to do.

And really. I didn't ASK for your god***m opinions, and I don't want to hear them. My mom has every intention of taking Skye to the vet, but of course, I'll get bashed for that too probably. :rolleyes:

And THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN ONLY BASH ME, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS You're always the people that target me because I'm not as perfect pet owners as yourselves. Oh no.

And I do thank you Michelle and Candace, for standing up for me and actually understanding I don't have much control over what goes on.

And I also thank the people who have donated or are planning on donating, especially Helene, who I wouldn't be helping my pets without!

[lvpets2002]

:p :p :cool: :cool:

Ok Now Thats Enough You Guys ==


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Lets All Just Chill Out Here

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Lets Stop & Think About What We Are Saying

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Lets Take A Deep Breath & Smile & Love Each

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[kittycats_delight]

Helene you are great!!!! I love ya huney....you are always the voice of reason and always want everyone to get along. You are an angel. :D

(((HUGS)))
Michelle

BTW...love those toesie pics. :p

QUOTE=lvpets2002]:p :p :cool: :cool:

Ok Now Thats Enough You Guys ==


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Lets All Just Chill Out Here

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Lets Stop & Think About What We Are Saying

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Lets Take A Deep Breath & Smile & Love Each

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[K9soul]

Reacting with humility and calmness even in the face of adversity will always get you much farther in life.

[Whisk_Luva]

I said I am sorry but I just cant.

I didnt mention Skye at all and I am sure you have every intention of taking her to the vets. I am not saying you are a bad owner, far from it, your a very good owner... (Do NOT say your not as perfect owner as everyone else coz you are ok?) I just dont know... I am 13 and I dont have loadsa money to give out and with what other people have said......

Bri I dont hate you. I want to be friends, but you told me you hated me... can we just like start again or something?

PS. I dont even know who Skye is! lol! :confused: ;) :confused:

PSS. Like the name Skye!

[Alysser]

This thread is getting out of hand.

Can we ALL just stop fighting??? GEEZ!

I know, many of you are concerned about the well-being of Bri's pets, and about her getting more pets, as well as me. I don't agree with all of her decisions and actions. I didn't agree with her getting a bird, or even Gizzie but this really isn't the point. What's DONE IS DONE!

She is asking for help now, not being bashed. I for one, am praising her for not just abandoning the cat on someone else's shoulders. She is trying to prevent an animal from dying IN a friggin' shelter. Give her SOME credit!

Pettalk is swimming in sadness right now, with all the sick pets and people, I don't understand why there is a need to add more TENSION as it is.

Can we all just STOP this fight now?

[Roxyluvsme13]

This thread is getting out of hand.

Can we ALL just stop fighting??? GEEZ!

I know, many of you are concerned about the well-being of Bri's pets, and about her getting more pets, as well as me. I don't agree with all of her decisions and actions. I didn't agree with her getting a bird, or even Gizzie but this really isn't the point. What's DONE IS DONE!

She is asking for help now, not being bashed. I for one, am praising her for not just abandoning the cat on someone else's shoulders. She is trying to prevent an animal from dying IN a friggin' shelter. Give her SOME credit!

Pettalk is swimming in sadness right now, with all the sick pets and people, I don't understand why there is a need to add more TENSION as it is.

Can we all just STOP this fight now?
Thank you, Alyssa.

If you people actually read you would know I'm not getting the bird..

And as I already said. I make mistakes. I'm not as perfect as the rest of you with all your money.

[dogzr#1]

Please stop all the fighting! It is frustrating me and I'm not even the one who is getting bashed!

You guys don't know most of the story. Her mom makes Bri take care of all the animals, basically. She cleans up for all of them and takes care of them all by herself. Yes, some of you are going to say that you did the same thing but considering what they have been through in the past couple of months, I think it's quite an improvement.

As most of you can remember, her mom lost her job, they lost almost everything because of a break in and yet, her mom still let her keep the animals. If it was my family, my mom would've made me get rid of them. However, Bri fought for them to stay and she succeeded but now she is still on shaky legs and needs help to pay for some vet care.

I have no idea how all of Bri's threads turn out into some sort of argument. Please look at yourselves. Most of you guys are adults who yes, may have problems with their own family and my sympathy goes out to you, but you are bashing a 14 year old girl asking for help because her animals may go to a kill shelter and DIE! She doesn't have the ability to go out and find a job and help her mom pay for everything. She can't automatically increase her age by two or three years so she can go find a job. She is pretty much helpless right now. Yes I'm sure she can go do those little things like cut lawns and stuff, but I know that won't get her that much money. She also may not have the equipment or her mom may not let her. I know my mom wouldn't let me go out alone and do all these jobs. I'm sure she wants to raise her own money but she probably can't because of her parent's restrictions.

Please stop all this fighting. It doesn't help at all, and I know that it hurts Bri more than you know. I talk to her a lot on IM and she is always really upset at all this bashing. Her self esteem drops like crazy and she has even told me she thinks she's the worst pet owner ever and that her pets should be given away...She herself has said that because of all the bashing going on through all her years on PT. Yes, I know you guys are concerned for her but even if you don't think you're rude, make sure to double check the way other people may interpret you're post. It may help a lot.

And many (((HUGS))) to Bri because I know she needs them right now.

Sorry for such a long post, I couldn't help myself. :p

[Catty1]

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Just a bit of cute....

If there are folks here who have decided to donate, the info is in post 95. :)

Thank you.

[jennielynn1970]

But really at the moment we don't even have the money to buy that stuff.. my mom doesn't have a steady job again at the moment.. and we're in another rough spot. :(

Not to be mean, but if you don't have the money for the pets, and you can't take care of them, why do you have so many of them??

Seriously... I mean, is this going to be a yearly thing where it is just "Pay for our pets to be vetted."

Part of being a responsible pet owner is having the funding to take care of them. I don't think it's right that an owner (whatever the ages may be) should be relying on a bunch of people who have HUGE hearts to take care of their animals for them.

I'm just getting tired of people who have pets and can't pay for their vet care, and expect others to do it for them. :mad: What other "luxuries"(extras) are being given up by the owner to take care of the pets? I mean, if everyone is still eating out, using cell phones, smoking cigs, then priorities are messed up.

I'm not picking on Bri, I'm just saying I see her asking for money for all of her pets, but what is her family putting into their upkeep?

[Catty1]

Here is her "family", Jenn.



As most of you can remember, her mom lost her job, they lost almost everything because of a break in and yet, her mom still let her keep the animals. If it was my family, my mom would've made me get rid of them. However, Bri fought for them to stay and she succeeded but now she is still on shaky legs and needs help to pay for some vet care.

Single mom. That's the whole family.

[jennielynn1970]

LOOK! Someone who is 14 years old is gonna want a bird without necessarily getting one...might think that her summer job will pay the $730 before one cat is kicked out...please remember Bri's age!

Several of us have worked our a***** off to get this set up! DON'T donate if you don't want to - but for GOD'S sake, if you have something negative to say, SHUT UP!

Do you think the several of us who are setting this up have NO brains whatsoever???? Or the vets?

There are people on Pet Talk with two regular jobs in the household who STILL find they need $$ help for their pets' care. So tell me again why you are picking on an underemployed single-parent family?

End of rant.

She's not picking on the family. She's upset that others are ENABLING them. All that will happen is that Bri, who even at 14 knows what is right and what is wrong, will bring in more pets. She even asked if it will be a PERMANENT or TEMPORARY fund.

Hello.... do you see that a pattern may set in?

Not to be witchy, but maybe they should move in with a really wealthy PetTalker and then they can all be taken care of.

Sarcasm there.

I'm just really annoyed by IRRESPONSIBLE pet owners.

I teach kids, so I do know that by Bri's age, they know what they are doing, and they know right from wrong. Unless Bri has a learning disability, then there is no excuse for her behavior. Go to a public school, talk with some 14yr olds, you'll be surprised how mature they really are.

Some people are just really good at taking advantage of a good situation, and enablers just let it keep happening.

So yea, let's just neuter, spay, get shots and all that for all her pets. For life. Why not.

End of my rant.

[jennielynn1970]

I was going to post the same thing last night but then I decided not to. I wasn't sure how to say it really I guess. Basic vet care is something you should be able to cover on your own or stop getting more animals and talking about getting more animals. The animals in the home were already NOT getting basic vet care before more were brought in and to me it's enabling them to get more pets and not have to take responsibility, rather than helping. Enabling is not helping in the end. I also found it pretty ballsy that after all of that was set up (which WAS/IS very kind of all of those set up in the first place), the OP actually requested MORE money and wanted to know if it was an ongoing fund so people could contniue to care for their pets???? Yes vet care is expensive, but it's not everyone elses responsbility. This is not an emergency that suddenly popped up, this is a long term ongoing problem.

I also am glad the pets are getting the care they need, but I see it setting up a bad pattern. So what happens next year for shots, heartworm testing and meds, etc etc? This started out as 35 dollars to spay one cat so it wasn't rehomed, and suddenly it's basic vet care for all of the animals to the tune of a thousand dollars, then they ask for MORE because they found worms??? Incredible.

I am very sorry about the hard time you guys have gone through, but if that's the case, even though you love your animals, if you can't provide the basic common care of owning them, sometimes the best thing you can do is rehome them. This is not a one time thing, this is a chronic problem and your animals have never gotten the vet care they need, and more keep being added. Just for the future, when some people are offering to do so much already, please don't ask for more, that is honestly in poor taste.


Edited to add: If this was an emergency, I would be happy to donate, but it is not. It's basic routine care and should be saved up for by the owners to do a little at a time, like everyone else has to do. LOTS of people have money problems, but you have to have priorities. If you can buy your cigarettes, cell phone, internet, etc. you ought to be able to set aside a few dollars to save up for vet care.

YAY!! Thank god there are others who see the light. The constant "Ok people we need to get money in here" is a bit much. You can always sell plasma, or whatever you need to do. I think that when it comes to priorities, they can afford what they WANT to afford. It's being manipulative.

[Catty1]

I wish people would read the entire threads. Go back to that "what kind of fund" post and read lvpets2002 answer to it.

Look...if you disagree with all this, then DON'T donate. Simple.

There has been enough bashing, and it will not change the fact that the fund has been set up.

It will not change people who want to donate.

If the fund is not used for Bri's pets in a certain amount of time, then it is used for other animals in need.

I have yet to hear ONE idea or suggestion come from the bashers. Solutions and options are welcome.

As was said, Bri intially wanted to rehome Gizzy...and there were no offers.

The option in her town is a kill shelter.

Adoption offers?

[jennielynn1970]

Yes their vaccinations and spays should have been something that was dealt with but there were unforeseen circumstances in this situation that happened after the animals were obtained. Bri had both cats and dogs before things turned bad. Her mom lost her job, they had a break in and lost a lot of things and almost got evicted. It has been a long climb for her mom (a single mother) to get back on her feet.

I think considering if anyone can come up with a better solution here I would love to hear it. And like I said before if it means Gizzie losing her life or putting up a few buck to get her spayed then I vote for the few bucks. I have already voluteered to help from the beginning. I don't want to see this cat killed because we feel they were not responsible. That doesn't make things right by any means.

If you don't want to help don't. If you have other suggestions as to how to solve this please say so but do not slam a 14 year old child and single mother for this. And with all due respect Bri is 14 what kind of job do you honestly think she can get to be able to pay a vet bill of $730? And considering her mom is not steadily employed now don't you think it will be possible if she does get a job that some of her money will have to go to help keep them afloat?


Michelle

First off, I think that there are many single moms out there that would be totally offended to know that they are thought of like this. Many single moms are out there doing everything in their power to make sure that their kids and their family is taken care of. Being a single mom is NOT a disability. Please get that one straight right now.

Bri may be 14, but as I said before, that is no excuse for this behavior. 14yr olds know how their actions affect situations, and they know right from wrong. If she were, say, 4 (following developmental psychology, which yes, I have studied), it would be an acceptable excuse. This is not. Heck, we have 4 pregnant 14 and 15yr old in the 8th grade where I teach. They are not stupid, and it didn't happen accidentally. They want kids. They know how to manipulate as well.

A "few bucks" also doesn't add up to $730.00.

There are always "unforeseen" circumstances. It happens to everyone. I had to replace 4 tires on my car on Xmas eve, because our block was vandalized, and then in the same day, the alternator went on my car, and it's a VW. So, all together, it was $1600.00. That was unforeseen. I'm a single girl, who owns her own home, and am responsible for the mortgage and the care of my cats (and I care for the fosters).

So, if you want to start a fund for me, hey, be my guest, because poor me, I'm single, a teacher (we're always underpaid), and I foster cats for shelters, so I'm taking care of animals not even my own.

[Catty1]

Jenn:


If a person doesn't have access to certain things, or can't get to a fax machine and fax something even before it was requested (I'm thinking maybe she's supposed to read minds and know beforehand what people are going to tell her what to do).


You are not God. You are not to judge others. No one is perfect except God.

Sound familiar?


I'd just like to see the drama end and see the cat get the surgery.

Amen.

[jennielynn1970]

And that was from IMOM... and that person was doing what they could to get the cat to the vet and all that. They took temp jobs to pay bills and to get money. They had friends drive them or lend them their vehicle to get to where they need to be.

Also, it a SICK cat. It doesn't need spayed. It doesn't need shots.

Look, first it was rehoming Gizzy.

Then the offer to get her spayed, which was great.

Now we're at $730, and a permanent fund, funded by others, at the vet so they can take care of their pets.

I'm not judging. I'm reading this and am appalled that it just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Where does it stop? Has anyone asked that??

Heck, if it was still just Gizzy getting spayed, I'd say bring her up here to PA and I'll take her to the vet who does our clinics. The stray that I took in there 2 weeks ago had a spay, an abortion, and shots for $45.00. That's it, no where near any huge price tag. Then again, it took me getting into contact with a bunch of other shelters to find out about this.

Again... everyone has tough times. This kind of thing happens all the time. Read the papers. As a teacher, I get annoyed when responsibility is pushed off on others and is just expected, and to anyone who is negative they become belligerent. Enabling just makes it continue.

[Daisy and Delilah]

This whole thing is incredible. WOW! We have some very generous people on this board. It amazes me how strangers, from all over the world, get together and donate money like this.

At first, I was shocked that anybody would set up a fund for vet care for someone's pets. It was so unbelievable, I just couldn't comment.

The recipients in this case should be brought to their knees with gratitude and humility. Hearing cross words from you Bri, astounds me. I think it's important that you realize what is happening here.

I was a single Mom for many years. Sometimes I had $5 left at the end of the week for groceries. I never asked for help and I certainly never received any from people willing to help me. It was a hard struggle and a great character builder. It made me who I am today. There were many days that I cried myself to sleep. I worried to the point of being physically sick, alot of the time. My main thing was, DOWNSIZE. I would go from nothing to even less if I needed to to feed my kids. We had one dog and it was all I could do to afford to pay a little each month to his vet. Times were hard but we made it.

I'm sorry your Mom doesn't have a job. What line of work is she in? Excuse me for saying this but here goes.......we have been hearing for a very long time that your Mom objects to this and she objects to that. When is your Mom going to come in with her part in the livelihood of your pets? Do you think it's right that she allows these pets to come into the house but can not seem to take care of them? It can't be all your responsibility. I have to say, either your Mom starts taking responsibility here or, you may have to rehome some of these pets. It's heartbreaking but life is not always a bowl of cherries. If you can't take care of them, you can't take care of them. Life is very tough but that's the way it is.

Believe me, I don't think they have to go to kill shelters either. You should have some nice friends that are willing to help. Wouldn't it seem more likely for people in your community to help you rather than strangers you've met on the internet? Just remember, Bri, we don't always get everything we want in this life. We have to earn all that we get.

No criticism to the people that are setting up this fund. If this is what you want to do, so be it. You're really a few in a million.

Edit to add: Just a suggestion Bri and probably not my business. Can you and your Mom get some federal help so that some expenses can be met? Many many years ago, I was able to get food stamps, etc. This could allow you guys to have more money for things you need. Has your Mom checked with Temp agencies?

[Catty1]

And that was from IMOM... and that person was doing what they could to get the cat to the vet and all that. They took temp jobs to pay bills and to get money. They had friends drive them or lend them their vehicle to get to where they need to be.

And that was also an adult. Who risks losing her funding because she doesn't stay in touch when she should with IMOM.

I think it's fine that you defend an adult who is being bashed, but why not a 14-year-old who has no help from the adult in her home? Who at least stays in touch regularly?

If your offer to spay Gizzy still holds, PM Bri, get it set up, and we'll chip in.

[Kfamr]

See, NOW this thread has got out of hand because no one was "fighting" in the first place.

What is said is said, and I don't believe I was in any wrong whatsoever to express my opinion, which obviously there are others who agree.

You say to mind our own business, however, once you post such things on Pet Talk (Public Message Board) and ask for our money, you make it OUR business.

I also believe some of you haven't seen some of the things from this "14 year old girl with a single mother" that some of us have. I know many single mothers - some with pets, some without - however they aren't depriving their children or their pets because of it. So that is certainly not an excuse.

[jennielynn1970]

If she can get her to PA when I find out there is a clinic, I'll pay for it myself. It's a drop in the bucket compared to what the typical vet offices want. Spay and shots should be under $45.00 (the abortion is only $5.00 extra).

I'd just like to see the cat taken care of. Maybe mom needs to put her foot down when it comes to taking in more pets, and maybe friends and family need to step up and help them out. The fact that no family at all is helping them in their time of need (and strangers are) is just sad. I see poor hispanic families that would die before letting someone else, a stranger, take care of a family issue. Same with muslim. It's goes against their beliefs. I'm not hispanic or muslim, and I'm not a christian holy roller either. I just think that when a person's extended family doesn't help one of their own it shows how their world and humanity is just going to hell.

I didn't want to bash Bri. That was not the intent.

I have a vet appt. tomorrow for a foster who is being returned because he has a UTI and peed on the new owner's couch, and she refuses to take him to the vet and told her daughter in law to tell me to come and take him back after a month or month and a half of living there. She's more worried about her precious sofa than the poor cat who is peeing blood.

I'm just hating humanity right now. Will have to revisit things when I'm less negative.

but yes, figure out how to get Gizzy up here, I'll get her spayed. It's a short procedure, she just needs to be resting and carefully watched. This vet is AMAZING. I never seen such small incisions, and such great work.

[jennielynn1970]

We could also put her in one of our no-kill shelters as well if this would alleviate some issues at Bri's house. After the spay of course.

[Daisy and Delilah]

I have to tell you Kay...you are an amazing person with what you do with your money. The way you manage it is to be commended by all of us. You work in the fast food industry, and you are able to take good care of four dogs. You should be a great example here. A great example of budgeting correctly, saving money, as well as, earning what you need.

I'm not trying to hijack this thread. Only trying to comment to Kay that I think you have earned the right to give your opinion and advice here. :)

This illustrates that it can be done by anyone that wants to work hard enough for it.

[crow_noir]

DO your research! This IS safe to use. It's used in human food supplies as well as cattle feed. You can find tons of info on it online and in books. I am NOT the only one who has used this to deworm their pets.


Crow_noir, roundworms rarely show up in fecal matter unless they get very bad. They look much like spaghetti and are usually vomited up. The ones most commonly seen are tapeworm segments, which look like tiny specks of white rice. Recommending something like that probably isn't a good idea. She could easily take the cat to a deworming clinic to get them dewormed by a vet who knows what they are doing, and Petsmart sells Tapeworm Tabs over the counter that work very well, Praziquantal...or however it is spelled. It's the equivalent of Drontal or Droncit and will kill not only tapes, but roundworms and hookworms. Just because you used this remedy (which sounds very sketchy to me) doesn't mean it is safe to use!

And not to jump on the bandwagon here but I wholeheartedly agree with Shais_mom and Kay!

[shais_mom]

I don't ever remember saying in any of my threads that I was a perfect pet owner. I haven't ever claimed to be perfect at anything in my life.
I think I'm more sad over the fact that you think that if we can afford vet care for our pets that we think we are perfect. Money doesn't make anyone perfect.
I have a full time job but I live pay check to pay check due to my spending habits. Is this something I'm proud of? NO Is this something I'm trying to change in my life? YES Did I have to think long and hard before adding another pet into my family. YES If I have ever second guessed my decision it isn't b/c of the money issue, its b/c Kloe is such a twerp, and it feels as tho we haven't bonded. But rehoming her would be like cutting off one of my arms/legs. Just like any of my pets.

[luckies4me]

DO your research! This IS safe to use. It's used in human food supplies as well as cattle feed. You can find tons of info on it online and in books. I am NOT the only one who has used this to deworm their pets.

Previous quote...

You should be able to get it at any garden type store. make sure it is NOT for pools. (Pool grade is highly toxic.

Mix a bit of this up in some broth or gravy (NOT WARMED... adding heat to DE can make it toxic!)

Offering this kind of advise online on a pet forum to a 14 year old is a little absurd. Why not suggest taking the cat to a *VET* or recommend an over the counter cat dewormer that is veterinarian recommended. That would seem a little more reasonable don't you think? And it beats having to treat over and over again to make sure the parasites are completely gone, when you can treat twice and know the product you are using is effective. Not to mention, if the cat has fleas and is not treated for fleas, the worms will just come back anyway. What makes you think a 14 year old is going to remember exactly how to mix it up? Seems a bit chancy to me.

I've used this in my garden for years. While medical/food grade DE can be safe to use as a dewormer *if you know what you're doing* <---key point here, it's still risky, and I really wouldn't trust the boxes sold at your local Wallmart/garden supply store. Your best bet is to purchase it online from a pet supplier, who will have the right stuff. There are many places online to purchase it.




And really. I didn't ASK for your god***m opinions, and I don't want to hear them. THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN ONLY BASH ME, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS

Do you really think this is the kind of attitude one should have when there are two great people out there right at this moment helping your pets get the veterinary care they need? I have seen no one bashing you on this thread, just pter's merely questioning what is going on. No one is calling you names, and when you post to a public forum you are making your life our business. If you don't want us to know/care about what goes on with you perhaps you should rethink about posting it for all to see.


First off, I think that there are many single moms out there that would be totally offended to know that they are thought of like this.

THANK YOU! I am a single mother with a 5 year old and a baby on the way. Being single is no excuse! Everyone has issues/troubles, it doesn't matter if you are single, divorced, widowed, or married. I have been supporting myself since the age of 17, and now have a great job as a Veterinary Technician at one of the largest animal hospitals in the U.S. Times are tough, but I am coping. All my animals are well taken care of and you better believe I would starve myself before ever letting my children/pets go hungry. I would love to add another bearded dragon to my household but is it the right time? No. I don't have the funds or the time to care for another pet. I used to run a rescue and recently due to becoming homeless and having major health issues it was in the best interest of the animals in my care to be rehomed, as bad as it hurt me inside. I knew they deserved better so I did the responsible thing and all found great loving homes, even Tony who I had been trying to adopt out for a year and a half! I even managed a way to make sure everyone was up to date on shots etc. before going to their new homes, because I owed them that much. After all, they did not ask for me to "rescue" them. They were MY responsibility. Now I'm on top of my game...anyone can do it. It might take awhile but it is possible. You just need to sacrifice, and sometimes sacrificing can mean doing something you really don't like. But that's life.


Well, my mom finds this whole idea rediculous and I don't think she gives a rat's butt if Gizzie is ever spayed, she just wants her out of here T_T. I've been doing everything so far. My mom wouldn't even call a rescue for me, she just wants to take Gizzie to the animal shelter and dump her.

Since page one it seems excuses have been made for why the family can't do this. First it was getting to a phone (it's not that hard to walk down to your local 711 or what have ya to use a payphone), then it was her mother not wanting her to call etc etc etc. She even said herself the mom just does not like the cat. What if we spay the pet and the mom just gets rid of the cat anyway?! Don't you think the animal deserves to be somewhere where it's stay at the house isn't in jeopardy every day? And I don't buy the excuse that nothing can be done to find this animal a home. Just because there is only a kill shelter around does not mean the animal has to go there. She has the internet and can easily place an ad online on Craigslist, maybe even in her local newspaper? Craigslist is free, and placing an ad in the paper isn't too spendy. I'm sure someone here would be willing to do that as well. How about making a flyer with the cats picture on it and posting it in your local vets office or pet shop?

I feel awful for you Bri, as you should not be the one having to deal with all of this. You are just 14 and it should be your mother's responsibility. If she knew you guys could not afford another pet she shouldn't have let you bring another into the house, plain and simple. I really hope everything works out in the favor of the pets. I know you would love to keep them, and I hope that your family situation gets better soon so that you may get to do that. But please, if you know you cannot care for them in the way they need it may be best to rehome them. I would hate for your mom to take someone to the shelter after so many people here have helped with her medical needs, so that the chances of her staying are better.

Ask yourself. What happens if Gizzy's behavior does not change after her spay? What if she keeps clawing furniture etc? Then what? Keep in mind, all of us here are just thinking of what is best for the pets.

[crow_noir]

There have been plenty of suggestions to take the cat to the vet, and i even mentioned it in my post that this was just until she could get them to a vet. This was a solution that i was offering for "right now, today." Not a week from now.

If money is truly an issue here i was trying to offer a low cost suggestion that can last for years. Dewormer poisons can expire.

As for being able to mix it up properly, i highly doubt "do not heat" is too hard a concept for a 14 year old to remember. She can always print out the instructions or save it to some form of document program for easy finding.

Most instructions for the DE online say to only use twice also, but i like to err on the side of caution.


Previous quote...

Offering this kind of advise online on a pet forum to a 14 year old is a little absurd. Why not suggest taking the cat to a *VET* or recommend an over the counter cat dewormer that is veterinarian recommended. That would seem a little more reasonable don't you think? And it beats having to treat over and over again to make sure the parasites are completely gone, when you can treat twice and know the product you are using is effective. Not to mention, if the cat has fleas and is not treated for fleas, the worms will just come back anyway. What makes you think a 14 year old is going to remember exactly how to mix it up? Seems a bit chancy to me.

I've used this in my garden for years. While medical/food grade DE can be safe to use as a dewormer *if you know what you're doing* <---key point here, it's still risky, and I really wouldn't trust the boxes sold at your local Wallmart/garden supply store. Your best bet is to purchase it online from a pet supplier, who will have the right stuff. There are many places online to purchase it.

...

Keep in mind, all of us here are just thinking of what is best for the pets.

Exactly.

[luckies4me]

As for being able to mix it up properly, i highly doubt "do not heat" is too hard a concept for a 14 year old to remember.


Maybe not, but a lot just don't care to remember. Don't you remember being 14? :p Not to pick on the youngins or anything!!! :o Plus, since she has no job and the money is tight I'm not so sure her mother would be willing to buy it, especially since a fund has already been set up.

I guess being involved in Veterinary Medicine for the past 9 years has me a little biased. ;) :p

[Pawsitive Thinking]

I'm not as perfect as the rest of you with all your money.

Tell that to my bank manager sweetheart ;) Always have too much month left at the end of my money :rolleyes:

[Alysser]

You say to mind our own business, however, once you post such things on Pet Talk (Public Message Board) and ask for our money, you make it OUR business.

I also believe some of you haven't seen some of the things from this "14 year old girl with a single mother" that some of us have. I know many single mothers - some with pets, some without - however they aren't depriving their children or their pets because of it. So that is certainly not an excuse.

I agree with you 100% there. As I have stated I really don't like Bri's recent actions or but the fighting a bashing isn't helping anyone and I think it needs to stop.

Otherwise, Kay I agree with what I quoted.


I'm not as perfect as the rest of you with all your money.

I guess it wasn't really directed to me but other people, but that statement is just really wrong. No one here ever said they were "perfect" pet owners. No one is perfect at anything. People have to get rid of pets all the time to put food on the table, not everyone can afford proper vet care right now either. This is LIFE. When my dad lost his job all those years ago, it almost killed us. We had no money but we managed and we got through. He got a job finally. It effected us and it STILL does, and according to my parents it always will. I'm sorry Bri, if you get mad at my post going against you but I was just shocked you would even say things like that. I am FAR from rich, and I will never be rich. I am sure many PT'ers have been in the same situations and no one here is "rich with all our money".

[Ginger's Mom]

This thread has definitely been an eye-opener. I wonder, while reading these posts, if everyone is satisfied with what they have said. If they feel they have expressed themselves the way they would like. Bri and Alyssa, I am sure your mothers are very proud of your command of the language and the respect you show for yourself and others. It will get you far in life.

Catty1, there has been another suggestion offered over and over again, you have chosen to ignore it. That suggestion is to rehome the animals with families that have the ability to care for their daily needs. You and Bri obviously know how to use the internet and the phone. Think outside of the box and contact rescues, shelters, transport agencies outside of Bri's immediate area. Some rescue may say that they cannot take the animals but will list them on Petfinder so that there is more exposure for getting them a home. The rescue may also pay for what vetting is necessary to get the animal placed and get the money back in the adoption fee (not sure, that was something that just came to me). Yes it would mean that Bri and her mother would have to make themselves available for people to see the animals, but I am sure that they will do what they can to assure the animals well-being, after all we are all trying to do what is best for the animals.

[Catty1]

Ginger's Mom - yes, I have noticed the rehoming posts, and I agree that is an option. I have asked for someone to offer...

My resources are a bit limited, Internet notwithstanding, up here in Canada as for getting the "feel" of what is available nearby in TN.

Also, I am having major surgery Tuesday, and anything I start now would have to be taken up by someone else. I won't be back at a decent computer for about 2 weeks from that date.

I hope that "someone" is out there.

Thanks. :)

[Daisy and Delilah]

I think alot of the hoopla, concern, anger, disdain, opinions, and analyzations have been voiced because of the nature of the situation. Everyone on this board, most likely, struggles, to a point, to make ends meet. Some of have offered input on ways to help Bri and her family improve things, from experience. Maybe this is off the original purpose of the thread but some things that have been said were sorta necessary because of the common feelings we all have. Joyce is right....our main goal is to always do the best for the animals. It's just hard for us to believe that one family on this board is offered a large sum of $$$ for care of their pets, when 200 other members are in that much need as well. I believe that's why this thread has gotten off to where it is now.

I am surprised and pleased to see that many of our long time citizens have posted to this thread. That shows us the level of concern here.

Thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this. I have just one more thing that bugs me. Not to criticize or insult anyone but; I have read in almost every post how Bri is only 14 years old. We have several 14 year olds on this board that are mature beyond belief. Several, I would never have known they are 14 unless you told me. Being "just" 14, Bri has been incredibly savvy to get this far on this thing. Being 14 is not a handicapp unless we depend on that 14 year old to earn enough money to pay for these pet's care all by herself. Being the adult in this situation, again, why has her mother allowed all these animals to come in, knowing they can't take care of them? It's not that Bri is 14, it's the fact that her mother, the adult, is "non-participatory", in their upkeep. Yet, she is happy and willing to accept the donations from a group of strangers. Am I the only one that sees something missing here? Hence, the concern, anger and opinions.


In the end, I hope these pets get what they need and live a long and happy life. :)

[Ginger's Mom]

Okay, one more reply and then I know that I really need to shut my mouth. Catty1, I am a little confused as to your reference to not know what is available in Tennessee because you are in Canada. You have two resources, Brianna and the internet. If I was looking to rehome an animal even in my own neighborhood, after speaking with my friends (which I assume Bri has done), I would turn to the internet to see what other options are available. First I would search within 50 miles of my area for a rescue or shelter, after I made all of my calls to them I would search 100 miles, then back to the phone (got the phone numbers from the internet) and so on. What is sad is that you have already spent a lot of time asking Pet Talkers for money, that time could have been used making phone calls or sending e-mails to agencies that could help as soon as you saw how this idea was going over. Now you feel that you do not have the time to do that. :( Also in re-reading these posts I see that Reggie lives in GA and has offered any assistance she can give. Have you spoken with/pm'd her?

[K9soul]

And don't even mention rehoming.


It seems rehoming is something she is not willing to consider anyway, even if it was the difference between the animals receiving the care they needed or not. My apologies if I am wrong, but from reading all this it seems to me that this family wants what is best for the people over what may be best for the animals. I imagine if the money is not given to ensure their care, they will not work to get them to a situation where they can if that means rehoming, and the animals simply will not receive care.

This situation is sad and frustrating for all involved.

[Vela]

I agree with K9Soul. Briana is not interested in rehoming the animals, even if they cannot care for them, she has said as much. Rehoming does NOT mean putting into a kill shelter. I have to say, Briana did not help in any way to get the fund set up, would not make even a phone call when they asked her to. If she isn't going to put any effort into even helping get a donation fund set up for OTHER people to pay for her animals' care, you can bet 100% she will refuse to help do something she doesn't WANT to do, such as rehoming the pets.

Briana this is not a cut to you but it is the facts. You did not help get the fund set up, your mother did not help get the fund set up. People from other coutries and states had to do it.

I have no doubt Briana's mother would be happy to rehome the animals, less for her to have to deal with, but Briana will not, even if it means they can't get proper care in their home.

This is where the "stepping up and growing up" part comes in, but if she isn't willing to do it then nobody can help. If I lived there, I would try to help but since I don't I can't really do anything about it, and trust me my plate is overfull, but I would still try if I could.

I have lived on my own since I was 16, so I don't want to hear about "she's only 14". She could say, "mom, it's best for the animals, since we can't provide the proper care, to find homes for them so they can get proper care". It's about priorities and choices. I DO feel badly they are in a bad situation, it SUCKS, but everyone I know has been at some point or another, and they have to make the best choices for the animals in their care, not for themselves.

I am not bashing on anyone on this thread, I never have, I have only talked about what I have seen as a pattern in the past, what I see as a continuing pattern for the future, and animals who never got the care even when there was money. It has simply not been a priority, until it was on someone else's dollar.

Then someone who wants donations steps in and swears at people, calls them names, makes nasty remarks, well I'm afraid that just isn't going to get anyone very far. Would I donate to someone with a humble attitude and a grateful attitude? You bet. Would I donate to someone with a nasty snotty attitude? No. Now I realize Briana did not like what she read here, and that is why she got upset and made those remarks, but honestly most of it what was said by others about the matter was not said in a mean manner at all, and unfortuatnely sometimes the truth hurts. We all have problems, but it's how you react to them that matters. I don't like hearing I'm doing something wrong or not making the best choices, but sometimes it's the truth and we have to take responsbility for our actions and choices, even when it's hard. I have to do it, and so does everyone here.

I hope in the end the animals either get the care they need, or new homes, or whatever, but it's going to take some real sacrifice to get there, as hard as that is. I have a genuine concern for Briana and her mother, and the animals, and I hope they are able to get back on their feet and in a more stable environment.

[Daisy and Delilah]

I agree with K9Soul. Briana is not interested in rehoming the animals, even if they cannot care for them, she has said as much. Rehoming does NOT mean putting into a kill shelter. I have to say, Briana did not help in any way to get the fund set up, would not make even a phone call when they asked her to. If she isn't going to put any effort into even helping get a donation fund set up for OTHER people to pay for her animals' care, you can bet 100% she will refuse to help do something she doesn't WANT to do, such as rehoming the pets.

Briana this is not a cut to you but it is the facts. You did not help get the fund set up, your mother did not help get the fund set up. People from other coutries and states had to do it.

I have no doubt Briana's mother would be happy to rehome the animals, less for her to have to deal with, but Briana will not, even if it means they can't get proper care in their home.

This is where the "stepping up and growing up" part comes in, but if she isn't willing to do it then nobody can help. If I lived there, I would try to help but since I don't I can't really do anything about it, and trust me my plate is overfull, but I would still try if I could.

I have lived on my own since I was 16, so I don't want to hear about "she's only 14". She could say, "mom, it's best for the animals, since we can't provide the proper care, to find homes for them so they can get proper care". It's about priorities and choices. I DO feel badly they are in a bad situation, it SUCKS, but everyone I know has been at some point or another, and they have to make the best choices for the animals in their care, not for themselves.

I am not bashing on anyone on this thread, I never have, I have only talked about what I have seen as a pattern in the past, what I see as a continuing pattern for the future, and animals who never got the care even when there was money. It has simply not been a priority, until it was on someone else's dollar.

Then someone who wants donations steps in and swears at people, calls them names, makes nasty remarks, well I'm afraid that just isn't going to get anyone very far. Would I donate to someone with a humble attitude and a grateful attitude? You bet. Would I donate to someone with a nasty snotty attitude? No. Now I realize Briana did not like what she read here, and that is why she got upset and made those remarks, but honestly most of it what was said by others about the matter was not said in a mean manner at all, and unfortuatnely sometimes the truth hurts. We all have problems, but it's how you react to them that matters. I don't like hearing I'm doing something wrong or not making the best choices, but sometimes it's the truth and we have to take responsbility for our actions and choices, even when it's hard. I have to do it, and so does everyone here.

I hope in the end the animals either get the care they need, or new homes, or whatever, but it's going to take some real sacrifice to get there, as hard as that is. I have a genuine concern for Briana and her mother, and the animals, and I hope they are able to get back on their feet and in a more stable environment.

Vela, you and Jess have an incredible way with words. Well said as always. This is what I tried to say in the other 3000 words I wrote. Thank you. :)

[shais_mom]

I have to wonder how many people were getting ready to hit PAY and then read what she said - swearing @ us, and calling us rich etc then reconsidered. I know I would.

If people have money to spare to give to her - I think that's great, I just don't want people to be shocked or hurt when the cat is given away, "escapes" or something.
I find it odd that she is so adament against rehoming NOW but just a few months ago - she was asking people on PT to take Gizzy.

I know she lives with her mom full time but remember she also does have a dad and a couple of siblings.... where are they in all this mess? :(
and I'm not sure who said it but her mom finds this all ridiculous getting the cat spayed, etc, but yet she doesn't have a problem with the fact that several strangers from all over the world are opening their hearts and wallets and she's more than willing to take that...

[Vela]

Vela, you and Jess have an incredible way with words. Well said as always. This is what I tried to say in the other 3000 words I wrote. Thank you. :)

Well I think you said it just fine=) I honestly have no ill will towards them at all, I just hope for the best for everyone in the situation.

[eeg]

this whole thing started with whether or not to rehome Gizmo because she was so agrassive. spaying came into as an advice to help this behaviour. now this 35 dollar need has avalanched into 730 dollar 'project' and the spaying and neutering of two cats and two dogs and their general vet care (with 'issues' like to get or not to get a bird also, which have nothing to do with the original problem, coming in between). perhaps everyone should take a deep breath and 'mind their own business' like the owner of these pets so rudely advised some of the people trying to help her. we cannot have all the pets we want (like so many other things in life), let alone help them all. and there are somany that need serious medical intervention that 730 dollars could provide.