He contacted me again, what do I do? [Archive]

king2005

03-13-2007, 12:59 PM

I dated a guy named Shawn from May 2006-June 2006. I dumped him as his drugs, drinking, & being fired left right & centre was not the kind of person I want to spend the rest of my life with.

At first I was trying to be nice to him & saying no & where he went wrong & how & where to get help. This went on for a couple months. Then he dissapeared, YAY!! Then he returned, poo... Every few weeks he'd message me. I started getting nasty at him, as I had had enough & wanted him to just go away & stop making new msn accounts as I keep blocking his.

Then he dissapeared for 3-4 months & I totally forgot about it & didn't have to worry about what messages I'd find on my MSN...

Well hes returned :(

This is along the lines of what he said... "I just returned from rehab & I have a job"...

He just doesn't get it... He cannot take back what he did & I don't want him back.

I'm really considering talking to the police, but I don't want to at the same time, cause hes not messaging me everyday & hes not being an asshat either. hes just bagging me to take him back & that hes changed (he says that in every post & said that when I was with him... I'm sure they are lies)... I don't want the police hounding him or his family, unless he becomes agressive or is really harassing me...

He has no idea where I live & my phone # has been dissconnected (not cause of him, I no longer needed it). But he knows where I work (unless hes fried his brain & forgot)...

GAH!!! What on earth do I do?

Catlady711

03-13-2007, 01:18 PM

Queen of Poop

03-13-2007, 01:21 PM

IRescue452

03-13-2007, 01:22 PM

Change your msn name, but keep the old one in so that you don't have to change all the accounts that the email is attached to. If he continues or starts to contact you more often definately contact the police, better safe than sorry.

king2005

03-13-2007, 01:23 PM

If it were me I'd change my msn name, even though it's a hassle, so you don't have to hear from him again, and then if he shows up at either your workplace or home then call the police. But that's just me.

Good luck

Thats the problem, I cannot change my MSN.. I am kingrattus all over the internet & have been for nearly 8yrs now... I was kingrattus here too, but I wont go there... Everything I have & do is Kingrattus... I love Kingrattus & cannot part with it because of a guy... GAH... this sucks, why couldn't he just have stayed away

king2005

03-13-2007, 01:39 PM

Tell him that you have no interest in him and ask him to leave you alone. Also tell him that if he fails to heed your wishes you will contact the police. If you hear from him again after that you will have to follow thru and contact the police and have them handle it.

Please, please don't get caught up with him again. Be strong. You've moved on!

No worries I'll never hook up with him again!!! I don't do break up, go out, break up, go out.. once its over, its over! I'm more so annoyed & honestly did forget he even exzisted...

I told him I'll call the cops on him if he contacts me again.. he dissapeared for a month & started again... Thats when I started saying nasty nasty things to him.. like calling him poor white trash & other heartless things... didn't work..

I even told him I was dating Chad & we were having a baby together... that didn't work either...

I'm so not a police person. I don't think the police will even care cause hes not threatening me, & hes not messaging me all the time...

Queen of Poop

03-13-2007, 01:40 PM

No worries I'll never hook up with him again!!! I don't do break up, go out, break up, go out.. once its over, its over! I'm more so annoyed & honestly did forget he even exzisted...

I told him I'll call the cops on him if he contacts me again.. he dissapeared for a month & started again... Thats when I started saying nasty nasty things to him.. like calling him poor white trash & other heartless things... didn't work..

I even told him I was dating Chad & we were having a baby together... that didn't work either...

I'm so not a police person. I don't think the police will even care cause hes not threatening me, & hes not messaging me all the time...

But he is harrasing you and that is not allowed. And what starts out as harrassment can change into something else quickly. Just be careful dear!

Lobodeb

03-13-2007, 02:19 PM

Catsnclay

03-13-2007, 02:24 PM

Why are you even answering his messages?

I too would cut off all contact with him - don't respond to him AT ALL!

I would also tell him one last time that you will no longer respond to him and that he should stop corrisponding with you, if he does not you will be forced to contact the police, then DO so if he continues.

What he is doing is the same thing an abuser does. Please do not get caught up in his world - and that means talking to him in any way, shape or form. It will be hard, but it seems you have done this before, and you need to do it again.

I have seen first hand what abusers do - it is not pretty on both sides.

Marigold2

03-13-2007, 02:25 PM

I would let him know in plain english that if he contacts you again in any way shape or form you will go to the police and then follow through. Make copies of all his e-mails and take them to the police. Contact your friends and co-workers and let them know what is happening. Give people a photo so they know what he looks like and to be on the lookout, ditto with his car. This is not someone who is playing with a full deck. And yes I would change my e-mail address and phone number ASAP.

Catty1

03-13-2007, 02:44 PM

Block him from Messenger and everything else, even your phone.

That you have the technology to do.

king2005

03-13-2007, 02:57 PM

Do you have to respond? If he e-mails you, so what? Just don't reply.

As long as you are responding, then he'll keep trying to contact you. He probably thinks it's some sort of game you're playing. I would just save the e-mails in case you start feeling threatned. Let the people at your job know that he's been trying to contact you, that way, if he tries calling there, maybe they can screen your calls or better yet, tell him you are no longer employed there.

My email is safe, hes too stupid to remember what it is. I tried ignoring him before on MSN & then I started getting 60+ messages a day... It was mostly him boo hooing & that he'll change. Nothing threatening... I only started messaging him back so the 60+ messages would stop.. then he was hardly replying back, like once a week, then once a month type of thing. Then he dissapeared for Dec, until today.

Work already records who calls & for how long... I looked into that when he was calling my house all day & night long when I first dumpped him. There are also cameras outside.

What he is doing is the same thing an abuser does. Please do not get caught up in his world - and that means talking to him in any way, shape or form. It will be hard, but it seems you have done this before, and you need to do it again.

I have seen first hand what abusers do - it is not pretty on both sides.

Really? Rob didn't try to contact me or anything. He left me broken, & scared for life. Today is the one year of freedom from him & I haven't heard a peep from him at all... I talk to his brother & go to his parents house as they LOVE me & HATE him... Rob enjoyed mental warfare (fear) & being agressive (no broken bones & no bruses, but both my shoulders have been simi disslocated..they still aren't right..., my spine is messed up & my whrists will never have full strength ever again & he did other things I'm not in the mood to disscuss today)..

Shawn wasn't any of that, so I don't understand the abuser part.

Maybe I'm underestimating the whole situation... I've only dated 2 guys.. Rob(7yrs) & Shawn (about 2 months).

Oh & he doesn't have a car, he travells by bus.. I live 40km away from where I use to live. I also know that Bear would eat him if he came to my door & tried anything. I'm also rarely ever alone. I'm usually with Chad or Andrew. If I'm home alone I have Bear & there is a panic button on the alarm system (its a 2 way intercom, super nifty) & it runs through the phone, so I just have to grab one of those if need be... But he'd still have to deal with Bear first... Yes shes a sweatheart & would harm a fly, but she is protective & has shown us that she would protect us if need be. So I honestly feel safe in that sence

king2005

03-13-2007, 03:19 PM

Block him from Messenger and everything else, even your phone.

That you have the technology to do.

He doesn't have any of my current phone numbers & when I block him from MSN he makes a new account.. I tried blocking him when he did the 60+ messages/day BS...

I kinda feel stupid I got myself into this stupid mess... I want to date again (NOT HIM, but someone nice, like Joe), but its so not worth the BS I've gone through already... I'm over picky & pretty much turn everyone down...

I have a crush on someone right now, but I'm far to scared to let him know. Everytime I see him or talk to him I swear I go beat red. I get extra quiet & start thinking (thats never a good thing with me)... I did take the next step & I added him to my MSN & I've been chatting with him a lot the past week. But I don't know what to do or think.. part of me says NO RUN & HIDE, but part of me says hes handsom, sweet, talks to me, wants to hang out & game with me (hes a gammer...I use to be, I'm trying to get back into it), we've already drank at a party & gone bowling in a group, & we talked to each other the most... But I'm so scared to get involved with anyone (joe or someone else)...

Marigold2

03-13-2007, 04:10 PM

I wouldn't date anyone until you get this creep out of your life for good. He is diffently oppsessive about you. Dating someone now might make him angry and might make the abuse increase.

Catty1

03-13-2007, 04:32 PM

Just call the police and report - NOT charge - him. Most stations have a stalking or domestic unit...

A women's shelter or organization - the Y? Could give you some direction on this.

Good luck.

Vela

03-13-2007, 04:55 PM

How hard is it to just stop responding to him? If he doesn't have your number, doesn't have your email, and doesn't know where you live, stop answering him. He has never been abusive to you, per your words, so just stop answering his IMs. If he sends 60+ a day block him, block every name he tries to talk to you with and just don't say anything. It's not that big a deal honestly.

If you can't do that then change your MSN screen name. It's not hard to do. You CAN, you just don't want to, there is a big difference. If it's really that big a deal change it.

wombat2u2004

03-13-2007, 07:35 PM

If he constantly changes names on MSN, and you click on a new message....you should recognise that it's him in the first few words....yes ??? As soon as that happens, just block that name. I mean how long will he keep that up for ??? He will eventually go away.
Wom

columbine

03-13-2007, 09:33 PM

GO TO THE POLICE.

Their hands are tied anyway. The police can't do anything until somebody can PROVE a law has been broken, which is often way too late. Let them know you're being harassed (which is illegal, by the way) and have them refer you to an advocate who can explain to you how to document the harassment.

This is a police matter. You are not required to tell him that you've gone to the police, and it's often inadvisable anyway, as it can send a stalker into a rage. If they don't want to be bothered, insist that they tell you who DOES want to be bothered with crime PREVENTION, whether it's a city office, local nonprofit, or national coalition, so you can get some backup from people who are experienced and know exactly how the law can and can't serve you.

Love, Columbine

Catlady711

03-13-2007, 09:43 PM

He doesn't have any of my current phone numbers & when I block him from MSN he makes a new account.. I tried blocking him when he did the 60+ messages/day BS...

I'm assuming that you mean MSN Instant Messenger? If so then there is an option in there you can change so ANYONE who's not on your buddy list cannot see when you are online OR contact you.

If you mean email, and you like that email addy, then just try something like a different spelling or capitals etc. from kingrattus to something like KiNgrAtTus or Kingrattus25, etc. Or set up something so email not from ppl in your address book go to the bulk/spam folder, and just don't read those.

It depends on which is more important to you, having peace from your ex or keeping your email name.

Cataholic

03-14-2007, 11:29 AM

Just ignore him. Don't respond, don't respond, don't respond. He will give up. I couldn't imagine calling the police over an issue like this.

On my IM program, if someone IMs me, and I don't respond, it just stays lit up at the bottom of my screen. Even if they IM me a million more times, it just keeps showing up down there. Who cares?

king2005

03-14-2007, 12:50 PM

Its really hard to explain. I don't run windows, so i don't run the msn messenger program. I have another program that acts like msn messenger. On Windows (XP, '98, 2000, etc) there is 1 desktop. On Ubuntu (the type of Linux I'm using) I have 4-6 desktops running. What happeneds is that I'll be working in another desktop & everytime he sends me a new message it pops up & gets int he way.. I'll shoo the message away & moments later another will pop up... now getting this 60+ times a day gets really annoying. I also have sound on so I can get my messages & everytime someone sends me a message it beeps as me. + everyone who is messaging me under Kingrattus (I have 3 msn running at once + several other kinds, like ICQ,Yahoo, AOL...) it collects in the same window (its designed to use less ram & less desktop space, its quite nifty)...

So ignoring the messages & letting them collect isn't as easy as one would think. I have 300 users on my msn, so switching over would be a far worse, esp if I missed someone, YIKES...

I'm going to call someone in the 22 devision tonight & see what they say. I was kinda hoping there was something I could say that would make him loose interest & go away.

Maybe I'm being to sensitive casue this is the first guy I dumped & the first one that I hurt (as in dumping him... I did nothing wrong in the relationship). I've only dated 2 guys, Rob & Shawn. I didn't want to hurt Shawn, but gosh he abused substances like crazy & I tried to help & warned him what was going to happen. Blah....

jackie

03-14-2007, 03:44 PM

Like everyone said, just ignore him, and he will get bored and go away.

Honestly, it doesn't sound like that big of a deal, an inconvenience maybe.

king2005

03-14-2007, 03:53 PM

Like everyone said, just ignore him, and he will get bored and go away.

Honestly, it doesn't sound like that big of a deal, an inconvenience maybe.

I never tried to make it a big deal. Its just annoying as heck. I'm not scared of him or anything. There is nothing that he can do that I haven't already gone through, except pester me with his retardedness (not sure if thats even a word, but it is now lol)...
I just didn't want to hurt him, but I wanted him to go away at the sametime.

Pawsitive Thinking

03-15-2007, 10:12 AM

If you reply to anything you will only encourage him to stay in touch. By ignoring him he will get the message......eventually

king2005

03-15-2007, 10:16 AM

If you reply to anything you will only encourage him to stay in touch. By ignoring him he will get the message......eventually

I didn't reply to him this time. I'll see how it goes. So far he hasn't bombarded me with messages (yet)... hopefully he'll stay away this time.

Pawsitive Thinking

03-15-2007, 10:20 AM

I didn't reply to him this time. I'll see how it goes. So far he hasn't bombarded me with messages (yet)... hopefully he'll stay away this time.

I can block numbers on my mobile - can you? Then you can't reply to things because you won't get them in the first place

king2005

03-15-2007, 10:38 AM

I can block numbers on my mobile - can you? Then you can't reply to things because you won't get them in the first place

He doesn't have my cell #. he doesn't even know I have a cell phone, or a car, or that I live in another city (well its the same city, but not at the same time).

Pawsitive Thinking

03-15-2007, 10:48 AM

He doesn't have my cell #. he doesn't even know I have a cell phone, or a car, or that I live in another city (well its the same city, but not at the same time).

oh I see - make sure you keep it that way

king2005

03-15-2007, 10:57 AM

oh I see - make sure you keep it that way

I plan on it... My work doeen't even know where I live, nor my phone numbers... When people ask I tell them I live in Kitchener, which is REALLY far away (about an hour drive doing 80-100km/hr on the hwy.) & its in the opposite direction I really do live in. The only people that know where I live is a couple family members & Rob's brother(tom). He writes my address on a sticky note, fills out an envelope & leaves the sticky note inside with the mail hes sending me.. Then he deletes it from his computer, so his brother cannot get my address (now him I fear!). When I visit Tom & his folks, they don't tell anyone I was over, casue they don't want to deal with a psycho Rob & its easier on all of us... I'm a private person by nature so I'm good at keeping my info private.

Pawsitive Thinking

03-15-2007, 11:37 AM

wombat2u2004

03-15-2007, 06:44 PM

Is that from experience Wom? ;)

Actually it is BM. I learnt that trick long ago, when I had to devise these methods to keep all of the women on the internet at bay. To prevent them from finding out where I live, so they could'nt come over to my place and commit atrocities on my body....stuff like that. :eek:
It does work you know. ;)
Wom

king2005

03-15-2007, 06:53 PM

Actually it is BM. I learnt that trick long ago, when I had to devise these methods to keep all of the women on the internet at bay. To prevent them from finding out where I live, so they could'nt come over to my place and commit atrocities on my body....stuff like that. :eek:
It does work you know. ;)
Wom

hehehe your too funny lol

Logan

03-15-2007, 08:10 PM

Jess, he can't add you to his MSN address book unless you allow him to. Deny him access if he gets a new name. That's a pretty simple solution. Block the names he has registered under before and don't allow him back in.

Stay safe.

Logan

Pawsitive Thinking

03-16-2007, 05:20 AM

wombat2u2004

03-16-2007, 08:15 AM

Beating them off with a stick huh? ;)

My stick ??? Noooooooo......LOL
Wom

king2005

03-16-2007, 08:29 AM

OMG you two are naughty ;) :D
Thanks for giving me a good laugh

Pawsitive Thinking

03-16-2007, 09:17 AM

My stick ??? Noooooooo......LOL
Wom

Typical Aussie :rolleyes: :D

Pawsitive Thinking

03-16-2007, 09:28 AM

OMG you two are naughty ;) :D
Thanks for giving me a good laugh

He started it! LOL :D

wombat2u2004

03-16-2007, 09:29 AM

He started it! LOL :D

:eek: :eek:

wombat2u2004

03-16-2007, 09:30 AM

Typical Aussie :rolleyes: :D

VERY typical...hahahahaha ;)
Wom

Pawsitive Thinking

03-16-2007, 09:37 AM

VERY typical...hahahahaha ;)
Wom

Run ladies................................ :eek:

king2005

03-16-2007, 09:57 AM

hahaha love you two :D

Pawsitive Thinking

03-16-2007, 10:04 AM

hahaha love you two :D

We appear to have hijacked your thread - sorry about that ;)

Lobodeb

03-16-2007, 12:15 PM

We appear to have hijacked your thread - sorry about that ;)

What's more fun to talk about? Naugtiness or a guy who won't get the hint? I vote naughty! :p :D :o

kuhio98

03-16-2007, 12:32 PM

I'm missing something here. Very confused as to why this is a problem. You dated for a month. That's all? That's not a relationship.

He contacted you and said he's out of rehab and has a job. That's not a threat. Just don't respond to his message. Or do.... just congratulate him and tell him good luck. Then go on with your life.

Why all the drama? Did I miss something?

jennielynn1970

03-16-2007, 08:30 PM

GAH!!! What on earth do I do?

What you do is stop talking to him all together. Men do not take hints. They need actual, full on, direct words telling them WHAT NOT TO DO. Then leave it at that.

If he comes back, if he calls, if he shows up at your door, whatever it is, document it, but DO NOT confront. Do not acknowledge him. If he becomes irate and pounds on the door or harasses you at work, or just keeps figuring out ways to get your attention, put an end to it. Immediately. Go to the
police. Get a restraining order. Protection from Abuse (PFA). Whatever your area calls it, get it.

He will know that you mean business, and if he has changed, he'll realize he's being a jerk and go away. If he persists, that you really care for him and all that other delusional stuff, he's got MAJOR issues. Make sure it the authorities know. Make sure you notify the cops whenever he shows up. People who behave like that are just wack jobs waiting to have some kind of personality disorder, attack you, hurt (or kill) you, then plead insanity and tell the judges that they were off their meds and had no idea what they were doing.

jennielynn1970

03-16-2007, 08:35 PM

Thats the problem, I cannot change my MSN.. I am kingrattus all over the internet & have been for nearly 8yrs now... I was kingrattus here too, but I wont go there... Everything I have & do is Kingrattus... I love Kingrattus & cannot part with it because of a guy... GAH... this sucks, why couldn't he just have stayed away

Kingrattus is a name. You can pick another one.

Unless you like the drama and want the thrill of him coming back to you, you'll change it.

If you take his actions seriously, change it.

If you don't, keep the name and then deal with the repercussions.

If he ends up being a freak and hurting you, well... at least you still have your screen name.

Sorry. Sounds mean, but sometimes you have to look past things the small things and at the bigger picture.

wombat2u2004

03-16-2007, 09:24 PM

Run ladies................................ :eek:

Oh God no.....I don't need any more running after me....LOL
Wom

king2005

03-16-2007, 09:39 PM

Kingrattus is a name. You can pick another one.

Its just a dog, get a new one.

Thats kinda how I feel. I have money invested in it & its part of me. I'm not changing who I am because of some guy. I've already lost just about everything I've owned & what I have left I'm not giving up.

I was hoping there was a way around dealing with the police & not changing my name... The only option is to talk to the ploce about the issue, which I already mentioned earlier I was going to do.

columbine

03-16-2007, 10:21 PM

The only option is to talk to the ploce about the issue, which I already mentioned earlier I was going to do.Good plan! Even if they say "there's nothing we can do until he's broken a law," say "what's the definition of harassment and how do I document it" and ask them about local anti-stalking resources. You'll have to do some detective work, but don't reinvent the wheel - find the people who've already blazed the trail for people in your area.

Love, Columbine

wombat2u2004

03-17-2007, 02:55 AM

Good plan! Even if they say "there's nothing we can do until he's broken a law," say "what's the definition of harassment and how do I document it" and ask them about local anti-stalking resources. You'll have to do some detective work, but don't reinvent the wheel - find the people who've already blazed the trail for people in your area.

Love, Columbine

And on top of that...get the police to actually document the fact that you had made a complaint. I don't know what it's like where you come from....but here they do that anyway.
That way...if something happens in the future, thats added ammo for your cause.
Wombat

Scooter's Mom

03-17-2007, 07:39 PM

Thats the problem, I cannot change my MSN.. I am kingrattus all over the internet & have been for nearly 8yrs now... I was kingrattus here too, but I wont go there... Everything I have & do is Kingrattus... I love Kingrattus & cannot part with it because of a guy... GAH... this sucks, why couldn't he just have stayed away

For your own safety, you'd be amazed at what you can actually do.

I know too many people who have had ex-boyfriends harm them, TWO who have died at the hands of an ex-boyfriend they felt sure would never actually hurt them, and a minor little thing like a computer username would never hold me back from protecting myself.

Please, be cautious.

catnapper

03-17-2007, 08:27 PM

Its just a dog, get a new one.

Thats kinda how I feel. I have money invested in it & its part of me. I'm not changing who I am because of some guy. I've already lost just about everything I've owned & what I have left I'm not giving up.

I was hoping there was a way around dealing with the police & not changing my name... The only option is to talk to the ploce about the issue, which I already mentioned earlier I was going to do.
Ummm.... its not the same as "just a dog". A better analogy would be comparing it to your locks. If someone said to change your locks after you were robbed, wouldn't you? So what if you'd have to give your parents and dog sitter new keys..... those who know and love you will get the new keys (or email add.) and those that you want to keep away won't be able to come through the door.

Honestly, a name isn't worth your safety no matter what your name is. ESEPCAILLY since its just an internet name. Many of people willingly change their real names to keep themselves safe. So why fight to keep a madeup one?

wombat2u2004

03-17-2007, 08:51 PM

""Many of people willingly change their real names to keep themselves safe.""

Well I don't.....my real name is Wombat....that's what my mother named me......and I'm sticking to it. (Actually my real name is Loretta...but I can't tell you that)
Wom

Pawsitive Thinking

03-19-2007, 04:56 AM

[QUOTE=wombat2u2004Well I don't.....my real name is Wombat....that's what my mother named me......and I'm sticking to it. (Actually my real name is Loretta...but I can't tell you that)
Wom[/QUOTE]

As I said before.....typical Aussie :rolleyes: :D

Thanks for the laugh - are you on the Sheila's Wheels advert? I'd guess you are the one in the middle

wombat2u2004

03-19-2007, 05:51 AM

As I said before.....typical Aussie :rolleyes: :D

Thanks for the laugh - are you on the Sheila's Wheels advert? I'd guess you are the one in the middle

Hehehehe.......well I wouldn't mind being the one in the middle...or should I say...I wouldn't mind being WITH the one in the middle....lol.
As for Loretta....I just couldn't help myself when I posted that....I had just finished watching "The Life of Brian"......and everytime I see that "I want to be a woman" bit with Eric Idle.....I fall off my chair....lol (can't get enough of that one...lol).

Catty1

03-19-2007, 08:13 AM

Wombat: "WHAT'S YOUR FAVOURITE COLOUR?" :D

wombat2u2004

03-19-2007, 09:13 AM

Wombat: "WHAT'S YOUR FAVOURITE COLOUR?" :D

Well I could say pink.....just for Brody's Mums sake.... :eek:
But I'd best tell the truth..........it's red !!!!! :p
Is that good ????
( Say's Wombat waiting for the clanger that is about to befall him) LOL
Wom

Pawsitive Thinking

03-19-2007, 09:16 AM

Hehehehe.......well I wouldn't mind being the one in the middle...or should I say...I wouldn't mind being WITH the one in the middle....lol.
As for Loretta....I just couldn't help myself when I posted that....I had just finished watching "The Life of Brian"......and everytime I see that "I want to be a woman" bit with Eric Idle.....I fall off my chair....lol (can't get enough of that one...lol).

Are you a lumberjack?

He cuts down trees, he wears high heels,
Suspenders and a bra,
He wants to be a girlie,
Just like his dear papa????

wombat2u2004

03-19-2007, 09:20 AM

Are you a lumberjack?

He cuts down trees, he wears high heels,
Suspenders and a bra,
He wants to be a girlie,
Just like his dear papa????

Of course I'm a lumberjack !!!!!
Would you like me to sing the chorus to that ???? LOL
Wom

Pawsitive Thinking

03-19-2007, 09:48 AM

All together now............

I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK,
I sleep all night and I work all day.

He's a lumberjack and he's OK,
He sleeps all night and works all day.

king2005

03-19-2007, 10:12 AM

I had to google that, never heard of it before :S

BUT it reminded me of this, & everyone in Canada should know this. I still have the blasted tune stuck in my head.
NOW you can all have it stuck in your heads with me!! Click to get a taste (http://youtube.com/watch?v=CW9RfvtbzpY) (ignore the video)

The Log Drivers Waltz

If you should ask any girl from the parish a-round
What pleases her most from her head to her toes
She'll say: I'm not sure that it's business of yours
But I do like to waltz with a log driver, (for he goes)

CHORUS:

For he goes birling down, a-down white water
That's where the log driver learns to step lightly
It's birling down, a down white water
A log drivers waltz pleases girls com-pletely

When the drive's nearly over, I like to go down
To see all the lads while they work on the river
I know that come evening they'll be in the town
And we all want to waltz with a log driver

To please both my parents, I've had to give way
And dance with the doctors and merchants and lawyers
Their manners are fine, but their feet are of clay
For there's none with the style of a log driver

I've had my chances with all sorts of men
But none is so fine as my lad on the river
So when the drive's over, if he asks me again
I think I will marry my log driver

I just LOVE this song hehe