AvoDerm dog food?

[Flatcoatluver]

My boss orders AvoDerm and offered to order some for Zoey since she has been having skin problems. I looked at the ingredient and they look great. But some of you know a lot more then I do about food. I know this is suppost to be preminum and breeders choice. So I need your opions. Here is the ingredients.

Lamb Meal, Ground Whole Brown Rice, Ground Whole Rice, Oatmeal, Rice Bran, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Ascorbic Acid), Flax Seed, Avocado Meal, Dried Alfalfa Meal, Avocado Oil, Lecithin, Natural Flavor, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Bromelain, Papain, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Product, Monosodium Phosphate, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, DL-Alpha Tocopherol Acetate (Source of Vitamin E), Zinc Oxide, Sodium Selenite, Manganous Oxide, Riboflavin Supplement (Source of Vitamin B Complex), Copper Sulfate, Zinc Methionine, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Cobalt Proteinate, Niacin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B1), Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement.
It's atleast better dog food then Purina right?

[mr.chiwawa]

YES almost anything is better then thoes two. It sounds alright to me. Here is the link to what I feed my little guy. It has done wonders to his coat!!!
Dont know if that helped any.....probly not best of luck to you thou..
CHI HUGS

http://www.healthypetnet.com/HealthyPetNet/Products/ProductList.aspx?Ath=False&realname=&hdr=&cat=0&category=Dog_Food&MSCSProfile=983BB0CC620F5E6DD2F3D70862D2F23F808193 C05287BC22968F4BF55087516CFA733470675CB18717268E2C 76F8CDA6F51ACFC2713EF24B3767D4D338814D5348E96D6D60 E34CB45752263D3F48468802515ED9B1A9939DFBF2682C6CB3 5E8639BAAB86C1E1AA7815CAF9FC3B7DCF6FC6E6809667C3E1 9329A3040111FB5375

[borzoimom]

My boss orders AvoDerm and offered to order some for Zoey since she has been having skin problems. I looked at the ingredient and they look great. But some of you know a lot more then I do about food. I know this is suppost to be preminum and breeders chouce. So I need your opions. Here is the ingredients.

It's atleast better dog food then Iams and Purina right?
Well Zoey is eating this because of the lamb and rice combination- then the only eyebrow raiser I have, is that it does have "chicken fat" in it. The protein density and all look pretty good.. How does Zoey like it? And have you seen any results yet?
The only other thing that caught my eye was sodium selenite is pretty high on the list- but on second glance- its obvious its in the vitamin mixture of the formula. Sodium selenite main purpose is to make the stools uniform and compact- added too high on the list means this is a anal gland waiting to happen in some breeds prone to this..
But seriously flatcoatluver- it looks pretty good.. Even has rosemary in it- something not usually added in dog food, and needed for regulating hormones- which moves into thyroid, which.. etc etc etc..

[mugsy]

We carry Avoderm. There are 3 formulas...3 grades. The lowest of the 3 is just ok, but, the highest grade is very good. They are made specifically for skin problems. Also, it is baked...not extruded...so more of the nutrients are kept in...I will check tomorrow for the levels and names for you.

[lizbud]

We carry Avoderm. There are 3 formulas...3 grades. The lowest of the 3 is just ok, but, the highest grade is very good. They are made specifically for skin problems. Also, it is baked...not extruded...so more of the nutrients are kept in...I will check tomorrow for the levels and names for you.


That's interesting. Thanks for the info. :)

[Flatcoatluver]

We carry Avoderm. There are 3 formulas...3 grades. The lowest of the 3 is just ok, but, the highest grade is very good. They are made specifically for skin problems. Also, it is baked...not extruded...so more of the nutrients are kept in...I will check tomorrow for the levels and names for you.
Thank you.
Thank you for checking, with this information I will probally be ordering it. :)

[mugsy]

Mike is standing here and said that there is Original, Skin and Coat, and Plus. What you posted is the Plus. The only difference between Skin and Coat and Plus is that Skin and Coat is made with Chicken and the Plus is made with lamb.

He is curious what is wrong with the dog's skin. He has a boatload of food and is great at recommendations. What are you currently feeding?

[borzoimom]

We carry Avoderm. There are 3 formulas...3 grades. The lowest of the 3 is just ok, but, the highest grade is very good. They are made specifically for skin problems. Also, it is baked...not extruded...so more of the nutrients are kept in...I will check tomorrow for the levels and names for you.
Baked is better- one of the reasons I like the Bil Jac- the extrusion process kills most of the water soluable vitamins- allowed in the pet food industry for the anaylis is done PRIOR to this process.

[Flatcoatluver]

Mike is standing here and said that there is Original, Skin and Coat, and Plus. What you posted is the Plus. The only difference between Skin and Coat and Plus is that Skin and Coat is made with Chicken and the Plus is made with lamb.

He is curious what is wrong with the dog's skin. He has a boatload of food and is great at recommendations. What are you currently feeding?
She is currently being fed now kirkland lamb and rice. She is getting dandruffy skin and just not a great coat. I just recently treated for fleas, and I started feeding liver treats only, just incase the problem is in her treats. I am sure my boss will order me the kind that does not have chicken since her dog is allergic to chicken.

[mugsy]

Let me know how much you have to pay...we may be able to get if for you and ship it cheaper...no guarentees, but we could check...one difference, we wouldn't charge any more than what it costs us to ship it.

I will have Mike check on the Kirkland Lamb and see how it compares. We don't carry that one.

Oh, and Wellness USED to bake their food, but, now use the extrusion process.

Another REALLY good food (we are now giving it to 5 of our dogs) is Pinnacle's Duck and Potato...We had some with skin issues and coat issues as well as digestive issues and all of the issues disappeared when we switched to the Pinnacle. I got a phone call yesterday from a store in Buffalo, NY that sells Pinnacle to check and see if we sold it...so, we must be on the website eh?? lol

[mugsy]

I don't know where you are in Washington, but, on the website (http://www.breeders-choice.com/) it says there are 13 pages of retailers within 50 miles of Seattle...you might check the website and see if there are any retailers in your area before you spend the shipping costs to get it.

[Flatcoatluver]

Thanks, I am not sure how much it is but I will figure this out later on. I'm way to far from Seattle but I think it's just better to order with my boss, but I will check on pricing. Thank you for you help mugsy and your offering. :)

[borzoimom]

Flatcoatluver- check on hair of the dog as a supplement- it sure did a world of wonders for femka who is severely hypothyroid with a dry coat and skin- even helped heal her scar on her nose.. http://www.docsblend.com/H-Testimonials.html

[mugsy]

I am going to have Mike call about the "Hair of the Dog" and see about getting a sample. It looks interesting. It sounds like Solid Gold's Sea Meal. Our vet doesn't want us giving Sox the Sea Meal because the Omega 6s to 3s ratio is flipped. It's 5:1 3s to 6s.

Let us know how the Avoderm works out...I'd be interested to know...it hasn't taken off yet at the store. It's relatively new to us.

We did bring in another line called Timberwolf and it's way cool!!

[borzoimom]

I am going to have Mike call about the "Hair of the Dog" and see about getting a sample. It looks interesting. It sounds like Solid Gold's Sea Meal. Our vet doesn't want us giving Sox the Sea Meal because the Omega 6s to 3s ratio is flipped. It's 5:1 3s to 6s.

Let us know how the Avoderm works out...I'd be interested to know...it hasn't taken off yet at the store. It's relatively new to us.

We did bring in another line called Timberwolf and it's way cool!!
Hair of the dog is rich in omega 6 and 3's... Its a kept secret for us breeds that need a excellent coat in the ring, but the fact is- it works so well for the skin its amazing. Femka( got her at 5 years old) was a dusty black- lack of good food for years, and her thyroid condition- her coat was short, brittle and dry- what this did in about a month was unreal, and now she is she is the shinny black coat I bet no one would ever thought she could have..