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Dogmomx2
01-07-2007, 02:47 PM
Hi,

I am new to this forum but I have a question that I am hoping someone may be able to answer.

My four year old chocolate lab (BoBo) was turning up his nose to his previous dog food. We were feeding Nutrisource Chicken and Rice and then moved to Lamb and Rice. He was beginging to vomit after eating. We then switched him to Wolf King by Solid Gold. I transitined him over two weeks to prevent gastric distress. In the begining we had no problems and he loved the food. He has been eating straight Wolf King for about a month. About a week ago he started showing less interest and he has terrible gas. I thought it may be the new food but could he being showing signs after a month??? Why does he go from LOVING this food to disinterest in a month? Is it OK to give him an over the counter gasX pill to relieve his gas? Thank you.


Melissa

ps The two year old German Short Hair Pointer (Bailey) still loves the food ahas not shown any problems.

wolfsoul
01-07-2007, 03:15 PM
First of all, welcome to Pet Talk, and good for you for feeding a high quality food!

It is absolutely possible for a dog to develop an allergy, even to something he's been eating his entire life. :) There are digestive enzymes you can buy specifically for dogs that should help with the gas, and you can also go to your natural food store and pick up some natural sugar-free yogurt. My friend's dog was very gassy and they refused to switch her food --- as soon as they started giving her yogurt, the gas stopped.

Good luck! Hope you stick around and show us pictures of your dogs!

dragondawg
01-07-2007, 03:24 PM
is a contradiction in terms. Labs are not known to be finicky eaters.

You need to get the dog into a Vet for a blood work up. Various metabolic disorders can cause eating or digestive problems. Also just as likely are parasite problems. Gas-X is ok as simethicone pops the gas bubbles by lowering the surface tension on an air bubble. It's a totally inert substance biologically in the intestine. Of course popping gas bubbles doesn't quite get to the root of the problem. ;)

borzoimom
01-07-2007, 03:50 PM
Wolf King is not the same as solid gold. Try Solid gold Lamb or holistic. wolf king as more grains and less protein.. also- eating too much can make gas..

cmayer31
01-07-2007, 05:23 PM
Wolf King is not the same as solid gold. Try Solid gold Lamb or holistic. wolf king as more grains and less protein.. also- eating too much can make gas..

I might be wrong, but Solid Gold makes Wolf King. Solid Gold Wolf King, bison and salmon based, and Solid Gold Hund-n-Flocken, lamb based, are 22% protein and their holistic formula, all grain with some fish meal, is 18%.

If you're going for more protein and less grain I would think that Wolf King is a great mix of the lamb and holistic.

As to the question, there he may have developed a food allergy, or maybe there is something else causing the situation. I've heard of using yogurt and I think taking him to a vet to rule out other issues is a good idea. If you really think it's the food switching him slowly to another food may make the difference. The Solid Gold lamb formula that Borzoimom recommended may be a good option.

Dogmomx2
01-07-2007, 06:31 PM
Thank you for all the replies........I am feeding Solid Gold Wolf King Bison and Slamon. Bobo was at the vet about a month ago and had a workup when he was vomiting the other food and it was suggested a possible food allergy. We are trying to keep him away from Chicken. I may the enzymes and see if that works and a different flavor of Solid Gold. Does Solid Gold make the enzymes? We had a rescue that had epliepsy (she went to the bridge a couple years ago) and we fed a boiled beef and rice diet because of her illness but switched BoBo back to Kibble when she passed and we rescued Baily from the shelter. I have considered going back to that diet but with our work demands it was getting difficult to keep their meal prepared. Thanks again.

Melissa

dragondawg
01-07-2007, 08:38 PM
. Bobo was at the vet about a month ago and had a workup when he was vomiting the other food and it was suggested a possible food allergy.

Go back to the Vet and suggest they look again for protozoan type parasites- not always easily found. Ask them if a short term course of metronidazole might be worth a try? It also has an anti-inflamatory action on the intestinal lining. That's an easy try.

The fact your dog was nauseated once before on a different diet, and is now behaving as though it is feeling nauseated by its anorexia would suggest something other than a food allergy is going on. Another easy try is to ask the Vet about using an acid blocker for a month, with the idea your dog may have the beginning of an ulcer. I would suggest that you discuss with your Vet using Cimetidine 400 mg 2X daily, or Prilosec 1 mg/kg, but alas on this forum people get excited if one mentions specific dosages. So I better not mention such things. ;)

If you want to keep exploring food allergies, then ask the Vet for a specific hypo-allergenic dog food that can be tried for a short period of time or a couple of months. Again it seems strange all was well, and now all of a sudden the dog becomes anorexic on various food tries.

As for enzymes, one should first have the pancreatic enzyme levels checked by the Vet. Most enzyme insuffiencies results in diarrhea that appears greasy due to undigested fat. Note: When low pancreatic enzymes are diagnosed the Vet will usually prescribe a prescription enzyme preparation such as Viokase-V, or Pancreazyme. The cost is somewhere between $60-100 per month. What should one think if they run across a web site advertising an enzyme supplement for $20 a bottle? You get what you pay for- including nothing.

In summary you need to complain to the Vet that their guess of food allergy needs to be revisited.

ramanth
01-07-2007, 09:14 PM
Do you supplement with the Solid Gold SeaMeal? It contains the enzymes needed to help with digestion.

I just switched my two dogs over to Solid Gold Holistique Blendz. Our new rescue, Chipper has a very sensitive stomach and all other foods and most treats make him very ill.

Solid Gold says you don't have to use this supplement but they highly recommend it. :)

Solid Gold SeaMeal (http://solidgoldhealth.com/products/showproduct.php?id=36&code=591)

Chipper had horrible gas when he was sick. He's been on the food since New Years and already we've noticed a difference. No gas at all. Not sure if it's the food change, the SeaMeal, or both. But he chows down at every meal. Guess we'll see in a month if he shows a lack of interest or not.

Good luck!

borzoimom
01-08-2007, 08:33 AM
Ramanth is right. I added this to my dogs food when they had to go off of raw to solid gold and bil jac. Hottie has eaten raw his whole life, as well as the pups. I never had a moment of problems, but glad they are back on raw.. lol.

mugsy
01-08-2007, 04:21 PM
Wolf King is made by Solid Gold. Buffalo is definitely an acquired taste for dogs. But, like ramanth said...try the Solid Gold Seameal. Mike suggests
Solid Gold's D-zyme powder...it's specifically for digestive issues.

If he doesn't have an issue with beef, you could try Solid Gold's Mmillennia (yes it has 2 "m's" lol). Mike suggests mixing the Wolf King with the Mmillennia because the Wolf King may be too rich for him.

If you decide to switch foods completely, you could try Canidae Lamb and Rice. We have a dog that has digestive issues as well and he is on Pinnacle Duck and Potato....just another option. Mike carries 24 of the top 30 dog foods as rated by "Whole Dog Journal" and has 26 allergy formulas for dogs. If you would like to call him at the store, we are here 10-7 M-Th, 10-6 Friday, and 9-5 Saturday. The phone number is 260-483-0944 and his name again, is Mike.

Good luck and please keep us up to date.