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ramanth
11-25-2006, 05:59 PM
Update post #337



Not sure if it was the little bit of turkey he got on Thanksgiving or the stress of traveling 5 hours to Toronto (despite him sleeping the entire way) or a mix of both or something unknown, but Chipper is not well.

Friday morning he had soft stool which worsened to full blown diareha and also vomiting frothy bile. When he had nothing left to poop out, he'd pretty much defecate blood. :(

He won't eat anything but he is drinking water. We picked up some pedialyte in hopes to get some electolytes into him and we'll try some bland rice later.

Fingers crossed.

He does not look well.

If we can't get him to eat anything by Monday he'll be off to the vets.

Karen
11-25-2006, 06:13 PM
Awww, poor Chipper!

Cinder & Smoke
11-25-2006, 06:30 PM
:eek:

Hi God ~

Need sum Quick Help down here onna Durt Ball ... New Guy Chipper hadda *ruff* Holiday
an sure izint feelin too "chipper" rite now! :(

Dunno iffin he's alergic to Turkey or travelin ... but he's a Sick Pup anna Folks are worried!
Iffin we gotta "choice" - we'd rather it be alergic ta Turkey ...
his Fambily are the Travelin Kind ... an he sorta needs ta be able to go Bus Ridin
wiffout gettin tummy trubles.

Not even sure WHERE he is rite now - maybe Toronto or maybe Mish-e-gun ...
but hopefully You can *spot* him an do sum tummie fixin on him.

We'll all be *krossin* Pawz & Klawz, an sendin Prayers for a Quick Fix on Chipper.

THANKS, God!

/s/ the Prayer Pups

k9krazee
11-25-2006, 06:42 PM
Oh no :( He'll be in my thoughts, hope he's feeling better soon!

lizbud
11-25-2006, 06:45 PM
Sorry to hear that about Chipper. :( poor baby.Prayers and positive
thoughts for Chipper. Hope he keeps the water down, that can help.

Cinder & Smoke
11-25-2006, 06:54 PM
Not sure if it was the little bit of turkey he got on Thanksgiving ...

He does not look well.

If we can't get him to eat anything by Monday he'll be off to the vets.

* Alergic to Turkey ??

* Picked up a *bug* in the Canadian WATER ??

* Could he be suffering from Bloat / Twisted Stomach / Gastric Dilatation ??

Bloat seems unlikely IF he is able to actually "throw up" - but I'm not sure I'd want to
wait till Monday if he hasn't shown some improvement by tomorrow.

Routine Upset Tummy remedy is NO food for 24 hours;
then try rice + boiled chicken or rice + WELL-cooked hamburger.

FEEL BETTER SOON, Chipper!

{{{Hugs}}} to the Mom & Dad

/s/ Phred

CatLuvrs
11-25-2006, 07:03 PM
Aww poor Chipper! Hope he feels better soon!

borzoimom
11-25-2006, 07:15 PM
Not sure if it was the little bit of turkey he got on Thanksgiving or the stress of traveling 5 hours to Toronto (despite him sleeping the entire way) or a mix of both or something unknown, but Chipper is not well.

Friday morning he had soft stool which worsened to full blown diareha and also vomiting frothy bile. When he had nothing left to poop out, he'd pretty much defecate blood. :(

He won't eat anything but he is drinking water. We picked up some pedialyte in hopes to get some electolytes into him and we'll try some bland rice later.

Fingers crossed.

He does not look well.

If we can't get him to eat anything by Monday he'll be off to the vets.
Poultry will give soft bowel if they are not use to it, and turkey more so. Your idea of pedialyte is a good one, and I agree- if not better to the vets.
Meanwhile- withhold breakfast to allow the stomach to clear out, then half rations the dinner feeding. "Frothy bile" is gas in the stomach. If you are sure he didnt get a bone, then I would say this will clear it.

Cincy'sMom
11-25-2006, 07:47 PM
Poor Chipper :( Hope your tummy feels better real soon!

jenluckenbach
11-25-2006, 08:49 PM
My vet once told me she sees a LOT of diarrhea after thanksgiving. And TURKEY is the cause. So hoping that is all it is, poor boy. :(

cyber-sibes
11-25-2006, 09:12 PM
:( Hope Chipper's feeling chipper again soon!

areias
11-25-2006, 09:52 PM
I don't want to worry you, but I wouldn't wait until Monday. I forget, was he in a shelter environment? Around a lot of new dogs? The symptoms sound like parvo. Does the diarrhea have a horrible stench? Worse than 'regular' diarrhea?

Vomitting, loss of appetite, and bloody diarrhea are tell-tale signs of parvo. *Hopefully* and fingers crossed it's just a little bit of an upset tummy, but I would get him to the vet....

wolf_Q
11-25-2006, 10:47 PM
I'm sorry to hear that Chipper is not feeling well. :( I hope its nothing serious and he'll be feeling better soon!

ramanth
11-26-2006, 10:42 AM
Hey guys! Great news! He's eating again (just little bites of his normal crunchies) and is back in chipper spirits. :) He's been playing with his toys and Kia but we're making sure he doesn't over do it.

We're still in Toronto btw so there was no way to get him to our vet (besides the fact she's gone on vacation)- I did talk to the vet staff on Saturday though and they talked me through the steps to take.

Last night was really rough. He refused the pedialyte and the cooked rice. We tried force feeding the rice to no avail. He was stressing out so we left him be. Even though the package said not too, we ended up diluting the pedialyte and he did take a few sips. We left a handfull of crunchies and rice in his crate with him overnight in the hopes he'd want some.

At 7 a.m. he woke us to the sounds of him sucking down the diluted pedialyte. I took him outside where he peed but there was no diarreha or vomit to be had. Yay! Upon coming back inside, he went over to Andy, gave him kisses, then went to the food bowl and started eating the crunchies!! :D :D

He then grabbed his toys and wanted to play tug. Then he initiated play with Kia. And it's been that way all morning.

I really think the turkey is what did a number on him. No people food ever again.... or at least for a real long time. ;)

I'm not concerned about Parvo. He received a clean bill of health at the vets last Monday and his stool sample showed nothing wrong.

We'll be keeping an eye on him though. We also plan to make more stops on the way home so he can stretch his legs and get some fresh air.

Thanks so much for the PT prayers. They did wonders. We were really scared for a out little boy for a second there.

Actually... I got to go....they are running through the house like banshees at the moment... :rolleyes:

Crikit
11-26-2006, 11:12 AM
Glad to hear that Chipper is feeling better.

A friend of mine who is a vet tech has said a few times that Turkey actually isn't good for dogs because of something in it...kind of makes you wonder why they make turkey dog treats huh?

borzoimom
11-26-2006, 11:13 AM
Thats wonderful news! He just had an upset stomach, and I am glad he is better.

lizbud
11-26-2006, 11:17 AM
So relieved to hear that Chipper is doing so much better. :) Now, you
all can enjoy your trip.

mugsy
11-26-2006, 12:13 PM
Excellent news! However, parvo has a 14 day incubation....I had the same thought! Will continue to keep Little Man in my thoughts and prayers!

Cinder & Smoke
11-26-2006, 12:30 PM
:)
Hi God ~

Hey God ~ Check dis out >>>




Hey guys! Great news!
He's eating again (just little bites of his normal crunchies) and
is back in chipper spirits. :)

Upon coming back inside, he went over to Andy, gave him kisses, then
went to the food bowl and started eating the crunchies!! :D :D

He then grabbed his toys and wanted to play tug.

Did'ja spend da nite in Toronto, God?
You sure do *Nice Werk*, God!!

THANKS a Bunch fur fixin Chipper up!!

/s/ the :) Prayer Pups

Sudilar
11-26-2006, 12:34 PM
Glad Chipper is feeling better!!

Ginger's Mom
11-26-2006, 05:05 PM
Only have a few minutes, but I had to check on this thread. I am so glad that Chipper is feeling better. I have been thinking about him all day.

dukedogsmom
11-26-2006, 05:17 PM
I'm sorry I missed this but very glad Chipper is indeed, chipper again. He's such a doll.

ramanth
11-26-2006, 10:22 PM
Hey everyone. :) Thanks for the good thoughts. We are finally home... 8 hours later! :eek: Got to the border and encountered a 2 hour back up. Oiy. :rolleyes: My bladder was not amused. :p ;)

The pups had no accidents and both just chowed down dinner. We're going to continue giving him the diluted pedialyte since it has a short shelf life once opened. Might as well use it up.

Chipper had a soft poop before we left Toronto. No blood to be found and he was riled up all the way up to the moment we loaded them into the car. He just won't slow down. Those 2 days with no food show though. You can see his ribs. :(

Hopefully he'll gain it back and the rest of the weight he needs soon.

ramanth
11-27-2006, 10:56 AM
A little update. No accidents over night. Andy took both pups out at 6 a.m. and they peed.

Both headed straight to their beds upon coming back inside and there they stayed until I heard the tell tale sign of an animal hurking up something. Turns out it was Chipper and I got him into the kitchen where he hocked up what I would describe as a loogie. Thick, clear, and really no smell. Interesting.

A few minutes later he was doing the "I REALLY got to go" dance, so I took him out where he had more diarreha. :( Poor guy. No sign of blood though. He seemed pretty down this morning.

I'm going to double check his vaccination records to see what he's been covered for. I don't want to over react, but better to err on the side of caution. I can't bear the thought of losing my little man.

Queen of Poop
11-27-2006, 11:07 AM
Sounds like he needs to go to the vet. My Sasha, this summer had several episodes of dirreha and vomiting. She became dehydrated. The vet gave her sub Q fluids and we put her on a gastro diet. She's not had an episode since.

luvofallhorses
11-27-2006, 03:26 PM
aww I hope he feels better soon! (((HUGS)))

ramanth
11-27-2006, 04:45 PM
Came home and found vomit in his crate. :(

He wants to play with his toys so he's in a slightly better mood. He keeps bringing me different squeaky toys to play tug.

Didn't touch any of the food left in his crate with him. Hopefully he'll want some dinner.

He is still drinking water and having good strong pees. I also keep checking his skin to see if it's tenting at all (which it isn't) so as far as I can tell he's staying hydrated.

He received a DACCP vaccination from the shelter in September. I tried google but I can't figure out what that covers. Distemper, Parvo, or both? :confused:

I'll be calling the vet first thing in the morning.

lizbud
11-27-2006, 04:58 PM
That's a good idea to call in the morning. Hope they can help him
get leveled out. Poor Chipper. Hope you feel better soon.

Cinder & Smoke
11-27-2006, 05:08 PM
Came home and found vomit in his crate. :(

He received a DACCP vaccination from the shelter in September.
I tried google but I can't figure out what that covers. Distemper, Parvo, or both? :confused:

"DACCP" is a puzzle!

Most Vets shoot a "Five-in-One" Vaccine, normally abbreviated "DHLPP" which protects against:
* Distemper
* Hepatitis
* Leptospirosis
* Parainfluenza
* Parvovirus

"The ASPCA recommends a five-in-one vaccination that protects dogs against several infectious diseases, including distemper, hepatitis, leptospirosis, parainfluenza and parvovirus, a highly contagious and potentially deadly disease that causes severe vomiting and diarrhea."

Did you check the Rescue web site to see if they mention anything about the
vaccinations they use?

Sure do hope the Poor Kid gets to feelin better!!

ramanth
11-27-2006, 06:20 PM
Here's where we got him from:
http://www.oakgov.com/anmlctrl/

No signs of what they vaccinate for. Though I'm curious why Chipper's adoption fee was $136.50 when their site states it's $119 (and why a sterilization fee would be assessed when they didn't neuter him). :\

Anyway... his vaccination certificate says he received a DACCP and Bordetella on 9/24/06. He was heartworm tested (came back negative) and wormed on 9/29/06.

I took him to the vet on Monday, November 20th and his brief examination showed no fleas, clean ears, good teeth and overall decent condition. Dropped off his stool sample on Tuesday and it came back negative for parasites.

He ate crunchies with vigor with no vomiting and had loose stool but I knew that would be expected with the change in diet from whatever he was getting at the shelter.

He ate a full bowl of crunchies Thursday evening and besides the added bites of turkey, got no other people food.

Friday morning he refused treats and food, had diarreha, but drank water.

Friday night he began vomiting and refused food and the diarreha got worse.

Saturday was the same. Diarreha, vomiting, refusal of food but drank plenty of water.

Sunday morning he nibbled a handful worth of crunchies. Things were looking up. He again nibbled some more upon getting home.

This morning he refused food and treats. More diarreha, vomit when I got home.

I'm so baffled. :(

He's now laying on the couch, Kia on the floor near him. He doesn't want to do anything. I have a really bad gut feeling that he's not going to want dinner.

Do you think I could add some tuna juice to it? I miss my chipper boy.

xcolbi
11-27-2006, 06:29 PM
Oh my! I hope he gets well soon! :(

Cinder & Smoke
11-27-2006, 06:38 PM
This morning he refused food and treats. More diarreha, vomit when I got home.

He's now laying on the couch ...
He doesn't want to do anything.

I have a really bad gut feeling that he's not going to want dinner.

Kimmy ~

Serious suggestion ~
Maybe it's time to completely Empty & Flush his system ...
do what Vets suggest for "upset tummy" ...

NOTHING by mouth except small sips of water for 24 Hours.

If the Vet needs to X-ray or Ultrasound him - they'll want him "empty" ...
so starting him on a Fast tonight would help.

Feel Better, Bub!

/s/ Phred

Uabassoon
11-27-2006, 06:43 PM
I'm sorry to hear that he still isn't feeling better. I will keep Chipper in my thoughts that he starts to feel better soon.

ramanth
11-27-2006, 07:02 PM
But he's fasted for over 48 hours already. :( Two handfuls of food is the equivilant of what he had on Sunday. Pooped this morning and has had no food. I can't imagine a more empty tummy. How long can they go without food?

Cinder & Smoke
11-27-2006, 07:16 PM
But he's fasted for over 48 hours already. :(

Pooped this morning and has had no food.
I can't imagine a more empty tummy.
How long can they go without food?

:D
Poor Kid!

How long?
A dog in otherwise good condition can go several DAYS
without solid food - as long as he stays hydrated with water.

I'd leave him on "empty" till the Vet gets a look and runs some tests.

He MAY have a food alergy - and just a few pieces of kibble could be
enough to trigger the upsets.

I STILL can't find any info on the "DACCP" vaccination - could you be misreading the letters?

His "Fees"??
Extra $25.50 for License? For Rabies? For "storage"?
LOTS of Rescues charge a "Flat Fee" which includes spay/neuter (IF required) -
everyone pays the SAME fee regardless of the critter's spay/neuter needs.

tikeyas_mom
11-27-2006, 07:22 PM
oh no Chipper get well soon big boy!!

cyber-sibes
11-27-2006, 11:01 PM
:( I hope the vet can figure out what's wrong, poor guy. Star used to go without any food for 3 days at a time. No special reason, she just didn't feel like eating, I guess. I suppose when Chipper feels like it, he'll eat.

wolf_Q
11-27-2006, 11:09 PM
I'm sorry to hear that Chipper isn't getting better. :( I hope he'll be ok!

Nebo has gone over a week with eating practically nothing.....he doesn't like to eat away from home. He lost about 9 lbs when we went to Florida/Ohio because he wouldn't eat his food, only treats and water. He was fine, but he wasn't thin to begin with like Chipper.

luvofallhorses
11-27-2006, 11:22 PM
It sounds like he needs to go to the vet asap. I hope it turns out to be nothing serious. :( he'll be in my thoughts. (((Chipper))) please keep us updated.

K9karen
11-27-2006, 11:45 PM
Sorry I just saw this, Kim.

Tons of prayers for Chipper. It's so upsetting to watch our pets ill and leaving us baffled. Please let us know what the vet says.

I gave Cody a small amount of turkey only once and learned my lesson. He had a cast iron stomach but the turkey just about did him in. He also passed some blood, but the vet thought it was due to bowel irritation. For the first time since I've had her, I gave Logan a teeny piece of plain cooked chicken tonight, and she is laying behind me..and the room stinks. Gas butt. A first. No more people food for her, except her Special K treat.

I truly hope Chipper's back to good health soon!

krazyaboutkatz
11-28-2006, 12:38 AM
I'm so sorry to hear that Chipper isn't feeling well.:( I hope that it isn't anything serious and that the vet will be able to help him. Lots of prayers and positive thoughts are being sent his way. Please continue to keep us updated about him.

Daisy and Delilah
11-28-2006, 06:00 AM
FEEL BETTER CHIPPER!! You'll all remain in our thoughts and prayers :(

cloverfdx
11-28-2006, 06:37 AM
Good healing vibes on the way for sweet Chipper.. i realy hope the vets can figure out what is going on with him asap. {{Hugs}} For you both.

BOBS DAD
11-28-2006, 07:28 AM
Wow... just caught up on Chipper. Hope that he is better soon and that the vet can figure out what is going on. Good luck.

mugsy
11-28-2006, 08:07 AM
Kimmy,
Get him to the vet!!! All of these symptoms are classic signs of parvo. The incubation period is 14 days and until he has had 3 shots of the vaccine he is not fully protected and even then it's not a guarentee. I've seen perfectly healthy adult dogs who are fully vaccinated come down with because the virus mutated and they got a different strain.

Even with the water, he is losing electolytes, so will probably need sub Q fluids.

Let us know!!

Molly

KYS
11-28-2006, 09:20 AM
Wishing Chipper good well thoughts that he will be ok.
Please keep us posted on how he is doing and what the
vet says.

ramanth
11-28-2006, 10:14 AM
No accidents overnight and peed at 6 a.m. He's been gassy but no poop.

Got Chipper into the vet at 9 a.m. this morning. He's lost 3 lbs.

He doesn't have a fever and the vet could not detect any masses in his tummy or bowels. He was a little dehydrated so they gave him Sub Q fluids. They also gave him some meds (listed as Rapid Response on the invoice) and sent me home with a can of ID and some Loperamide (anti-diarreha) pills.

The Sub Q fluids really perked him up. He initiated play with Kia the moment we got home and happily took a piece of science diet jerky.

At this point the vet is treating it as an upset tummy either due to his new diet, the bit of turkey he got, or simply a doggie cold. If he doesn't start eating by Thursday they'll run blood tests and take X-rays.

I'm to see if he'll eat small bits of his normal crunchies first, but if not, I have the ID to try or I can give him chicken and rice.

Wish us luck!

Cinder & Smoke
11-28-2006, 10:39 AM
Got Chipper into the vet at 9 a.m. this morning. He's lost 3 lbs.

He doesn't have a fever ...

At this point the vet is treating it as an upset tummy either
due to his new diet, the bit of turkey he got, or simply a doggie cold.
If he doesn't start eating by Thursday they'll run blood tests and take X-rays.


Kimmy & Andy ~

I hate to try "second guessing" a trained & trusted Vet ...
but I'd think a slightly more agressive "diagnosis plan" should be used for Chipper.

I certainly hope & pray it's nothing "serious" ... but with symptoms repeating so often -
he really does seem to be "sick" in some way ...

I'd be asking for a complete Blood Study at the minimum ... and NOW - not on Thursday.

And since it's been brought up - and shouldn't be just ignored -
testing him for Parvo would seem prudent.

Here's a really detailed discussion on Parvovirus - diagnosing, treating, and warnings. >>>
http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/is_parvovirus_canine.shtml

I sure HOPE it's just an upset tummy ...

{{{Hugs}}} to All!

/s/ Phred

BC_MoM
11-28-2006, 10:50 AM
This sounds just like what is happening to a Border Collie litter that a member of a board I'm on is fostering. Two have died. They are giving the same treatment, but the vet has no idea what's wrong.

I agree with Phred, why look into it later than sooner????

Ginger's Mom
11-28-2006, 10:56 AM
I sure hope the sub-q fluids help. I will continue to pray for that handsome boy.

ramanth
11-28-2006, 11:00 AM
The vets office is open until 7 and she said I can bring him back in tonight if he doesn't appear to improve or if he vomits.

shais_mom
11-28-2006, 11:30 AM
I didn't see this thread until now but I saw your post on LJ-
I hope he's doing better. I'd get a blood panel ran on him too -
I know Kia is up to date but parvo isn't something to mess with. A good friend of mine lost her adult dobe years ago to parvo.

pitc9
11-28-2006, 12:08 PM
Oh Kimmy... I'm so sorry I've only just now seen this.... I wouldn't wait!
Better to be safe!

Hugs to you and the crew!
Please keep us posted!

caseysmom
11-28-2006, 12:13 PM
I hope chipper gets better real soon, Casey has a very sensitive stomach and has had a few episodes like this.

Once it was from a couple of pieces of pork chop.

Jadapit
11-28-2006, 12:30 PM
I haven't logged onto PT in a couple of days so I'm just now seeing this. I'm really sorry Chipper isn't feeling well. I know its hard on you also. You both will be in my thoughts and prayers. (((Hugs)))

Logan
11-28-2006, 12:39 PM
I have missed this thread, too, Kimmy. :o Sorry. I am not used to Chipper's name, yet, I guess.

I will keep Chipper in my prayers. I know you are ready for him to feel better.

Logan

ramanth
11-28-2006, 12:49 PM
Chipper goes in at 5:30 to have some blood taken. :)

dukedogsmom
11-28-2006, 12:56 PM
I am so sorry. I hope he gets well. This is just terrible. Please keep us posted.

areias
11-28-2006, 01:55 PM
Oh no, I never checked back on this thread-I thought he was doing better. Did the vet say anything about parvo? I would seriously get him checked for parvo, judging from what the symptoms are. An unvaccinated dog, that gets only one parvo booster, and is possibly exposed to it in a shelter environment is VERY susceptible to it. The vet I worked at ALWAYS recommended 2-3 boosters for unvaccinated adult dogs as well as puppies.

Provided that's not the problem, hopefully it's just a bout of a GI irritation or something.

Get well soon, Chipper.

Edit: Maybe pancreatitis??

anna_66
11-28-2006, 02:59 PM
Gosh, don't know how I missed this:o I just got done reading through the whole thread and I'm so sorry to hear he's taken a step back:( I do hope it's nothing bad and he's on the road to recovery soon.

(((HUGS)))
Anna

ramanth
11-28-2006, 05:20 PM
Back from the vet. Prior I took him and Kia outside for a quick potty break. He had liquid diarreha and peed. I took Kia back inside and took Chipper over to the vet.

He had more diarreha in the exam room and it looked pretty nasty.

They took him back for the blood and when the Vet brought him out to me, he again squatted and this time it was bloody diarreha. :(

They are running a full CBC panel. They'll call tonight with the results.

She instructed me to give him another dose of meds when I got back, wait 45 minutes and then see if he'll eat a teaspoon of the ID. So I'll try to feed him at 6:45.

I hate waiting... :(

Logan
11-28-2006, 05:45 PM
Oh Kimmy, of course you are worried. I'm so glad you took Chipper back in, though. Hopefully the vet can isolate the problem and get that boy feeling better soon.

Thank you for keeping us informed.

Logan

lizbud
11-28-2006, 05:59 PM
Kimmy, this doesn't sound good at all. Any chance Chipper could stay
over at the Vets for monitering? I'll keep you & Chipper in my prayers.

cyber-sibes
11-28-2006, 06:05 PM
Just want you to know we've still got all paws crossed & are praying for Chipper. (((hugs)))

ramanth
11-28-2006, 06:20 PM
His blood protein levels are very low.

She mentioned long term intestinal issues and was hesitant to say it could be parvo but she didn't rule it out. She sounds like she wants to be optimistic and told me how she doesn't see parvo very often in adult dogs. But it's just not looking good.

She asked me to monitor him and bring him in for more Sub Q fluids at 9 a.m. She mentioned putting him on antibiotics. She also said he may need protein transfusions which he'd need to go to MSU for.... I'm not sure.... everything she said was such a blur.

Like she instructed I gave him his meds at 6 p.m. He refused the ID at 6:45 (she called just before I was going to give it to him). He then got me and went to the door at 6:50. More bloody diarreha. He vomited twice at 7.

I'm going to cook myself up some chicken and see if he's interested.

My heart is breaking. :( :(

BC_MoM
11-28-2006, 06:31 PM
I know he's not a BC, but go to www.bcrescue.org/phpbb2/index.php and join. Post about this in the health section. There are many very intelligent rescue people who have seen it all and may be able to offer some advice or suggestions.

I'm praying for Chipper right now. I know of an adult dog that had parvo, but was able to quickly recover.

Denyce
11-28-2006, 06:40 PM
Ok I sent you a pm about this but I looked up some information on it and thought I would post it here. I will just cut and paste the real pertinant information

Whipworms
Generally a dog's response to a whipworm infection is relatively mild, although exceptions do occur. Heavy infections can result in bouts of diarrhea and feces may be streaked with fresh blood. Young dogs or dogs with a chronic infection can suffer severe weight loss, dehydration due to diarrhea, and anemia.
Many dogs will carry infections of whipworms without much problem. Some dogs, however, will develop periodic smelly diarrhea which can become a severe problem. Large numbers of whipworms irritate the lining of your dog's intestine causing weight loss and pain. Whipworms are not dangerous to people, but once dogs become infected, whipworms are difficult to eliminate without medication programs. Large amounts of mucous are produced by the inflamed intestine. Sometimes hemorrhage into the intestine occurs and anemia can result. In very heavy infestions the worms may penetrate through the intestinal wall and the resulting inflammation causes the intestine to adhere to the body wall. Animals with this condition may frequently lick their right flank where the adhesion occurs.

Also, in dogs suffering from bloody diarrhea as a result of the infection, finding the eggs can be difficult.

A minimum of four fecal exams over a four-day period should be conducted before a negative diagnosis is made. Because of intermittent egg-shedding, a whipworm infection may not be correctly diagnosed. A follow-up exam may be necessary to rule out the possibility of infection.

Since the adult Whipworms may not lay eggs everyday, if your veterinarian performs a fecal flatation and looks for Whipworm eggs they might not be found. But the diarrhea keeps coming and going.

Cincy'sMom
11-28-2006, 06:41 PM
Lots of thoughts and prayers for dear Chipper. I hope the vet is able to find out the cause of his problems and help him feel better soon!

Ginger's Mom
11-28-2006, 06:47 PM
Oh Kimmy, I am so upset for you and Chipper. {{{Big Hugs}}} I will continue sending out positive thoughts and prayers.

ramanth
11-28-2006, 06:52 PM
Thanks for the info Denyce. I'll mention the whipworms tomorrow when we take him in.

Thanks for the thoughts everyone.

dukedogsmom
11-28-2006, 07:05 PM
My heart is breaking with you. I hope Chipper can be cured of whatever is making him so sick. Give him some hugs from me.

Logan
11-28-2006, 07:11 PM
This is certainly not the report that we were all hoping for, Kimmy. :(

Obviously, Chipper is a very sick boy. Our prayers for him will continue.

Logan

luvofallhorses
11-28-2006, 07:26 PM
oh no! :( I am so sorry, Kimmy. I will keep you, your family, and Chipper in my thoughts and prayers. ((((HUGS)))) give him some hugs from me, too please.

Uabassoon
11-28-2006, 07:49 PM
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he will get through this quickly. I understand what you are going through, we went through something similar when we adopted Dewey and he was sick.

Fett
11-28-2006, 07:49 PM
What sucks the most is that he was fine for the first 4 days we had him, then the 5th day BAM! This happens. Now he's been sick for the next 4 days after Thanksgiving day.

:(

Daisy and Delilah
11-28-2006, 09:21 PM
We're praying as hard as we can down here in Florida that Chipper will snap out of it. My heart is breaking for both of you too. Please get well Chipper!! We love you!! :(

BOBS DAD
11-28-2006, 10:36 PM
WOW... I was hoping for better updates than I just read. I'll keep hoping for some positive turnabout and will check back tomorrow. Good luck and hang in there.

Tollers-n-Dobes
11-28-2006, 11:02 PM
I am so sorry you guys. :(

I hope Chipper get's to feeling better soon and it isn't anything he can't recover from rather quickly!

wolf_Q
11-28-2006, 11:04 PM
I'm very sorry to hear the update. :( I hope he'll get feeling better, he looks like such a sweet boy!

krazyaboutkatz
11-28-2006, 11:30 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that Chipper is so sick.:( I sure hope that it's nothing serious and that the vet will be able to help him. Lots more prayers and positive thoughts are being sent his way.

captain
11-28-2006, 11:56 PM
OMGoodness - I am so behind.

I commented on your thread when you got Chipper, and Phred's post pointed me here.
I am so sorry to hear Chipper is not well, and am sending you hugs and prayers that he recovers soon.

CathyBogart
11-29-2006, 12:22 AM
Chipper, sorry to hear that you're not feeling good. I felt a lot like that few weeks ago and it turned out I had giardia. :( NO FUN! I hope you're feeling better soon. Are you staying hydrated okay? Make sure to drink lotsa water ok?

-Jasper

caseysmom
11-29-2006, 01:26 AM
Its hard not to think the worse but he is an adult dog so hopefully it is not parvo...it could be many things, try to stay calm and think positive. Chipper will be in my thoughts.

cloverfdx
11-29-2006, 02:17 AM
{{Hugs}} For you all.. and lots of positive thoughts and vibes on the way. My heart is breaking for you :(. I hope the vets are able to figure out what is happening quickly.

ramanth
11-29-2006, 05:31 AM
Thank you all for the good thoughts.

He would not touch anything I tried to give him. He'll now only drink water if I coax him, not very willingly. But he drank a full bowl which was encouraging.

When Andy got home from work we discussed whether we should just take him straight to MSU or wait until the morning for the vet referral. Since the vets office has the results of the blood work and other notes, we figured we'd keep him alive during the night with fluids, and unless he took a huge nasty turn, take him to his 9 a.m. appointment for a Sub Q injection (and possibly get a few X rays) and take all of that over to MSU.

So far so good. He wasn't very happy with me when I turned on the lights this morning. His mouth is a little dry but his skin is not tenting.

I'm starting to wonder if I'm dealing with a blockage. He did have a greenie on the 20th and a bone on the 21st. Of course only an X-ray would know for sure.

Vela
11-29-2006, 07:14 AM
How horrible! I'm so sorry he is so sick. I would also get him x-rays immediately to check for a blockage. I don't usually say anything because most feel greenies are fine, and most of the time they seem to be, but if he DID gulp any larger pieces it could have caused a blockage or partial blockage and it could indeed be causing his problems. Of course I hope he just gets better, how horribly sad since he just came to join your family, he seems like such a sweetie. I know how you feel with regards to a new dog having so many health issues, I almost lost Ginger the first month I had her too and had 800 in vet bills within the first two weeks to try to save her, and another 400 the next month in vet bills. I will pray you have the same outcome we did and he turns out to be okay. Prayers for you all!

pitc9
11-29-2006, 07:16 AM
Oh No!
:(
My thoughts and prayers are with you all right now.

Come on Chipper..... hang in there little buddy! :(

borzoimom
11-29-2006, 07:25 AM
I agree about the x-ray. There were several reports bouncing around a few months back about the greenies causing blockage. It was alarming enough to me to permanently never give them again. My vet even pulled them from their office.
YOu all are in our prayers.

ramanth
11-29-2006, 07:31 AM
He finally got up and around. He didn't want to go out at 6 with Kia.

Took him out and he had a nice strong pee. No diarreha. He's now on the couch. We'll be leaving for the vets soon. Not sure when I'll get a chance to update. I don't think I'll make it into work and Andy doesn't have access to a computer.

Wish us luck.

anna_66
11-29-2006, 07:36 AM
Oh Kim:(

I see your getting ready to leave now. You'll definitely be in our thoughts and prayers today along with crossed fingers toes and paws for luck.

More (((HUGS)))
Anna

RedHedd
11-29-2006, 08:02 AM
Oh Kim! I'm so sorry to hear all of this with Chipper. I do hope the vets at MSU can help and that he turns a corner and gets better. Prayers going out your way. G and the M's

Cataholic
11-29-2006, 08:20 AM
Oh, gosh. I am so sorry to hear this. Post when you can. :(

k9krazee
11-29-2006, 08:36 AM
I'm so sorry he's not improving much :( You guys have been in my thoughts. Good luck, I hope you have answers soon!

Edwina's Secretary
11-29-2006, 09:16 AM
Oh Kimmy! I had checked last night and he was better. I am so hoping Chipper gets chipper again soon!

Queen of Poop
11-29-2006, 09:45 AM
Ok Chipper, today's the day we find out what is ailing you and get you on the road to recovery!! Positive thoughts coming your way. Hugs for you all.

pitc9
11-29-2006, 09:47 AM
Hugs to you all today!!
Can't wait for an update!!!

tatsxxx11
11-29-2006, 10:45 AM
Thanks for alerting me, Kimmy! Paws, fingers, everything crossed for your sweet boy. Hopefully you'll have some answers very soon! Sending you all of love and support, postitive thoughts for a encouraging update Check back when you're able.

{{{HUGS}}}
Sandra

Kfamr
11-29-2006, 11:17 AM
I'm so sorry Chipper isn't feeling well, and all so sudden! You'd think the people at the shelter would have noticed him not feeling well, but it happened so quickly. :( I rarely come to Dog Health so I am glad you alerted me!

Kimmy, I finished your signature the other day but haven't had a chance of uploading it yet. Here it is if you'd still like it. :)

{{HUGS}} to you and Chipper, we'll be thinking of you.

caseysmom
11-29-2006, 11:34 AM
Kay...I think he was okay for about 5 days after they brought him home.

gini
11-29-2006, 11:43 AM
What a terrible thing for everyone to be going through. Poor Chipper........he really wants to feel better that's for sure.

I hope you will have some good updates for us. I will be sending some prayers for you and will keep watching this thread.

mina'smomma
11-29-2006, 11:49 AM
Hey Sweetie I got your pm. I'm so sorry Chipper isn't feeling well. Let me know what you find out from the vets sweetie.

moosmom
11-29-2006, 11:52 AM
Kimmy and Andy,

You and Chipper are in my thoughts and prayers. I hope the vet finds out what the problem is and can cure Chipper.

Please call me when you find out anything. I'm off from work today and await any news.

((((HUGS))))

Donna

ramanth
11-29-2006, 12:03 PM
It's like deja vu honestly. Walking into that clinic I instantly remembered the way it smelled and sounded when Kia was admitted. Only difference is that Kia was wheeled in on a gurney while Chipper waited with me.


He's been admitted and is on an IV and catheter. Dr. Beal and his staff are very nice and I like him. They did a fecal test for parvo right off the bat and it came back negative. A good sign, but Dr. Beal says there is a slim chance it could still be parvo.

They are going to do extensive blood and urine tests. If his white blood cell count is low, he will be put into the isolation ward where they will test more extensively for parvo. If his white blood cell count is normal, they will focus on Addison's Disease and whipworms. If those tests come back negative or inconclusive, they will take X-rays to look for a blockage. They will also do a test for salmonella just in case.

But for the time being they feel they are dealing with Addison's Disease, whipworms, or a blockage.

During the exam, Chipper was found to have a slow heart rate, his ears were noticiably cold, but his lymph nodes are okay.

They expect to have a clear answer today, will keep him overnight, and hopefully he can come home tomorrow. :)

If I don't hear back from them by 3 p.m., they told me to call in for an update.

I contacted Oakland County and Chipper was picked up as a stray in Waterford, MI. He was already neutered, so either he ran away or someone let him go.

Dr. Beal said Chipper's lucky I got him in when I did. He's a very sick puppy. :(

Vela
11-29-2006, 12:17 PM
I hope they are able to pinpoint the cause quickly and get him taken care of and on the road to recovery. I was lucky I got Ginger when I did too, and she has been a joy in my life. I have faith that Chipper will be just fine and go on to have a long happy life in your family.

krazyaboutkatz
11-29-2006, 12:34 PM
Kimmy,Poor Chipper.:( I'm still keeping Chipper in my thoughts and prayers and I hope that you receive some good news tonight. Whatever he has I sure hope that it's not serious and can be easily treated. Please take care. (((HUGS)))

Daisy and Delilah
11-29-2006, 12:39 PM
I hope you don't mind that I have put Chipper's picture on my desktop so I can see his adorable facie everytime I'm at the computer. Me and the girls are praying so hard for him and talking to his picture. GET WELL CUTIE PIE!!!
{{{{{HUGS}}}}} :) :) :)

Husky_mom
11-29-2006, 12:40 PM
Hoping that whatever he has him sick, goes away so he can be a happy healthy puppy romping around.........

((hugs))........and good vibes your way

luvofallhorses
11-29-2006, 12:43 PM
the poor baby! :( I really hope it isn't parvo or anything serious. :( I will keep you, your family, and Chipper in my thoughts and prayers. (((HUGS))) please keep us updated, which I am sure you will. :)

Queen of Poop
11-29-2006, 12:48 PM
Chipper's in the right place to get well. I pray that they figure it out quickly so he doesn't have to feel sick for much longer.

wolflady
11-29-2006, 12:49 PM
Gosh, I'm so sorry that you're going through this with your new baby! Prayers are definitely on the way for Chipper. Did the vet consider colitis? It can be really nasty and bloody diarrhea, but easy to treat. I certainly hope they can figure it out soon and get him on his way to feeling good!

Bless your heart. He's certainly one lucky puppy to have landing in such a good home!

**hugs**
Karen

ramanth
11-29-2006, 01:00 PM
Just got off the phone with Dr. Beal.

The blood test showed negative for Addison's Disease. So they took an X-ray and found what may be a partial obstruction. They are giving him barium right now to verify if it's an obstruction or not. He'll call me with the results and of course if it is an obstruction, he'll need surgery.

cyber-sibes
11-29-2006, 01:03 PM
Sounds like they're making progress. I'm still praying for Chipper. You & Andy are his angels, Kim!

lizbud
11-29-2006, 01:06 PM
Oh Kim, you must be so worried about Chipper. :( I would too. I am
however, very glad he is in the care of caring, knowledgeable people.
Thanks for keeping us all updated on him. Prayers & positive vibes going
out to you both. ((Hugs)) Liz, Smokey & Maggie.

Cinder & Smoke
11-29-2006, 01:18 PM
... found what may be a partial obstruction.

... of course if it is an obstruction, he'll need surgery.

A ONE TIME Obstruction and a quick surgical "fix" sounds good to me!
Let's pray for that!

I'm really glad you guys decided to "find out what's wrong" rather than "wait" till Thursday!!
Hopefully the "what's wrong" will be definitive and suggest a positive and permanent solution.

Give The Boy a gentle {{{Hug}}} when you get to see him.

/s/ Phred

NoahsMommy
11-29-2006, 01:23 PM
(blue for Sweet Chipper)
Kimmy & Andy,

I'll keep Chipper in my prayers. I just said a prayer that the white coats find whatever is ailing poor Chipper and fix him ASAP. I thanked God that He put you both and Chipper together so that he could be helped and then loved forever and ever with you, Kia and the others. :)

The 'good' news about an obstruction is that it *usually* is an isolated incident. After he's treated, he'll be OK. If its IBD, or Ulcerative Colitis, it can be treated with special food and some medications to help with his symptoms.

Either way, whatever they do and/or find, Chipper will remain in my prayers for a quick recovery and the happy home he so deserves with you both.

Hugs & Love,
Kelly and Kitties :D

pitc9
11-29-2006, 01:38 PM
Oh please please please let this work!!!
Please!!!!

luvofallhorses
11-29-2006, 03:43 PM
I hope it's just an obstruction and nothing too serious. :) something that they can fix.

RedHedd
11-29-2006, 04:19 PM
Oh Kimmy! My thoughts and prayers are with you and yours that it's a simple fix. Poor Chipper!

Cinder & Smoke
11-29-2006, 04:19 PM
They are giving him barium right now to verify if it's an obstruction or not.

He'll call me with the results ...

We're worried :( ... it's been a while since you uppy-dated.

And Good Word from the U-M Vets??

We're still PRAYIN as hard as we can for The Kid ...

Feel Better SOON, Chip!!

/s/ Phred & the FUrKids

Muddy4paws
11-29-2006, 04:49 PM
Poor boy! I hope everything is easy to sort out for his sake, I got my fingers crossed for good news

gemini9961
11-29-2006, 04:58 PM
Kimmy I am just seeing this now. Prayers for Chipper. Poor boy must be scared, but very lucky to have found you in time. Hope all turns out well.

mugsy
11-29-2006, 05:33 PM
Kimmy and Andy,

We are keeping Chipper close to our thoughts. Please let us know soon how he is doing. I know how you feel...we've been there too many times ourselves. It's just NO fun. Our emergency vet here has saved a few of our dogs!

zippy-kat
11-29-2006, 05:40 PM
Mega prayers being sent to Mr. Chipper (and his mom 'n pop, too)!

Here's hoping some good news is right around the corner.

captain
11-29-2006, 05:43 PM
Kimmy, Andy and Kia,

{{{{hugs}}} to you while you wait to hear about darlin Chipper.

dukedogsmom
11-29-2006, 06:43 PM
I hope so much he will pull through this. He's too sweet a dog not to get a good life with all of you. Please get well, Chipper.

tatsxxx11
11-29-2006, 06:51 PM
Just wanted you to know that I'm thinking of you Kimmy, of your precious Chipper, the entire family. Sending you lots of love and hugs as you, we all wait for some news. Please, please get well, Chipper.
Sandra

ramanth
11-29-2006, 07:53 PM
Hey guys. We had a 5 p.m. appointment and then stopped by to see Chipper on the way home.

The barium showed NO obstruction.

Sooooo...back to the drawing board so to speak. While the blood test came out negative for Addison's there is however a rare form of it that while Addison's decreases both cortizol and aldosterone, the rarer form will only cause one or the other to decrease.

So when we stopped by to visit he was in the process of having blood drawn several times. Basically they draw blood, test it, wait for a set time period, draw more blood, test it.

So, for example, if the cortizol level is flat line through all of the blood tests, then it's very likely to be this form of Addison's. If the cortizol level rises and falls, then it's not Addison's.

They seem very determined to get to the bottom of this mystery illness.

Chipper perked up when he saw us, but his ears soon dropped when I think he realized he wasn't going home just yet. Poor guy.

Cincy'sMom
11-29-2006, 08:04 PM
Still keeping poor Chipper in our thoughts and hoping he is home soon.

Queen of Poop
11-29-2006, 09:18 PM
Awww Chipper. I know its hard to be away from your new parents. I'm sorry you have to be going thru all of this. But your new mommie and daddy love you and want you to get better. I pray that those wonderful doctors find out what the trouble is very soon. Hugs for a doggie.

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
11-29-2006, 09:36 PM
Thanks for the PM, Kimmy. I haven't been on PT lately so I didn't even know Kia got a brother. ;) I'm SO sorry to hear how sick he is though. :( I know he's in the best hands ever, but is there any chance it's allergies? CJ had diarrhea when we first got him too - nothing as serious as Chipper, but still diarrhea - and after months and months we finally tested him for allergies and sure enough, he's allergic to lots of normal cat food ingredients. Like I say, I know he's in good hands, but what's one more test?

Good thoughts and prayers on there way!

kohala
11-29-2006, 09:46 PM
As sad as I feel for the poor little guy, I also feel for you two, as I know the stress of waiting and wondering and worrying can get to you. Take care of each other, and I will definitely add a specific request in Chipper's behalf to my prayers.
I hate seeing the innocent suffer - young or old, human or canine or feline or equine, any living being. I know there's a reason for the Tests we go through, but they challenge my faith constantly.
Hugs to you, Andy and the kids at home, Kim - and prayer hugs are being sent to Chipper.
I'll be checking for updates -

luvofallhorses
11-29-2006, 10:33 PM
omg! I am so sorry, Kimmy that you guys don't know what it is! :( it could be anything. what is Addison's disease? :o more good thoughts and prayers going out for Chipper, you, and your family! I hope the vets can rule out what is causing his pain. :( poor guy. :( hugs to you all including Chipper!

areias
11-29-2006, 10:41 PM
:( Still keeping Chipper in my thoughts. It's so hard to see your babies sick, and even harder when you have no clue what they are sick from. :( Is he getting any better on the fluids?

molucass
11-29-2006, 11:32 PM
I'm sorry I haven't replied before now, but I am keeping poor Chipper in my thoughts.
Hopefully it's nothing too serious and he will start feeling better soon.

krazyaboutkatz
11-29-2006, 11:59 PM
Kimmy, I'm sorry that you still don't know what's causing Chipper's illness.:( Lots of prayers and positive thoughts are still being sent his way. Please take care. ((((HUGS))))

Cinder & Smoke
11-30-2006, 12:59 AM
They seem very determined to get to the bottom of this mystery illness.

Chipper perked up when he saw us,
but his ears soon dropped when I think he realized he wasn't going home just yet.
Poor guy.

:eek:

Hard to believe he's got the Minds & Diagnostic Skills of U-M Vet School "stumped"!

Sure hope they get the solution discovered soon so Chip can perk up his ears
and GO HOME!

Hang on Kiddo - you've got the Whole World Praying for you!

;)

pitc9
11-30-2006, 07:49 AM
Oh Poop!! :(

Still praying for you guys and think about you!

ramanth
11-30-2006, 07:56 AM
Dr. Beal called at 6 a.m. and apologized for waking me (it was okay actually because I slept through the alarm...had he not called I'd likely be late for work :o ).

Anyway he said he just had to call because he was so excited. Chipper is doing MUCH better!! :cool: They gave him some medication last night and he perked right up! He showed interest in food (nearly stole one poor nurses lunch :rolleyes: :o :D ), and when given a little dog food, he wolfed it right down and kept it down. No vomiting at all. Had some diarreha but no blood in it.

They are still waiting for the results of the blood tests they were doing yesterday and he'll be seeing an internist. I should be hearing from the internist by 11 a.m. Because of his reaction to the medication they feel without a doubt that it's Addison's, but the internist will know for sure.

Based on the internists opinion, Chipper will either come home today or will stay one more night and come home Friday.

Andy and I swung by the clinic on the way to work this morning and Chipper pranced into the waiting room, tail high, butt wiggling, looking so very much alert. He leapt into my lap and covered me with kisses. It was so great having the old Chipper back. :D

mugsy
11-30-2006, 08:01 AM
WOOHOO!!!!! That's awesome! I will keep checking for updates! Keep in mind I have a test to type and a stack of papers to grade because we have to send out grades tomorrow, but, where am I??? Doing much more important work...checking on Chipper!!

I am so glad to hear that he is doing better...will the meds be a lifetime thing then?

ramanth
11-30-2006, 08:07 AM
If it is Addison's, then yes, he'll be on medication for the rest of his life. However, the treatment is once a month and he can live a long full life. :D

cyber-sibes
11-30-2006, 08:27 AM
Woooooo woooooo! Woooooo! (Group howl)
What a relief to read your post this morning! You know his improvement's got to be impressive for the vet to call at 6 am! (((hugs))) Prayers & healing vibes going out that Chipper is on the road to recovery, good health & many years with his new family!

AdoreMyDogs
11-30-2006, 08:37 AM
Kim I'm so sorry I wasn't able to reply until now. I don't get on very often anymore. I am so glad to read the new updates and hope they only continue to get better. Poor guy :( I'm so glad you took him, because if you haden't, who knows what would have happened to him. I bet the rescue orginization or foster home would never have invested this much time or money into him.

Keep up the good work, Mr. Chipper! You have found yourself in the very best of homes and we all want you to stick around for a long, long time!

mugsy
11-30-2006, 08:44 AM
Hey Kimmy (and anyone else in the area that might be interested),

If you guys can swing it, you should come down on Saturday the 9th with the pups and get their picture taken with Para Noel (sp) (Father Christmas) at the shop. His costume is amazing and we will have the fireplace lit and he will be in a comfy rocker and there are stockings hung on the mantle with the Christmas tree right there...for $9 you get a Polaroid in a cute paper frame or for $13 you get the Polaroid, a digital mailed to you, and a 15 sec video... We would love to see you guys and have a chance to see Kia again and meet Chipper man! The pictures are from noon to 3.

anna_66
11-30-2006, 08:50 AM
Now this is the kind of update I was hoping for:D Glad to hear he's feeling a little more "chipper" today...hope it continues!
More prayers that all goes well and they've found out exactly what's wrong and that it can be managed easily.

This update makes my gloomy day seem brighterhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/anna66/Smileys/jossun.gif.

pitc9
11-30-2006, 08:56 AM
Yippppeeee!!!
Still praying for his continuing recovery

Queen of Poop
11-30-2006, 09:01 AM
Ya hoo!!!!!!!!!!!

Good news first thing in the morning. Atta boy Chipper!!

Ginger's Mom
11-30-2006, 09:08 AM
Yay! After wiping away the leaky happy eyes, I did a quick happy dance around the office. I am so happy to hear that they seem to have found the problem and a cure. I will continue to keep you and Chipper in my prayers. Okay I am off to do a quick google search on Addison's disease now. I don't know anything about it, BUT, I am thinking that if you and Andy hadn't adopted this little guy when you did, he wouldn't be around today. Hugs to you.

Vela
11-30-2006, 09:11 AM
YAY I'm so glad to hear he's getting better! PT prayers at work again. I hope he gets to come home today.

tatsxxx11
11-30-2006, 09:16 AM
Andy and I swung by the clinic on the way to work this morning and Chipper pranced into the waiting room, tail high, butt wiggling, looking so very much alert. He leapt into my lap and covered me with kisses. It was so great having the old Chipper back. http://petoftheday.com/i/our_smilies/biggrin.gif

Wooo hooo!!! Group hug, group holler, oh happy, happy, happy dance and tears!!!:D
I'm so happy to hear the good news, Kimmy! Oh, happy, happy, happy!!!:D
Can't wait to hear your boy's back home with his wonderful Mom and Dad and sibs!
GET WELL SOON, CHIPPER!:)

ramanth
11-30-2006, 09:25 AM
A very sweet woman named Michelle just called. She is a internal medicine student there at MSU and wanted to go over some of the procedures they will be doing today. There was a lot to cover but I think I can remember it all from my hastily jotted notes. :o

They said they got a sample from his latest diarreha and they are going to check it for parasites. A flotation to look for eggs and a smear to look for an overgrowth of bacteria.

If he does have parasites they do not plan to just sign it off as the problem as parasites could be secondary to something bigger.

He has been given the wormer panacure in the meantime though.

Although Dr. Beal feels strongly it's Addison's, the internist doctors, Dr. Byle and Dr. Ruckland want to cover all the bases and not put their eggs in one basket so to speak.

Chipper will undergo an abdominal ultrasound today where they will look for signs of Gastro-Intestinal issues such as IBD, pancreatis, and colitis. If they see anything suspicious during the procedure they will needle the cells for a biopsy.

Cancer is not totally out of the question but they don't feel it's the underlining issue. More of a better safe than sorry procedure. :)

In the meantime, they'll await the blood work back for signs of Addison. As it stands, his steriod levels are low (which are controlled by the adrenal glands) but his electrolytes are fine and with Addison's they are typically imbalanced. His protein levels are also low but that could be due to a gastro intestinal issue and not necessarily Addison's.

One of the internists will still be in touch later this afternoon to answer any questions and explain the procedures more or how they are doing.

~~~
Molly, I'd love to come visit. I don't think we have anything going on that day but of course we'll have to see how Chipper is doing. :)

mugsy
11-30-2006, 09:31 AM
That little man has been through hell! Lucky for him Andy fell in love eh? I can't wait to meet him!! I'm excited now! I sure hope the tests show something conclusive so that you don't have to be guessing anymore.

.sarah
11-30-2006, 10:18 AM
Wow, I'm so sorry to hear that Chipper has not be feeling good, but I'm glad he's doing better today. I hope he continues to improve :)

RedHedd
11-30-2006, 10:19 AM
Oh Kimmy! Poor Chipper sure has been through a lot but I'm glad to hear he's feeling more .... chipper :p I do hope they get to the bottom of this and that Chipper has many more years of good health with you and yours.

krazyaboutkatz
11-30-2006, 10:49 AM
I'm so glad to hear that Chipper is doing much better.:D Now hopefully the doctors will be able to find out what's been causing his illness. I'm still keeping him in my thoughts and prayers.

Jakesmom
11-30-2006, 10:56 AM
Just an FYI, your vet probably knows this info. If you are sick and have an inadequate adrenal response (ie, your cortisol is not as elevated as it should be by the stress of your illness), you will be even sicker. You will improve with steroids, like Chipper did, but it won't cure or treat the underlying illness. It would be unusual for Addison's to not have abnormal electrolytes (and its pretty amazing if his electrolytes were normal with all the vomiting and diarrhea, but they produce opposite electrolyte changes so sometimes they sort of cancel each other out when you check labs).

So, good for the vets that they are continuing to look and not be satisfied with his initial response to the steroids. Hopefully Addison's is it, as it would be easy to treat.

Jakesmom

shais_mom
11-30-2006, 11:18 AM
I slept thru the morning and am so glad to come here and see that at least you are 'getting' somewhere!
still sending prayers and lots of love!

dragondawg
11-30-2006, 12:39 PM
Just an FYI, your vet probably knows this info. If you are sick and have an inadequate adrenal response (ie, your cortisol is not as elevated as it should be by the stress of your illness), you will be even sicker. You will improve with steroids, like Chipper did, but it won't cure or treat the underlying illness. It would be unusual for Addison's to not have abnormal electrolytes (and its pretty amazing if his electrolytes were normal with all the vomiting and diarrhea, but they produce opposite electrolyte changes so sometimes they sort of cancel each other out when you check labs).

So, good for the vets that they are continuing to look and not be satisfied with his initial response to the steroids. Hopefully Addison's is it, as it would be easy to treat.

Jakesmom

Disturbances in electrolytes is usually only found in primary Addison's disease or where the adrenal glands themselves are incapable of producing insufficient cortisol. When in the rare event sodium/potassium levels become imbalanced in secondary Addison's disease especially high potassium it can lead to rapid heart failure.

Vomiting, lethargy are common symptoms. Signs of Kidney failure can occur, and that sometimes misleads the Vet. An ACTH challenge test is the only true test that will confirm Addison's disease, and it's a given the Vet school will run that test to measure the adrenal response.

The most common cause of secondary Addison's is prolonged administration of a cortisteroid such as Prednisone and stopping suddenly. If external drugs are not involved another common cause is a Pituitary tumor. It suppresses the Adrenal glands production of cortisol. Usually the tumor is very slow growing and not addressed. Other secondary hormonal causes which suppress adrenal function can cause secondary Addison's disease.

Treatment consists of the administration of oral fludrocortisone acetate (Flurinaf) for the rest of the dog's life. It will be important to minimize stressful conditions e.g. avoid hot/cold environmental temperatures. Likewise a controlled diet will be important in the future.

It sounds like the Vet school is doing a very complete, and excellent job with the diagnostics.

ramanth
11-30-2006, 12:47 PM
Deep breaths... deeeep calming breaths.

Okay.... bad news and good news.

Dr. Byle called to introduce himself as the doctor that took Chipper's case. The bad news is that because Chipper was given food, they can't run the tests today that they want too, since Chipper needs to fast for 8 hours. Also since he was given medicine, it might skew some of the results.

They also want to wait for the results on the ACTH looking for Addison's. And Dr. Byle was told those results won't come in until tonight.

They can however do the ultrasound which he will under go in a couple of hours.

So this is how it will go.

Tonight they will draw blood after his 8 hour fast. If the ACTH comes back positive they will not do any other tests and will start treatment accordingly.

If the ACTH comes back negative, they would like to take the blood taken after his fast and do a:

1. Bio Acid test - checks the liver
2. Cobalamin/Folate, PLI, and TLI - test is sent to Texas; will be a week before results are in
3. and a GI endoscope - 3-4 days for results

Good news really is that they are being thourough and I really want Chipper to get better. But it comes with a price.

Right now the bill is at $1,100. With the ultrasound, it goes to $1,500. If he has Addison's, that's the total cost. Dr. Byle says it's possible but unlikely though.

If those other tests have to be run, the cost plus his additional stay at the clinic will run about $3,000.

:eek:

Time to rob a bank. Deeeep breaths.

.sarah
11-30-2006, 01:14 PM
Wow, I'm so sorry! I know how you feel though, Buck's emergency surgery last month was over $1,000... Money that I definetly do not having lying around!

Barbara
11-30-2006, 02:16 PM
Kimmy,
I read this just now. I am so sorry for all that trouble for poor Chipper and for you. Hope everything goes ok with the tests.

ramanth
11-30-2006, 02:52 PM
Just thought I'd share the past couple of days in pictures....

Thanksgiving Day:

Outside enjoying the warm weather and sun
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1315.jpg

Playing with Sasha, Seamus, and Kia
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1316.jpg

My sister giving him a big hug and kiss
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1330.jpg

Saturday, Nov. 25th:

Asked them to get in their crates. Kia got into Chipper's and Chipper followed her. You can see he is a very different dog than on Thanksgiving..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1352.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1355.jpg

Sunday, Nov. 26th:

Started to perk up. Went outside with Kia in the morning to people watch.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1465.jpg

Then decided that my sleeping bag made a pretty nice bed.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1472.jpg

Monday, Nov. 27th:

Crashed out on the couch with Kia
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1477.jpg

Then sharing it with Zam
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1479.jpg

Tuesday evening, Nov. 28th:

Trying to give him some Pedialyte.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1482.jpg

ramanth
11-30-2006, 02:53 PM
Wednesday morning at MSU:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1483.jpg

Wednesday evening:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1486.jpg

Thursday morning:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1491.jpg

Telling him goodbye before leaving for work
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/Fur%20Kids/IMG_1493.jpg

Logan
11-30-2006, 03:14 PM
Oh Kimmy, he is so thin. :( I know you are worried sick about his health, and also about these horrible expenses. I can't do much, but I would like to contribute something, small as it is, to his care. I know that is NOT what you're asking for, but if you would allow us to help, in small amounts, perhaps it will help you and Andy to do what you need to for Chipper, and get him well, so you can move forward with him and in your new life together and get that house and yard you want so badly sooner than later!

Would you get the necessary information together and send me a PM as to where I can send a small contribution for his expenses, whether it be to you or the veterinarian. I trust you, so I'm not worried about where I send it. I think after all these years, we know you well enough to know that you would be doing the exact same thing for us.

In the meantime, many, many prayers are being sent on Chipper's behalf and for you and Andy and Kia, Zam and Logan (special, special to me). I know the other 3 have had to take a backseat to Chipper right now, but they will be a lifesaver for you, while you wait on these test results.

Much love to you and Andy and the furry ones.

Logan

Vela
11-30-2006, 03:26 PM
Good idea Logan, I'm up for that. Let me know where I can send something to help. I think PT should adopt him along with you. I already check back here 50 times a day to see if there is any news. Thanks for keeping us so up to date. Give him a hug for me!

wolf_Q
11-30-2006, 03:35 PM
Kimmy, thanks for sharing the photos of him. He is such a beautiful boy, he is so lucky to have you. I hope everything will be ok with him.

I'd also like to send a contribution for Chipper's vet care.

ramanth
11-30-2006, 03:36 PM
I can't see through my tears. You guys helped me when Kia was down and now you guys reach out with your hearts again. I love you all so much. I want to hug each and every one of you and I know Chipper sends so many kisses.

Thank you!!!!!!!

And I just thought of something....isn't there a website that also can help?

Logan
11-30-2006, 03:47 PM
It's www.imom.org, Kimmy. And that is a great idea. Couldn't hurt to try it.

Love you. Hang in there!

Logan

Cinder & Smoke
11-30-2006, 04:05 PM
;)

A big "DITTO" to Logan's thoughts ...
We need to Fill a Stocking for Chipper ... Kimmy can either pay Vet Bills or
buy Dawggie Gifts with the contributions - your choice!

If you'd like to make a Direct Contribution to Chipper's Account at the Hospital:

1) Send a Check made out to "A198 Vetrinary Teaching Hospital"
and mail to:
A198 Veterinary Teaching Hospital
College of Veterinary Medicine
East Lansing, MI 48824

Include a NOTE and Memo the check:
Apply to the account of "Chipper" and Kimberly Miller

2) Call 'em up and supply a Credit Card Number for a quick donation ...
Phone from 9:00 am to 5:00 pm to the business Office (517) 353-4957
and again Specify it's for the account of "Chipper" and Kimberly Miller.

I gave the Sweet Young Thing a CC Donation - and warned her
that there would be other gifts sent for "Chipper".

Hoping for a Full Recovery!!

/s/ Phred & the FurKids

Logan
11-30-2006, 04:44 PM
You're a good, generous man, John, and I'm not sure why some lucky woman has not snatched you up by now!!! :) I know this is off topic, but I had to say it!!!! :D I think you need to be glad I found my precious Scott when I did, otherwise I might have been after you!!! :p

Freckles
11-30-2006, 04:45 PM
;)
A198 Veterinary Teaching Hospital
College of Veterinary Medicine
Lansing, MI 48824
/s/ Phred & the FurKids
Is there a street address?

Cinder & Smoke
11-30-2006, 05:38 PM
Is there a street address?

A198 Veterinary Teaching Hospital
College of Veterinary Medicine
East Lansing, MI 48824


No, there isn't a "street address" needed - believe it or not. :p

The ZIP Code itself is for the Michigan State University ---

and the University Mail Folks use "College of Vet Medicine" as their
"street address".

The Vet College prolly gets it's mail in a big SACK or Box ...
then the office opens all the "General Mail" and distributs all the more completely addressed
mail to the various Departments in Vet Medicine.

As soon as the spot a *CHECK* they'll know who to give it to!
;)

PS: NO PayPal - I asked her!

dukedogsmom
11-30-2006, 05:47 PM
I would like to help, as well. It won't be much but I'd like to send something. I hope he will get well.

Vela
11-30-2006, 06:05 PM
It only takes a little to do a lot IMO. If many people contribute a little, it goes a long way and I for one want to see this guy come home! He's stolen my heart!

Cincy'sMom
11-30-2006, 06:15 PM
Hopefully at the end of all this, there will be answers for Chipper and he will be happy healthy Pup! I know this is hard on you guys, but he found a family that that is going to make sure he is taken care of right!!! (Even if it takes a little help from the extended family ;) )

Rachel
11-30-2006, 06:47 PM
Thanks to my friend, Logan, I was alerted to this thread. When I saw the 12 pages, I knew it had to be very serious situation. My heart sank and my stomach has been in a knot as I've read them all.

Kim, I can't imagine the stress you are under right now. Our dogs have had their emergencies and my husband and I were just discussing how fortunate we have been that their situations were quickly resolved, despite seeming quite serious at the time.

Kim, Chipper is a doll. It seems he is fitting into your family so well and is so appreciative of his new home (as I knew he would be) and now to have him so sick has to be devasting. All the medical information is more than my brain can absorb, but it is obvious he is getting very good care which is worth the cost. It is wonderful that you have access to such a good facility.

cloverfdx
11-30-2006, 07:39 PM
Sending lots of love and good vibes to you all still {{Hugs}}. I too check about 50 times a day for updates always hoping for any news.

ramanth
11-30-2006, 07:43 PM
Wow everyone. I'm just speechless. What a wonderful extended family we have. *HUGS* I can't sing your praises enough.

To EVERYONE for their thoughts, prayers, support, and other means of assistance.

Well, unfortunately the ACTH came back saying it is not Addisons.

Andy and I sat with Chipper and discussed what we should do. Really our only options were to either take him home, hope he keeps eating without the steriod injections, agree to more tests done, or have him PTS.

Dr. Byle feels confident that we are dealing with a Gastro Intestinal issue (like IBD or pancreatitis), but only the endoscope will say for sure.

The ultrasound came back showing he had enlarged abdominal lymph nodes. They drew some cell samples which came back as saying that the lymph nodes themselves are within normal levels so something else is causing them to be enlarged.

Andy and I agreed to have a GI endoscope performed and blood sent to Texas for the Cobalamin/Folate, PLI, and TLI tests.

Chipper's endoscope procedure will be tomorrow afternoon, estimated to be done around 2 p.m. Depending on his recovery, he may be able to come home with us while we wait for the results of both the endoscope and blood tests.

If so, that will help decrease the cost because he won't be there in ICU overnight.

As it stands, the total estimated cost is $2,700.

The endoscope results will be back in 3-4 days.
The blood tests from Texas will take about a week.

So prayers needed that the endoscope shows the problem and that it goes smoothly.

Vela
11-30-2006, 07:51 PM
Ugh I wanted it to beo something that could be fixed right now! I hope it reveals the answer and there is some good news tomorrow. I'll be saying prayers for you all and biting my nails !

Uabassoon
11-30-2006, 08:06 PM
Kimmy I'm sending you lots of hugs. I know it's going to be so hard waiting for all those results, I know I always want to know everything right away and 3-4 days can seem like an eternity. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

kohala
11-30-2006, 08:48 PM
I was so glad to see the pictures you posted, Kim. Poor baby, I see what you mean - his little sides were soooooo thin. And that face - oh, Lord, what a face!!! Want to just reach into the screen here and hug and cuddle him. I'm glad he's coming home - that will be great therapy for his spirit, to be with his family. I will also be checking in at home - can't access at work, which is OK.
Hold each other tight, every minute of our lives counts!

Ko

cyber-sibes
11-30-2006, 10:08 PM
Aw, those pictures are wonderful, just look at that happy face in the one of your sister holding him! The change is shocking, poor baby. :( And thanks Phred, for the info. I'd like to help with a donations for Chipper's stocking too. ;) Will keep Chipper in my prayers. Hope they figure it out soon. I'm glad he'll get to come home & be loved, he must miss you, Andy, Kia, and the rest.

ramanth
12-01-2006, 08:12 AM
Michelle just called to update.

Chipper did real well overnight. He wants to eat but of course can't because of the fasting. No bowel movement (they emptied him with enemas), no vomit, no temperature. She said he appeared happy and frisky and drags her when he gets his walks. (I told her she'll need ice skates today!)

Originally his endoscopy was scheduled for Noon but they are hoping to get him in at 10:30 a.m.

If he bounces back from the procedure, they'll send him home today. If not, he'll spend another night and come home tomorrow.

So keep those fingers and paws crossed!!

cyber-sibes
12-01-2006, 08:37 AM
Paws crossed! :D

Cinder & Smoke
12-01-2006, 09:04 AM
;)

If you'd like to make a Direct Contribution to Chipper's Account at the Hospital:

1) Send a Check made out to "A198 Vetrinary Teaching Hospital"
and mail to:
A198 Veterinary Teaching Hospital
College of Veterinary Medicine
East Lansing, MI 48824

Include a NOTE and Memo the check:
Apply to the account of "Chipper" and Kimberly Miller

2) -OR- Call 'em up and supply a Credit Card Number for a quick donation ...
Phone from 9:00 am to 5:00 pm to the business Office (517) 353-4957
and again Specify it's for the account of "Chipper" and Kimberly Miller.

----------------------------------
OTHER DONATION METHODS:

3) PayPal can be sent to Kimmy's Work E-mail ... tell PayPal you want to send money to:

millerki @ cooley.edu
Please put "Chipper Donation" in the subject line.

NOTE: Remove the Extra SPACES in the address - put there to foil the Bad Guys.

4) Or you can snail-MAIL a check or money order directly to Kim & Andy
at their Apartment ...
PM Kimmy to learn the Apartment's Address.

We're praying the "Scope Test" scheduled for this morning tells us something ...
and there's Lab Work being sent out that will take DAYS to be processed ...
Pray for "Informative" results from those, too.

Keep *SMILING*, Chipper - we're ALL pulling for you!!!

/s/ Phred

Logan
12-01-2006, 10:33 AM
We are definitely thinking of you all today, still, and praying for Chipper to make a complete recovery!!!!! :)

My little "Merry Christmas, Chipper, Kimmy and Andy" card went out today!!! :)

krazyaboutkatz
12-01-2006, 10:44 AM
Chipper continues to be in my thoughts and prayers. I sure hope that this next procedure will tell the vets what his problem is and that it's going to be an easy treatment. I also hope that he'll be able to go home today.

tatsxxx11
12-01-2006, 11:13 AM
Oh Kimmy, my eyes welled up when I clicked on Chipper's update thread and saw the pics. What a beautiful boy, what a precious face and oh, does he love his forever familyhttp://petoftheday.com/i/our_smilies/smile.gif My heart breaks to think of him so very ill but the reports are encouraging. Sounds strange to say but while I'm a bit "disappointed" to hear they ruled out Addisons, the good news is he's still spunky and wanting to eat! I hate to think of him having to go through more testing but paws crossed that they'll be able to come up with a definite dx today and start him on a course of treatment and HOME!http://petoftheday.com/i/our_smilies/smile.gif
And I too would love to help you and Andy out with Chipper's vet expenses; they are staggering and this is the time for friends to pull together! Thank you Logan, for posting your suggestion and to Phred too, for all of his help/posting the contact info! Logan is right, you're a "keeper!"http://petoftheday.com/i/our_smilies/wink.gif
Much love to you and the family, Kimmy. Keeping you all, especially your dear boy Chipper in my thoughts and prayers. Hoping for some encouraging updates later today!
GET WELL SOON CHIPPER!!!

ramanth
12-01-2006, 12:28 PM
Interesting news.

Dr. Byle just called and he said after much consideration he would like to hold off on doing the endoscopy because of how well Chipper has been doing today and because we haven't had Chipper for very long and his stay at the shelter was pretty recent.

His protein levels are on the way up and he's much more lively. They are starting to get the feeling they may of been dealing with a tricky virus.

He will still send the blood work to Texas to check for pancreatitis and plans to do a fecal culture to check for salmonella.

But for now, the plan is to increase Chipper's meal sizes and see if he can hold it down and keep him overnight for observation. They will then send him home tomorrow with antibiotics and a new diet. If we can keep him eating and hydrated, he won't need to go back in and we'll discuss the results of the lab work late next week.

Since we've been treating it so aggressively and haven't been given any real answers, he thinks a more conservative approach would be better than to put Chipper through another stressful and expensive procedure.


And this is really interesting because before Dr. Byle called, I got this email from Nancy, the Pet Psychic. I had emailed her telling her simply that Chipper was at MSU with a mystery illness:

hi kim,
i got your other email. poor poor guy. i checked in with him. i feel like i had the flu. i do not feel like i have a blockage anywhere. i feel like i have been put through the wringer. i am being shown the time i had a terrible stomach bug. the kind where you puke forever and cannot leave the bathroom. i feel like that is what he was going through. i do not think it is more than that. he feels drained right now. pretty weak and drained. like he has been through the wringer.

let me know how he is doing. i am not going to do his reading now as it would not be accurate as he is not feeling well. i also do not want to bother him right now.

let me know what happens. i would not worry...it really feels like a stomach flu to me or atleast that is what they are showing me. seemed to be nonstop coming out of him. poor guy. like i said, he feels drained and like he went through the wringer.
take care,
nancy


and at lunch Andy told me that earlier today he felt a strange calm come over him when he was thinking about Chipper.


Hmmmmm...

gemini9961
12-01-2006, 12:34 PM
That is very interesting Kimmy and I do hope that she is right and it was just a flu bug. Glad to hear he is feeling better and hopefully we will see some pics of his homecoming.

Take care Chipper. :)

cyber-sibes
12-01-2006, 12:40 PM
Interesting! Let's hope that's all it is. Poor guy, I hope he "keeps it down" today so he can go home tomorrow.

Daisy and Delilah
12-01-2006, 01:15 PM
My thoughts and prayers are still with all of you. Come on Chipper!! You can lick this thing buddy!! We know you can :)

Barbara
12-01-2006, 01:26 PM
I'm glad to hear that the boy is feeling better- it sounds as if you are in good hands with your vets.

dukedogsmom
12-01-2006, 01:46 PM
Get well soon, Chipper. We want to be seeing lots more of you here at PT.

Cinder & Smoke
12-01-2006, 01:51 PM
His protein levels are on the way up and he's much more lively.
They are starting to get the feeling they may of been dealing with a tricky virus.

The plan is to increase Chipper's meal sizes and see if he can hold it down
and keep him overnight for observation.
They will then send him home tomorrow with antibiotics and a new diet.

If we can keep him eating and hydrated, he won't need to go back in

OK - we'll buy "a Tricky Virus".

Let's HOPE that's the problem - and that it's GONE and never comes back!

Maybe Chip can do some Paw Springs and eat enough to convince the Doc to
send him home TONIGHT!

Hey Chip ~ Keep Feelin BETTER, Bub! :D

tatsxxx11
12-01-2006, 01:57 PM
Ahhh, sigh of relief!:) More paw and finger crossing in the hopes that Chipper's troubles were realted to just that, a "tricky virus!" Great vet, taking the cautious approach, to see if he doesn't improve yet more over night. Endoscopy while routine, is still stressful and invasive. And when I read what the pet psychic said, Andy's reaction today, I got goosebumps! Hopefully this is the first step toward a complete recovery!:)

GET WELL SOON, CHIPPER! WE LOVE YOU!:)

pitc9
12-01-2006, 01:59 PM
Sure sounds like she knows what she's talking about!
Hugs to you all!!

wolflady
12-01-2006, 02:01 PM
That's great news, Kimmy! :) Things are starting to look up, and hopefully Chipper will be home with you soon! What kind of diet are they going to put him on? Perhaps all of the excitement of a new home and everything Chipper went through before coming to you guys wore his immune system down and like your psychic said...he got a very bad flu. Poor thing!
Like tats said in her post, I got goosebumps when I read that message from your psychic and Andy's reaction.

**hugs**

Vela
12-01-2006, 02:05 PM
That's wonderful news, I also had a feeling of calm come over me when I was thinking about him and wondering how things would turn out. I didn't want to say that and sound like a kook, but that's why I said the other day I had the faith he would be okay. Can't wait until he gets home and we can get some happy boy pictures. But you can tell him for me, that if it's attention he's after, we will give him plenty without him getting sick to get it!!!

ramanth
12-01-2006, 02:12 PM
What kind of diet are they going to put him on?
They are feeding him a Eukanuba perscription type that's made for sensitve stomachs and GI tracts. I have a feeling they'll send it home with us.

But Dr. Byle said after a few weeks, we can ween him off it and feed him something similar.

RedHedd
12-01-2006, 02:57 PM
Kimmy, that's such good news. I hope Chipper will be home with you and healing very soon!

K9karen
12-01-2006, 07:52 PM
That does sound like good news! Fingers, toes and paws crossed that Chipper is his chipper self again soon!

You just clinched it..I'm calling Nancy

Cinder & Smoke
12-01-2006, 09:19 PM
Bumpity-Bump! :p

Did Chipper get a Parental Visit tonight? ...

We'd hoped he got *sprung* for good behavior ... but just Feelin Better will do for now.

Too bad they don't have internet PawBoards in each patient's "room".

Check in when you can.

/s/ :confused: Phred

ramanth
12-01-2006, 09:36 PM
I'm uploading video. ;) :D

He's still at the hospital but we're planning on bringing him home tomorrow morning. :)

ramanth
12-01-2006, 09:43 PM
Well, I guess while I'm waiting for the video to load, I'll share the photos from tonight. He looks absolutely wonderful! They've been feeding him every 4 hours and he eats each meal with gusto and keeps it down. No bowel movements but the vets said the enemas were real rough so he's got a bit of a sore bum. We got to be there for one of the feedings and I thought he was going to take poor Michelle out to get to that bowl! *laughs*

Hi Pet Talk!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1495.jpg

I love mom's lap
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1502.jpg

Oh yeah... that's the spot
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1505.jpg

Hey dad! Did you say they're bringing me more food?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1508.jpg

MmmmmMmmmm good!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1510.jpg

What do you mean there is no more?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1514.jpg

I like your hugs mom
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1522.jpg

Can I go home now?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1526.jpg

I'm ready!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1527.jpg

Husky_mom
12-01-2006, 09:51 PM
aww man!!...........how cute he truly seems to be saying why canīt i go now??...........good heīs getting a bit better...........hope he can go home soon for a steady recovery and a life full of love

Cinder & Smoke
12-01-2006, 09:51 PM
:D

So THAT's where you guys have been! ;)

WOW!
Does lil Chipper look GOOD!!

Hope this is his LAST night in the Hospital ...
Prayers being said that he's cleared to go HOME in the morning.

WAY to GO, Chipper!! :cool:

:D

ramanth
12-01-2006, 09:59 PM
Here's video number one:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/th_MVI_1499.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/?action=view&current=MVI_1499.flv)

cyber-sibes
12-01-2006, 10:09 PM
:D :D :D
What a good kisser Chipper is!
Poor boy, he looks so thin, but he sure is happy to see you & Andy. Hope all goes well tonight so he can GO HOME soon!

ramanth
12-01-2006, 10:19 PM
He sure is! :D

Here's video number 2:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/th_MVI_1512.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/?action=view&current=MVI_1512.flv)

Cinder & Smoke
12-01-2006, 11:05 PM
:D

Now THAT's a pretty HAPPIE DAWG!!

And he sure seems "Chipper" :)

He'd make a good Dawg Food Model - talk about an "Eager Eater"!

Seems like he's ready, willing, and quite ABLE to go HOME.

One more Night in the Hoppsbittle and then you're OUTTA There!

Keep Feelin GOOD, Chipper!!

:D

krazyaboutkatz
12-01-2006, 11:15 PM
I'm so glad to hear this wonderful update.:) I sure hope that Chipper just had a flu bug and that this won't happen again. It was so great to see his pictures and videos showing how perky he has become.:) I'm so glad that he'll be able to come home tomorrow and I hope that he continues to do well.:)

shais_mom
12-01-2006, 11:24 PM
I definately think that Chipper found his heart and home with you guys!
fingers crossed and prayers sent for you guys this weekend!

Rachel
12-02-2006, 07:54 AM
Kimmy, those pictures of you and Chipper speak volumes. If only every shelter dog could find himself a Kimmy and Andy.

In the dictionary under *love* they should put this picture.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1522.jpg

AdoreMyDogs
12-02-2006, 09:10 AM
Kimmy, those pictures of you and Chipper speak volumes. If only every shelter dog could find himself a Kimmy and Andy.

In the dictionary under *love* they should put this picture.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1522.jpg


I couldn't agree more. So beautiful.

Cinder & Smoke
12-02-2006, 09:58 AM
... we're planning on bringing him home tomorrow (Saturday) morning. :)

<drums finners on the desk>
:rolleyes:

OK - it's now LATE Saturday Morning ... WHERE's our Chipper??

Did Kia ride along for the pick-up?
(Wonder if Kia would *recognize* the MSU Hospital?)

WELCOME HOME, Chip!!
:D

ramanth
12-02-2006, 11:11 AM
CHIPPER IS HOME!!

He was released at 10 this morning. When they brought him into the room, he jumped into my lap and peed all over my leg. :eek: :p Can you tell he's excited? Or perhaps he's marking me. ;)

He's on a few different meds. A few more doses of Panacur in case of parasites, some Baytril and Clavamox.

We made a few stops on the way home.. got him a new toy and visited the staff at Williamston vet office. He was once again his typical social butterfly self.

He's peeing a lot from being on the IV's so this message will be quick as both Chip and Kia are doing the gotta go potty dance.

I've taken pics and vids but can't get them on the computer till Andy gets home.

They've been playing and have had a few bland biscuit treats. We're off for a walk now and I'll keep in touch on how he's doing.

RedHedd
12-02-2006, 11:12 AM
Oh Kimmy! He looks SO much better! I do hope he comes home today. He looks like a very happy dawg! :D

Cincy'sMom
12-02-2006, 11:20 AM
Welcome Home Chipper!!!

Cinder & Smoke
12-02-2006, 11:24 AM
When they brought him into the room, he jumped into my lap and
peed all over my leg. :eek: :p

Can you tell he's excited?
Or perhaps he's marking me. ;)

OH, Good GRIEF, Chip! :eek: :p

THAT wasn't a very endearing greeting! :rolleyes:
Sure is a good thing that she *LIKES* you!

Let's try to be CAREFUL at home - please TELL 'em when you need to *pee*!

**WELCOME HOME**, Chipper!!

:D

Husky_mom
12-02-2006, 11:31 AM
great news!!!.........hope he gets fully well soon so ha can gain the weight he lost.........he sound such a happy boy..............LOL @ mr. pee-your-leg..........haha............but i bet you liked it :p

thank God it was nothing worse.....

we stillīll be needing pics of him and Kia you know...........

how about a happy at home ones............when youīve got time of course

ramanth
12-02-2006, 12:41 PM
The walk went very well. Nothing like being dragged down the road by two dogs. :D

He finally pooped. It was soft but well formed. He greeted everyone we met and pounced on leaves that would blow by. They are now taking a nap, though I'm sure it'll be short lived.

cyber-sibes
12-02-2006, 01:09 PM
Welcome home Chipper!!!
(((hugs)))big boy! :D

gemini9961
12-02-2006, 01:34 PM
Welcome home Chipper! :D

lizbud
12-02-2006, 02:10 PM
There's no place like home, right Chipper. :) So glad to hear how much
progress was made for your boy.Hope you all can now settle in just being
a happy family. Welcome home Chipper. :)

dukedogsmom
12-02-2006, 02:48 PM
WELCOME HOME, CHIPPER! So glad to hear that you're home and doing well.

tatsxxx11
12-02-2006, 03:20 PM
YAY!!! Welcome home Chipper!!!:D What great, great news!!! Chow down, snuggle up with your Mom and Dad and Kia and have a happy weekend, sweetheart! Hope to see those pounds packing on, very soon!:)
Hugs and kisses to you, Chipper!:D

4 Dog Mother
12-02-2006, 03:42 PM
Sorry for not having posted sooner. I have been following the thread and praying for you both and Chipper. Having had Snoopy in the "hospital" so short a time ago I know how worrisome it is when they aren't real sure what is wrong. Looks like Chipper did much better than Snoops with the IV. Snoopy would have never left that IV connection remain as it was in your picture. I cannot tell you how many times they had to poke old Snoops because he wouldn't leave things be.

I am so glad Chipper is getting better and home. I will keep praying for you all.

mugsy
12-02-2006, 03:51 PM
OUTSTANDING!!!! WELCOME HOME CHIPPER!!!

I am so glad to hear that Chipper is being "chipper!" I hope he feels better enough next week to come and visit and get his picture taken with Para Noel (Father Christmas)!!! He and Kia will look outstanding against the back drop!

krazyaboutkatz
12-02-2006, 04:04 PM
WELCOME HOME CHIPPER!!! I'm so glad to hear that he's finally home and I hope that everything will continue to go well for him.:)

Rachel
12-02-2006, 04:11 PM
Oh Happy Day! Now you take it a bit easy Chipster boy. Don't be trying to make up for lost time by being wild and crazy and wearing yourself out. Pace yourself, okay? Your new-found PT people have been worried about you to say nothing of what Mom and Dad have been through. Take your medicine like a good boy and heed what Uncle Phred says- let's be careful where you lift the leg. Hint - if it's cold, it's probably okay to let 'er rip.

ramanth
12-02-2006, 05:05 PM
Dinner went perfectly. He gobbled it all down and took his meds with no fuss and like a champ. :D He even wanted my sushi. :p

He had a little dribble accident inside in his excitement of me arriving home from running errands, but he held most of it in and let loose outside. :D

They are now resting after a small bout of play. Chipper is probably still tired from his ordeal, but he does not look ill, simply restful. I'm actually glad he's not gungho, it gives me time to pick up this place. It's pretty messy in here. :o

He perks up when someone enters the building though. Something he didn't do when he was sick.

Daisy and Delilah
12-02-2006, 05:45 PM
WELCOME HOME HANDSOME MAN!!!
How great it is to hear that you're home and doing so well, Chipper!! Keep feeling good sweetheart!! :) :D :) Please have Mom give you some extra kisses from us!! :D :D :D

RedHedd
12-02-2006, 06:47 PM
Aww! Welcome home Chipper! Kimmy, we must have been posting at exactly the same time this morning. What a happy day!

Vela
12-02-2006, 08:06 PM
Yay Chipper!!! So glad to see you are back home where you belong.

So glad he's getting better Kimmy. Can't wait for more pics!

Vermontcat
12-02-2006, 08:15 PM
I haven't been on Pet Talk much lately, so I missed all that has been happening with Chipper.
I'm so sorry that he hasn't been feeling well, now I'm happy to see that he is feeling much better and that he is back home with you. :)

wolf_Q
12-02-2006, 11:49 PM
I'm so glad that Chipper is home now and doing better!! :D

cloverfdx
12-03-2006, 01:02 AM
Welcome home Chipper :D. Kimmy & Andy i am so glad to hear that your boy is feeling better, what wonderful news. More healing vibes on the way for a full and speedy recovery.

{{Hugs}}

ramanth
12-03-2006, 11:41 AM
Thanks everyone for the good thoughts. He's continuing to do great. No vomiting, eating everything in sight, begging for our food, and having good poops.

Chipper and Kia have been wrestling so much this morning that I'm surprised they are not pooped out yet.

Here are some photos and videos from yesterday when he came home from the hospital.

Playing with his new toy
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1536.jpg

Wanting a treat
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1540.jpg

Chowing down dinner
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1542.jpg

Sharing the couch with Zam
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1547.jpg

You can see his shaved belly....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1551.jpg

...and how Zam shifted and was kicking him in the face. He didn't seem to mind. :D
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/IMG_1550.jpg

Videos

Playing with his new toy
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/th_MVI_1535.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/?action=view&current=MVI_1535.flv)

Wrestling with Kia part 1
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/th_MVI_1555.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/?action=view&current=MVI_1555.flv)

Wrestling with Kia part 2
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/th_MVI_1556.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/ramanth/chipper/?action=view&current=MVI_1556.flv)

anna_66
12-03-2006, 11:45 AM
Oh Welcome Home Chipper!!!!!!!!!

It's so good to hear that he's home and doing well Kim, I couldn't be more excited:D

I especially love the pictures of him with his head in Zam's butt:p

Rachel
12-03-2006, 11:49 AM
Thank you for keeping us so up to date on how he is doing. We really appreciate that as I believe the others are like me and checking in frequently. Such encouraging news today. Anyone want to do a happy dance with me?

And Kimmy, your pictures are the best. Looks like Chip-man has adopted the Kia *look* of wide eyed innocence. And what a good boy he is with Zam. That is amazing for who knows what his history was. Hugs for the boy, please.

kohala
12-03-2006, 11:57 AM
There's nothing so relaxing and healing as cuddling with Kitty Butt, so looks like Zam knew his job and did it well! Nah, that's just a cats way of saying:
"WELCOME HOME, CHIPPER!!"

I am so glad to see he's doing so much better! What a sweetie, and I take it Kia is now monitoring his well being at home?
"cause, mom and dad, you guys need a break from worry and stress! I know the holidays are much brighter now for you!
Nothing like answered prayers, huh?

Hugs from me and Spencer

lizbud
12-03-2006, 12:16 PM
Just checking in to see how everything is going today. from the looks
of the videos, Chipper is feeling a lot better. :D It's so good that both
Kia & Chipper have each other for play buddies. :)

Cincy'sMom
12-03-2006, 12:56 PM
Glad to see Chipper doing so well! Sure doesn't look like he is having an issues adjusting to his new home!!! And everyone else seems to think he's okay too ;)

captain
12-03-2006, 05:48 PM
Welcome Home Chipper - I was so glad to read your positive update.

(((gentle hugs)))

krazyaboutkatz
12-03-2006, 06:18 PM
I'm glad to hear and see that Chipper is back to normal and able to enjoy his life again.:) I hope he continues to do well.:)

cyber-sibes
12-03-2006, 11:05 PM
Just lookin in to see how Chipper is today - Yippee, a good report!
Just curious - did the bet say anything about why his front leg turns out? I can really see it clearly on the photo of him sitting with Kia waiting for a treat.

ramanth
12-03-2006, 11:10 PM
Just curious - did the bet say anything about why his front leg turns out? I can really see it clearly on the photo of him sitting with Kia waiting for a treat.
They believe he was either born that way or it was caused by malnourishment. He doesn't appear in pain and doesn't sit like that all the time, but he looks goofy when he does. Andy calls it his "Bulldog Look". :D

Queen of Poop
12-04-2006, 08:07 AM
So glad that Chipper is home and doing so well. Hugs for you all.

Jadapit
12-04-2006, 09:50 AM
Chipper, I had some sort of stomach bug myself last week. ;) I'm so, so happy that he's home and doing so well. He is such a cute dog, I love his sweet face. He couldn't have gotten better owners than you and Andy. He's a lucky fellow. :D Give him a hug for me.

Logan
12-04-2006, 12:53 PM
Kimmy, I have not been able to check in over the weekend. What wonderful news to read, today!!! :) Welcome home, Chipper!!!