Didn't get the pup :(

[IRescue452]

We didn't get the pup we were willing to adopt. They just said they feel there are better homes for the pups with other applicants. I think it was probably my fault because I only have rabies shots for Autumn and I have no plans on getting her other shots as of right now. Oh well, to be honest I think she would have grown huge anyway. I just didn't say anything to my parents because I know once they are attached they wouldn't care how big she got.

[Muddy4paws]

Sorry to hear about the pups, I guess they have to go by what they think is best for the puppys, Im not saying you are a bad owner by that, will you still be looking into getting another pup?

[bckrazy]

I'm sorry :( that is a real bummer, but trust me, there is definitely a puppy out there waiting for you.

That is really dumb that they don't consider you for limited vaccinations. Do you do titers? If so, they have NO reason to reject you for that. The rescue we got Fozzie from knew I do titers & feed Gonzo raw, and they wanted us to adopt him for that! Of course, you would be doing puppy shots, correct?

[lute]

what are titers?

i'm sorry you didn't get one of the pups. you will find a pup! no worries! maybe we'll get pups at the same time!hehe ;)

[.sarah]

Sorry to hear. Maybe you should get a fact sheet together on why you do limited vaccs and give them to rescues when you inquire about a dog available?


what are titers?
Blood tests that measure circulating antibodies for the diseases you vaccinate for, though sometimes they don't work because the dog must have been recently exposed to the disease in order for the antibodies to be present in the bloodstream. Just because a titer is negative doesn't mean your dog isn't immune, it may just mean that they have not been exposed recently. Most dogs are naturally immune to the diseases that most people vaccinate for, so it makes no sense to vaccinate in the first place.

[IRescue452]

I didn't get a chance to tell them I would do a titer. We didn't even get to talk that much, they talked at us. I planned to talk more on Sunday when we were supposed to go back but I guess we aren't going to get a chance. I'm really getting sick of jumping through these hoops and playing games with rescues. We are more than qualified and would love to rescue instead of buy but it looks like we need to rely on bybs to get a dog.

[zoomer]

Sorry to hear about that, it must be really depressing :(

[DrKym]

I am really sorry to hear that! Please dont give up on rescues! Most are wonderful truly, Our new doberman is from a rescue a state away his foster mom drove out here with him introduced him stayed the whole day even though technically we shouldn't have gotten him (our yard isn't fully fenced as we are renovating the house and yard) and their paperwork states never ever will we place ....... anyway after talking with us and many emails and phone calls the right boy was available (he has a few health issues so people were more rreluctant to adopt him) we waited 18 months for the right one, and OMG are we glad we did he is perfect in every way oh did i mention beautiful and perfect? So please keep trying with lots and lots your baby is out there waiting for your call! :)

[bckrazy]

PLEASE don't rely on BYB's, just don't. =( I know that you know better.

I find that pounds & shelters can often come off rude, because many people that have worked there for a long time can become callous and they just want to re-home dogs as quickly & smoothly as possible. Look into specific breed or all-breed rescues, both of my pups are from rescues and working with them was AWESOME! They really cared to hear all about how we felt, and both rescues check up on us regularly, and we send them pics and such.

It is so worth it to rescue a dog, forget some of the rude people you might encounter. You have to understand that some of the rescuers do become bitter, after meeting people who neglect, return, abuse, etc, the dogs they adopt out. These people are NOT in the business for the money... BYB's are in the business for money alone, which results in them being very no-questions-asked and polite, as long as you hand over the cash. It will take time, on your part, to find the perfect pup for you.... just giving up and going to a BYB is a total cop-out! You're better than that.

It took me 2 years to find the perfect puppy. I could NOT be more ecstatic that I waited for Fozzie, it was like he was meant for us all along! I now am so relieved that I didn't buy from a good breeder, a BYB, or anywhere else. I will help you search if it means you'll give rescues a chance! Have you checked out your local ASPCA? I volunteer for one, and have been to a few in various states, and they are a wonderful organization for the most part.

Edited to add: Also, in my opinion, if you have had trouble with the vaccination issue, I would not even mention it if I were you. If you're asked about it, say the puppy will get shots regularly (aka doing titers...). Many rescues are crunched for time & volunteers, so they will simply scan through an application and if you say you don't give shots, they will just write you off simply out of a lack of time. At least they CARE about where the pups are going, unlike BYB's.

[bckrazy]

OMG, have you seen this Cocker puppy? Just, look at him ;x... he was meant for you!

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6443778

[IRescue452]

Well we do have one actual pound in the area, and we haven't looked there. Its a really crappy place but we might as well make the road trip. You are right in saying I won't be happy buying from a byb. But we've got a half fenced yard that we can finish all the way, a history of healthy happy dogs, a good dog club for training, good references, two vets who give us good references, the pup will only be alone for 3 hours a day at most and in a nice crate, we go to the dog park every other day at least, I mean what more do they want?

BTW: I'd love to be able to convince my mom to get a boy dog. She had a male growing up that was as well trained as any other dog but for some reason she has it in her head that a male is going to mark everything. And her male was trained not to lift its leg. I don't understand her sometimes.

[shihtzulover850]

What????? I guess you can reason with them. There are all kinds of diseases they can get and it is required in some states.

[shihtzulover850]

Most dogs are naturally immune to the diseases that most people vaccinate for, so it makes no sense to vaccinate in the first place.
it makes sense to me. all kinds of things spread through dogs. Kennel Cough, rabies distemper. everything. some dogs get sick and others don't. so by vaccinating you prevent the spread of disease to people and other dogs which stops a lot of suffering. just because some dogs aren't as immune as others. but if you choose not to vaccinate your dog that is fine.

[elizabethann]

Don't worry. You'll find a dog someday.

I was rejected by 2 animal organizations before I adopted Fenway. One was a Humane Society that wouldn't let me adopt a dog because:

1. I work 8 hours per day
2. I don't have a fenced in yard
3. I've never owned a dog before

I can't remember why the other organization wouldn't let me adopt.

Luckily, Fenway & I found eachother and he's the most spoiled dog on earth.

Good luck and don't give up!

[shihtzulover850]

OMG, have you seen this Cocker puppy? Just, look at him ;x... he was meant for you!

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6443778
aaawwwww that puppy is the most adorable thing in the world!!! :D

[.sarah]

it makes sense to me. all kinds of things spread through dogs. Kennel Cough, rabies distemper. everything. some dogs get sick and others don't. so by vaccinating you prevent the spread of disease to people and other dogs which stops a lot of suffering. just because some dogs aren't as immune as others. but if you choose not to vaccinate your dog that is fine.
I don't have the energy to reply to this right now lol. I too used to think this way, but I have educated myself since two, possibly three, of my dogs have had vaccine reactions, both of which will affect them for the rest of their lives.

I can PM you later on why I disagree with vaccinating. You may not change your mind, but at least you'll see where I am coming from and that I'm not just a cheap dog owner ;)

[shihtzulover850]

ok I didn't want to get you mad I just wanted to say. Snuggles gets exposed to somethings your dogs may not and you know we feel the need to vaccinate her. we go to dog parks around here and there are lots of dogs and you never know. I didn't think you were cheap though lol :D

[Giselle]

If I may be so blunt, but I think all of us have been rejected by a breeder/adoption group at one point or another, LOL. I know I did, and I'm not ashamed. They rejected us simply because they didn't think a Greyhound was right for us, and they came to this conclusion from a mere 3 minute conversation.

I don't know whether or not your comment about the BYBs was just said out of frustration or sarcasm, but I'll have to echo Bckrazy here.

I really think you should look into the local pound. Those dogs are in the most urgent need and chances are you'll find it tantalizingly simple to adopt a dog from them. I wouldn't be surprised if you came back with a dog the day you went to visit them, LOL. Good Luck and we're sending tons of good wishes! It does hurt to get rejected, but remember, it's their loss!

[IRescue452]

Definately frustration. I am firm about rescuing and there is only a small possibility of me ever getting a non-rescue dog. The pound really isn't local, its a good drive, but I'll convince her to go. We pretty much only have rescues and humane societies here.

[bckrazy]

I agree with Sophie. My sister got a puppy from the pound in ONE visit! Of course, she was much, much less suited to have a dog than you are... I'm not sure if your pound is like ours, but it was much better for Mercedes to even get adopted by my fickle sister than to stay there, and the volunteers there knew that. Every time I visit ours, the puppy kennels are PACKED with adorable pups! I really, really wish I could foster them all.

:) I'm so glad you are dedicated to rescuing. If more people were like you & educated themselves, there wouldn't be an overpopulation issue. You will not regret saving a life, even if it takes a while to find a puppy for you.

[bckrazy]

Alsoo, shihtzulover, think of it this way... are humans vaccinated every year? Or even every few years? No. Gonzo, of course, recieved his puppy shots and is vaccinated every few years, he has been around multiple dogs with kennel cough and never contracted the virus. He gets titers done yearly, which check that his immunity is active. Titers cost 2x more than shots, and most people don't believe in them, so people would rather pump their dogs full of shots every year. I know PLENTY of dogs who contracted kennel cough weeks after recieving their yearly shot, and many dogs who have become sick after getting a massive series of shots all together (bordatella, parvo, rabies, boosters, etc).