View Full Version : Male kitten spayed by mistake
blessings20900
06-02-2006, 07:58 PM
Hi, I am new to the boards and I have a question. First, a little backround. I volunteer with a rescue agency...I take the really tiny kittens without Moms. I bottle-feed them, love them, and send them out for adoption. My latest batch of feral kittens are gorgeous. There are 5...all very lovable. My 3 girls went out to get spayed on Wednesday, and are doing fine. My 2 boys went in this morning, to a different vet. I called to see how they were doing, and I was told all was fine. I told the office I would be picking them up, since they were neutered and a lot less sickly than the girls. So, I pick them up, and when I get home, Jake bounds out of the box, but Rocky can't move. I gently reach in to get him out, and he starts crying. When I take a good look at him, I notice the stitches up the front of his belly. He can't even lift his head up! I run and call the vet...demanding to know what happened. She informed me that the vet thought he was a girl...nothing more. Come back in two weeks to get his stitches removed. This kitten is WAY sicker than his sisters were when they came home, and I had to bring them home the same day. If this vet had told me what happened, I would have let them keep Rocky overnight. I am so sorry if I am rambling and incoherent, but I have had these kittens since they were a week and a half old and am very upset. Finally, my question. One, what can I do for this little guy? He is currently on a bed...not expecting this or I would have left him in his carrier. I am concerned because he keeps swallowing, like he has too much saliva in his mouth. He is barely 2 lbs. And, I guess, am I over-reacting? Thanks for any input...I appreciate it!
Lizzie
06-02-2006, 10:13 PM
Does your rescue agency cover the fees for an emergency vet visit? It might make you feel better if you can take him to one tonight. Just slide him onto the car seat on the blanket he's on now to prevent jolting him.
He may be swallowing a lot because they intubated him and his throat is sore. Since spay takes longer, I think they give an anethestic shot and then intubate, whereas for a quick neuter, they can just use gas in a face mask - someone correct me if I am wrong here. Or he could be swallowing because he's nauseated, and that can cause a cat to produce a lot of saliva.
What a horrible experience for you both. No, you are not over-reacting, I'd be very concerned also.
I'm going to put a new thread in Cats General telling people to check out this one and give responses. That forum is read far more often than this one and I don't want you to miss out on help from our very experienced posters.
Prairie Purrs
06-02-2006, 10:18 PM
Welcome to PT!
I'd have another vet check the poor little guy over ASAP, like tomorrow. It could be that he's just groggy from the anesthetic, but I'd want to find out just what the idiot vet did to him. Cryptorchid males whose testicles haven't descended require more extensive surgery, so maybe that's what happened--but the vet and staff should have told you if that was the case.
I hope little Rocky gets better soon!
kitimom
06-02-2006, 10:27 PM
sending songs and prayers out for little Rocky to better very soon!!!!!
blessings20900
06-02-2006, 11:20 PM
Thanks everyone for your support. I just got back from the vet...supposedly this was a "top notch" vet clinic and pet resort. So, I gave him a call...there were 4 other vets in there today. He was horrified when I told him what happened (this is the vet who started the clinic...he lives onsite). He had me to bring Rocky right in...and he is keeping him for a few days. His back legs are barely moving, and his body is shuddering. The vet asked if I was given any antibiotics, and, again was horrified when I explained no one had told me that this mistake was made. So, Rocky is getting IV fluids and antibiotics, plus he is bleeding from his incision. I am not reimbursed for emergency care, but I am fine with paying for this on my own. When I was given this litter, the director told me she spent the night with a foster mom who had lost a kitten due to the HS not paying for the care. So, I decided to adopt Rocky myself and incure the cost. What the hell, right now I have a teenager, a toddler, a dog, Harley, and my kids...Star, Journey, Mike, Gabby, Lily, and now Rocky, plus my bottle-fed fosters Olivia, Gina, Maggie, Charlotte and Jake. There is always room for one more. Once again, thank you so much for all your support and care!!!!!
Lizzie
06-03-2006, 12:13 AM
I'm very relieved that he is with a vet who knows what he is doing and started urgent care on Rocky. You must feel better knowing that he is getting the care he desperately needs. How wonderful that you are adopting Rocky and are willing to cover his fees; I know those emergency fees can be very high. Please keep us updated, we will want to know what happens.
Craftlady
06-03-2006, 08:29 AM
So sorry to read this about the kitten.
I would make the vet clinic absorb the emergency costs, it was after all on their vet's faults.
Catty1
06-03-2006, 08:51 AM
I agree with Craftlady...since this one vet has been so great, maybe you could phrase it something like this: "What is the clinic's policy on prices for mistakes that the clinic apparently made?"
This way, it doesn't mention a PERSON - it just asks about the CLINIC.
Good luck with that.
Glad little Rocky is getting proper care.
Catty1
jazzcat
06-03-2006, 10:37 AM
Wow, what a horrible mistake to try to sweep under the rug. They should have told you! I'm so glad you were able to talk to an understanding vet who is now treating Rocky. I totally agree with the others that the clinic should not charge you for any of this extra care. It's there fault to begin with!
Prayers and positive thoughts for little Rocky. Having a Rocky myself I feel especially touched by this. I would hate for my little guy to have to suffer so.
Welcome to PT and please keep us posted on Rocky's condition.
blessings20900
06-03-2006, 10:47 AM
Great news! I spoke to the clinic this morning, and the vet got on the phone with me. Rocky is doing well...he was given IV fluids, antibiotics, proteins and vitamins. Also some painkillers and a halo (which he promptly took off) He told me we could either take him home today with antibiotics and pain meds, or leave him another night. I opted for today, and he let me know that he does many Humane Society cats, and this would be no charge. The disturbing part is that he is one of only a few vets that will spay and neuter at a young age, and, this has happened before. How does a vet not know the sex of a cat??? Is it really that much of a factory? We tried to adopt without the spay/neuter with a free voucher given to the adopted parents to have it done at a later date, but some pet owners are just too darn lazy to go have it done. What's wrong with people? When he comes home, I'll grab a pic of him and post it. He's a long hair tabby, with the face of an angel. I thought he was a girl, too, until he got old enough and I, ah, LOOKED! It just blows my mind that a vet couldn't tell...gotta let that go and know I would NEVER use him for my personal animals. The kicker is, this clinic is an extremely UPSCALE and EXPENSIVE place...the resort section looks better than my kids day care! I just wish they'd use the same care on the rescue kitties... Thanks for all your prayers and advice!
Catty1
06-03-2006, 11:05 AM
Good news that Rocky is on the mend and coming home!
If you have a Chamber of Commerce or a Better Business Bureau in your town, you might check this pet place to see if there have been any other problems with the same vet.
Then the vet's medical association might be informed...I'd hate this to happen to any other kitty.
Actually - even WITHOUT a C of C or BBB, calling the vet's board might be an idea. Might not be the first time they have heard of this happening...
Looking forward to pics!
hugs
Catty1
Prairie Purrs
06-03-2006, 12:14 PM
So glad to hear that little Rocky is doing better!
They've done the same thing before? I'd call the state vet's board in a heartbeat. To make a mistake like this is beyond inexcusable.
kuhio98
06-03-2006, 12:26 PM
Blessings ~ So glad to hear that Rocky is doing better. How wonderful of the vet not to charge for the emergency care. I sure wish we had more like him.
sasvermont
06-03-2006, 03:02 PM
I used a clinic for ferals in my area and I know for a fact that the person doing the surgery was not a vet. There was a vet on call, but there was not a vet at the site. I wonder if reduced rates mean not the "A team"..... Even human surgery is done by understudies, with full surgeons "supervising"..... so why wouldn't a tech know how to spay/neuter, after watching the vet do it for years on end.
I would ask that not only you not be charged, but that you get care covered for this dear kitten for some time. A credit at another vet's would work for me! Gosh. Such a screw up.
I am glad little Rocky is going to be ok. Keep us posted.
((((((((((((((((Rocky)))))))))))))))))))
blessings20900
06-03-2006, 04:07 PM
I found out today that this HAS happened many times brfore. In fact, they had done a spay only to find out after she was in heat that she was opened, but the spay was never completed. I was then told that the techs do all the "charity" work. Nice to know, since they still charge...just a reduced rate.
Anyway, my little man is home and happy, and I have gone online and rated the animal hospital and pet resort...took their A+++ rating notch or two!
Pictures are forthcoming...thanks again everyone!
Craftlady
06-03-2006, 05:27 PM
I found out today that this HAS happened many times brfore. In fact, they had done a spay only to find out after she was in heat that she was opened, but the spay was never completed. I was then told that the techs do all the "charity" work. Nice to know, since they still charge...just a reduced rate.
Anyway, my little man is home and happy, and I have gone online and rated the animal hospital and pet resort...took their A+++ rating notch or two!
Pictures are forthcoming...thanks again everyone!
:eek: :eek: :eek: Turn these people into the vet board.
How many have they killed because of their stupidity? Yes, I understand techs can do the work but it's so obvious they are not propertly trained.
The minute I'd hear "happened many times before" I'd be out that door so fast with my aniamal and going somewhere else.
An "eye team" investigative reporter from the local news station would love to have this story brought to his/her attention.
catmandu
06-03-2006, 05:56 PM
That Is Beyond Careless.
It Is Criminal Neglience.
I Would Let The Media Know This, Before Other Pets Are Hurt.
Feline Fanatic
06-04-2006, 09:36 PM
I am new to the boards too but saw your story about Rocky and all the replies and updates. How sad for Rocky that he had to go through that. The poor little guy. I am glad to read that he is doing better! I use a Mobile Animal Surgical Hospital (MASH unit) and have had great success with them over the last year. Something needs to be done about the vet who butchered Rocky! No telling how many others he has hurt or even killed because of his negligence.
Millie, Navy, Clorox, Kimmy, Gracie and Rumor all send their regards!
Dixie Belle
06-05-2006, 09:44 AM
I gotta say, when I read the title for this post my response was "Huh? How do you spay a male cat?" So I has to read it. All I can say is UNBELIVABLE!!! I am not a vet, or a vet tech, or anything, but I have been able to tell the difference between a boy and girl cat since I was SIX YEARS OLD!!!! I agree, they need to be reported. That's just bull crap!!!
I am very gald to hear that the little guy is doing good. I look forward to seeing pics of him.
Killer Kitten
06-05-2006, 11:45 PM
As a licensed tech who has worked spay/neuter clinics for years, I'm shocked at the very thought of techs performing spays.
I know in a lot of places that techs do perform routine cat castrations - under direct supervision of a veterinarian. A cat castration is a relatively simple procedure and is pretty noninvasive. There is some debate over whether it even qualifies as a surgery, putting it into a legal 'grey area'.
A cat spay is a full fledged surgery, involving an abdominal incision and invasive technique. I cannot imagine any circumstances in which veterinary technicians would be permitted to perform such a procedure.
In fact, when we are trained as technicians, it is emphasized to us that the three things we are absolutely not permitted to do are Diagnose, Prescribe and Perform Surgery. Spaying a cat falls under number three.
Sevaede
06-06-2006, 02:15 AM
I just can't believe this. So happy to see that the little man is doing better now!
Inquiring minds want to know, "Don't they CHECK beforehand? Just to make sure?"
moosmom
06-06-2006, 07:27 AM
I would make the vet clinic absorb the emergency costs, it was after all on their vet's faults
I totally agree with you, Craftlady. I'd also report this clinic. Vet Techs are not licensed vets and have absolutely no business doing surgery. That is just plain butchery!! :mad: :mad:
Poor little Rocky. I'm praying for the little guy.
k9krazee
06-06-2006, 01:06 PM
Wow :eek: Absolutely unbelievable! I'm glad hes home now and on the way to recovery.
Kirsten
06-06-2006, 01:35 PM
Poor little Rocky!!! I'm glad to read that he is doing better meanwhile, but he must have been so much in pain!!
Unbelievable what they did to him!!! :mad:
Kirsten
alexandra
06-07-2006, 11:08 AM
:eek: I'm speechless, which does not happen often.
Donnaj4962
06-07-2006, 01:15 PM
I am just reading this thread, and I am so sorry that you, and ROCKY, have had to go through all of this! It is so wrong, on so many levels!!! :mad:
I am glad that Rocky is doing better. Please keep us posted and we are always anxious for pictures! Give the little one a luvvin and a scritch or two!
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