Animal Testing

[slleipnir]

I don't know if this still happens or not, but when I was having a shower earlier, I got some shampoo in my eyes. I was thinking like "This stings!" and washing it out or whatever. I thought about the animals that have to get that done to them. It almost makes me sick thinking about those poor little creatures who are so innocent and don't deserve that treatment. It's just cruel!!! I only buy shampoo and soaps and such that aren't tested on animals. I don't know if it matters, but i'm NOT supporting those cruel *word I can't use on PT*. I think that the shampoo I use is wonderful, maybe even better then ones tested on them. So it obviously doesn't make any point to do that! Can anyone tell me if this still happens??

[ilovehounds]

Good for you for not using products that use animal testing a big THUMBS UP !!

Unfortunatly it still occurs and about the only thing we can do is just what you are doing not buying their products.


I posted this before but I'll post it again

**Boycott These Products Until They Stop Using Animal Tests:

*Companion Animal Care

Iams

*Deodorant

Old Spice, Secret, Sure

*Diapers and Baby Care

Baby Fresh, Kid Fresh, Luvs, Pampers, Wash-a-Bye Baby

*Food and Beverage

Crisco, Eagle Snacks, Folgers, Hawaiian Punch, Jif, Millstone

Coffee, Olean/Olestra, Pringles, Puritan Oil, Sunny Delight,

Tender Leaf Tea

*Fragrance

Giorgio, Hugo Boss, Laura Biagiotti-Roma, Old Spice, Red,

Venezia, Wings

*Hair Care

Head & Shoulders, Ivory, Pantene, Pert, Physique, Prell,

Vidal Sassoon

*Hygiene

Always, Attends, Tampax

*Laundry and Cleaning

Biz, Bold, Bounce, Cascade, Cheer, Cinch, Comet, Dash, Dawn,

Downy, Dreft, Dryel, Era, Febreze, Gain, Ivory, Ivory Snow,

Joy, Mr. Clean, Orvus, Oxydol, Solo, Spic & Span, Swiffer,

Tide, Top Job

*Non-Prescription Drugs/Health Aids

DayQuil, Metamucil, NyQuil, Pepto-Bismol, Percogesic, Sinex,

ThermaCare, VapoRub, Vicks

*Oral Care

Cloraseptic, Crest, Fasteeth, Fixodent, Gleem, Scope

*Paper Product

Banner, Bounty, Charmin, Puffs, Royale, Summit

*Prescription Drugs

Actisite, Asacol, Brontex, Dantrium, Didronel, Macrodantin,

Peridex, Ultradol, Zebeta, Ziac

*Skin Care

Clearasil, Clearstick, Cover Girl, Max Factor, Noxzema, Oil of Olay

*Soap

Camay, Coast, Ivory, Safeguard, Zest


**Cruelty-Free Alternatives :

*Companion Animal Care

Choose from many alternative brands.

*Deodorant

Almay, Avon, Lady Mitchum, Mitchum, Tom's of Maine

*Diapers

Fancy Bottoms, cloth diapers

*Fragrance

Aramis, Avon, Bath & Body Works, Beautiful, Chanel, Charlie, Crabtree & Evelyn, Garden Botanika,

Liz Claiborne, Tommy, Tommy Girl, Victoria's Secret, White Linen

*Hair Care

Agree, Aveda, Bath & Body Works, Body Shop, Citré Shine, Flex, Freeman, Hälsa, Jheri Redding,

John Paul Mitchell Systems, Revlon

*Hygiene

Natracare, Seventh Generation

*Laundry and Cleaning

Bon Ami, Ecover, Seventh Generation, Sun

*Oral Care

Lavoris, Tom's of Maine, Topol Tooth Polish

*Paper Products

Marcal, Seventh Generation

*Skin Care

Almay, Aubrey Organics, Avon, Basis, Bobbi Brown, Body Shop, Clinique, Estée Lauder, Jane,

M.A.C., Origins, Revlon, Ultima II

*Soap

Basis, Bath & Body Works, Body Shop, Garden Botanika, San Francisco Soap Company, Yardley



Animal tests cannot be accurately applied to human experience because of the enormous physiological differences between animals and humans. More than 550 companies, including large corporations like Gillette and Avon, ensure their customers' safety by using more accurate, nonanimal tests, but some refuses to switch--even for cosmetics and household products, which make up the majority of products and are not required by law to be tested on animals.

[carrie]

Yes, it is still a huge industry and sadly many companies have jumped on the bandwagon of "Not Tested on Animals" without changing a thing!!
As they buy in the ingredients for the final product from other companies they can claim that the final product is not tested on animals. This does not mean that each and every seperate ingredient has not been tested on animals, just the end product. To be really sure you need to visit each website and if the information is not clear then email them and ask! That's what I do!
It's very interesting to ask how they know their products are safe if they are not tested on animals and how the company does test.

[AmberLee]

Thanks for the info ... I had no idea of how wide-spread it is!

[AdoreMyDogs]

Unless they have changed their ways, Proctor & Gamble is a HUGE supporter of animal testing! They are a huge company, and they have many, many products of all types, so there's ALOT of animal testing that happens due to that company.

I boycott all Proctor & Gamble products because of this.

[lizbud]

At the risk of sounding the death knell to this topic,
LOL.
I will post what I know about animal testing. Yes, it is
unfortunately still being done. P & G is by far the largest
congomerate , producing the most products which ,
(as Carrie has already said) test the ingredients to all
their products on animals but not the end product name.
It's a matter of semantics designed to confuse the
comsumer.

[slleipnir]

Hmm..wow, thats a lot of info! I always look to make sure it's not tested on animals, but I never really realized before about what carrie said. Thanks for all the info

[ilovehounds]

Is Iams owned by Procter and Gamble ???? I know Iams is animals tested so I never even look at a bag but I thought someone had said they took it over ? And Eucanuba (sp) ..lol.. is an Iams product yes or no ???

Does anyone know if Iams was animal tested before P&G took it over if in fact they did take it over ??? Thats something Im going to look into.

[Logan]

I am pretty sure that P&G now owns the Iams and Eukanuba labels, Angie. And at the same time, I will also admit that my girls are thriving on an IAMS food (weight control in the blue bag) which I hesitate to stop, even after Lilly achieves the target weight. But it is good to be informed. All testing is probably not bad for the animals, but there are horrible stories out there. Like the sled dog topic, you have to balance your opinion and not believe the first thing that you read.

Logan

[Phred]

Inserting the term "animal testing" into the http://www.google.com search engine brought up hundreds of web pages. Here are just a few...

Humane Society US page... Many other related pages on the subject at this HSUA site. Towards the bottom of this page they explain a few of the animal tests; and how they have been modified (and in some cases eliminated) to minimize test animal suffering.

Animal Defense Leage site... Comments on Proctor & Gamble and Iams.

P&G company site... This page links to many P&G pages dealing with animal testing.

US Food & Drug Administration site... Pages of information from one of the Federal Agencies that in some cases require animal testing.

Can we ever eliminate all animal testing of products?
Sadly, no - we probably can't do that and still have new products that are safe for both humans AND animals.

BUT - We CAN insist and demand that the tests be humane, limit suffering and pain, AND be conducted on the absolute Minimum number of animals required to achieve valid test results.

[Logan]

Thanks, John.

[Phred]

Anyone who looked before...
Check my post again ~
Had to fix my links - had the same page 3 times.
{Sorry} /s/ Phred

[ilovehounds]

Oh please don't get me wrong, I know alot of pet talkers who feed their babies Iams and Im not saying you shouldn't. I was just wondering if P&G now owns it and if Iams did animal testing before they did.

If Iams works for your babies then I wouldn't stop feeding it to them either. Its hard to keep dogs at a healthy weight (been there done that ) and finding that right food to do it is also hard.

[lizbud]

Phred,

Hi and thanks for posting links & suggesting that people
who are interested in finding out more info on this topic,
to search around for All the current info available on
testing chemicals on animals.
I must say that I can't agree with you that animal
testing is a necessary evil.
Yes, this "business practice" is evil; and No , it is not
at all necessary. There are many more modern & humane
ways to test consumer products.

I've had a LONG DAY at work today and I'm pooped,
so I'm calling it a day. I would like to post more later.
Give Cinder & Smokie a hug from me. Liz.

[C.C.'s Mom]

I read somewhere that the European Union has now said, that it's forbidden to market any product that's tested on animals.

There's a website where you can check out which product are safe and which aren't:

Tested On Animals

Not Tested On Animals