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    Why Trigger?:(

    Well i guess you all know I have so many dogs. If you don't i have 9! My mom is always angrey and she is deciding to sell some of our dogs. And one off them is Trigger, our 4 year old yorkie. She never lets him inside because he pees on everything, you know how boys are.
    Well he has been our first dog we have ever kep this long, we never had a dog last this long. We have had him for 4 years. And we just can't sale him. We don't really use him for breeding any more. Every time I tell mom not to she gets all mad and just starts yelling at me.
    If he is gone it just wont be the same, he has ben our stud muffin. This is why I hate my mom breeding dogs you get so atached to them for so long and then she turns around and sales them. We have sold 5 dogs that way. But this time it is different we have had Trigger for 4 years. I don't know what to do!
    Here is Trigger>>>
    Kristy
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    What do you mean you've never kept a dog for longer then 4 years? I think your mom needs to learn dogs are NOT toys and you can't just throw them away when they can't do their "job" anymore. Why don't you talk to her about breeding dogs? Explain about puppymills and BYB's, and that she is probably a BYB....
    Who knows...maybe it's best if Trigger gets a new home. With all the love he deserves.

    IMO.

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    I've posted this on pet talk before...it's one of my favorite articles because it's soooo true and opens your eyes. Show this to your mom:

    ATTENTION ALL NOVICE POTENTIAL BREEDERS!!!!
    SO YOU WANT TO BE A BREEDER?
    Breeding the female

    So you want to breed your female. You know what to expect if everything goes right. Your little girl will present you with tiny bundles of joy. She will lovingly nurse them and care for them until they are old enough to be weaned. You and your family will find great joy in watching and playing with these little dolls, and then when the time is right they will all (or maybe you keep just one) go off to special homes to live out their lives as cherished companions. But have you given consideration to what if something goes wrong? I have listed here a few of the problems that I myself have personal knowledge of. Everything listed has happened either to me, or some one I know. These are not isolated incidents. I’m sure other breeders could add miles to my list. Learn by others mistakes!. Let the breeding up to those who know what they are doing, have the experience, know what to expect.

    What if during the breeding............

    1) The stud dog you have chosen is carrying a venereal disease and gives it to your female. She not only dose not conceive but you have to pay the vet bills to get her infection cleared up and she is now sterile.

    2) The stud dog you decided to breed your darling to is not experienced. Once the two dogs are joined tightly in a tie, he decides to chase the neighbor’s cat out of his yard. He bolts for the cat ripping his penis loose and causing your bitch to hemorrhage from within.

    3) Your modest girl decides she doesn’t want the attentions of this gigolo mutt chosen for her without her consent. She snaps at him catching her tooth on his loose cheek and rips it open sending blood flying everywhere. He retaliates by sinking his teeth into her left eye.

    4) You leave your dog with the stud owner because the breeding is not going very swiftly. In fact , it’s been three hours and nothing is happening. The stud owners leave the two dogs alone in the back yard. The dogs get out through a tiny hole in the fence and a truck hits your female.

    5) You pay the $250-$1,000 stud fee up front figuring you will make that and more back when the pups sell. The breeder guarantees the stud service to work or you can come back again. After 2 months you discover it didn’t work and now must wait another 4 months to try again. Of course it doesn’t work again, so in another 4 months you take your dog to another male and risk loosing another stud fee.

    6) You get her bred. Bring her home. She bothers you so you let her out (she is still in heat and still receptive to males). You here a commotion outside there is your girl tied up with the neighborhood mutt. When she whelps there will need to be DNA tests done on the pups.

    7) You get her bred. Bring her home. Let her out. (She is still in heat and receptive to other males) but you do not see the neighborhood mutt breed her. The pups are born but look odd. You call the stud owner he suggests DNA testing (At your expense). You have a litter of mutts!
    what do you do about the ones you have already sold?.

    8) Or knowing she tied with the neighborhood mutt you decide to terminate the pregnancy and try again being more careful next time. But a few weeks later your female is very sick because you had her given a miss-mate shot and now she has Pyometra and needs a complete hysterectomy. All plans of getting a litter is gone and your females life is now in danger if she dose not have the operation.

    What if during the birth..............

    1) The puppies are too large for the female’s hips. She never goes into labor, the puppies die and she becomes infected by the decaying bodies.

    2) The puppies are coming breach and they drown in their own sacks before they can be born.

    3) The first puppy is large and breach. When it starts coming your female starts screaming, and before you can stop her she reaches around, grabs the puppy in her teeth and yanks it out killing it instantly.

    4) A puppy gets stuck. Neither your female nor you can get it out. You have to race her to the vet. The vet can’t get it out either. She has to have an emergency caesarian section of course it is 3:00 am Christmas day.

    5) A puppy is coming out breach and dry (the water sack that protects them has burst). It gets stuck. Momma tries to help it out by clamping her teeth over one of the back legs. The head and shoulders are firmly caught. Momma pulls on the leg, hard, peeling the flesh from the leg and leaving a wiggling stump of bone.
    6) A dead puppy gets stuck in the birth canal, but your female is well into hard labor. She contracts so hard trying to give birth that her uterus ruptures and she bleeds to death on the way to the vet.

    What if directly after birth..........

    1) The mother has no idea what to do with a puppy and she drops them out and walks away, leaving them in the sack to drown.

    2) The mother takes one look at the puppies, decides they are disgusting droppings and tries to smother them in anything she can find to bury them in.

    3) The mother gets too enthusiastic in her removal of the placenta and umbilical cord, and rips the cord out leaving a gushing hole pulsing blood all over you as you try in vain to stop the bleeding.

    4) Or, she pulls on the cords so hard she disembowels the puppies as they are born and you have a box full of tiny; kicking babies with a tangle of guts the size of a walnut hanging from their stomachs. Of course all the babies must be put to sleep.

    5) What if because of some hormone deficiency she turns vicious allowing no one near her or the babies, who she refuses to nurse, or you have you interfere with.

    6) You notice something protruding from her vagina when you let her out to pee; you take her to the vet to discover a prolapsed uterus, which needs to be removed.

    What if when you think you are in the clear..................

    1) One or more of the puppies inhaled fluid during birth, pneumonia develops and death occurs within 36 hours.

    2) what if the mothers milk goes bad. You lose three of your four puppies before you discover what is wrong. You end up bottle-feeding the remaining pup every two hours, day and night. After three days the puppy fades from infection and dies.

    3) The puppies develop fading puppy syndrome you lose two. Your bottle-feeding or tube feeding the last remaining baby. It begins to choke and despite your efforts to clear the airway, the pup stiffens and dies in your hands.

    4) Your female develops mastitis and her breast ruptures.

    5) Your female develops a uterine infection from a retained placenta. Her temperature soars to 105. You race her to the vet, he determines she must be spayed. He dose the spay in an attempt to save her life, you pay the hundreds of dollars bill. The infection has gone into her blood stream. The infected milk kills all the puppies and the bitch succumbs a day later.

    6) All the puppies are fine but following the birth the female develops a hormone imbalance. She becomes a fear biter and anytime anyone tries to touch her she viciously attacks him or her.

    7) Mom and pups seem fine, the puppies are four weeks old and are at their cutest. But one day one of the puppies disappears. You search everywhere but you can’t find it. A few days later another puppy is gone. And another. You can’t figure how on earth the puppies are getting out of their safe 4’ x 4’ puppy pen. Finally there is only one puppy left. The next morning you find the mother chomping contentedly on what is left of the last murdered puppy.

    What if the new homes are not so happy?.......................

    1) You give a puppy to a friend. Their fence blows down so they tie the puppy outside while they go to work. A roving dog comes along and kills the puppy. Your friend calls you up to tell you about the poor little puppy and asks when you are having more puppies.

    2) You sell a puppy to an acquaintance. The next time you see them you ask how the puppy is doing. They tell you that it soiled their new carpet so they took it to the pound

    3) You sell a puppy to a friend (you give them a good price and payments). They make a couple of tiny payments. Six months later they move to an apartment. They ask you to take it back. You take it back and of course the payments stop. The dog they returned is so shy, and ill mannered from lack of socialization and training it takes you a year of work providing socializing and training to be able to give it away.

    4) You sell a puppy to a wonderful home. They love her like one of the family. At a vet check done by their vet it is determined that the puppy has a heart murmur. (Your vet found nothing when he checked the puppy before it was sold.) They love their puppy and want the best for her. They have an expensive surgery done. The puppy is fine. They sue you for the medical costs. They win, because you did not have a contract stipulating conditions of guarantee and so as breeder you are responsible for the puppies genetic health.

    5) You give a puppy to your mother. She is thrilled. Two years later the puppy starts developing problems. It begins to develop odd symptoms and is suffering. Hundreds and hundreds of dollars worth of tests later it is finally discovered that the dog is suffering from a terminal condition that was inherited. Possibly, from your female since you know nothing about her family lines.
    6) One loving home decides your puppy is un-trainable, destructive and wants to return the pup and get a full refund, which you have spent on your vet bills.

    7) One loving couple calls you and is very upset because their pup has crippling hip dysphasia and want to know what you are going to do about it. You have spayed your female so a replacement is out of the question, looks like another refund.

    The Sale:...................

    1) You put your ad in the local paper for your pups at the usual price and get only 2 responses and no sales. You cut the pup’s price in half and broaden your advertising to 3 other newspapers in which the advertising totals $120.00 a week.

    2) You get a few more puppy inquiries from people who ask all about health testing you did before breeding and if the pups are registered. You tell them your dogs are healthy and it was enough and that you could get the papers. The callers politely thank you and hang up.

    3) the pups are now 4 months old and getting bigger , eating allot and their barking is really beginning to annoy the neighbors who call the police who inform you of the $150.00 noise by-law.

    4) Your neighbors also call the humane society who comes out to inspect the care of your dogs. You pass inspection but end up feeling stressed and harassed.

    5) You finally decide to give the rest of the litter away but still have to pay the $1200.oo advertising bill and the $600.oo vet bill.


    So you got to ask yourself
    do I feel lucky?
    Well, ...........
    Do ya, “breeder?”

    Kai [Sheltie], Kaedyn [Sheltie], Keeva [Malinois], Kwik [Malinois]

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    Ashely, that's awesome!

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    Re: Why Trigger?:(

    FROGSnDOGS,

    You already know how most of us feel about your mother's dog breeding practices, so I will not go their.
    (it's the dogs that suffer)
    I am so sorry to here that your mother is selling
    your beloved pet, that you have grown attached to.
    (and I am sure he is VERY attached to you too.)
    Maybe you can ask your mother if Trigger can be neutered and
    you will pay her so much a month and do extra jobs around
    the house and Trigger can become your dog.
    If you can not keep Trigger I hope your mother will
    neuter him and find a very good pet home where he
    will get lots of attention and love.


    Karen


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    :(

    Well we have never kep a pet this long because, well our first dog got sike its first year with us and we had to put her down. and then we got two yokies and them my mom decided she did not want them any more after two years. We bred them once. And we got a couple more podles and she said they were to big or too small to breed so they went to.
    Then we got Trigger now she won't breed he anymore so now she is thinking about saleing he also. She even sad she will not keep all the dogs she buys. Once they get to old to breed she will sale them.
    It just makes me feel so sad. A dog is a life comitment and she even said that her self! I just wish she never got into the breeding busnes! We have got'ten so atached to Trigger now the poor guy might just leave us. We sold one of our yokie about a year ago that we had for 2 1/2 years and i am still not over her being gone. Hmmmm Thanks for caring guys. I hope we just don't sale him.
    You know what makes me even mader she only might sale him beacause he is always out side and when shelets him in he pees on our new chouch. Thanks again guys, hope you can help.
    Kristy
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    Your "mom" needs a big wakeup call.

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    )C:

    I know, sadly I know.
    Kristy
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    Just PLEASE, don't take after her. I'm glad you realise that it's not right to use dogs like that. Hope it works out ok.

    9/3/13
    I did the right thing by setting you free
    But the pain is very deep.
    If only I could turn back time, forever, you I'd keep.
    I miss you


    I hear you whimper in your sleep
    I gently pet you and say, no bad dreams
    It will be alright, to my dog as dark as night.

    Fur as dark as the night.
    Join me on this flight.
    Paws of love that follow me.
    In my heart you'll forever be.
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    How I wish I could hold you near.
    Turn back time to make it so.
    Hug you close and never let go.
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    Holy Smokes, Binka! That article is good! I never did understand how breeders could do that. My friends mom breeds and trains police dogs. They had this shephard, Cuervo for like 7 years, and then she sold him. It blew me away. I could not imagine how anyone could sell a dog after having him for 7 years. When I yelled at her about it, she laughed and said "Hey! I got 7 grand." I don't care if I was offered a million, I couldn't sell my pet.

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    EXCELLENT article, binka_nugget!! Well said!!!

    I'm sorry, I know this isn't your fault, nor can you change your mother's behavior. The best you can do is learn from her mistakes and don't be the same way when you grow up and can make your own decisions.

    I know you will miss this dog, but I have to say that he will probably be better off with a family that will take the time to housetrain him and let him live inside.

    Just MHO.

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    :O

    Of course i will never breed dogs. I plan to have two standard poodles when I am older and I want them to be with me forever. That has been my dream. Well thanks for the help again. I really hope she does not sale our little boy Trigger!
    Kristy
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