Sick of being muzzled

[COCatMama]

This thread will be deleted too, I'm sure. I'm leaving again, I refuse to stay in a place where only one point of view is permitted. Does anyone actually realize there is 10,000 litres of Anthrax in Iraq? TEN THOUSAND. That's enough ANTHRAX to wipe out...I don't even want to think about it.
Anyway, I'm gone. I hope Sadam is removed quickly.

[moosmom]

Lalania,

Did I miss something? Why are you letting it get to you? This is a great site with great people. PM Karen and let her know how you feel. Just because someone pisses you off with their beliefs doesn't mean it's the opinion of everyone here. Just MHO.

[COCatMama]

what's the point of msging her? she's the one that keeps 'muzzling' me. Recently a PT user called me aaaaaallllll sorts of nasty things and before I totally lost it and let her know what I think of her, I left. No action was taken against that user to my knowledge. I am pro-war, and that opinion is not 'popular' so I am muzzled for saying that. I would rather Saddam is removed than to get ANTHRAX, wouldn't you? Anyway, I'm off.

[wolf_Q]

I read your other post that was deleted, but I don't quite remember what it said. Maybe it was the way it was worded?

I do not think it is true that only one point of view is permitted here. It's just the WAY you make your opinion known. And no offense, but you don't seem too open to others opinions either.

[COCatMama]

Oh, I've heard it all believe me. I wish people would like, actually think of what would happen if Saddam was not removed. There would be no peace, only more acts of evil by deranged people.

[wolf_Q]

Lalania, why don't you think of what this board is all about...PETS. Not war, not religion, not any other topic in that nature.

Yes, those posts happen....and if other's opinions anger you so much, why do you read their posts? You can argue and argue whether we should have war or peace, but you are not going to change anyone's mind, nor are you going to stop what is happening.

If you don't want to be angered about how people feel about war on this board, go to another board to talk about war. Maybe if you'd post about PETS more, you'd realize what a great place this is.

p.s. Ann is obviously AGAINST war, and you are obviously FOR it, yet you are both being "muzzled" for your opinions. Maybe it's the way you choose to make your beliefs known. I don't see how you can make the claim that there is only one belief on this board.

[moosmom]

Oh well. That's your choice. And...your loss.

[lovemyshiba]

I don't think we need a whole bunch of threads reminding us of the state of the world right now. That's why we have our televisions, radios, newspapers, and internet. I know I'm not the only one who comes to Pet Talk for fun and conversation, and I know we do all have differing opinions. I don't think anyone is trying to "muzzle" you, but I am sure that there are plenty of other message boards that would love to engage in disagreements and have tempers flare over the war right now. I don't think it is needed here. I also agree that it's not necessarily what you say, but it doesn't seem that you are willing to see anyone else's opionion about anything.
I will miss seeing pictures of Juneau, but you have to do what you have to do.

[Ann]

Originally posted by Lalania
I am pro-war, and that opinion is not 'popular' so I am muzzled for saying that.

If that's true, how come she asked me to change my signature (which was anti-war)? Doesn't quite add up there. Maybe she doesn't care what standpoint you have; she just wants to keep it off this forum no matter what and stick to pets. Did you ever consider that?

[sasvermont]

Lalania,

I learned a long time ago, that you waste time and energy performing in front of the wrong audience. This forum (Pet Talk) is multi-opinioned for sure and we do have our moments. I just don't think this is the right forum for discussing Wars, religions and politics. Too many people come here for comfort, companionship, relaxation, entertainment of a calming nature, reassurance - I could go on. I know we all have options when it comes to looking at threads - and putting people on ignore lists - endless options including not coming here at all. There is one more option and that is to GO TO A FORUM ABOUT WARS, RELIGION, POLITICS etc. and chat about it there. Why here? It is called Pet Talk.

Please do not think I am suggesting you are wrong by posting - just mistaken. This is Pet Talk.

Sallyanne

[Logan]

Doesn't appear to me this morning that anyone is being muzzled. I gladly go on record that I'm not "for" any political discussion on this website, so I try and stay out of it, completely, and just enjoy the reason most of us are here, our pets! It still amazes me that people continue to start up anything in this General section that is controversial because it ALWAYS gets out of hand. Surely there are chat rooms and other boards that were created for the political and religious discussions and arguments. I certainly don't think that was the reason for Pet Talk. Karen has certainly made that clear, over and over.

Maybe everyone will eventually learn that we like each and every member of this board, and we want to share in the joy of their pets, things that worry them about life and health issues, and their happy moments too, not all of which are pet related. That's the way I feel, anyway. Profanity and name calling aren't something that I choose to engage in and I certainly don't expose my child to it. There are children, the age of mine, on this board and I hate to think that they are being exposed to adults who can't control their emotions. If for no other reason, couldn't we just stop this for them?? Please?? I was sharing something with my husband, politically related, from this site, last week, and his comment was that it was a sad day when a Pet Lover's site turns political. I totally agreed with him.

[Karen]

I deleted a post of Lalaina's that was harshly worded and inappropriate in the thread it was in. I told her, in part,

I deleted your post because it seemed unnecessarily harsh. The world IS a scary place, yes, but we don't need to bring the battle to Pet Talk, okay?

THAT is my point. We do not need to fight this war in Pet Talk. This should be a place of peace and refuge, not a place to pick fights.

[Randi]

You said it SO well Sas - and Logan too!

.... and Karen!

We do not need to fight this war in PT!

[moosmom]

Karen,

THAT is my point. We do not need to fight this war in Pet Talk. This should be a place of peace and refuge, not a place to pick fights.

Very well put. I'm glad you stepped in.

[All Creatures Great And Small]

Originally posted by Ann
Maybe she doesn't care what standpoint you have; she just wants to keep it off this forum no matter what and stick to pets. Did you ever consider that?

Did YOU ever consider that, Ann?