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    As a vet tech, I can count on one had the number of large breed dogs I've had to muzzle. I can not even begin to count the number of small breed dogs we need to muzzle. The point being is that owners of larger breeds, such as pit bulls, do face more responsibility because if "bad behavior" such as mouthiness or jumpiness is allowed to go unchecked with a larger breed you face much bigger problems than if the same behaviors were left unchecked in a small breed. So we see many, many small dogs coming in that need to be muzzled versus larger breeds that are perfect angels at the vet.

    The point I'm trying to make is that it is 100% the owner and in how the dog is raised.

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    Everyone that knows me I am very passionate about pit bulls. And, I absolutely hate BSL. I have worked with many through out my life and even had a pit bull mix growing up. I think they are the sweetest dogs, I have never met a more loving, loyal dog than the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT).

    Most attacks aren't even pit bulls. If the dog attacks, it's assumed to be a pit bull and most of time they aren't. The APBT passes more tests than the popular dog breeds of today. http://www.atts.org Sure, people get them for the wrong reasons. But, I have seen a lot of APBT owners in my town that are pretty good with them.

    Like with any dog, you must be responsible. Even more so with the APBT since they have a bad rap. You have to make darn sure that you don't set your dog up for failure. Most of the time, people believe in the myths too greatly. Education is key, they can take it or leave it.

    But all you can do is try to educate them that they aren't monsters because they aren't. I have educated people with pit bulls at the shelter with breed ambassadors. It only takes one person at a time to educate and I have made (not truly forced it) them like the breed because of the awesomeness of these dogs.

    But, if you can't get through to them atleast you tried your best. I will have my own APBT someday and will fight for these dogs until my last breath. They are unfairly misunderstood. Not everyone is going to like your breed of choice. With this wonderful breed you have to have thick skin since a lot of people will diss you and your dog.

    And it is your responsibility to make sure nothing happens with your dog negatively. Because if you do, it's one step closer of us not owning this wonderful breed. Your dog should be a breed ambassador. If the dog doesn't like other dogs, it's not failing your dog.

    Dog aggression is what is normal in this breed as they were bred to fight other dogs. You just need to be responsible and make sure your dog doesn't get in a fight as your dog will be blamed whether the other dog started it or not. Also, ignorant/uneducated people link dog aggression going after a human next. Which is not true at all.

    Human aggression is not accepted. Your pit bull should be great with all people, except if in a situation you are being held at gun point and your dog protects you or you get robbed. That is different. These dogs would take a bullet for you, that's how truly loyal they are. Sorry for the long post, but I am extremely passionate about the APBT and mixes and them being targeted because of hatred is not ok.
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    Abandoned dogs rescued from vacant South Side house

    I heard this story on news radio tonight. I'm glad the dogs were rescued so they aren't alone in the house with no food or water. How mean of the people to abandon the dogs when they left the house. I hope they are adopted (if they're adoptable now) or go to an organization that can work with them, to get them socialized and ready to be part of a family.

    CHICAGO (CBS) – Animal Control workers have rescued two dogs who were abandoned inside a South Side home last week.

    WBBM Newsradio’s Mike Krauser reports three Animal Care & Control workers went into the home in the 9100 block of South Paxton Avenue through a broken window, and captured the dogs using snares – long poles with collars on the end.

    Workers said both dogs were pit bulls, or pit bull mixes, and were aggressive, but didn’t give them too much trouble. The dogs growled and snarled as they were taken away.

    The workers said, once they had the snares around the dogs' necks, it was just a matter of struggling to get them in a van.

    There was food left behind in the house when the owners abandoned them inside, but it was still in the bag. The owners had been squatting in the house.

    Neighbor Jim Jankovics said he’s head the dogs barking for several days, and was glad to see them rescued.

    He said squatters moved into the vacant house about three weeks ago, then left about a week ago, leaving the dogs behind.
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    I also saw a story in "Woman's Day" magazine about this organization - Jasmine's House, which works with neglected, abused or abandoned pit bulls. They also try to educate people and clear up misconceptions and stereotypes about them.

    http://www.jasmineshouse.org/
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    In my personal experiences working in a clinic, we RARELY have to muzzle pits that come in for fear of aggression issues. The few we do muzzle is usually for procedures they may find uncomfortable or painful (in which case we'd muzzle ANY dog for it, not just pits).

    We have to muzzle FAR more small breed dogs, German shepherds, have to muzzle *every* rhodesian ridgeback that comes in... but rarely any pits due to aggression.

    I think BSL is a load of crap. If they want a legislation that will work, they need to focus on the owners, not the breed.

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    My friends son has a female pit bull he got from the local pound. She is very timid.

    My friend takes her along with her in her car to different places & once even on a fund raiser walk.

    Her son is very careful with his dog because where he lives there are little children living upstairs in the house apartment.

    He takes her to work with him & she sits in his truck on nice days, he is a carpenter by trade.

    I would consider him to be a very responsible dog owner not throwing caution to the wind.
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    The only real warning people need about bully breeds, and the reason I avoid getting one, is hip dysplasia and other joint problems. My sister's dog is only about 8 months and overweight and he has what looks to me like luxating patella in a back knee. I'm working on her now to try and convince her to keep his weight down and see a specialist if she can. I may just go ahead and buy him some joint supplements myself if she's too cheap to do it. Maybe I can convince her to get pet insurance. He's probably going to need it sooner than later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRescue452 View Post
    The only real warning people need about bully breeds, and the reason I avoid getting one, is hip dysplasia and other joint problems. My sister's dog is only about 8 months and overweight and he has what looks to me like luxating patella in a back knee. I'm working on her now to try and convince her to keep his weight down and see a specialist if she can. I may just go ahead and buy him some joint supplements myself if she's too cheap to do it. Maybe I can convince her to get pet insurance. He's probably going to need it sooner than later.
    That's sad.

    Brennan is a clearly very poorly bred Pit Bull and I can tell by the way his legs are shaped that he's going to have joint problems in time.

    He also has horrible allergies (including a corn allergy), and this is also pretty common in Bully breeds.
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