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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post

    LH...I should think a "religious scholar" would know that the King James Version of the Bible is not the version used by the Catholic Church?
    I'm well aware that the Catholic Church does not use the KJV, after all, it was a text made by heretics to let the masses read the bible in their native language, however, most bibles translated prior to archeological discoveries in the latter part of the 20th century have inaccuracies because they are translations of translations, without the strict code of Hebrew scholars.

    As to the leading part of that statement, I don't claim to be a religious scholar, for that matter I have little truck with any "religion".

    Just for a little clarification on that statement, the Pharisees were religious. John had faith.


    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    It's not my book but I do find it rather...situational ethics...Thou shall not kill does not apply if you think the person needs killing. Does that extent to the other nine? Keeep the Sabbath Holy - unless there is a football game on? Thou shall not steal - unless the person really doesn't need it.
    YOu don't believe? Fine, stop denigrating others faith. I know you find conversation minus derision to be a nearly impossible bar for you to get to, but please try.



    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    They are the commandments - not the suggestions as someone once said to me. To suggest it is okay if it is a "legal" kill...whose laws define legal?

    And how many of the rabbis were there when Moses got the tablets anyway?
    They are commandments, not suggestions....however, go back to the language they were originally written in, and they are far different in meaning from the religious dogma. As to how many rabbis were there when Moses got the tablets? None, however, the Hebrew scholarly traditions have maintained a fairly rigid record through the years.
    Last edited by Lady's Human; 12-27-2012 at 10:03 PM.
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    Congrats LH! I think you made it two or three posts without giving in to the apparently irresistible urge to insult me. Well done!

    You are the one insulting religion with your "reinterpretation of the Ten Commandments" to conveniently match your political agenda.

    Talmudic wrangling is interesting but even the learned rabbis do not know in what language the tablets given to Moses were written. And how translated how many times? No one, not even you, knows in what language - or was it language or images? That God used to communicate his commandments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Congrats LH! I think you made it two or three posts without giving in to the apparently irresistible urge to insult me. Well done!

    You are the one insulting religion with your "reinterpretation of the Ten Commandments" to conveniently match your political agenda.

    Talmudic wrangling is interesting but even the learned rabbis do not know in what language the tablets given to Moses were written. And how translated how many times? No one, not even you, knows in what language - or was it language or images? That God used to communicate his commandments.
    It's not MY reinterpretation of the ten commandments. There are multiple sources that disagree with both the literal translation into English and the interpretation(s). In addition, it goes well beyond solely Hebrew scholars, that Messianic Jewish commentary I used was just an example of one.

    As to insults....

    In the entire time the Dog House has existed, you have gone out of your way with multiple individuals to insult, denigrate and deride, consistently derailing peaceful discussion and dragging it down to the gutter. If someone disagrees with you, you don't find it enough to simply state your disagreement, you insist on using personal attacks in one form or another, as if disagreement with the esteemed ES is conclusive evidence that the individual is sub-human.

    Frankly, sunshine, I've had it.
    Last edited by Lady's Human; 12-27-2012 at 11:23 PM.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    As to insults....

    In the entire time the Dog House has existed, you have gone out of your way with multiple individuals to insult, denigrate and deride, consistently derailing peaceful discussion and dragging it down to the gutter. If someone disagrees with you, you don't find it enough to simply state your disagreement, you insist on using personal attacks in one form or another, as if disagreement with the esteemed ES is conclusive evidence that the individual is sub-human.

    Frankly, sunshine, I've had it.
    Now that...is the pot calling the kettle black!

    You could not have made a better description of your own behavior if you tried!

    I won't bore folks here with my opinion of your behavior. Trust me...Sunshine...I don't need to do so. It is obvious to everyone. (Okay, maybe everyone except blue and family...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Now that...is the pot calling the kettle black!

    You could not have made a better description of your own behavior if you tried!

    I won't bore folks here with my opinion of your behavior. Trust me...Sunshine...I don't need to do so. It is obvious to everyone. (Okay, maybe everyone except blue and family...)
    Thanks for the honorable mention sweetness.

    Unlike you I am well aware of when I make a dig on someone. You on the other hand are completely clueless that you are acting in an insulting or passive aggressive manor when you post. You have no idea that your everyday comments, that are normal for you and those that suck up to you, are insulting to even hard core liberals.

    Face it you dont value Liberty, and you enjoy lording over others in your career.

    ETA: To be clear, I do not believe ES is honest enough with herself to see that she is being, belittling, insulting, or ignorant with others. She actually believes she is above everybody else. I wouldnt be surprised if she lives in a gated community that employs armed guards, but at the very least she live in a Home Owners Association and is active in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post

    I won't bore folks here with my opinion of your behavior. Trust me...Sunshine...I don't need to do so. It is obvious to everyone. (Okay, maybe everyone except blue and family...)
    Frankly, sweetie, I don't care what your opinion of my behavior is. You're so blind to how offensive you truly are that you'll never, ever see the light.

    Conversely, honey, I know exactly how offensive I'm being to your delicate sensibilities, and could be far, far more offensive, however, I choose not to out of respect for both others on the board and the owner.
    Last edited by Lady's Human; 12-31-2012 at 07:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catlady1945 View Post
    Maybe just generally offensive. I wonder how you get away with your comments .... oh wait, related to the moderator (uh, huh)... anyone else would be deleted.
    To clarify one thing, no, my relation to the mod in reality keeps me on a tighter leash than anyone else on the board.

    I know where the lines are drawn, and as Karen well knows, my comments are VERY restrained from what they would be in person.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catlady1945 View Post
    Jeeze, wouldn't like to meet you when yur packin' heat.
    Verbal repartee has what exactly to do with physical temperament? I'd personally be far, far more worried about certain people here when they're outwardly very, very calm.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    I don't think you're going to get what you're hoping for.......
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    I don't think you're going to get what you're hoping for.......
    Where is the Like button?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
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