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    It seems to me that not only do mentally ill people get permission to own a gun, but also plain stupid morons.

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    Most vehicle deaths are caused by accidents.

    There is such a thing as accidentally shooting a person, but aiming a gun at someone is a bit more deliberate than driving off the road.

    It's an apples-oranges kind of comparison, IMO.
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    The point is, a car can and will still kill someone. I read recently that road rage incidents are on the rise. A girl walking down the street yelled something at a speeding car - the psycho turned around and ran her right over. I really don't think the purpose of a thing matters, the point is, it can and will still be used against someone sadly.

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    This whole thread is about opinions - and I'm sure we all know what is said about those! I see no right or wrong in anything that anyone has said, and this discussion could go on and on and on with no resolution. I respect everyone's opinion - afterall - that's what makes us all individual and unique. Opinions-opinions-opinions...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Now...why don't we all go and say something nice about today's dog/cat/pet?
    I bit my tongue on this earlier in the thread. Your opinions are right? We should drop it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    And CP...this has been a fairly civilized conversation so far. Suggesting people who disagree with you "should seek therapy" is not only rude, incendiary and illogical - but invites a response I am working hard not to give.
    I am not a rude person or all the other fancy words you use. I was serious about the therapy. I feel bad for anyone who lives their life in fear. I never suggested that people who disagree with me get therapy. I said [Those of you who are worried about being shot out in public, perhaps you should seek therapy.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatepuppy View Post
    I bit my tongue on this earlier in the thread. Your opinions are right? We should drop it?


    I am not a rude person or all the other fancy words you use. I was serious about the therapy. I feel bad for anyone who lives their life in fear. I never suggested that people who disagree with me get therapy. I said [Those of you who are worried about being shot out in public, perhaps you should seek therapy.]

    If you have something to say to me, don't be shy, go for it. I'm a big girl, I can handle it.
    Not once did I suggest the discussion should be dropped. I have stated before that I think it would be nice if more people responded to the Dog/Cat/Pet of the day threads. You see something evil in that? Hmmmm...


    Living in fear... In fact...didn't you say earlier that is WHY you have a gun on your dresser? Because you are afraid?

    I do not want to get into personal attacks.

    I would hope we can express our opinions with having to disparage those with whom we disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    but invites a response I am working hard not to give.
    With this, I felt you had something you wanted to say to me, sorry, my mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Not once did I suggest the discussion should be dropped. I have stated before that I think it would be nice if more people responded to the Dog/Cat/Pet of the day threads. You see something evil in that? Hmmmm..

    Living in fear... In fact...didn't you say earlier that is WHY you have a gun on your dresser? Because you are afraid?

    I do not want to get into personal attacks.

    I would hope we can express our opinions with having to disparage those with whom we disagree.
    What a funny place, in the gun discussion to mention posting on the DOTD/COTD/POTD. Forgive me if I didn't understand that. I did use the >< . BTW, I try to reply to most of them daily.

    I do not live in fear. I mentioned several times I doubt anyone would break in my house at night with my dogs here.

    I don't want personal attacks either. You twisted my words of seeking help if you live in fear into me saying anyone who disagrees with me needs therapy. I didn't care for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatepuppy View Post
    With this, I felt you had something you wanted to say to me, sorry, my mistake.



    What a funny place, in the gun discussion to mention posting on the DOTD/COTD/POTD. Forgive me if I didn't understand that. I did use the >< . BTW, I try to reply to most of them daily.

    I do not live in fear. I mentioned several times I doubt anyone would break in my house at night with my dogs here.

    I don't want personal attacks either. You twisted my words of seeking help if you live in fear into me saying anyone who disagrees with me needs therapy. I didn't care for that.
    Yes. I know you reply often on the "of the Day". I wish more people did. There are some people who only post in non-pet threads - especially the Dog House. I am sorry if you misunderstaood that.

    I didn't care for the suggestion that people who do not like guns need therapy. I am more angry than fearful. Resentful in fact. Do not twist that into some mental imbalance needing therapy. But nonetheless - I do not know a person who does not have some fear. I would think someone without fear is more in need of therapy.

    But once again...and I guess every time someone tries to make the connection between guns and vehicles...the purpose of a gun is to kill. The purpose of a vehicle is to move people or goods from place to place. If used correct a vehicle does not kill. If used correctly a guns does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    But once again...and I guess every time someone tries to make the connection between guns and vehicles...the purpose of a gun is to kill. The purpose of a vehicle is to move people or goods from place to place. If used correct a vehicle does not kill. If used correctly a guns does.
    And again, both are tools, completely harmless unless used by someone of ill intent. One just happens to be a convenience of modern life that 90% of the population of the US would be protesting if they were controlled properly (German licensing requirements for vehicles and their traffic code are an excellent starting point).

    The people need help and in some cases control, the objects are harmless. Under current law it is actually illegal to check someone's mental health background as part of a NICS check due to various and sundry restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    And again, both are tools, completely harmless unless used by someone of ill intent. One just happens to be a convenience of modern life that 90% of the population of the US would be protesting if they were controlled properly (German licensing requirements for vehicles and their traffic code are an excellent starting point).

    The people need help and in some cases control, the objects are harmless. Under current law it is actually illegal to check someone's mental health background as part of a NICS check due to various and sundry restrictions.

    NICS = National Instant Criminal Background Check System - dunno why there's no B in the acronym!
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