Gun control discussion

[Lady's Human]

That's a repost of what Liz posted above.


The odd thing is that shortly after the Colorado incident, a pickup truck went off the road in Texas, killing 10 of the 23 in the truck. Shouldn't we be gnashing our teeth, wailling, and calling for a ban on pickup trucks? Or does it not matter, as they were illegals?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/23...thorities-say/

BTW, That's far from an isolated incident, at whatever angle you look at it. Coyotes routinely kill their "cargo", either intentionally or accidentally, and motor vehicle accidents kill many more people than firearms related crimes every year.

[catlady1945]

That's a repost of what Liz posted above.


The odd thing is that shortly after the Colorado incident, a pickup truck went off the road in Texas, killing 10 of the 23 in the truck. Shouldn't we be gnashing our teeth, wailling, and calling for a ban on pickup trucks? Or does it not matter, as they were illegals?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/23...thorities-say/

BTW, That's far from an isolated incident, at whatever angle you look at it. Coyotes routinely kill their "cargo", either intentionally or accidentally, and motor vehicle accidents kill many more people than firearms related crimes every year.

Specious argument - pretty sure everyone knows that a pickup truck is nowhere near the same as loaded guns in your pants or on the dresser in the bedroom.

[chocolatepuppy]

There's that 'gun on the dresser in the bedroom' again. Mine's still there. Hasn't caused any trouble yet. But oh no, I drive a truck!!! I guess I have more to worry about now. Maybe I should stop driving.
Those of you who are worried about being shot out in public, perhaps you should seek therapy. There is NOTHING in this world that can assure that you will get home alive. NOTHING! Gun control won't change that.

[Bonny]

Ben Steins answer today on guns was he had none. He mentioned homicidal people with guns. The Denver shootings. I guess try not to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?

[Edwina's Secretary]

There's that 'gun on the dresser in the bedroom' again. Mine's still there. Hasn't caused any trouble yet. But oh no, I drive a truck!!! I guess I have more to worry about now. Maybe I should stop driving.
Those of you who are worried about being shot out in public, perhaps you should seek therapy. There is NOTHING in this world that can assure that you will get home alive. NOTHING! Gun control won't change that.

Once again...motor vehicles are designed to move goods or people. When used correctly they do not kill. Guns are designed to kill or maim. When used correctly that is what they do. It is fairly simple.

And CP...this has been a fairly civilized conversation so far. Suggesting people who disagree with you "should seek therapy" is not only rude, incendiary and illogical - but invites a response I am working hard not to give.

[Randi]

It seems to me that not only do mentally ill people get permission to own a gun, but also plain stupid morons.

"The man told officers the gun fell from his pocket Tuesday night as he was adjusting himself in the seat and that it discharged when it dropped to the floor."

[Catty1]

Most vehicle deaths are caused by accidents.

There is such a thing as accidentally shooting a person, but aiming a gun at someone is a bit more deliberate than driving off the road.

It's an apples-oranges kind of comparison, IMO.

[Alysser]

The point is, a car can and will still kill someone. I read recently that road rage incidents are on the rise. A girl walking down the street yelled something at a speeding car - the psycho turned around and ran her right over. I really don't think the purpose of a thing matters, the point is, it can and will still be used against someone sadly.

[chocolatepuppy]

Now...why don't we all go and say something nice about today's dog/cat/pet?

I bit my tongue on this earlier in the thread. Your opinions are right? We should drop it?

And CP...this has been a fairly civilized conversation so far. Suggesting people who disagree with you "should seek therapy" is not only rude, incendiary and illogical - but invites a response I am working hard not to give.

I am not a rude person or all the other fancy words you use. I was serious about the therapy. I feel bad for anyone who lives their life in fear. I never suggested that people who disagree with me get therapy. I said [Those of you who are worried about being shot out in public, perhaps you should seek therapy.]

If you have something to say to me, don't be shy, go for it. I'm a big girl, I can handle it.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I bit my tongue on this earlier in the thread. Your opinions are right? We should drop it?


I am not a rude person or all the other fancy words you use. I was serious about the therapy. I feel bad for anyone who lives their life in fear. I never suggested that people who disagree with me get therapy. I said [Those of you who are worried about being shot out in public, perhaps you should seek therapy.]

If you have something to say to me, don't be shy, go for it. I'm a big girl, I can handle it.

Not once did I suggest the discussion should be dropped. I have stated before that I think it would be nice if more people responded to the Dog/Cat/Pet of the day threads. You see something evil in that? Hmmmm...


Living in fear... In fact...didn't you say earlier that is WHY you have a gun on your dresser? Because you are afraid?

I do not want to get into personal attacks.

I would hope we can express our opinions with having to disparage those with whom we disagree.

[RICHARD]

There's that 'gun on the dresser in the bedroom' again. Mine's still there. Hasn't caused any trouble yet. But oh no, I drive a truck!!! I guess I have more to worry about now. Maybe I should stop driving.
Those of you who are worried about being shot out in public, perhaps you should seek therapy. There is NOTHING in this world that can assure that you will get home alive. NOTHING! Gun control won't change that.

I don't think it's the TRUCK....It's the gasoline that makes the truck go vroom.

Convict gas station owners.

[chocolatepuppy]

I don't think it's the TRUCK....It's the gasoline that makes the truck go vroom.

Convict gas station owners.

Thanks Richard, I'm just headed out in my TRUCK! Now I can worry about the gasoline too!

[RICHARD]

Thanks Richard, I'm just headed out in my TRUCK! Now I can worry about the gasoline too!

My dad had a rifle rack in his truck, until he put on the brakes one day and was hit in the head with a gun.

That guns in trucks can be a hazard too.

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My truck is champagne colored.

[Lady's Human]

A prime reason we need to ban vehicles:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/21/us/tex...html?hpt=us_c2

According to the headline, the SUV flipped.

Unlike SUVs, firearms require someone pulling the trigger.

[Lady's Human]

Specious argument - pretty sure everyone knows that a pickup truck is nowhere near the same as loaded guns in your pants or on the dresser in the bedroom.

Funny, I've had firearms my entire adult life, handled firearms since I was a teen, and none of the firearms I own have ever run out of the house and shot someone.

Vehicles, however, have autonomously killed people routinely, just read the headlines. "SUV goes out of control, Kills 3", etc.