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    I buy organic when its an option. At the very least I go with the most natural choice. I don't want foods that have man-made chemical "substitutes" rather than the real thing. Milk here used to be labled rbgh-free but I think the government banned that on the label because it suggests to people that its better than regular milk and the fda doesn't approve telling people its better.

    You really do have to watch yourself with these extremist programs though. You can twist statistics to work for or against anything. Look logically at any program you come across, just like that meat staying in the belly thing that doesn't make any logical sense.

    I notice your green dot program sells Spot's Stew dog food. ALready I see ingredients with alfalfa which is a nasty filler and shouldn't be fed to anything IMO. No animal naturally eats alfalfa as a main food product. Not cows, not rabbits, nothing. Plus all of those scientifically named ingredients in the end make up the by-product known as "animal digest". It poop! Enterococcous Faecium IS poop. They try to hide these things from people who don't read the ingredients.

    As far as human food is concerned, why isn't this program concerned about xanthan gum? What do they do, pick and choose between questionable man-made ingredients?

    If you actually looked up real information on soy, the next thing you know you'll be going soy-free too.
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    In my opinion, pesticides are pesticides, it doesn't matter if they are from an natural source or synthetic. Just because the pesticides used on organic produce are from nature doesn't make them any safer/better. There are lots of things in nature that are harmful to consume. Look at Rotenone. It was a popular organic pesticide for a long time, which has been recently banned due to it's health risks.

    Also since Organic farmers don't use Genetically Modified Organisms they often have to use MORE pesticides than non-organic famers.

    As far as milk goes, I don't think organic vs. non-organic makes a difference. I'm not against drinking milk, however I do think we consume too much of it. Someone mentioned the hormones given to some cows. But what about the hormones that are naturally there? The hormones that are meant to produce milk that will grow baby cows into big adult cows. We're not cows, we don't really need it. We're the only mammals who continue drink milk into adulthood. We're also the only mammals who drink the milk of another mammal. So if you're really worried about the hormones you should stop drinking milk all together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBlaix View Post
    We're also the only mammals who drink the milk of another mammal.
    I can't speak of the rest of your post . . . but to this statement, I have to say . . . I have seen firsthand kittens nursing from dogs and puppies nursing from cats, and heard of other such tales of animals drinking the milk of another species.

    As for adult mammals . . . I suppose the only source they could get milk from "on their own" or "naturally" would be directly from the lactating female, and I don't know personally of grown animals nursing past a young age.

    But, given the option, I've never personally had a pet (including a rat) turn their nose up at milk. And, I know many species will drink cow's or goat's milk if they have the option.

    My thing is just to try to consume basic simple food and drink. I will eventually grow at least half of my own produce, but for now, I do think it's a safer alternative to choose organic when I can. I don't freak if I can't, or judge those who can't or choose not to go organic.

    I will probably never go completely vegetarian, so I can't really say I'm overly concerned with naturally occurring hormones in any animal source. One thing I can say for certain is that I LOVE the taste of organic milk and don't like non-organic milk at all. I just didn't drink milk until I started buying organic for Clara.
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    I totally agree with everything you said finn's mom! I also think organic food tastes better. The milk in particular!
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    I've been thinking about it. I guess I need to try it!
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    .....Finns Mom.....where did you find the website utilizing 20 ingredients a week, etc., ?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillycat View Post
    .....Finns Mom.....where did you find the website utilizing 20 ingredients a week, etc., ?
    Yes! I'm interested as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillycat View Post
    .....Finns Mom.....where did you find the website utilizing 20 ingredients a week, etc., ?
    www.thefresh20.com It's $5 a month!
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    I have always tried to buy certain things organic (like milk and eggs), but lately, since I've found a menu planning/grocery shopping website that only uses 20 ingredients a week (not counting basic pantry items, like spices and oils), I've actually been able to almost completely convert to organic everything, even chicken! I don't waste time, money or food following the plan, and it has made all the difference for us! I have a "Dirty Dozen" list that I try to live by, as far as fruits and veggies, buying almost exclusively organic items that made the list.
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